In all honesty, doing something this stupid should generate a feeling of stupidity. You should evaluate your purpose for life, if it's creating videos like this than it is blatantly apparent that you are not needed. Devote your time to solving a problem or helping someone else. How could the whole lot of Blasphemy Challenge participants not understand how blasphemy works. This is not a great example of a video, instead it is a poor excuse for a reason to feel good about oneself.
Almost everyone denies the power/existence of the Holy Spirit in there life, but denying the Holy Spirit is not the unforgivable sin at all !!! the unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit....According to the bible this blasphemy has to do with someone witnessing Jesus Christ performing a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit. So an atheist can't even commit this sin because he/she doesn't even think satan or the Holy Spirit exist!!!
Antagonistic idiots enjoy attacking Christians to offend, stir up animosity, and to get a reaction. "A wise man speaks because he has something to say. An idiot speaks because he has to say something." The LATTER applies to you!
FFFFFRRRREEEEEDDDDOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!! Yes, that's the point, Dr. Zach. And I, like you, have felt liberated by the ability to ANNOUNCE the understandings that my intellectual integrity have driven me to. And i agree that it's wonderful to be able to talk civilly with those of other beliefs. Bravo on this 'challenge' well met.
The Blasphmy Challenge Is Pure Crap Maybe If you people spent as much time reading the Bible as much as you do on this crap you would probly understand what God Is Really about
The easiest way to become an Atheist is to read the bible. In fact, I know more Atheists who read the bible than Christians who read the bible. I have one friend who gets onto me who considers herself a Christian, even though she doesn't lead a Christian life, doesn't read the bible, and doesn't go to Church.
Religion is false. God exists only a concept in people's heads. There is no man in the sky watching you poop.
Fritz, I know Zach. He has read the whole Bible, and like other atheists who have read it (which is most of them), it's finding out what's REALLY in there which put us on the road to becoming atheists.
The whole "Blaspheme" thing was a silly and frankly, stupid "challenge" in order to offend Christians-
Good- I hope they continue to lash out at Christians and accuse them of being evil, cruel, despicably delusional while at the same time (ironically) holding them to a "higher" ethical standard... \\
Did you just put Richard Dawkins in the same sentence with Brian Sapient? The Rational Response Squad? I don't think Dawkins has ever been associated with any type of "Squad" before. He will surely be pleased.
heres a link to a video on youtube about bible prophecy where a guy in my opinion proves god and the bible to be real. Its worth a look at wether it changes your mind or doesnt.its an interesting video. as for any atheist who wants to bitch at me for posting it .Dont, theres no point in it im not the arguing type.
"The sweetest fruit I ever tasted"... But it's the forbidden fruit! Please feel free to taste it again and again! You made a beautiful point here... :)
we may not have numbers on our side in a battle of physical violence, but we have integrity. no religious person who believes in something without evidence or demonstration can claim the smallest shred of integrity
the nature of christians is to get together and unite and all agree on a way of life and force it on others around them. it is the nature of atheists to not have to get together and not to decide on a single way of life that is to be forced on everyone or anyone for that matter. atheists believe in allowing everyone their own beliefs no matter how absurd. some see that as a weakness of atheists. it's our strongest point
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This is a good one. At the end you sum it up as "the sweetest fruit you've ever tasted", well little homey, you nailed it. Like the fruit of the tree of knowledge you are poisoned by the pride of your intelligence. This is the danger of tasting the fruit like God warns. You've become so self absorbed in making yourself out to be the all knowing that somehow you've cut yourself off from the graces of God. Faith is out of your reach.
I just want to say that I love Jesus. I know that I as a human am not perfect but Jesus makes me perfect in his love. I say this to the Rational Response Squad, the one who posted this video, and anyone else. Jesus Christ died for our sins. He died because he loves us. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only son so whoever believes in him shall not perish but have life everlasting. John 3:16. I just want to leave you with this God loves you no matter what you have done.
whats the point of testing it out if u would already die in your sins without committing blasphemy, theres not one. Also, christians have the ability to question everything. It is good to take a scientific approach to everything in questioning truth to see if it can hold water.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age [your lifetime], neither in the age to come[the millenial reign].
But after those 2 ages Zak God will forgive you or anyone else for that matter.
jeetkunejimi, you must be new...otherwise you wouldn't have posted more Bible spam...just like we've seen from so many thousands of other "True Christians".
I don't expect a rational answer as I didn't get one previously. Take ur time, I know how difficult it is to truly deal with truth as it as it has the annoying habit of setting you free. Nothing bless.
Rational? About a verse referring to a supernatural ghost-like being-thingy? LOL!
For our entertainment please keep trying to tell me about rationalty.
I'm my own god? I don't believe in gods...but nice use of the one of the usual pathetic Christian strawmen when they have nothing rational to say.
Oh...you might want to actually learn about what Evolution REALLY states instead of spouting some lame Christian version of it to try and back some odd moralistic point of your religion.
I don't only disbelieve in god. I also disbelieve in countries. I dislike the fact there are several countries with different jurisdictions, armies and badly-structured languages.
you deny nothing but yourself. In the chapter mark, he miss understood that what jesus said for it was not a direct quote. Read the bible correctly so you wont be miss lead. You can buy a bible with direct quotes from jesus and when you do you will not see that quote by jesus becuase it was by mark.
You are very misguided. You obviously don't care what happens to you in the long run. Mark chapter 3 does contain the unpardonable sin, and the holy spirit isn't really Satan. You need help!
Because someone doesn't believe your religions claims which it cannot back up...this means that they don't care about what happens to them in the long run? By the "long run" I assume you are talking about one of the many ideas of an afterlife...you know that make-believe idea that many people like but couldn't prove exists to save their life, LOL!
My god (not yours) people! Why is it only Christians who respond? Cant you see that these people have made up their minds? This man dosn't have to agree with you, he only has to tolerate you!
Where you place you time, is where you place your values. You are simply evil. You are corrupted by sin, your flesh, and the world of anti-Christians. This is sad to see how you spend you time denying God.
I can understand questioning religion and government but I would not be so quick to challenge GOD. That could be playing with fire, but I don't know. I believe in GOD and Jesus, but I believe they love all. But this is just weird.
Well I must say as fashonable as this has become amoung young people I am simply not impressed.
What you are doing is basically saying (F-You) to someone elses beliefs which is simply crass and shows a lack of character.
Standing up against Violent beliefs Religious or otherwise is understandable but spitting in the face of anothers beliefs most definately does not show your intellectual superiority it simply smacks of immaturity in the form of a childish need to rebell!
Its only spam if its unsolicited. These people are all asking for a response. It also doesnt qualify as spam because I don't copy and paste the same message more than one time to each person and I am more than willing to continue past the initial statement.
Last but not least they are not complaining so if you don't like it complain to someone that cares.
But it was unsolicited and you did just copy and past a standard to a number of different videos. You spammed, CA...own up to it...oh, that's right, "conservatives" don't take responsibility for what they do.
No, I am most definitely not forcing you to see things my way i am not trying to force you to believe my way or trying to show that it's easy to be a christian, but i just want you to have a glimpse of what i see. thanks for listening to my rant. :]
Yes, being a christian is not easy at times, in fact there are times when i do question myself and my decision but God is just so amazing and so...indescribable...that it doesn't even matter. If being a christian was easy, the churches would be full to overflowing.
us as humans want to understand everytihng about the universe and everything that's going on, that's just apart of our nature, but God has called us to not rely on our own understanding, and instead, put our faith in him that he knows what he's doing and where he's taking us, and that is what i've chosen to do.
you can really see that theory doesn't hold up in the long run. and along with the whole "well where did God come from?" arguement, the thing is, God has always been, he is the beggining and the end, and we are not able to comprehend that.
i mean, you can say that the earth came to be by gases and universal explosions, and even though that makes sense, if you look at it deeper, like, where did those elements come from? and those? and those?
you have to give him everything and trust him with everything, putting faith in him. i mean i know it sounds so dumb to have faith in something that you really have no proof of, but that is the point of faith, believing without seeing.
i mean shouldn't be, internally tortured witht he fear of what is going to happen to them, i totally agree with that. but the thing is, that is a part of having a relationship with God.
ALL YOU ATHEIST CALL OUT GOD AND GIVE HIM A TIME LIMIT!! IF HE DOESN'T APPEAR TO YOU WITHIN, THEN DON'T BELIEVE!! BUT I ASSURE YOU HE WILL!!! YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE BLASPHEMED MARK 3:29 SAYS "DANGER" of ETERNAL DAMNATION not THE TOTAL!!! ALSO ONLY TRUE BELIEVERS WHO HAVE SEEN JESUS CAN COMMIT THIS SIN! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. YOU HAVE CHANCE UNTIL YOU DIE!!!
The blasphemy of the spirit is not a one time act,but an ongoing rejection of the spirit of truth which testifies of Jesus through a life time.Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,but no man can come unto the father except through him.
Even people who sound very intelligent have the right to go to Hell. We are given free will. Whosoever shall call upon the Lord will be saved. Do with it what you feel you need to do. You go boy!!! God Loves you regardless.
And those who passed by blaspemed Him,wagging their heads saying,Aha!You who destory the temple and build it in 3 days,save Yourself,and come down from the cross!Likewise the chief preist also,togther with the scibes,and mocked and said among themselves,He saved others,Himself He cannot save.
I hear what your saying, but still, I wouldn't risk it all knowing that saying that might get you into hell... and I know in my heart that it WILL get you into hell.
Well I do understand your argument and will admit that it does take faith to belief in God who has no maker. I do believe that God has always been, and was not created.
Buildings have builders. Paintings have painters. Cars have makers. A logical person will see that Creation has a creator. I am sorry to those who have been hurt by Christians or churches and I would love to talk to you. Feel free to add me on google talk.
I am praying that you will realize the Truth. Oh, and you might have to wait a while. Maybe my prayers won't be answered the way I want them to be answered. But they will be answered even if I don't see it. I guess we'll all find out what happens when we die. Do you believe in death?
But I wonder what the point of prayer is if there's no guarantee that they'll be answered. Seems like if the Christian god is going to show me the "Truth," he can decide to do so without any encouragement from you. But if you feel that you need to volunteer an empty gesture to feel better about my apostasy, go for it.
Praying for what, exactly? Whatever it is, set your watches now, and we'll see if anything happens. I'm always interesting in testing the efficacy of prayer.
At least you correctly interpreted the scripture. But, you said you weren't afraid to ask questions - and this is freedom. In your video, you stated, "...the Holy Spirit cannot be seen....'" Then you conclude firmly at the end there is no Holy Spirit. This is a severe error of logic. You have only scratched the surface of the epistemological question in your video.
issuser, you have only scratched at the surface of his video. He doesn't believe it for quite a number of reasons more than just because he can't see the H.S. This video was topic related only to the subject matter of the B.C. video.
But nice try at using the epistemological word anyway.
Electro, please explain to me in the above post where I stated that not seeing the H.S. is the only reason he doesn't believe in God. You have obviously missed the point I was making regarding the logic path to his video's conclusion. If you even came close to understanding what I was infering, it would suprise me greatly.
Uh...right here (can't you read your own posts, issuer?):
issuer said: "you stated, "...the Holy Spirit cannot be seen....'" Then you conclude firmly at the end there is no Holy Spirit. This is a severe error of logic.
Im not trying to prove a point to win an arguement. If God exsists, he must have made himself known right? Experience is never at the mercy of an arguement.One has to humble himself and understand that he needs God. If you want proof,start here on your spiritual journey(wikipedia jabal al lawz),and then move out of an "Egyptian state of mind" like the Israelites did to find the ONE TRUE GOD. It's then that you will understand the biblical progression. My hope for you is eternal life with Jesus.
Hey, denying the holy spirit is not a "do and die" kind of deal. What Jesus meant by this is that without the holy spirit we can't communicate with God, and without communication with God, we can't ask for forgiveness. However, we can never permanently kick the holy spirit out of our lives. If we truly repent we can always receive him again. Look to him and he'll be there with open arms, waiting to lovingly welcome you into heaven.
That's your interpretation, but why should I believe you? The text seems plain enough to me. Besides, the meaning itself is irrelevant- the whole point of the Challenge is that I'm not afraid to question God's existence.
It not a bad thing to be open about your beliefs. I'm not condemming anyone- in fact, as a Christian, I don't believe in an ETERNALLY burning hell. I think that my interpretation is correct because it just would not make sense for God to put a rule there that makes it impossible to be saved. I mean, losing just one of us is such pain to God. He loves you.
God is not your magic wishing well. He knows what is best for you. No, he won't just forcibly "change your mind". Those who find God are those who search, and those who search are those who desire a relationship with him. If he forcibly made himself known to you, you would serve him out of fear, rather than love, and he does not want that. God hates to see you suffer, he loves you, he will save you from all this.
It is normal to struggle with the question God's existence, but blaspheming the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with questioning God's existence. It may very well be something that you will later regret.
Im not a Bible scholar , But I do beleive in Jesus as My Saviour. Who else better to follow? Than any of these other people, or the Man that made this video you watched. That I have not seen yet! But I will not Ever give up my soul to such a stupid thing to me? All I can say is satan has you by the balls right now! And you can question everything all you want right now! But you will be begging for eternity later. And I will prey for all of you! David Reid
so wat JesusLivesInAllOfUs is saying is that satan is the one who makes people question things and people who think about the othersides of issues go to hell.
No thats not exactly what im saying here. To think of other sides of issues is fine! But to Sit up here as I have just seen with another person to have god, Chop of my arm, Poke me in the stomach etc... Then act upon them in a video like that! That is not Ratioal thought. Or just to say? attack one god with the bible, when you are supose to not belive in any gods what so ever. Thats not Rational thinking. want more talk to me direct floody20, I am ready to talk rational.
And yes this is me as well, But I did not want to bring my music into these questions at hand. But this was the first night I ever heard of this thing, And I was sick at my stomach. So I chose that user name quickly. I also had questioned this matter my whole life! Doubts, I think everyone has about many things. And to question them is ok. To act upon them in such matters like the girl I seen. That, I do not think is rational thinking? Think about it?
Jesus died for our sins, And I think he would even forgive this if you asked truly. That is my belief. But I am trying not to bring religion into this matter as much as I possibly can. But Thats hard to do because of the matter at hand.
You fools! Don't you all realise that there is a deadline for when 'they' are supposed to show up here? Rael is no spring chicken you know. Which means he will probably be dead by the time that date arrives. At which point you will all realise that you've been taken for a ride. HAHAHA
very well put, christians yell that we take tings out of context but if you truly look at the contexts of some of the passages of the bible they yield a similar meaning that invoke the same ends.
The sweetest fruit you've ever tasted. It's too bad you missed out on the Garden of Eden. There was this apple, from the tree of knowledge. I never tried it, but I hear it was AWESOME. And the consumption of it led to the whole human condition thing, but what are you gonna do?
I have NEVER met a true atheist. All people that claim to be atheist clearly have some sort of bitterness toward God when they start talking about it. You never see just a calm and collective atheist. Its disagreement, not disbelief. Think about it. When there is something I truly don't believe in, I don't even pay attention to it. Most "atheists" want to start angry debates, create controversy (IE: the blasphemy challenge), and question God.
You have a good point- we wouldn't normally talk about those things in which we don't believe. However, if 80% of the adult population truly believed in Santa Claus, prayed to him everyday, and insisted that one couldn't be a moral person without believing that they would be rewarded with presents at Christmastime, I think I'd also post an entry to a "Santa Challenge" kind of event.
Jason: I was an atheist first, and opposed religion second; it didn't happen the other way around. Atheists are very peaceful Humanists, but if you want to know why we all vehemently oppose religion, well that's because we see it for what it is - a divisive means of controlling people.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful". - Seneca
Religion is a tool that limits free will, and it is therefore a threat to the human community.
Sup I am a Christian and I would like to hear more of what you think about religion. If you have a myspace then find me at /manuel_7777(It wont let me put a wabsite so just add myspace in front of that for my URL). I am here to listen and talk. Its your choice!!! Thanks to your free will that God has given us, which is why you made this video. So look me up!!! Hope to hear from you!!!
oh i'm sorry i didn't clarify (no sarcasm intended) what i meant was that if you don't belive in either was that you can't REALLY be attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to Satan, and therefore not commiting blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. i understand the point of saying it is just to make a statement, i'm just pointing out that its not actually blasphemy. nor am i arguing with you, because really a debate on youtube will not change either of our beliefs i do not think.
Hmm... well, that's a strange way to define "blasphemy." I've usually seen it defined as pertaining to "saying" or "doing" something, and never with the requirement of orthodoxy to fulfill it. But again, whether it actually IS blasphemy or not is beside the point- the whole point of this exercise is to show that if it were blasphemy, and I was in danger of hellfire because of it, I'm not afraid to take that chance because I don't see any reason to believe it.
lmao nice until the end. Jesus was a real person regardless of divinity, and why would you attribute the work of something you don't believe in to the doing of something else you don't believe in? thats like me saying the easter bunny does the work for santa.
You mean, why would I say that "The Holy Spirit is really Satan?" Because that's more in keeping with the actual context of the passage, if you listen to my explanation again. Whether I believe in either is beside the point, which is to publicly engage in an activity which is threatened with everlasting torture by the Bible. The fact that I'm willing to risk everlasting damnation is by way of saying that I'm not afraid of being wrong.
I'm surprised to hear about this fear of "coming out"..this fear that amreican posters often refer to. Here in Oz, 'coming out' is practically the rule rather than the exception.
I have noticed there are mostly whites {a few asians, a jew or two}, but no blacks or hispanics. What does that say? Whites want to be their own god. That is what is at the heart of all atheist, they have fallen for the original lie from the garden of Eden "Ye shall be as God, knowing good & evil". The atheist wants to portray themself as a superior intellectual. Instead, they are just suckers, falling for that same old lie again.
You really "appeared" intelligent until you said, "Jesus didn't exist." You don't have to believe that he was the Son of God but historically, he was a real person who really did exist.
Yes, the sweetest Fruit indeed. The Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Never be afraid to question, then reach out for the answers...no gods will smack your hand away.
Dr. Zach, you seemed articulate, learned, and intelligent from your videos! God allows His human creation to have complete freedom and you truly do have the freedom to do what you want or say, I just hope that you will choose otherwise one day! And although I sincerely disagree with you, you have been blessed with your life and I thank God for your amicable character.
If he has the "freedom to question anything", then he should question himself sincerely and ask, "what if there is a God?" no matter how "irrational" it seems.
Because if God IS real, and is the ultimate creator/designer as believed by millions, then who's irrational now? Jeremiah 29:13
I was never afraid of declaring my disbelief in the concept of god to anyone. I do however, find it heartening to discover that there are people out there who are capable of rational thought. I eagerly join their chorus and embrace them as long lost brethren.
If you have ever tasted the fruit of God and the fruit of his blessings then you would reconsider your last statement. Only a fool Denys Gods existence. If you do not know everything you cannot deny in Christ or of God or the Holy Spirt. We are just mere flesh, how can we judge what is good and what is not? We are young and naive.
It's interesting, you say, "not a shred of proof to back it up." It makes me wonder what type of proof you'd accept. After all, this is not a scientific question, but a philosophical question. Tell me what you think.
I looked at that link and it was interesting, but none of it was new or original with charliegee1111111111 himself, however. He slipped in a few presuppositions and logical inconsistencies along the way, but I could see he put some good thought into it.
As far as the poof issue goes, would you accept historical and eye-witness evidence, like we all accept in a court of law?
Why do Christians often argue that it needs to be new and interesting when they haven't even begun to answer those problems in their assertions?
I wouldn't accept unverified eyewitness testimony from a person about something that doesn't exist.
Do you accept the testimony of a mentally ill person who sees monsters when off of their medication as proof of those monsters? How about a drug addict? How about believers in other gods?
Ok, well I think we can both agree that the credibility of a witness has quite a bit to do with whether or not their testimony should be taken into consideration. So I assume that you would accept evidence the same way a court of law would in the US? You would take the testimony of a witness, and evaluate it. -cont.
Not necessairly. I am not a court of law but you will find that a court of law would not be able to favorably go along with your baseless god claims due the the criteria they have to consider.
I think we can also both agree that a judge or jury should evaluate the evidence and not throw it out just because the claims seem out of the ordinary or go against the listener's pre-conceived religious/metaphysical notions. Or do you think I'm out of line?
ELECTROGOD So are you saying you would have a higher burden of proof for the evidence you would accept than a court of justice in the US? If so, why would you be afraid of evidence of that sort.
It's interesting, since we are just tossing back and forth generalities. What about specific evidence claims? Would you like to look at empirical evidence for God's existence or perhaps for the resurrection of Jesus?
When it comes to a historical investigation, it is important to come to the evidence with an open mind and not make up your decisions ahead of time. It is much like a police detective. He needs to move where the evidence leads regardless of the implications. In looking at forensic or historical evidence, you can never have 100% certainty, but make your decision based upon the preponderance of the evidence.
[cont.] It is a reasonable expectation, because we convict people in the US judicial system this way every day. With the resurrection, I am making the claim, therefore I bear the burden of proof for that claim. If you come up with a counter claim, you would have the same burden for your own. So let's not have any, "Aliens stole the body," stuff unless you have some 1st century evidence that supports the claim.
Uh, how have I not done that? Christians seem to come to it with extremely closed minds...minds already made up that it MUST be true. They would have to because it sure isn't verifiable historically.
Actually, history investigation isn't really about having an open mind, it's about meeting certain criteria.
I guess you're talking about "The God That Wasn't There?" Are you suggesting that Brian Flemming had anything but straw-men arguments in his homemade DVD? If so, please give your top 5 books on either side of this argument.
By the way, when you are talking about a claimed historical event, such as the resurrection of Jesus, historical and forensic investigation will work just fine. Why would you be afraid of such a thing? I mean I'm the super naturalist here.
Oh, you think I didn't watch "The God That Wasn't There"? I did watch it because I've studied those topics in the undergraduate and graduate level and hoped he'd come up with some good arguments, or something I hadn't heard before. Instead all I heard were a series of straw-man arguments explained by his "experts." Have you ever heard, "Don't ask an encyclopedia salesman if you need an encyclopedia?" Well, don't ask a "folkloreist" if something really old is "folklore."
[cont.] He completely ignored all of the historical evidence for Jesus, secular and Christian. For instance, Jesus was mentioned as a historical figure by sources written within 150 years of His death, like The Jewish Talmud, Josephus, Pliny, Tacitus, and others. You will have to work pretty hard to find scholars who argue the thesis that Jesus never lived. Even most "liberals" dismiss these views as baseless. It has been refuted time and time again.
[cont.] Why? Because there are first century references to Jesus, several of which critical scholars date to within months to a couple of years after Jesus' death. I'm speaking here chiefly of the early creeds in the New Testament, like 1 Corinthians 15:3ff. Besides all of the New Testament writings, we have a few extra-biblical writings that date from the mid-first century to about 110 AD. Altogether, there are even about a dozen and a half non-Christian sources that mention
[cont.] Jesus within the first 150 years after his death. To give you an idea, Julius Caesar only has a half dozen such references. A good book to find an exhaustive list of those sources is Gary Habermass' book, "The Historical Jesus" (College Press, 1996). Also you can see Lee Strobel's new book, "The Case for the Real Jesus" which came out just last month. I say all this so we can put away the ludicrous claim that Jesus didn't exist and assume he did for this discussion. Fair enough?
I'm trying to imagine this alternate universe. Brian Flemming is a valid, well-respected documentary filmmaker, but Lee Strobel is a hack. One's claim to fame is having gone to a private Christian school run by an inarticulate principal and the other has been trained as a lawyer and worked as a journalist for the Chicago Tribune and then wrote half a dozen best-sellers.
But seriously, whatever you do, don't read one of those books. They have proven quite influential in our society [cont.]
[cont.] and have led many an atheist to belief in God and later to trust in Jesus. Why else do you find him attacked on atheist web sites so much? After all, Strobel is just a back-slidden atheist himself.
You may not be ready to look at the historical evidence for Jesus' resurrection just yet. Establishing He existed is more like crawling before you can walk. Since you like to trade web sites so much, check out Gary Habermas (.) com without any spaces.
The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to those who seek life it is power.
GriiiiiiinD 1 week ago
In all honesty, doing something this stupid should generate a feeling of stupidity. You should evaluate your purpose for life, if it's creating videos like this than it is blatantly apparent that you are not needed. Devote your time to solving a problem or helping someone else. How could the whole lot of Blasphemy Challenge participants not understand how blasphemy works. This is not a great example of a video, instead it is a poor excuse for a reason to feel good about oneself.
chica0616 7 months ago
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Father forgive them for they know not what they do
Jesusgospel 1 year ago
Wow you looked like you were creaming your pannts when You said Jesus didnt exist. did you feel that tingly feeling.
dawildabeast24 1 year ago
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Almost everyone denies the power/existence of the Holy Spirit in there life, but denying the Holy Spirit is not the unforgivable sin at all !!! the unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit....According to the bible this blasphemy has to do with someone witnessing Jesus Christ performing a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit. So an atheist can't even commit this sin because he/she doesn't even think satan or the Holy Spirit exist!!!
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
God does exist.
SummerSunshine1988 1 year ago
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Antagonistic idiots enjoy attacking Christians to offend, stir up animosity, and to get a reaction. "A wise man speaks because he has something to say. An idiot speaks because he has to say something." The LATTER applies to you!
metalslut1 1 year ago
FFFFFRRRREEEEEDDDDOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!! Yes, that's the point, Dr. Zach. And I, like you, have felt liberated by the ability to ANNOUNCE the understandings that my intellectual integrity have driven me to. And i agree that it's wonderful to be able to talk civilly with those of other beliefs. Bravo on this 'challenge' well met.
ReligiousFiction 2 years ago 2
The Blasphmy Challenge Is Pure Crap Maybe If you people spent as much time reading the Bible as much as you do on this crap you would probly understand what God Is Really about
Fritzj91 2 years ago
The easiest way to become an Atheist is to read the bible. In fact, I know more Atheists who read the bible than Christians who read the bible. I have one friend who gets onto me who considers herself a Christian, even though she doesn't lead a Christian life, doesn't read the bible, and doesn't go to Church.
Religion is false. God exists only a concept in people's heads. There is no man in the sky watching you poop.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 4
Fritz, I know Zach. He has read the whole Bible, and like other atheists who have read it (which is most of them), it's finding out what's REALLY in there which put us on the road to becoming atheists.
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago
The whole "Blaspheme" thing was a silly and frankly, stupid "challenge" in order to offend Christians-
Good- I hope they continue to lash out at Christians and accuse them of being evil, cruel, despicably delusional while at the same time (ironically) holding them to a "higher" ethical standard... \\
hmmmm....
TainoRebelde 2 years ago
Did you just put Richard Dawkins in the same sentence with Brian Sapient? The Rational Response Squad? I don't think Dawkins has ever been associated with any type of "Squad" before. He will surely be pleased.
mrmres 3 years ago
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heres a link to a video on youtube about bible prophecy where a guy in my opinion proves god and the bible to be real. Its worth a look at wether it changes your mind or doesnt.its an interesting video. as for any atheist who wants to bitch at me for posting it .Dont, theres no point in it im not the arguing type.
/watch?v=gzDvFT9_2NU
ironsheik008 3 years ago
"The sweetest fruit I ever tasted"... But it's the forbidden fruit! Please feel free to taste it again and again! You made a beautiful point here... :)
gajulo 3 years ago
we may not have numbers on our side in a battle of physical violence, but we have integrity. no religious person who believes in something without evidence or demonstration can claim the smallest shred of integrity
THEREIZNOGOD 3 years ago
the nature of christians is to get together and unite and all agree on a way of life and force it on others around them. it is the nature of atheists to not have to get together and not to decide on a single way of life that is to be forced on everyone or anyone for that matter. atheists believe in allowing everyone their own beliefs no matter how absurd. some see that as a weakness of atheists. it's our strongest point
THEREIZNOGOD 3 years ago 2
Now that's some funny stuff right there
1oquinn 3 years ago
I only meant it in the nicest way. We can still be friends? Right?
1oquinn 3 years ago
...as long as there are no football players around.
moorezw 3 years ago
Tony Dungee and the colts should stomp you a new asshole. BELIVE THAT! LOL
How you like them APPLES?
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssLAM!!!!
1oquinn 3 years ago
Gee, thanks for that sincere Christian love and kindness.
It's too bad your kind of faith is out of my reach now.
moorezw 3 years ago
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This is a good one. At the end you sum it up as "the sweetest fruit you've ever tasted", well little homey, you nailed it. Like the fruit of the tree of knowledge you are poisoned by the pride of your intelligence. This is the danger of tasting the fruit like God warns. You've become so self absorbed in making yourself out to be the all knowing that somehow you've cut yourself off from the graces of God. Faith is out of your reach.
1oquinn 3 years ago
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I just want to say that I love Jesus. I know that I as a human am not perfect but Jesus makes me perfect in his love. I say this to the Rational Response Squad, the one who posted this video, and anyone else. Jesus Christ died for our sins. He died because he loves us. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only son so whoever believes in him shall not perish but have life everlasting. John 3:16. I just want to leave you with this God loves you no matter what you have done.
CyberGear118 3 years ago
Oh i get it now...
JESUS WAS POSSESSED BY A DEMON!!!!!!!!
Vanhelsing777 4 years ago
moorezw, thank you! This was educational.
magichandpuppet 4 years ago
I do not know you as 'the host of the evolution 101 podcast'....but where can I get that cool statue of Neo playing baseball?
sublimepro 4 years ago 2
whats the point of testing it out if u would already die in your sins without committing blasphemy, theres not one. Also, christians have the ability to question everything. It is good to take a scientific approach to everything in questioning truth to see if it can hold water.
bajiosmajio 4 years ago
wow thank you that was brilliantly thought out. I really liked that, and congrads for telling the truth
kamakazechris 4 years ago
Why do you not believe in God, Zach?
mrcowan009 4 years ago
Success based on making sense is a lesson and warning AGAINST doubting god ideas? LOL!
What are you smoking, DRMABUSA?
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Why do you not believe in God, Zach?
mrcowan009 4 years ago
...'cause gods don't exist.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Hi Zak, trust me you've never met a member of the true body of Christ, until now, hello, my name is Jimi.
Matthew 12
12:32
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age [your lifetime], neither in the age to come[the millenial reign].
But after those 2 ages Zak God will forgive you or anyone else for that matter.
jeetkunejimi 4 years ago
jeetkunejimi, you must be new...otherwise you wouldn't have posted more Bible spam...just like we've seen from so many thousands of other "True Christians".
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
I take it then that u have no answer to Matt 12:32.
I know what a pain it is to find out that if a God does exist He will forgive all of mankind no matter what.
Anyway as you believe in nothing biblically centered I supposed ur now ur own God?
What would you have a pedophile do, when his sexual preference is children, is Ok for him to date? And if not ELECTROGOD why?
If were just animals, then I guess its survival of the fitest then eh!?
jeetkunejimi 4 years ago
I don't expect a rational answer as I didn't get one previously. Take ur time, I know how difficult it is to truly deal with truth as it as it has the annoying habit of setting you free. Nothing bless.
jeetkunejimi 4 years ago
Rational? About a verse referring to a supernatural ghost-like being-thingy? LOL!
For our entertainment please keep trying to tell me about rationalty.
I'm my own god? I don't believe in gods...but nice use of the one of the usual pathetic Christian strawmen when they have nothing rational to say.
Oh...you might want to actually learn about what Evolution REALLY states instead of spouting some lame Christian version of it to try and back some odd moralistic point of your religion.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
See you soon.
jeetkunejimi 4 years ago
Quite doubtful, jeetkunejimi.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
I don't only disbelieve in god. I also disbelieve in countries. I dislike the fact there are several countries with different jurisdictions, armies and badly-structured languages.
Mann1979HH 4 years ago
you deny nothing but yourself. In the chapter mark, he miss understood that what jesus said for it was not a direct quote. Read the bible correctly so you wont be miss lead. You can buy a bible with direct quotes from jesus and when you do you will not see that quote by jesus becuase it was by mark.
ezplayer21 4 years ago
Quite right, ezplayer21, we can't REALLY deny something that doesn't exist.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
I think a cock is the sweetest thing hes ever tasted
blaze941201 4 years ago
Now why would you say something like that, blaze?
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Brian Flemming: I on behalf of the Human Race, award you the "BIGGEST DOUCHE IN THE UNIVERSE" award. (And Merry Christmas)
blaze941201 4 years ago
Because he won't buy into the Christian myth...anymore?
That's not what that South Park award is for.
Let me guess, blaze...you DO by into the Christian myth?
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
You are very misguided. You obviously don't care what happens to you in the long run. Mark chapter 3 does contain the unpardonable sin, and the holy spirit isn't really Satan. You need help!
winniewhitt 4 years ago
Because someone doesn't believe your religions claims which it cannot back up...this means that they don't care about what happens to them in the long run? By the "long run" I assume you are talking about one of the many ideas of an afterlife...you know that make-believe idea that many people like but couldn't prove exists to save their life, LOL!
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
My god (not yours) people! Why is it only Christians who respond? Cant you see that these people have made up their minds? This man dosn't have to agree with you, he only has to tolerate you!
delita2002 4 years ago
Where you place you time, is where you place your values. You are simply evil. You are corrupted by sin, your flesh, and the world of anti-Christians. This is sad to see how you spend you time denying God.
ameansnotheosgod 4 years ago
ameansnotheosgod, that was a great display of your religion's poison...and Christians wonder why we won't take up with a religion like their's.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Jesus overcame the world. Take Heart.
ameansnotheosgod 4 years ago
I can understand questioning religion and government but I would not be so quick to challenge GOD. That could be playing with fire, but I don't know. I believe in GOD and Jesus, but I believe they love all. But this is just weird.
nickpapageorgio81 4 years ago
Well I must say as fashonable as this has become amoung young people I am simply not impressed.
What you are doing is basically saying (F-You) to someone elses beliefs which is simply crass and shows a lack of character.
Standing up against Violent beliefs Religious or otherwise is understandable but spitting in the face of anothers beliefs most definately does not show your intellectual superiority it simply smacks of immaturity in the form of a childish need to rebell!
ConservativeAtheist 4 years ago
I'm seeing this comment from ConservativeAtheist being posted like spam on different videos.
Hmmmm.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Well its not the only response that I have posted which means its deffinately not spam.
ConservativeAtheist 4 years ago
But the way you did it and the number of times you cut and pasted it really does make it spam...and you know that, CA.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Its only spam if its unsolicited. These people are all asking for a response. It also doesnt qualify as spam because I don't copy and paste the same message more than one time to each person and I am more than willing to continue past the initial statement.
Last but not least they are not complaining so if you don't like it complain to someone that cares.
ConservativeAtheist 4 years ago
But it was unsolicited and you did just copy and past a standard to a number of different videos. You spammed, CA...own up to it...oh, that's right, "conservatives" don't take responsibility for what they do.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
No, I am most definitely not forcing you to see things my way i am not trying to force you to believe my way or trying to show that it's easy to be a christian, but i just want you to have a glimpse of what i see. thanks for listening to my rant. :]
kati
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
Yes, being a christian is not easy at times, in fact there are times when i do question myself and my decision but God is just so amazing and so...indescribable...that it doesn't even matter. If being a christian was easy, the churches would be full to overflowing.
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
us as humans want to understand everytihng about the universe and everything that's going on, that's just apart of our nature, but God has called us to not rely on our own understanding, and instead, put our faith in him that he knows what he's doing and where he's taking us, and that is what i've chosen to do.
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
you can really see that theory doesn't hold up in the long run. and along with the whole "well where did God come from?" arguement, the thing is, God has always been, he is the beggining and the end, and we are not able to comprehend that.
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
i mean, you can say that the earth came to be by gases and universal explosions, and even though that makes sense, if you look at it deeper, like, where did those elements come from? and those? and those?
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
And there is no proof that God doesn't exist, you can [not necessarily you just in general] say there is, but in all reality, there isn't.
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
you have to give him everything and trust him with everything, putting faith in him. i mean i know it sounds so dumb to have faith in something that you really have no proof of, but that is the point of faith, believing without seeing.
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
i mean shouldn't be, internally tortured witht he fear of what is going to happen to them, i totally agree with that. but the thing is, that is a part of having a relationship with God.
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
wow. you build a really strong arguement, and there are many points that i totally agree with, such as, someone should be
sweetkaytee8792 4 years ago
I called to god and gave him two days to appear to me, He did not appear to me, so is still don't believe in him.
dannylc94 4 years ago
ALL YOU ATHEIST CALL OUT GOD AND GIVE HIM A TIME LIMIT!! IF HE DOESN'T APPEAR TO YOU WITHIN, THEN DON'T BELIEVE!! BUT I ASSURE YOU HE WILL!!! YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE BLASPHEMED MARK 3:29 SAYS "DANGER" of ETERNAL DAMNATION not THE TOTAL!!! ALSO ONLY TRUE BELIEVERS WHO HAVE SEEN JESUS CAN COMMIT THIS SIN! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. YOU HAVE CHANCE UNTIL YOU DIE!!!
genoark 4 years ago
How do YOU know?
You're taking a stab into the DARK!
doctorh2005 4 years ago
The blasphemy of the spirit is not a one time act,but an ongoing rejection of the spirit of truth which testifies of Jesus through a life time.Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,but no man can come unto the father except through him.
1qm2z3 4 years ago
Even people who sound very intelligent have the right to go to Hell. We are given free will. Whosoever shall call upon the Lord will be saved. Do with it what you feel you need to do. You go boy!!! God Loves you regardless.
cybpmp2 4 years ago
And those who passed by blaspemed Him,wagging their heads saying,Aha!You who destory the temple and build it in 3 days,save Yourself,and come down from the cross!Likewise the chief preist also,togther with the scibes,and mocked and said among themselves,He saved others,Himself He cannot save.
1qm2z3 4 years ago
Jesus did and does exist. If He did not exist then I would not be here right now nor would I have any hope.
PraisetheLamb 4 years ago
I hear what your saying, but still, I wouldn't risk it all knowing that saying that might get you into hell... and I know in my heart that it WILL get you into hell.
TheWakkyTank 4 years ago
Well I do understand your argument and will admit that it does take faith to belief in God who has no maker. I do believe that God has always been, and was not created.
justingreen321 4 years ago
On what grounds?
BHTinthetank 4 years ago
Buildings have builders. Paintings have painters. Cars have makers. A logical person will see that Creation has a creator. I am sorry to those who have been hurt by Christians or churches and I would love to talk to you. Feel free to add me on google talk.
justingreen321 4 years ago
logical fallacy because you have to break that rule if you just say that god had no maker.
bdmjintx 4 years ago
Uh... yeah, I don't believe in any of that.
moorezw 4 years ago
Which "fake god" would that be?
moorezw 4 years ago
one question to you..
you know in 100% there is no god? (and vice versa )
think about it, no body know it 100%
you can't to revoke it.
be blessed
yossi.
11yossi11 4 years ago
Nobody can know 100%, but we can have a pretty strong case against something, just like the concept of god.
moorezw 4 years ago
I am praying that you will realize the Truth. Oh, and you might have to wait a while. Maybe my prayers won't be answered the way I want them to be answered. But they will be answered even if I don't see it. I guess we'll all find out what happens when we die. Do you believe in death?
brs9008 4 years ago
Believe in it? Man, I've seen it!
But I wonder what the point of prayer is if there's no guarantee that they'll be answered. Seems like if the Christian god is going to show me the "Truth," he can decide to do so without any encouragement from you. But if you feel that you need to volunteer an empty gesture to feel better about my apostasy, go for it.
moorezw 4 years ago
don't worry... I'm praying for you. "The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective." -James 5:16
brs9008 4 years ago
Praying for what, exactly? Whatever it is, set your watches now, and we'll see if anything happens. I'm always interesting in testing the efficacy of prayer.
moorezw 4 years ago
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Religion and science = brainwashing. If you want to know the *real* truth, then go here: Truthism (.com)
TheAaronFactorX 4 years ago
Ah, the truthism spam again, this guy is posting this crap everywhere.
I'll spoil it for you: it's a dumb site that supposes that aliens called the Reptilians actually control us humans.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
At least you correctly interpreted the scripture. But, you said you weren't afraid to ask questions - and this is freedom. In your video, you stated, "...the Holy Spirit cannot be seen....'" Then you conclude firmly at the end there is no Holy Spirit. This is a severe error of logic. You have only scratched the surface of the epistemological question in your video.
issuser 4 years ago
issuser, you have only scratched at the surface of his video. He doesn't believe it for quite a number of reasons more than just because he can't see the H.S. This video was topic related only to the subject matter of the B.C. video.
But nice try at using the epistemological word anyway.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Electro, please explain to me in the above post where I stated that not seeing the H.S. is the only reason he doesn't believe in God. You have obviously missed the point I was making regarding the logic path to his video's conclusion. If you even came close to understanding what I was infering, it would suprise me greatly.
issuser 4 years ago
Well, this is from your post and it's the only part you metioned, issuser:
"you stated, "...the Holy Spirit cannot be seen....'" Then you conclude firmly at the end there is no Holy Spirit. This is a severe error of logic."
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Uh...right here (can't you read your own posts, issuer?):
issuer said: "you stated, "...the Holy Spirit cannot be seen....'" Then you conclude firmly at the end there is no Holy Spirit. This is a severe error of logic.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Google Video titled "To Hell and Back"
Only TRUE athiest should watch it.
z75663 4 years ago
Why, z75663?
BTW, this spam you are posting everywhere has the same grammar error in it every time you post it.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Im not trying to prove a point to win an arguement. If God exsists, he must have made himself known right? Experience is never at the mercy of an arguement.One has to humble himself and understand that he needs God. If you want proof,start here on your spiritual journey(wikipedia jabal al lawz),and then move out of an "Egyptian state of mind" like the Israelites did to find the ONE TRUE GOD. It's then that you will understand the biblical progression. My hope for you is eternal life with Jesus.
hdfhjasdofibafa 4 years ago
So, he must have made himself known but you really have to make yourself believe it?
Do you realize that you contradicted yourself?
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Hey, denying the holy spirit is not a "do and die" kind of deal. What Jesus meant by this is that without the holy spirit we can't communicate with God, and without communication with God, we can't ask for forgiveness. However, we can never permanently kick the holy spirit out of our lives. If we truly repent we can always receive him again. Look to him and he'll be there with open arms, waiting to lovingly welcome you into heaven.
Jociek7 4 years ago
That's your interpretation, but why should I believe you? The text seems plain enough to me. Besides, the meaning itself is irrelevant- the whole point of the Challenge is that I'm not afraid to question God's existence.
moorezw 4 years ago
It not a bad thing to be open about your beliefs. I'm not condemming anyone- in fact, as a Christian, I don't believe in an ETERNALLY burning hell. I think that my interpretation is correct because it just would not make sense for God to put a rule there that makes it impossible to be saved. I mean, losing just one of us is such pain to God. He loves you.
Jociek7 4 years ago
If it's really so painful to God, then he could give me whatever I needed to change my mind, right? I guess God just likes pain.
moorezw 4 years ago
God is not your magic wishing well. He knows what is best for you. No, he won't just forcibly "change your mind". Those who find God are those who search, and those who search are those who desire a relationship with him. If he forcibly made himself known to you, you would serve him out of fear, rather than love, and he does not want that. God hates to see you suffer, he loves you, he will save you from all this.
Jociek7 4 years ago
It is normal to struggle with the question God's existence, but blaspheming the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with questioning God's existence. It may very well be something that you will later regret.
LenGarc 4 years ago
Im not a Bible scholar , But I do beleive in Jesus as My Saviour. Who else better to follow? Than any of these other people, or the Man that made this video you watched. That I have not seen yet! But I will not Ever give up my soul to such a stupid thing to me? All I can say is satan has you by the balls right now! And you can question everything all you want right now! But you will be begging for eternity later. And I will prey for all of you! David Reid
JesusLivesInAllOfUs 4 years ago
so wat JesusLivesInAllOfUs is saying is that satan is the one who makes people question things and people who think about the othersides of issues go to hell.
floody20 4 years ago
No thats not exactly what im saying here. To think of other sides of issues is fine! But to Sit up here as I have just seen with another person to have god, Chop of my arm, Poke me in the stomach etc... Then act upon them in a video like that! That is not Ratioal thought. Or just to say? attack one god with the bible, when you are supose to not belive in any gods what so ever. Thats not Rational thinking. want more talk to me direct floody20, I am ready to talk rational.
DreidMusicalX 4 years ago
And yes this is me as well, But I did not want to bring my music into these questions at hand. But this was the first night I ever heard of this thing, And I was sick at my stomach. So I chose that user name quickly. I also had questioned this matter my whole life! Doubts, I think everyone has about many things. And to question them is ok. To act upon them in such matters like the girl I seen. That, I do not think is rational thinking? Think about it?
DreidMusicalX 4 years ago
Jesus died for our sins, And I think he would even forgive this if you asked truly. That is my belief. But I am trying not to bring religion into this matter as much as I possibly can. But Thats hard to do because of the matter at hand.
DreidMusicalX 4 years ago
You fools! Don't you all realise that there is a deadline for when 'they' are supposed to show up here? Rael is no spring chicken you know. Which means he will probably be dead by the time that date arrives. At which point you will all realise that you've been taken for a ride. HAHAHA
dynamoe88 4 years ago
very well put, christians yell that we take tings out of context but if you truly look at the contexts of some of the passages of the bible they yield a similar meaning that invoke the same ends.
floody20 4 years ago
The sweetest fruit you've ever tasted. It's too bad you missed out on the Garden of Eden. There was this apple, from the tree of knowledge. I never tried it, but I hear it was AWESOME. And the consumption of it led to the whole human condition thing, but what are you gonna do?
circushead 4 years ago
I heard that it was just "good to eat," not awesome.
moorezw 4 years ago
I have NEVER met a true atheist. All people that claim to be atheist clearly have some sort of bitterness toward God when they start talking about it. You never see just a calm and collective atheist. Its disagreement, not disbelief. Think about it. When there is something I truly don't believe in, I don't even pay attention to it. Most "atheists" want to start angry debates, create controversy (IE: the blasphemy challenge), and question God.
jasonwisdom26 4 years ago
Nice to meet you! :)
You have a good point- we wouldn't normally talk about those things in which we don't believe. However, if 80% of the adult population truly believed in Santa Claus, prayed to him everyday, and insisted that one couldn't be a moral person without believing that they would be rewarded with presents at Christmastime, I think I'd also post an entry to a "Santa Challenge" kind of event.
moorezw 4 years ago
Jason: I was an atheist first, and opposed religion second; it didn't happen the other way around. Atheists are very peaceful Humanists, but if you want to know why we all vehemently oppose religion, well that's because we see it for what it is - a divisive means of controlling people.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful". - Seneca
Religion is a tool that limits free will, and it is therefore a threat to the human community.
TrenchantAtheist 4 years ago
Sup I am a Christian and I would like to hear more of what you think about religion. If you have a myspace then find me at /manuel_7777(It wont let me put a wabsite so just add myspace in front of that for my URL). I am here to listen and talk. Its your choice!!! Thanks to your free will that God has given us, which is why you made this video. So look me up!!! Hope to hear from you!!!
jcfreak101 4 years ago
If you'd like to hear more about what I think of religion, then check out my blog by Googling "Goosing the Antithesis."
moorezw 4 years ago
oh i'm sorry i didn't clarify (no sarcasm intended) what i meant was that if you don't belive in either was that you can't REALLY be attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to Satan, and therefore not commiting blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. i understand the point of saying it is just to make a statement, i'm just pointing out that its not actually blasphemy. nor am i arguing with you, because really a debate on youtube will not change either of our beliefs i do not think.
infinitysedge 4 years ago
Hmm... well, that's a strange way to define "blasphemy." I've usually seen it defined as pertaining to "saying" or "doing" something, and never with the requirement of orthodoxy to fulfill it. But again, whether it actually IS blasphemy or not is beside the point- the whole point of this exercise is to show that if it were blasphemy, and I was in danger of hellfire because of it, I'm not afraid to take that chance because I don't see any reason to believe it.
moorezw 4 years ago
lmao nice until the end. Jesus was a real person regardless of divinity, and why would you attribute the work of something you don't believe in to the doing of something else you don't believe in? thats like me saying the easter bunny does the work for santa.
infinitysedge 4 years ago
You mean, why would I say that "The Holy Spirit is really Satan?" Because that's more in keeping with the actual context of the passage, if you listen to my explanation again. Whether I believe in either is beside the point, which is to publicly engage in an activity which is threatened with everlasting torture by the Bible. The fact that I'm willing to risk everlasting damnation is by way of saying that I'm not afraid of being wrong.
moorezw 4 years ago
I'm surprised to hear about this fear of "coming out"..this fear that amreican posters often refer to. Here in Oz, 'coming out' is practically the rule rather than the exception.
callmepsycho 4 years ago
I have noticed there are mostly whites {a few asians, a jew or two}, but no blacks or hispanics. What does that say? Whites want to be their own god. That is what is at the heart of all atheist, they have fallen for the original lie from the garden of Eden "Ye shall be as God, knowing good & evil". The atheist wants to portray themself as a superior intellectual. Instead, they are just suckers, falling for that same old lie again.
papawx3 4 years ago
Wow, I can't believe you brought race into a theology discussion. :|
Perhaps it's because most youtubers are white :S
001109 4 years ago
Are willing to question the joy of questioning? If you question everything, does it leave you with anything but a pile of pieces?
11111110 4 years ago
You really "appeared" intelligent until you said, "Jesus didn't exist." You don't have to believe that he was the Son of God but historically, he was a real person who really did exist.
Romans 1:18-32
bornagain001 4 years ago
Well said my friend. The most painful thing to observe is a closed mind.
Fowlet 4 years ago
Yes, the sweetest Fruit indeed. The Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Never be afraid to question, then reach out for the answers...no gods will smack your hand away.
sumguijim 4 years ago
Dr. Zach, you seemed articulate, learned, and intelligent from your videos! God allows His human creation to have complete freedom and you truly do have the freedom to do what you want or say, I just hope that you will choose otherwise one day! And although I sincerely disagree with you, you have been blessed with your life and I thank God for your amicable character.
primetime100 4 years ago
It's nice to hear such an intelligent and rational view here on youtube. Not everyone takes the time to use their head; keep it up.
madeleinekay 4 years ago
If he has the "freedom to question anything", then he should question himself sincerely and ask, "what if there is a God?" no matter how "irrational" it seems.
Because if God IS real, and is the ultimate creator/designer as believed by millions, then who's irrational now? Jeremiah 29:13
toose70 4 years ago
Don't you think its pretty evident from video he has?
tskaface 4 years ago
I was never afraid of declaring my disbelief in the concept of god to anyone. I do however, find it heartening to discover that there are people out there who are capable of rational thought. I eagerly join their chorus and embrace them as long lost brethren.
airste172 4 years ago
the Bible talks about men who think they're smarter than God, and how he smites them down to show the world how wrong they are.. take heed
heavyhandofgod 4 years ago
Read the book of job, nice example of smiting.
tskaface 4 years ago
love
hope
and faith!!!!
indyarcherjrjr 4 years ago
Jesus lives! For those who don't believe me, I suggest you visit Puerto Rico. There you will find him.
BeatBuddy 4 years ago
If you have ever tasted the fruit of God and the fruit of his blessings then you would reconsider your last statement. Only a fool Denys Gods existence. If you do not know everything you cannot deny in Christ or of God or the Holy Spirt. We are just mere flesh, how can we judge what is good and what is not? We are young and naive.
tomomoto 4 years ago
Actually tomomoto, only fools...and deceivers...claim the existence of "god" (all powerful creator) without a shread of proof to back it up.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
ELECTROGOD
It's interesting, you say, "not a shred of proof to back it up." It makes me wonder what type of proof you'd accept. After all, this is not a scientific question, but a philosophical question. Tell me what you think.
thwonk121 4 years ago
The real kind, thwonk121, shouldn't be to hard for an all-powerful creator of everything.
Or if you like here is some philosophical proof against the existence of god:
youtube(dot)com(slash)watch?v=tTFlGj83wL8
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
ELECTROGOD
I looked at that link and it was interesting, but none of it was new or original with charliegee1111111111 himself, however. He slipped in a few presuppositions and logical inconsistencies along the way, but I could see he put some good thought into it.
As far as the poof issue goes, would you accept historical and eye-witness evidence, like we all accept in a court of law?
thwonk121 4 years ago
Why do Christians often argue that it needs to be new and interesting when they haven't even begun to answer those problems in their assertions?
I wouldn't accept unverified eyewitness testimony from a person about something that doesn't exist.
Do you accept the testimony of a mentally ill person who sees monsters when off of their medication as proof of those monsters? How about a drug addict? How about believers in other gods?
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
ELECTROGOD,
Ok, well I think we can both agree that the credibility of a witness has quite a bit to do with whether or not their testimony should be taken into consideration. So I assume that you would accept evidence the same way a court of law would in the US? You would take the testimony of a witness, and evaluate it. -cont.
thwonk121 4 years ago
Not necessairly. I am not a court of law but you will find that a court of law would not be able to favorably go along with your baseless god claims due the the criteria they have to consider.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
I think we can also both agree that a judge or jury should evaluate the evidence and not throw it out just because the claims seem out of the ordinary or go against the listener's pre-conceived religious/metaphysical notions. Or do you think I'm out of line?
thwonk121 4 years ago
Yes, and we have evaluated your lack of evidence for your claimed god and can call it imaginary.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
ELECTROGOD So are you saying you would have a higher burden of proof for the evidence you would accept than a court of justice in the US? If so, why would you be afraid of evidence of that sort.
thwonk121 4 years ago
But what you present for your baseless assertions of god is not actually what is recognized as valid evidence, thwonk.
When what you do present is examined it is seen to be full of errors and nonsense (it's what we've detailing all along).
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
It's interesting, since we are just tossing back and forth generalities. What about specific evidence claims? Would you like to look at empirical evidence for God's existence or perhaps for the resurrection of Jesus?
thwonk121 4 years ago
Sure thwonk, let's see this empirical evidence of the resurrection of Jesus (ought to be easier than "god's" existence).
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
ELECTROGOD,
When it comes to a historical investigation, it is important to come to the evidence with an open mind and not make up your decisions ahead of time. It is much like a police detective. He needs to move where the evidence leads regardless of the implications. In looking at forensic or historical evidence, you can never have 100% certainty, but make your decision based upon the preponderance of the evidence.
thwonk121 4 years ago
[cont.] It is a reasonable expectation, because we convict people in the US judicial system this way every day. With the resurrection, I am making the claim, therefore I bear the burden of proof for that claim. If you come up with a counter claim, you would have the same burden for your own. So let's not have any, "Aliens stole the body," stuff unless you have some 1st century evidence that supports the claim.
Are those all fair enough?
thwonk121 4 years ago
Sorry but the legal system is a bad example to use for verifying your god claims.
Aliens? LOL! There never was a body...it's all a myth. Don't know why? Watch the DVD and learn (why is that so hard for Christians?).
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Uh, how have I not done that? Christians seem to come to it with extremely closed minds...minds already made up that it MUST be true. They would have to because it sure isn't verifiable historically.
Actually, history investigation isn't really about having an open mind, it's about meeting certain criteria.
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
ELECTROGOD
I guess you're talking about "The God That Wasn't There?" Are you suggesting that Brian Flemming had anything but straw-men arguments in his homemade DVD? If so, please give your top 5 books on either side of this argument.
By the way, when you are talking about a claimed historical event, such as the resurrection of Jesus, historical and forensic investigation will work just fine. Why would you be afraid of such a thing? I mean I'm the super naturalist here.
thwonk121 4 years ago
Your obvious fear of watching anything that could give you good and verifiable information is entertaining yet disappointing, thwonk.
Homemade? Is it? So what if it was? It's not action movie.
Uh, provide historical and forensic evidence of the resurrection then...please (so far you've avoided requests for claimed evidence).
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
Oh, you think I didn't watch "The God That Wasn't There"? I did watch it because I've studied those topics in the undergraduate and graduate level and hoped he'd come up with some good arguments, or something I hadn't heard before. Instead all I heard were a series of straw-man arguments explained by his "experts." Have you ever heard, "Don't ask an encyclopedia salesman if you need an encyclopedia?" Well, don't ask a "folkloreist" if something really old is "folklore."
thwonk121 4 years ago
[cont.] He completely ignored all of the historical evidence for Jesus, secular and Christian. For instance, Jesus was mentioned as a historical figure by sources written within 150 years of His death, like The Jewish Talmud, Josephus, Pliny, Tacitus, and others. You will have to work pretty hard to find scholars who argue the thesis that Jesus never lived. Even most "liberals" dismiss these views as baseless. It has been refuted time and time again.
thwonk121 4 years ago
[cont.] Why? Because there are first century references to Jesus, several of which critical scholars date to within months to a couple of years after Jesus' death. I'm speaking here chiefly of the early creeds in the New Testament, like 1 Corinthians 15:3ff. Besides all of the New Testament writings, we have a few extra-biblical writings that date from the mid-first century to about 110 AD. Altogether, there are even about a dozen and a half non-Christian sources that mention
thwonk121 4 years ago
[cont.] Jesus within the first 150 years after his death. To give you an idea, Julius Caesar only has a half dozen such references. A good book to find an exhaustive list of those sources is Gary Habermass' book, "The Historical Jesus" (College Press, 1996). Also you can see Lee Strobel's new book, "The Case for the Real Jesus" which came out just last month. I say all this so we can put away the ludicrous claim that Jesus didn't exist and assume he did for this discussion. Fair enough?
thwonk121 4 years ago
Strobel is a hack, see why:
infidels(dot)org(slash)library(slash)modern(slash)jeff_lowder(slash)strobel(dot)html
infidels(dot)org(slash)library(slash)modern(slash)paul_doland(slash)strobel(dot)html
infidels(dot)org(slash)library(slash)modern(slash)paul_doland(slash)creator(dot)html
infidels(dot)org(slash)library(slash)modern(slash)jeff_lowder(slash)strobel2(dot)html
ELECTROGOD 4 years ago
I'm trying to imagine this alternate universe. Brian Flemming is a valid, well-respected documentary filmmaker, but Lee Strobel is a hack. One's claim to fame is having gone to a private Christian school run by an inarticulate principal and the other has been trained as a lawyer and worked as a journalist for the Chicago Tribune and then wrote half a dozen best-sellers.
But seriously, whatever you do, don't read one of those books. They have proven quite influential in our society [cont.]
thwonk121 4 years ago
[cont.] and have led many an atheist to belief in God and later to trust in Jesus. Why else do you find him attacked on atheist web sites so much? After all, Strobel is just a back-slidden atheist himself.
You may not be ready to look at the historical evidence for Jesus' resurrection just yet. Establishing He existed is more like crawling before you can walk. Since you like to trade web sites so much, check out Gary Habermas (.) com without any spaces.
thwonk121 4 years ago