great research, that probably will get a serious boost next oil crisis..just one thing with the air suspension, especially at sea where a safety construction would have to float, imagine if for some reason the pressure drops, it would be an expensive mess of bent pipes....
The land-locked version seems more practical. I doubt this thing would survive 50-foot seas. Also sea water would mean salt corrosion of pipes and fittings.
No need to transport steam through the pipe under the ocean. Rather generate electricity on the island itself, perhaps under the island to prevent the device from overheating using ocean water to dissipate heat from the closed-turbines. Thus transport electricity from the device via ocean pipes directly to main land. Since the ocean-pipes will be low in temp due to heat dissipation electricity travels faster unlike in hot materials where atoms bounce around too much & slow down electricity flow
How about a HUGE MONKEY turning a HUGE WHEEL in the sky? no? Um okay, a big bathtub full of bubbles, and when each bubble bursts, it blows a fan, and then all fans are connected to a bigger fan? which runs a turbine which makes electricity?
Generate electricity onboard islands and transport energy by kable to shore. Or split water and compress LH (Liquid Hydrogen). Solar and windpowered tankers collect it and distribute world wide.
Make vertical solar panels and lift them with balloons. It may be cheaper since they don't occupy any surface and they have a simpler structure. Also, they would be more efficient since they would collect energy on a vertical scale.
That water moat that separates the diaphragm from outside the island needs maintenance drainage channels for debris, sand, corrosion chunks which sweat off of pipes, etc. Good idea, engineers forget about minute things--of which, as a maintenance guy , we (maintenance staff) demonize some outcomes.
We have so many deserts, why not use them to generate electricity, (photovoltaics or others)then by constructing them say 5m above the ground then the temperature underneath would cool down making it easier for humans to work or live in such an environment. or grow trees etc. I believe deserts could be the solution to pollution in the future.
no water to boil or electrolyze if you can get water in, it's no longer a desert. Do you make electricity for TV's or food to prevent starvation.
i gather water also needed for cleaning panels. Is it hard to build & maintain in deserts without convenience of oil-machines bringing resources,= why we haven't done this already. this looks like a simple idea so there must be a practical problem that appears in implementation. that said we definitely need to try things like this..
@fisioserv -I completely reject notion that we don't do because 'oil is cheaper at the moment' as some economists say - to give everyone a western standard of living would take 5x current resources so there is already plenty of demand for energy. If solar was viable, solar powered industry would manufacture itself without the need for oil-based industry to support it. (see 'plants', =solar-powered-solar-panel factories... can we really improve on that, given we evolved around plant chemistry?)
@fisioserv it would be better and more efficient to use a system of mirrors that can heat oil that can then go to as themal storage tank filled with salt to store heat the water pipes used by normal power stations can then run through the salt heat store creating heat 24/7 as the sun dosn't shine at night and massive amounts of heat can be generated during the day, this would be slightly less effiecent due to two energy transfers but is possible today easily with modern technology.
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like was said before, I think a good ocean storm would destroy this thing, let alone a hurricane. It might work, but would be a maintenence nightmare.
@davidnerd Just think of how much solar energy goes to waste now by not harnessing it at all. Then any form of capturing it and using it would be progress.
Maybe you should put the power plant right on the island and use seawater to condense the steam, eliminating the need for cooling towers, and energy losses due to the steam travelling underwater. Just run power cables to the shore.
Yes not a good idea. but you could use this islands for 'solar panels' and the steam could be used, as I saw on another video, to heat some amount of sea water, together with cold sea water could create a machine that generates even more electricity and with little or no extra steam could be used forever, so you only need to start it and practically will work itself, really beautiful machine. I'll post a link/video when I get it.
@davidnerd - Look into Finlands geothermal, the output steam comes out of the side of the mountain, in a pipe, and goes for miles to where it is used for heating. These pipes are above ground and insulated. The climate can have below zero conditions and they only lose 2 degrees over several MILES! So I agree, you'd lose energy... but not a lot. Insulation works surprisingly well.
@irisauser Yes, but cold water will suck a lot more heat out than cold air will. Better to generate the power on the island and send a cable ashore. (Or build it in the desert)
To line up the linear light reflectors and tubes to the sun position. Moving the island focus one degree of freedom of movement, a second degree of freedom is focused by the linear parabolic reflectors.
Why the solar islands dont have their own steam turbine and generator? And transport then just pure electricity? In this case the solar islands would have energy and they could remove their positions in order to get as much sun as possible. And I think power cables are more flexible than pipelines.
Totally gay. When will people learn that solar panels simple don't work. This technology has been around since the 70's, its nothing new, just rehashing of old technology to take the money of fools.
@Armornone its not excaclty this way , the panels are , the case is that the bankers know that volcanic winters are comin ( the 1st is around our door ) when volvanic winter panels dont make much electricity , this phenomenon lasts up to 2 years , in that time the man that invested in solar power he not only looses his invest but the land he used too , the goal is the land !
@davidnerd - well, steam and high temperature water is transported since several decades over longer distances. With today's technology this can be done with almost ZERO LOSSES!
@kilx81 so where is the problem? cold water - thermal insulation - hot steam = no problem. In Scandinavia and in Iceland they are transmitting heat in extreme cold environment since decades with almost zero energy loss...
@kilx81 ..at the moment the ocean is about 300 meters from my house - it has been like this for the last several years. And I believe that people who study things like this and invest dozens of millions actually do make their home work with including specialists in the field of seaworthiness or steam transfer. They do this for a living with a great education and the best computers for simulations. I didn't get the part which should make this platform not seaworthy from your comment.
@usu15550 and your windows never gets stained from the sea air? my point in seaworthiness is about this being not being competitive to other solutions like wind power or wave power Islands due to maintenance costs.
@kilx81 - well, you are correct about having the windows stained from the salty air, but not that much that it would not work. And especially since they have almost no wind down there and the sun is about 50 meters above their head.... Solar thermal is the alternative energy down there. Solar PV would be most likely be more fragile to the elements. It is also not the temperature loss which would be critical but the pressure loss since the generator is powered by pressure and not heat per se.
@davidnerd I was about to post the very same thing, not very well thought out as a result think its a poor concept then you ahve to think about the waves, check out the solar tower in spain that is already in operation, 300MW electricity (not the greatest source of energy but 100 clean and renewable energy)
If you are boiling see water this could also be used to convert seawater in to drinking water by condensation of the steam into fresh water. Brilliant idea!
Solar power to perform electrolyses of water. Making 2parts Hydrogen, 1 part Oxygen. Recombine the Hydrogen with Oxygen (a Hydrogen Fuel Cell) to produce Electrical power with a by product of water. If no water is lost in the process and we gain power we can use any time (day or night). We can make all the power we need and keep our water. (Cleaning the water up as we do so.)
Solar energy-we must think of future generations! We only think of today, that's fine,
but there has to be a tomorrow also. It also as numerous implications in architectural designs, and aesthetic richness. All power to the SUN! FREE energy for all!
yes we are human being, this d right way rather to killing each other for fossil fuel . . ., the steam is also can watered the desert and poor country so we can grow a forest and actually if we use it from the sea water it was have so many electrolyte so we can much easier to convert it to hydrogen for running our car :D
and we are still inventing billions in factories that polluting air. This idea is fantastic i wish i have a lot of money and build that for my village.
@Kookas i think in the long run solar cells would be cheaper since they dont require pipes, steam turbines and generators/alternators. but like you said photovoltaic cells aren't very efficient so i guess it depends on whether you want cheap or efficiency
There are already better versions of this in operation in western US deserts. The ocean versions would never work. If undulating waves didn't destroy the structure, they would at least mis-align the reflectors so they would no longer heat the pipe. What about sea birds making nests and leaving their droppings? These floating platforms look like attractive habitat for many animals above and below. Not to mention cooling of steam as it is transported underwater. It would need very thick ins
i have one problem with this, in the desert option, what happens when there is a desert storm, wouldnt that sand cover the reflectors hindering the entire heating process. i wish this was possible im a big fan of innovative design.
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Ridiculous. Beneath our feet there a 2,000 zetawatts that could be harvested without weather dependecy in a cheap and easy way. Instead monsterous projects that uses up millions of tons of presious materials shoud harvest sunlight! A not reliable energy source which is only there where nobody needs it. I.e. in deserts.
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This will happen very seldom and it will probably not hurt that much considering the size and the fact that it is articulted. Otherwise, repair, just like Nuclear Japan, except les dangerous and costly.
will the cold water eventually cool down the long piping before it reaches to the station? this engineer is so stupid even wasted his time drawing this.
@deaftodd - well, these engineers are studying this for their life. This project is not a one man show but it is conducted by one of Europe's leading technical institutes and they invest US $ 100s of millions into this - one would assume that they would know the BASICS of the projects.... Steam is transported since several decades over longer distances; with today's technology with almost ZERO LOSS
even today we are using steam to make power all from coal solar atom all is using the power of steam. the only two i know of thats not using steam is windturbines and waterturbines. the islamds seems to be a step in the right direktion but there is always a but on the water as an eksemple the waves would be a big problem and the tubes thats goes to the beach should be reflexable and same time stasionary and non bending if y want to use the steam. but ill look forward to the finished projekt
"Water channel ensures airtight connection"?? My physics may not be all that good, but wouldn't the overpressure press the water out instead of the full island lying on the ground??
the desert version is defintely the best one. Rotation of the whole structure is not even needed. In fact they are building tens 'static' versions of these thermo solar plants in Spain. Search for Andasol. This is the way to go, not wind (it disrupts local climate) , not electrovoltaic (after 15-20 yers cells need to be replaced). This is robust (Solar One facility has 20+ and works fine) cheap and we've huge deserts everywhere.
@mrnitro30103 No, I looked over that info on Andasol and their problem is the fact that it's not only remote (so can't be issued to home owners roofs, unlike solar panels) but it needs water as a cooling system. That takes water in places like Arizona and other desert places perfect for solar but where water conservation is important. They need to make solar panels more efficient and cheaper so more people can buy them for their own houses and be taken off the grid so plants need to be built.
@mrnitro30103 actually the desert version is not really the best one, since desert tend to be dusty and have sand storms. Both, the sand storms and the dust reduce the efficiency dramatically and increase the operational costs (cleaning and maintenance) - the best is most likely off shore in a calm bay or in a man made protected are on water....
@kyle92223 - Inversion needs colder temperatures, like on the north California coast. These cold temperatures almost do not exist down there. There is almost no cooling down in that region. I have two friends in Dubai and never told me anything about inversion. And I would assume that an university which invests several US $ 100 millions would do its homework in that department too
This is worst compared to a solar updraft tower because you need a lot of water to just have this idea move, okay where not short of water but that just extra resources needed to move the water to that prokect site for it to be a working rig.
1. waves would warp the hell out of the platform decreasing overall efficiency.
2. transporting steam many kilometers though cold seawater will further reduce efficiency.
3. as already stated the marine life would be disrupted.
4.this design would require soooo much material in comparison to standard solar concentration technology and would produce less power per unit of space which begs the question, what is the point of this?
Seriously? Never going to happen like that. One reason is if you try to send HOT steam though a cold ocean it's going to turn back in to water... You would have to produce the energy on the solar island and send the energy produced to where it is needed directly. It would have little to NO effect on ocean life considering the ocean is so vast the sun light it blocks out would have almost no effect. It would have more of an effect on land than at sea... Good concept bad engineering.
I love the idea, but how do you keep the high seas from beating the shit out of the structure when the waves are several feet high and there are high winds?
I like the concept, but like M4, you are taking solar energy form the ocean and how the currents move. Better to have them in a desert. Also having these steam lines run inland in water after great distances would casue condensation and loss of heat. Loss of heat = loss of energy and if you know about steam power plants, you need the heat transfer
@Caleb6543 imagine you in the beach.a wave comes and you are not swallow by the wave because it's like if you were a boat. when you see a boat , it could be stopped but the waves effect make it move
this kind tecnology is the archimede project actually alreaddy work in sicily italy, but cannot apply this kind tecnology in the ocean !!! need the land
The idea to transmit steam is a bit ordinary, you would be better off having on-site turbines with alternators and use a hermetically sealed coolant system with heat exchanges and then transmit via submarine EHV cables to mainland. The only concern I have and has already been mentioned would be the lack of incident light under the collectors which would interfere with sea life and ocean currents on a localised and potently global scale. Great idea but needs further research.
as the steam travels through the underwater pipelines, they will lose an enormous percentage of heat and its efficiency. Unless scientists come up with a very cheap super insulator, that can be molded into miles of pipeline, this idea does not make sense as such!! nice try though.
wtf ? why not have the generator set up on the island itself (its not like it is going to make a difference these islands already look huge) and transmit power to the mainland via undersea cables. by doing this you would also decrease the thermal losses.
This should be built on land. There are many ways to adjust for the sunlight, turning the whole complex is not needed. Further, the steam could be re-condensed into drinking water to increase the cost effectiveness of its construction. Alternative system would grow cyanobacteria (algae) in tanks, for greatest energy conversion and making biodiesel from cyanobacteria.
@ostralopithicus yes, on land. arizona and nevada have much unused land and few storms or earthquakes. After a few years a storm wil turn these islands (and all the investment capital) to junk. katrina, haiti?
people all the power we need is in magnets , its how the solar system does what it does , if magnetic energy works for the galaxy why not us , solar is great but we need long turm power , one big volcano and what good is solar , we need energy that is not affected by planetary changes , that is magnetic s we have them but our gutless nation will not stand up anymore agents the powers that keep technology out of the public eye ,
great idea many things could be added to the island hatchery s ec
@m4rkpj What if the island were a moving island and moved before it had any effect on plant life below, and what if it were over a deep part of the water, where sunlight would have dissipated before it would even reach animal and plant life?
@blochead23 1) if the island moved, that could create some problems with the pipelines, especially because if they were not anchored, an object that large floating in the ocean would be at the mercy of the tides.
2) "if it were over a deep part of the water" indicates the thought that things only live at the bottom of the oceans... a lot of stuff in water lives near the surface, not at the bottom (examples: fish, planton, porpoises, etc.)
1) there exist very resistant and flexible piplines so medium movements of the "island" won't affect anything bad at all. On top of that, you can easily install GPS-controlled motors on each side of the "island" to keep it on its coordinates.
2) fish and porpoises would just swim to brighter places and plankton wouldn't be able to do photosynthesis until it's swept away to a brighter place. (how bad..)
Great idea, but how many places in the world is the ocean stable enough all year round to support such a massive mega structure and piping the steam to power plants? Why not just send it through deep sea cables?
nice concept, however, the best solution is to stick a solar power system on top of the roof tops of homes. It will take up much less space and is far more economical.
Very cool concept. However, my first impression is the cost would far exceed the energy that could be produced. Also, the ocean salt water would be hard on this.
Have them shipped to your stretch of desert in containers, assemble on site and off you go.
Not as pretty and impressive as the islands tho, which have other advantages if you get them right (potential for using extraterritorial waters being main of them)
@nosuchthingasshould In such case a more flexible approach, lending itself to quick mass production (made in china, of course)and easier to adjust to the contour of the land, would be to use smaller (say, roughly, 3m radius? that could vary anyway) turntables, mounted on a grid of steam and cold water pipes.
@nosuchthingasshHaving said that, if you are going to put these things on land, you are unlikely, due to their size, to place them where land is at a premium. That way one of the main selling points of the design, that of over 95% use of space, is not so important anymore.
@nosuchthingasshould They have the prototype platform ready and turning, awaiting the installation of the solar elements. They also seem to be going ahead with the seaborne versions, judging by all the circular earthworks going on just offshore. Check out the satellite pictures available on the company website -the dockyards? I say good luck to them.
Solar towers are better because they can run during night, winter snow times, al lthat maters is surface temp higher then 3200 feet high.
MrAppleseed88 1 day ago
I'm afraid that building it will take as much energy as it will ever deliver.
gdjiw 1 week ago in playlist kokomo
Was it just me that got flash-backs of the death star, (or even the home planet of the transformers)?
bene11i0tt 1 week ago
great research, that probably will get a serious boost next oil crisis..just one thing with the air suspension, especially at sea where a safety construction would have to float, imagine if for some reason the pressure drops, it would be an expensive mess of bent pipes....
happyfox711 3 weeks ago
The land-locked version seems more practical. I doubt this thing would survive 50-foot seas. Also sea water would mean salt corrosion of pipes and fittings.
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displaypicks 1 month ago
No need to transport steam through the pipe under the ocean. Rather generate electricity on the island itself, perhaps under the island to prevent the device from overheating using ocean water to dissipate heat from the closed-turbines. Thus transport electricity from the device via ocean pipes directly to main land. Since the ocean-pipes will be low in temp due to heat dissipation electricity travels faster unlike in hot materials where atoms bounce around too much & slow down electricity flow
AstralFXTech 1 month ago
How about a HUGE MONKEY turning a HUGE WHEEL in the sky? no? Um okay, a big bathtub full of bubbles, and when each bubble bursts, it blows a fan, and then all fans are connected to a bigger fan? which runs a turbine which makes electricity?
YoLninYo 1 month ago
Storms?
mrlarry1975 2 months ago
hmmm... area's that have desert's could benefit from this concept
Jamac007 2 months ago
Generate electricity onboard islands and transport energy by kable to shore. Or split water and compress LH (Liquid Hydrogen). Solar and windpowered tankers collect it and distribute world wide.
Sailorman6996 2 months ago
Make vertical solar panels and lift them with balloons. It may be cheaper since they don't occupy any surface and they have a simpler structure. Also, they would be more efficient since they would collect energy on a vertical scale.
Qwady01 2 months ago
That water moat that separates the diaphragm from outside the island needs maintenance drainage channels for debris, sand, corrosion chunks which sweat off of pipes, etc. Good idea, engineers forget about minute things--of which, as a maintenance guy , we (maintenance staff) demonize some outcomes.
Malaikatrendy 2 months ago
legit idea, loads of possible maintenance problems. anyone know what the music is called??
102ew 2 months ago
Brilliant concept.
foggel1 2 months ago
We have so many deserts, why not use them to generate electricity, (photovoltaics or others)then by constructing them say 5m above the ground then the temperature underneath would cool down making it easier for humans to work or live in such an environment. or grow trees etc. I believe deserts could be the solution to pollution in the future.
fisioserv 2 months ago 9
@fisioserv -
no water to boil or electrolyze if you can get water in, it's no longer a desert. Do you make electricity for TV's or food to prevent starvation.
i gather water also needed for cleaning panels. Is it hard to build & maintain in deserts without convenience of oil-machines bringing resources,= why we haven't done this already. this looks like a simple idea so there must be a practical problem that appears in implementation. that said we definitely need to try things like this..
walter0bz 2 months ago
@fisioserv -I completely reject notion that we don't do because 'oil is cheaper at the moment' as some economists say - to give everyone a western standard of living would take 5x current resources so there is already plenty of demand for energy. If solar was viable, solar powered industry would manufacture itself without the need for oil-based industry to support it. (see 'plants', =solar-powered-solar-panel factories... can we really improve on that, given we evolved around plant chemistry?)
walter0bz 2 months ago
@fisioserv it would be better and more efficient to use a system of mirrors that can heat oil that can then go to as themal storage tank filled with salt to store heat the water pipes used by normal power stations can then run through the salt heat store creating heat 24/7 as the sun dosn't shine at night and massive amounts of heat can be generated during the day, this would be slightly less effiecent due to two energy transfers but is possible today easily with modern technology.
seanhamson 3 weeks ago
...off topic. Anyone know the name of the music?
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shafiulisla 3 months ago
@davidnerd i agree however they could possibly use new forms of insulation such as aerogel when it becomes manufactured
aragon2235 3 months ago
like was said before, I think a good ocean storm would destroy this thing, let alone a hurricane. It might work, but would be a maintenence nightmare.
htomerif 3 months ago
Why are not the turbines on the island and return the pipes for submarine electricity cables?
Por que as Turbinas não ficam na ilha e troca esses canos por cabos de eletricidade submarinos?
SharkStrikeAC 3 months ago
@davidnerd Just think of how much solar energy goes to waste now by not harnessing it at all. Then any form of capturing it and using it would be progress.
Zidriz 3 months ago
Maybe you should put the power plant right on the island and use seawater to condense the steam, eliminating the need for cooling towers, and energy losses due to the steam travelling underwater. Just run power cables to the shore.
pratherat 3 months ago
I Love idea but how will it be protected from Storms
bigblackjr7 3 months ago
What is the predicted efficiency level of this?
Janith1980 3 months ago
Yes not a good idea. but you could use this islands for 'solar panels' and the steam could be used, as I saw on another video, to heat some amount of sea water, together with cold sea water could create a machine that generates even more electricity and with little or no extra steam could be used forever, so you only need to start it and practically will work itself, really beautiful machine. I'll post a link/video when I get it.
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saultube44 3 months ago
@davidnerd - Look into Finlands geothermal, the output steam comes out of the side of the mountain, in a pipe, and goes for miles to where it is used for heating. These pipes are above ground and insulated. The climate can have below zero conditions and they only lose 2 degrees over several MILES! So I agree, you'd lose energy... but not a lot. Insulation works surprisingly well.
cool concept..
irisauser 4 months ago
@irisauser Yes, but cold water will suck a lot more heat out than cold air will. Better to generate the power on the island and send a cable ashore. (Or build it in the desert)
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SurvivalGuide2012 4 months ago
Why does it rotate?
NielsG070 4 months ago
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To line up the linear light reflectors and tubes to the sun position. Moving the island focus one degree of freedom of movement, a second degree of freedom is focused by the linear parabolic reflectors.
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powerdriller10 4 months ago
You are great with computer stimulation but flunk with your concept.. Draw it again!! Keep it up,, I enjoy watching your computer stimulation..
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misterengels 5 months ago
How would this hold up to potentially-multiple-times-per-year hurricanes?!
MrStimpy77 5 months ago
Why the solar islands dont have their own steam turbine and generator? And transport then just pure electricity? In this case the solar islands would have energy and they could remove their positions in order to get as much sun as possible. And I think power cables are more flexible than pipelines.
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is there energy loss in steam pipeline through miles under water????
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"sir nelson munds"
also0oo,,,,this pipeline kms long under the sea absolutely can not be stable--
u must be invent ; the most flexible, strongest and most well-izolated pipe/material!? in the world
another alsooo,,, does base pipeline has a system for draining of salt and waste materials left behind result of evaporation
u must be have some videos for these too
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Incredible concept...I look forward to seeing the progress on this idea.
dad2be1967 5 months ago
Totally gay. When will people learn that solar panels simple don't work. This technology has been around since the 70's, its nothing new, just rehashing of old technology to take the money of fools.
Armornone 5 months ago
@Armornone its not excaclty this way , the panels are , the case is that the bankers know that volcanic winters are comin ( the 1st is around our door ) when volvanic winter panels dont make much electricity , this phenomenon lasts up to 2 years , in that time the man that invested in solar power he not only looses his invest but the land he used too , the goal is the land !
gloup81 5 months ago
@gloup81 When will people learn that solar panels are the world's biggest scam. Its nothing new, just the exact same scam all over again.
Armornone 5 months ago
@davidnerd - well, steam and high temperature water is transported since several decades over longer distances. With today's technology this can be done with almost ZERO LOSSES!
usu15550 5 months ago
Yep, filling all the desserts with mirrors, are you mad?!
kyle92223 5 months ago
underwater steampipes??? really???
energy islands are an interesting concept... however the sea is a rough place. i think this concept is doomed at sea.
kilx81 5 months ago
@kilx81 well, if they can put oil pipe lines and electric cables into the sea where should the problem be for a steam pipe line?
usu15550 5 months ago
@usu15550 geee.... idk.... Oo
Maybe steam=hot. Water=cold....
kilx81 5 months ago
@kilx81 so where is the problem? cold water - thermal insulation - hot steam = no problem. In Scandinavia and in Iceland they are transmitting heat in extreme cold environment since decades with almost zero energy loss...
usu15550 5 months ago
@usu15550 i think you should look more into the matters...
i will not believe this concept is very seaworthy. if you ever lived close to the sea (within 500 meters or so) you would know why.,
kilx81 5 months ago
@kilx81 ..at the moment the ocean is about 300 meters from my house - it has been like this for the last several years. And I believe that people who study things like this and invest dozens of millions actually do make their home work with including specialists in the field of seaworthiness or steam transfer. They do this for a living with a great education and the best computers for simulations. I didn't get the part which should make this platform not seaworthy from your comment.
usu15550 5 months ago
@usu15550 and your windows never gets stained from the sea air? my point in seaworthiness is about this being not being competitive to other solutions like wind power or wave power Islands due to maintenance costs.
kilx81 5 months ago
@kilx81 - well, you are correct about having the windows stained from the salty air, but not that much that it would not work. And especially since they have almost no wind down there and the sun is about 50 meters above their head.... Solar thermal is the alternative energy down there. Solar PV would be most likely be more fragile to the elements. It is also not the temperature loss which would be critical but the pressure loss since the generator is powered by pressure and not heat per se.
usu15550 5 months ago
@davidnerd I was about to post the very same thing, not very well thought out as a result think its a poor concept then you ahve to think about the waves, check out the solar tower in spain that is already in operation, 300MW electricity (not the greatest source of energy but 100 clean and renewable energy)
Devilzwishbone2009 5 months ago
okkee i've never seen this before, but it looks nice. Well if we all use this kind off energy we should do better in a view years from now.
Energievergelijking 5 months ago
If you are boiling see water this could also be used to convert seawater in to drinking water by condensation of the steam into fresh water. Brilliant idea!
stuemccr 6 months ago
When this is built, it will be a great victory against the oil titans!
Beef1188 6 months ago
Solar power to perform electrolyses of water. Making 2parts Hydrogen, 1 part Oxygen. Recombine the Hydrogen with Oxygen (a Hydrogen Fuel Cell) to produce Electrical power with a by product of water. If no water is lost in the process and we gain power we can use any time (day or night). We can make all the power we need and keep our water. (Cleaning the water up as we do so.)
johnnnyreb51 6 months ago
system is a joke! under water pipes to transfer steam, heat loss would make the system useless.
johnnnyreb51 6 months ago
@johnnnyreb51 lol. The island would cost $100 million dollars, and in the end, not produce a single watt of electricity!!!
TheSelfGoverned 5 months ago
Very nice!
itsrickinaz 6 months ago
Solar energy-we must think of future generations! We only think of today, that's fine,
but there has to be a tomorrow also. It also as numerous implications in architectural designs, and aesthetic richness. All power to the SUN! FREE energy for all!
MrTempest77 6 months ago
yes we are human being, this d right way rather to killing each other for fossil fuel . . ., the steam is also can watered the desert and poor country so we can grow a forest and actually if we use it from the sea water it was have so many electrolyte so we can much easier to convert it to hydrogen for running our car :D
Grow our civilization and join !
zyclodiath 6 months ago
if these bankers and governments goal was to better this planet, this would have been done
ProtocolsMaster 7 months ago
Why doing this on water????
adri1259 7 months ago
@adri1259 cuz most of the earths surfaces is covered in water
969SobiasTokeS696 6 months ago
excuse me! very nice project but what is the song? i like it ! :)
3skyrock 7 months ago
@3skyrock Yea this song is dope for sure!
ColeFried81 6 months ago
and we are still inventing billions in factories that polluting air. This idea is fantastic i wish i have a lot of money and build that for my village.
crackmaster88 7 months ago
i dont see why you would piss around with steam and stuff, why not just use photovoltaic cells and just convert that shit right to electricity?
unix001 7 months ago
@unix001 Cus solar cells are very inefficient (even the best ones convert less than 30% of sunlight into electricity).
Kookas 7 months ago
@Kookas i think in the long run solar cells would be cheaper since they dont require pipes, steam turbines and generators/alternators. but like you said photovoltaic cells aren't very efficient so i guess it depends on whether you want cheap or efficiency
unix001 7 months ago
There are already better versions of this in operation in western US deserts. The ocean versions would never work. If undulating waves didn't destroy the structure, they would at least mis-align the reflectors so they would no longer heat the pipe. What about sea birds making nests and leaving their droppings? These floating platforms look like attractive habitat for many animals above and below. Not to mention cooling of steam as it is transported underwater. It would need very thick ins
adamszman 7 months ago
It does'nt get hit by 20 meter waves very often and even if it did it can weather the storm by ondulation because of its size and articulate built.
Size is all here
vergean 8 months ago
i have one problem with this, in the desert option, what happens when there is a desert storm, wouldnt that sand cover the reflectors hindering the entire heating process. i wish this was possible im a big fan of innovative design.
ellasOLE22 8 months ago
It's Nice.
harshsatra 8 months ago
If I where in charge I would make it my goldeneye like weapon, I will fry me some gulls.
Jaket2000 8 months ago
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ATZETM 8 months ago
The problem here is that the underwater pipeline. the hot liquid will cooling.
egidio314ever 8 months ago
The best part was the music.
Thegreyraccoon 8 months ago
is this real?
rage226294 8 months ago
Ridiculous. Beneath our feet there a 2,000 zetawatts that could be harvested without weather dependecy in a cheap and easy way. Instead monsterous projects that uses up millions of tons of presious materials shoud harvest sunlight! A not reliable energy source which is only there where nobody needs it. I.e. in deserts.
MillyVanillification 9 months ago
@MillyVanillification
So v. true. Neither you nor I are against any viable - PRAGMATIC source of energy, but if I hear or see one more solar promotion, I think I'm gonna blow up. Thanx for the remark which I wholly share. Tragically, the lemming public has little if any idea, by chance, worse still choice.
Take care.
death2pc 8 months ago
Build these, turn the Saharah desert and barren outback into things which support civilization.
ImperatorZor 9 months ago
The proyect is not possible. The movement of the sand and wind destroys the solar panels. The desert is in a eternal movement sand storms, winds,....
MrJosemariaq 9 months ago
This will happen very seldom and it will probably not hurt that much considering the size and the fact that it is articulted. Otherwise, repair, just like Nuclear Japan, except les dangerous and costly.
vergean 9 months ago
will the cold water eventually cool down the long piping before it reaches to the station? this engineer is so stupid even wasted his time drawing this.
deaftodd 9 months ago
@deaftodd They must have thought of that first hand, loulou! Don't laugh too loud.
vergean 9 months ago
@deaftodd That's what insulation is for.
TuckTheMaster 9 months ago
@deaftodd - well, these engineers are studying this for their life. This project is not a one man show but it is conducted by one of Europe's leading technical institutes and they invest US $ 100s of millions into this - one would assume that they would know the BASICS of the projects.... Steam is transported since several decades over longer distances; with today's technology with almost ZERO LOSS
usu15550 5 months ago
it's a nice idea but i think it will give more problem to the livinthing in the area
mishoo55 9 months ago
haha the steam would cool down under the sea in those pipes hahaha
MrRoberto05 10 months ago
even today we are using steam to make power all from coal solar atom all is using the power of steam. the only two i know of thats not using steam is windturbines and waterturbines. the islamds seems to be a step in the right direktion but there is always a but on the water as an eksemple the waves would be a big problem and the tubes thats goes to the beach should be reflexable and same time stasionary and non bending if y want to use the steam. but ill look forward to the finished projekt
JULEMANDEN99 10 months ago
@JULEMANDEN99 Photovoltaic... NO STEAM.
negr0plasty 10 months ago
"Water channel ensures airtight connection"?? My physics may not be all that good, but wouldn't the overpressure press the water out instead of the full island lying on the ground??
viclope 10 months ago
@viclope good point! didn't thought of that
cyberlord64 9 months ago
Energy loss during steam transit?? Bingo!!
rokzroom 10 months ago
the desert version is defintely the best one. Rotation of the whole structure is not even needed. In fact they are building tens 'static' versions of these thermo solar plants in Spain. Search for Andasol. This is the way to go, not wind (it disrupts local climate) , not electrovoltaic (after 15-20 yers cells need to be replaced). This is robust (Solar One facility has 20+ and works fine) cheap and we've huge deserts everywhere.
mrnitro30103 10 months ago 14
@mrnitro30103 No, I looked over that info on Andasol and their problem is the fact that it's not only remote (so can't be issued to home owners roofs, unlike solar panels) but it needs water as a cooling system. That takes water in places like Arizona and other desert places perfect for solar but where water conservation is important. They need to make solar panels more efficient and cheaper so more people can buy them for their own houses and be taken off the grid so plants need to be built.
Meda01 8 months ago
@mrnitro30103 U forgot the need for cooling, usally by water. Fortunaly deserts are full of water
sebsva 7 months ago
@sebsva haha... thats funny
jeffroboy48 7 months ago
@mrnitro30103 actually the desert version is not really the best one, since desert tend to be dusty and have sand storms. Both, the sand storms and the dust reduce the efficiency dramatically and increase the operational costs (cleaning and maintenance) - the best is most likely off shore in a calm bay or in a man made protected are on water....
usu15550 5 months ago
@usu15550
Ocean = Inversion layer, no good for sparkly mirror fantasies.
kyle92223 5 months ago
@kyle92223 - Inversion needs colder temperatures, like on the north California coast. These cold temperatures almost do not exist down there. There is almost no cooling down in that region. I have two friends in Dubai and never told me anything about inversion. And I would assume that an university which invests several US $ 100 millions would do its homework in that department too
usu15550 5 months ago
@mrnitro30103 - what is electrovoltaic? I studied this topic and only know either solar thermal or photovoltaic...
usu15550 5 months ago
Kharcheela project hai.....Expensive....instead concentrate sunlight to generate steam.......
ansarimoni 10 months ago
This seems like a serious attempt to save world from CO2!
Not some stupid green energy commercial, just to make you feel better...
About steam getting cold in water - Vacuum tubes and stuff can fix that.
Waves - If they could make it work for oil platforms, I am sure they can make it work for this.
Marine life - I would rather they make this stuff in desert
All the negative comments makes me feel some people don't really want this to work ?!
SovincPeter 10 months ago
This is worst compared to a solar updraft tower because you need a lot of water to just have this idea move, okay where not short of water but that just extra resources needed to move the water to that prokect site for it to be a working rig.
400knockout 10 months ago
On shore ones seems like a good idea but surely they can see the many problems of having a floating island in a unstable sea environment?
wignog 10 months ago
PLEASE. TELL. ME. THE. NAME. OF. THAT. SONG!!! I WILL HUNT YOU DOWNNNNNNN!! omg that song is just tooooo niceeeee.... my bad i had a moment.
MsKhadijahCamille 10 months ago
1. waves would warp the hell out of the platform decreasing overall efficiency.
2. transporting steam many kilometers though cold seawater will further reduce efficiency.
3. as already stated the marine life would be disrupted.
4.this design would require soooo much material in comparison to standard solar concentration technology and would produce less power per unit of space which begs the question, what is the point of this?
danthemanzizzle 10 months ago
Seriously? Never going to happen like that. One reason is if you try to send HOT steam though a cold ocean it's going to turn back in to water... You would have to produce the energy on the solar island and send the energy produced to where it is needed directly. It would have little to NO effect on ocean life considering the ocean is so vast the sun light it blocks out would have almost no effect. It would have more of an effect on land than at sea... Good concept bad engineering.
holyphantomcow 11 months ago
cool music and visuals!
ozafter1 11 months ago
I love the idea, but how do you keep the high seas from beating the shit out of the structure when the waves are several feet high and there are high winds?
randommagnum 11 months ago
one word: Hurricane
piraat6666 11 months ago
I like the concept, but like M4, you are taking solar energy form the ocean and how the currents move. Better to have them in a desert. Also having these steam lines run inland in water after great distances would casue condensation and loss of heat. Loss of heat = loss of energy and if you know about steam power plants, you need the heat transfer
junostyles01 11 months ago
by the way won"t the steam cool underwater?
MrGGGGIO 11 months ago
I don't understand how the solar tracking works.....
SaeedOshee 11 months ago
What happens when it gets hit by 20 meter wave?
Caleb6543 11 months ago 48
@Caleb6543 it will be gone withe wind
khalid6591 11 months ago
@Caleb6543
Yes because ALL areas of ocean experience 20m waves ALL the time. Get out troll.
grdja83 9 months ago
@Caleb6543 then the all the heat energy for the day would be lost... lol
yamenhawit 9 months ago
@Caleb6543 imagine you in the beach.a wave comes and you are not swallow by the wave because it's like if you were a boat. when you see a boat , it could be stopped but the waves effect make it move
egidio314ever 8 months ago
@Caleb6543 i will never happen .. because it can fly like an UFO
tommyn79 6 months ago
@Caleb6543 It gets all wet!
damianpaz 5 months ago
@Caleb6543 well, it would be place in either a natural calm or protected place or then in a man made calm bay to protect it from 20 meter waves....
usu15550 5 months ago
this kind tecnology is the archimede project actually alreaddy work in sicily italy, but cannot apply this kind tecnology in the ocean !!! need the land
cinacosedafare 11 months ago
why dont use this on north pole! maybe would help with the mealting isues!
6san6sei6 1 year ago 2
ok, so why dont they just build underwater wind turbines and place them in the powerful underwater currents...
TycoonsiPhone 1 year ago
@TycoonsiPhone Tidal/wave action power is already in production in many places.
konchog3 1 year ago
@konchog3 SWEETNESS!!!!!
TycoonsiPhone 1 year ago
how about use the islamd to make hydrogen thru electrolisis?
cabfa18wg 1 year ago
The idea to transmit steam is a bit ordinary, you would be better off having on-site turbines with alternators and use a hermetically sealed coolant system with heat exchanges and then transmit via submarine EHV cables to mainland. The only concern I have and has already been mentioned would be the lack of incident light under the collectors which would interfere with sea life and ocean currents on a localised and potently global scale. Great idea but needs further research.
djyeshua 1 year ago
as the steam travels through the underwater pipelines, they will lose an enormous percentage of heat and its efficiency. Unless scientists come up with a very cheap super insulator, that can be molded into miles of pipeline, this idea does not make sense as such!! nice try though.
kartikeya1985 1 year ago
1:52
You should consider booosting output to 1.21 Gigawatts... What if I need to go back to the future?
nazaxprime 1 year ago
wtf ? why not have the generator set up on the island itself (its not like it is going to make a difference these islands already look huge) and transmit power to the mainland via undersea cables. by doing this you would also decrease the thermal losses.
somud1 1 year ago
@somud1 Sounds good to me.
IslandMultimedia 8 months ago
This should be built on land. There are many ways to adjust for the sunlight, turning the whole complex is not needed. Further, the steam could be re-condensed into drinking water to increase the cost effectiveness of its construction. Alternative system would grow cyanobacteria (algae) in tanks, for greatest energy conversion and making biodiesel from cyanobacteria.
ostralopithicus 1 year ago
@ostralopithicus yes, on land. arizona and nevada have much unused land and few storms or earthquakes. After a few years a storm wil turn these islands (and all the investment capital) to junk. katrina, haiti?
suedonym0 1 year ago
and when a hurricane comes?!?!?!
l3annanaMan 1 year ago
@l3annanaMan same thing that happens to an oil rig, I guess.
CarlosIsDown 1 year ago
people all the power we need is in magnets , its how the solar system does what it does , if magnetic energy works for the galaxy why not us , solar is great but we need long turm power , one big volcano and what good is solar , we need energy that is not affected by planetary changes , that is magnetic s we have them but our gutless nation will not stand up anymore agents the powers that keep technology out of the public eye ,
great idea many things could be added to the island hatchery s ec
headlightguy 1 year ago
I would like to see all those pipes and stuff crack and deform on high waves :D
Tkc138 1 year ago
unless solar technology becomes cheaper this concept is unpractical.
bderousse 1 year ago
this could work i want this to be test i order the gevorment
samisazerahga 1 year ago
so interesting!
bitacorabright365 1 year ago
stupid. unfeasible
future2501 1 year ago
@m4rkpj What if the island were a moving island and moved before it had any effect on plant life below, and what if it were over a deep part of the water, where sunlight would have dissipated before it would even reach animal and plant life?
blochead23 1 year ago
@blochead23 1) if the island moved, that could create some problems with the pipelines, especially because if they were not anchored, an object that large floating in the ocean would be at the mercy of the tides.
2) "if it were over a deep part of the water" indicates the thought that things only live at the bottom of the oceans... a lot of stuff in water lives near the surface, not at the bottom (examples: fish, planton, porpoises, etc.)
nore328 1 year ago
@nore328
1) there exist very resistant and flexible piplines so medium movements of the "island" won't affect anything bad at all. On top of that, you can easily install GPS-controlled motors on each side of the "island" to keep it on its coordinates.
2) fish and porpoises would just swim to brighter places and plankton wouldn't be able to do photosynthesis until it's swept away to a brighter place. (how bad..)
Croccer333 1 year ago
sahara desert would seem more viable
shakin2009 1 year ago
yeah this is a bad idea for so many reasons. its nice that people are thinkin green though but this would just harm the environment
duffman1221 1 year ago
tell me how this thing will work if you lay the hot steam pipes under cold water?
it will cool the steam down, and then what?
NewEnergy1985 1 year ago
this will work
john1133221 1 year ago
Stormless Ocean (TM)
AspiringPotato 1 year ago
Great idea, but how many places in the world is the ocean stable enough all year round to support such a massive mega structure and piping the steam to power plants? Why not just send it through deep sea cables?
Zappyguy111 1 year ago
solar on everything., cars planes boats bikes EVERYTHING, the time has come. dont we all agree? lets stop fooling ourselves,i can be done
witecracker2 1 year ago
@witecracker2
I think you should check out the actual EFFICIENCY of solar first...
Nuclear all the way! Well, not portable nuclear devices, that'd be stupid. But so awesome...
Zappyguy111 1 year ago
nice concept, however, the best solution is to stick a solar power system on top of the roof tops of homes. It will take up much less space and is far more economical.
shafaq007 1 year ago
Very cool concept. However, my first impression is the cost would far exceed the energy that could be produced. Also, the ocean salt water would be hard on this.
imikewillrockyou 1 year ago
Looks interesting!
amberjacksolar 1 year ago
what happens when there are 100 foot waves? and you have steal pipes that can't bend.
omgwowface 1 year ago
Have them shipped to your stretch of desert in containers, assemble on site and off you go.
Not as pretty and impressive as the islands tho, which have other advantages if you get them right (potential for using extraterritorial waters being main of them)
nosuchthingasshould 1 year ago
@nosuchthingasshould In such case a more flexible approach, lending itself to quick mass production (made in china, of course)and easier to adjust to the contour of the land, would be to use smaller (say, roughly, 3m radius? that could vary anyway) turntables, mounted on a grid of steam and cold water pipes.
nosuchthingasshould 1 year ago
@nosuchthingasshHaving said that, if you are going to put these things on land, you are unlikely, due to their size, to place them where land is at a premium. That way one of the main selling points of the design, that of over 95% use of space, is not so important anymore.
nosuchthingasshould 1 year ago
@nosuchthingasshould They have the prototype platform ready and turning, awaiting the installation of the solar elements. They also seem to be going ahead with the seaborne versions, judging by all the circular earthworks going on just offshore. Check out the satellite pictures available on the company website -the dockyards? I say good luck to them.
nosuchthingasshould 1 year ago