Watch most of the best throwers in the world. They all plant left of their CoM... they vary by thrower but it takes a lot of the pressure off of the knee with all of the torque involved in their plants.
The width and length of the delivery stride are critical. The width needs when the plant lands both feet are slightly outside the shoulders permitting the right hip to go forward for maximum hip shoulder separation and maximum throwing length and pull.
The delivery stride needs to be long enough so all pressure is on the plant so the right can drag forward wih minimum resistance allowing the throwing shoulder to pull well forward so the srm strike follows the javelin's release angle.
You can't first use your body to create an power that goes up to your arm and then try to give the javelin a little extra push with your arm. If you do that the power that you have already created from the body will just dissapear, because the arm can't create the same power as your body can. So that he uses a lot of arm is just bullcrap. He would probably just have thrown about 70-75 metres if he had thrown that way.
@EnJoker1 well the arm can just accelerate power that body built up, cause it can move at a fairly higher speed than the body does, correct me if i'm wrong
Well the injuries didn't occure becuase of that he threw with a lot of arm. Javelin throwers are always having trouble with their elbow or shoulder. As i said... the power doesn't come from the arm.. the body is throwing the javelin
i have to agree with you on his technique, he did have his share of injuries didn't he but i believe the more rotational you are the more prone you are to injury my 2 cents , Bob Sing started as rotational ended up throwing linearbecause of injuries
Zelezny does not (did not) routinely plant in this "bucket" manner. This throw is a warmup at slow speed and the plant is too far left for an optimal throw. A review of his full approach great throws reveals better alignment and a quicker plant. Be careful which throw you seek to emulate.
this is a freaking warmup throw morons
EnJoker1 1 year ago
0:25 arrow up arse!!!
ciang77 2 years ago
thats how they all throw now, watch pitkamaki throw
GsG1123 2 years ago
Watch most of the best throwers in the world. They all plant left of their CoM... they vary by thrower but it takes a lot of the pressure off of the knee with all of the torque involved in their plants.
steveoo6o 3 years ago
The width and length of the delivery stride are critical. The width needs when the plant lands both feet are slightly outside the shoulders permitting the right hip to go forward for maximum hip shoulder separation and maximum throwing length and pull.
The delivery stride needs to be long enough so all pressure is on the plant so the right can drag forward wih minimum resistance allowing the throwing shoulder to pull well forward so the srm strike follows the javelin's release angle.
sidkiwitt 3 years ago
also note that zelezny had multiple injuries and surgeries he threw with a lot of arm but hey he was best.
desembodic 3 years ago
@desembodic
threw with a lot of arm?
You can't first use your body to create an power that goes up to your arm and then try to give the javelin a little extra push with your arm. If you do that the power that you have already created from the body will just dissapear, because the arm can't create the same power as your body can. So that he uses a lot of arm is just bullcrap. He would probably just have thrown about 70-75 metres if he had thrown that way.
EnJoker1 1 year ago 2
@EnJoker1 well the arm can just accelerate power that body built up, cause it can move at a fairly higher speed than the body does, correct me if i'm wrong
andrew9592 9 months ago
@andrew9592
Well the injuries didn't occure becuase of that he threw with a lot of arm. Javelin throwers are always having trouble with their elbow or shoulder. As i said... the power doesn't come from the arm.. the body is throwing the javelin
EnJoker1 9 months ago
Yup, I never liked Zelezny's technique in the first place. A golden opportunity to blow your elbow out. However, he usually plants faster than this.
Edvinold 3 years ago
i have to agree with you on his technique, he did have his share of injuries didn't he but i believe the more rotational you are the more prone you are to injury my 2 cents , Bob Sing started as rotational ended up throwing linearbecause of injuries
bobmsr 3 years ago
Zelezny does not (did not) routinely plant in this "bucket" manner. This throw is a warmup at slow speed and the plant is too far left for an optimal throw. A review of his full approach great throws reveals better alignment and a quicker plant. Be careful which throw you seek to emulate.
Martyspeardoc 3 years ago 2
Having viewed all avauable shots of JZ I hae yet to find one where his plant hasnt moved to the left as is in this shot.
sidkiwitt 3 years ago
thank you
philosof3r 4 years ago