true true true true mann true i really could understand the language tell me one greek who can understand this and i wont call epirus again albanian but sorry it is albanian mofuckas epirotes is albanian get rid off this shit fukking greeks even europe is letting u die now with (financial lies) europe wont handle you thats why they are letting u down same like you lied with finances to europe you lied with history greek your whole state will be destroyed you will destroy yourself fuking greeks
"The term barbarian in varius occasions,the term was also used by Greeks,especially the Athenians to derive other Greek tribes and states(such as Epirotes,Elean,Macedonians and Aeolic-speakers in pejorative and politically motivated manner."
Greek-english lexicon,Liddell and Scott,Perseas Project,Taft Univ,USA
"The deluge in the time of Deucalion,forinstance,took place chietty in the Greek world and in it especially about ancient Hellas,the country about Dodona and the Achelous a river which has often changed its course.Here the Selloi and those who were formelly called Greaci and now Hellenes."
You also failed to mention Polybius including Epirotes, with all the other Greeks, Aristotle calling Dodona Ancient Hellas, and that Herodotus mentions on several occasions that Alcon the Molossian was Greek, and that the Thessalians originally were from Thesprotia aka Epirus. Are the Thessalians Albanian or Illyrians too! LOL!
at 2:25 in you mention the word Aspetos in the language of the Epirotes. PLEASE PLEASE check an etymological dictionary or an ancient Greek dictionary and see what Aspetos means and where it originates. Or just google Alexander the Great: a reader By Ian Worthington on page 22. Yes he quotes Oxford. So your lame
This is absolutely sick how all invaders around autochthon Greeks steal Greek history, culture, name of their tribes = Makedon, Epiro .... fuck their language ... even denying that any Greeks lived and live !!!!!!!!!
Pure Greek tribe Epiro " are " turkoalbanian gypsies !!!! ????
Pure Greek tribe Makedon " are " Scytho-Venetian Slavs !!! ???
Pure Anatolian Little Asian Greeks " are " Turkotatarian gypsies !!! ???
Maybe Nigerians will claim in future that Spartans are Nigerians !!!
IN * PE * RA * TO * RE * BT *, Jhezus Nazarenus * Principi Emathie * Regi Albaniae * Terrori Osmanorum * Regi Epirotarum * Benedictat Te (Jesus Nazarene Blesses Thee [Skanderbeg], Prince of Mat, King of Albania, Terror of the Ottomans, King of Epirus).
EPIRI ESHTE NJE DHE JU BYTH QIRA GREQIE E KENI PUSHTUAR JUGUN E EPIRIT NE 1913,POR NUK DO VONOJE DITA QE DO TU ZBYTHIM NGA JUGU I EPIRIT.EPIRI=SHQIPERIIIIIIII MORE GREK BYTHQI
stin ousia exw polla na pw alla den einai efikto opws px oti i ipeiros den einai oute elliniki oute alvaniki afou anekathen zousan kai oi dyo laoi armonika, ti to palevoume loipon kai tsakwnomaste?sto katw katw ama anatreksoume pio palia den ypirxan kan synora, einai dynaton na milame gia alvanous kai ellines?eimai prothymos na sizitisw me opoiondipote morfwmeno kai dianoumeno ellina,na antallaksoume apopseis.paidia an den kanoumne emeis kati tha fame ta moutra mas, einai xazo ayto pou symvainei
ta koina pou exoun oi ellines me tous alvanous den ta exoun me kanean lao twn valkaniwn giayto einai lathos na einai yper twn slavwn opws px twn servwn. symmaxia kai adelfopoiisi me tous alvanous lynei polla provlimata sta valkania ena apo ta opoia einai oi skopianoi oi opoiioi stin ousia einai slavoi kai den exoun kamia sxesi me tin arxaiotita,milane kathara voulgarika. ta lew ayta giati pragamtika exw diavasei polla kai exw spoudasei kai elliniki filologia oso kai na akougetai parakseno....
kai na ginoume dynatoi. vgazoume ta apothimena mas. kai oi dyo plevres exoun kanei lathi. to kalo einai ta afisoume ola pisw kai na exoume allilosevasmo gia tis glwsses kai tous politismous mas. oi ellines kai oi alvanoi proipirxan sta valkania kai einaI apo tous araxaioterous laous. oi alloi laoi(voulgaroi,skopianoi,servoi) irthan ton ogdoo aiwna. alvanikes lekseis kai anafora stous alvanous iparxoun sta erga twn arxaiwn syggrafewn,alvanoi episis sineisferan stin apeleytherwsi tis elladas...
ena pragama lew egw, epeidi to misos den exei telos mipws telika einai megali agapi? ki egw exw logomaxisei me ellines edw sto youtube alla to kanw epeidi mas exoun sourei polla, alvanos eimai kai poli morfwmenos kai tha elega oti kserw kati parapanw. nomizw oti edw grafoun mono fasistes ellines oi pragamtika dianoumenoi kseroun tin alitheia. oi alvanoi kai oi ellines siniparxoun apo tin araxaiotita kai dinoun kai pernoun o enas apo ton allon. anti na kanoume mia symmaxia...
Since you refer to Achilles,read the Homer's Iliad and you will see that he was GREEK prince of Thessaly and he fought with the rest of Greeks against Troyans!!
And your opinion about Aristotelis is your bigger joke on this video!
Nobody in the world quote something like this!!
You must to send this video to the Bigger joke's contest and you will win,i'm sure for that!
Albanians,if you want to becam part of civilized Europe,leave these nonsence now!!
"Pyrrus was a GREEK general of the Hellenistic era.He was the king of the GREEK tribe of Molossians,of the royal Aaecid house and later he became king of Epirus and Macedon"
(Pyrrus by Plutarch
Wikipedia encyclopedia
Britanica encyclopedia
Jones Archer and Eugene Borza have the same opinion!
"Pyrrus was the son of Greek king of Molossia,Aaecid and Pythia,a GREEK women from Thessaly"
(Pyrrus by Plutarch)
As you can see,Plutarch write clearly about the greek origin of Pyrrus!!
"Epirus is a greek name and it signifies "mainland" or "continent".Epirus was settled by GREEKS early in the first millenium but remained a frontier area contested with the Illyrians peoples of the Adriatic coast"(Wikipedia-Britanica encyclopedia)
If Epirotans were not Greeks whyb their name derived from the greek language?
you say that you did not bend to the turks, there is no connection betwen the old Greeks and you. The athens during the otoman empire was inhabited by turks and their slaves including some albanians and greeks. whetever is in your blood tobay may be but not greek, what i do not like is that there you want it or not there is some albanian blod as well, in the form of arvanites that now say have Gayreek concence. Is like to say I am and lion with a rat concenece.
is not youre blame as your gay preist is makin the histery/history of grece however tthey want and you are the ignorants that beleive all they say.
Grece still is full of albanians young and old, some call themseve arvanites and some are the newcomers the alvani, you should be proud of them as africans are coming there lately and they look more like native greeks.
If there is a bigger lie in this planet it is your histery,i mean history-that is what you are,a lie.
listen....i'm albanian and i'm proud to be one....but all this is bullshit......
ajo me gjuhen njehere qe flitej ne epirin e vjeter dhe qe ngjante me shqipen ishte kot fare dhe e sajuar....ja ke fut pordhes kot...eshte komplet e sajuar sidomos ajo pjese e videos.....
nqs ti dhe shume te tjere me te vertete doni qe shqiperia te perparoj lerini fantazirat dhe competition dhe shikoni realitetin...shikoni ate qe shqiperia eshte tani....
Yes it isn't a secret to any historian of the planet or to any person who knows the very basics of european history, but i am afraid very few of your compatriots would accept the facts as they are.
whats this another Albanian Hodxa version of history...
Listen dumbanian dont spread your filth to the rest of the world, no wonder why hodxa kept you guys land locked and fed you people potatoes and propaganda up the ass so far you couldnt even see!! well dont you think its time to wake the fuck up dumbania?
alvanoi pros to parwn koitakste na vgalete kanena psixoulo apo tis douleies pou sas dinoume kai meta miliste gia politismo....xaxaxax....DOULOI.......
Epirotes and Macedonians both talk about military triumphs against Illyrian tribes.. they clearly distinguish them as outsiders, plus it's nice that you like to give examples of how the modern day Albanian language has Latin/ Greco and Slavic roots.. ands that because you were always under another empire, Roman Byzantine and slavic invasions...
you people have nothing to do with Greece and as for your claims of Illyrian decent... I don't know what the fuck you inbreds are talking about..
Just watch what the ancient historians and geografers wrote ...greeks don't exsist anymore.there are only some mix turkopontianoslavovlachoarvanites in today Greece.
ok dick head.... and your decendants of the Illyrians... whatever dude, you people are such a sad race of people...
Greeks aren't the ones who change there names and identities with every country they visit, or more than less get kicked out of.. all of europe hates you people why don't you just go back to your mother... TURKEY
greeks are the very same who emigratesd in germany, australia and allover europe and america and why is that becaouse you liked turism no mate cos you had no food to put on the table
the turks occupied your racist country for 400 years and fucked your ancestors and now you claim you are greek, YOU LITTLE TURKS ,
they did occupy us for 400 years, but guess what.. we didnt loose our identity, our religion nor our language.. as a matter of fact Greeks were the most flourishing peoples in the ottoman empire, as independent peoples, we didnt wanna join the ranks of the ottomans like the albanians did.you read? Ottomans stated, Albanians were the most backwards peoples and the Greeks the ones who flourished the most. ex. shipping, merchants/ trade. so bend over and take this double dick!!in your ass and mouth
Bend over and take the double dig in your ass and mouth ? I think those greek gay fantasies are now starting to work you like it double up you ass dont you faggot?
@Dykefalos for someone who comes from a country where more than half the population resemble pakistanis, where the so called "greek" nation consists of arvanites, slavs, ancient greeks, persians, arabs, turks and even african, a true multiracial cocktail of a nation. you cite us some gypsy gayreek historian blowing his own trumpet, lets talk reall credible sources gyppo! same invaders we had you embraced and collaborated wholeheartedly so slavs, turks and latin ran your hairy asses for centuries
Gjergj Kastrioti in a letter to the italian prince Xhovani-Antonio Orsini in 31.10.1460 said
".. ne jemi epirot, dhe, siç duhet ta dini, paraardhes tanët kanë kalur në kohë të ndryshme nëpër vendin që mbani ju sot dhe janë ndeshur me romakët ndër beteja të mëdha, dhe[aty, në kronikat] kemi gjetur se më të shumtën e herës janë ndarë më nder se me turp. "
just like kosovas time came, so will çamerias time... i hope arvanitasit wake up soon..
Epirus (Qamrija) was and is Albanian land that was stolen. We will never forget our qamrija and especially the massacres their dogs angetahn the Albanians did. in the near future, the area back under Albanian konkrolle, then you allah merciless.
alexander the great was speaking slavic and i am albanian.... you must be very clever and i must be very stupid since i could not realize all above so far.... and the rest of the world is stupid too... thanks for enlightening...
i am sure that after some years it will be prooved tha most of the italians are albanian too, and frankfurt belongs to skopjie, and beijing is turkish... good work... keep it moving..
alexander the great was speaking slavic and i am albanian.... you must be very clever and i must be very stupid since i could not realize all above so far.... and the rest of the world is stupid too... thanks for enlightening...
i am sure that after some years it will be prooved tha most of the italians are albanian too, and frankfurt belongs to skopjie, and beijing is turkish... good work... keep it moving..
Inscriptional evidence of the Chaones is lacking until the Hellinistic period; but Ps-Scylax, describing the situation of c. 380-360 put the Southern limit of the Illyrians just north of the Chaones, which indicates that the Chaones did not speak Illyrian, and the acceptance of the Chaones into the Epirote alliance in the 330s suggest strongly that they were Greek-speaking
The Cambridge Ancient History - The Expansion of the Greek World, Eighth to Sixth Centuries B.C.P Mack Crew Page 284
Certainly the Thracians and the Illyrians were non-Greek speakers, but in the northwest, the peoples of Molossis {Epirot province}, Orestis and Lynkestis spoke West Greek. It is also accepted that the Macedonians spoke a dialect of Greek and although they absorbed other groups into their territory, they were essentially Greeks.
Robert Morkot, The Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece,Penguin Publ., 1996
Hilding Thylander from [Swedish humanistic institution starts his book "The greek world" with a study on the pre-indoeuropean cultures of Greece. "Back in 1958, new excavations were made in Biotia, Elis (Fthiotida), Epirus, the Ionian Islands and Thessali. It's clear that those lands were inhabited by Hellinic tribes before 20 000 B.C".
The oldest archaelogical evidence that show the Greekness of the Epirotans was a Prehistoric vase as also and the tumulus consrtuction. Kantharos-shaped cup from grave 5 of tumulus A at Merope-Pogonion (district of Ioannina). Traces of black paint are preserved on the lower part of the body (h. 0,184 m.).Tumulus are built in the classical mucenean (as called) and found not only in Epirus but also and in Macedonia.
Both are dated to the end of the 11th or the beginning of the 10th century B.C.
"The deluge in the time of Deucalion, for instance, took place chiefly in the Greek world and in it especially about ancient Hellas, the country about Dodona and the Achelous, a river which has often changed its course. Here the Selli dwelt and those who were formerly called Graeci and now Hellenes."
Ancient writers make a very clear segregation between Illyrians and Epirotans.I begin with Strabo
... beginning at the recess of the Adriatic and extending as far as the Sacred Mouth of the Ister. In this country are Greece and the tribes of the Macedonians and of the Epeirotes, and all those tribes above them whose countries reach to the Ister and to the seas on either side, both the Adriatic and the Pontic � to the Adriatic, the Illyrian tribes, ...
As the falsification of ancient textes is a kind of propaganda the same is the habit to keep whatever u want from textes and to hide what ever u don't!All of your quotes have the same problem!And this is a very serious problem because these quotes followed by words or phrases which gives further infos which guide to a tottally different conclusion tfrom yours!We can examine them one by one tif u wish it!Sorry man but your own arguments proves that Illyrians and Epirutes were differents people
Από εδώ αρχίζει η Ελλάδα που φτάνει έως τον ποταμό Πηνειό και το Ομόλιο, πόλη των Μαγνήτων,που βρίσκεται στον ποταμό αυτό
My language is the continuity of the ancient Hellenic language and this give me the abilite to have the honor and pleasure to read ancient Hellenic textes in their ancient form!
And don't make speak about the wrong translation of the ancient texts!!!For example Skylax worte:
From here begins Greece which reaches to the river Pinios and Omolios,town which belongs to Magnites,located in this river.
Pinios is in the era of Thessaly!That means that it is south-east from Ambrakia
So where do u find the words "From there and down is Hellas no end"??The falsification of ancient texts is equal to propaganda!!!And if u want to see the real ancient text it following...
LOL...U r so addicted to prove that Epirutes were not Hellenes that u loose even your final target!Ok lets say that according to all these ancient sources Epirutes weren't Hellenes!But According to them Epirutes weren't not Illyrians too!Everywhere and according to everyone of them Illyrians was somethnig tottaly different from Epirutes!None of them said or wrote that Epirutes were an Illyrian tribe!!!So how do u connect,according to ancients authors,with Illyrians?There is no logic in this!!
Epirus, though mostly held by people of Grecian speech and lineage... Herodotus however, among earliest, and Plutarch, among late ancient historians, clearly reckon the Molossians a Grecian people. Some expressions of Thucydides and Strabo may perhaps be construed either way. But, as it has been formerly observed, Herodotus, Thucydides, and Strabo concur in showing that all Greece was of mixed population;
The history of Greece, by lord Redesdale By William Mitford
Whereas this did not happen with the Persians or the Egyptians, it did wit the Molossians (who were probably ethnically/linguistically Greek-see bellow). In other words what may have begun as poetic or erudite inventions caught on. For the Molossians, for example, Greek heroic origins ceased to be merely a matter for Greek-centered erudite Ethnography of the Other but were incorporated and adopted y that other.
The Return of Odysseus: Colonization and ethnicity by Irad Malkin
The Epirotes, who may fairly be considered as Greeks by blood, long maintained a rugged independence under native chiefs, who were little more than leaders in war.
A Manual of Greek Antiquities
Book by Percy Gardner, Frank Byron Jevons; Charles Scribners Sons, 1895, page 8
P.S. I can write all night long quotes from famous academics non Greeks that all of them said that Epirus and Epirotes were Greeks.
ask Pierre Cabanes(was Cabanes that said to us the non presence of any greek colonie in Buthrotum-Butrint) and most of the stone texts are in doric and not in Ionic with the life of the ancient people that was too different from the greeks!
Hellespont, who before that had been settlers with the Athenians, and of the natives of the various other towns which are really Pelasgian, though they have lost the name. If one must pronounce judging by these, the Pelasgians used to speak a Barbarian language. If therefore all the Pelasgian race was such as these, then the Attic race, being Pelasgian, at the same time changed and became Hellenic, unlearnt also its language.
Dorians wasn't Greeks mallakastrioti ? Wow what a theory! Pls amuse us (sorry i meant enlighten us) . What were they? Albanians perhaps? :)
You cant change history my friend neither the truth. :)
P.S. Forgive me my Albanian friends.I highly respect your people and your history as a ancient race at Balkans but with somethings the only you can do is to laugh.
Many Pelasgians gradually became Greeks. Greeks was not a specific race but a combination of races with common origin who came to greece and mixed with older populations like Pelasgians.
So you accept that the Pelasgians were not greeks...they became or were in part assimilated by greeks.The same that happend with vlachs,arvanites,and slavs?...because the "greek cause " is not an race,but many races under the same faith.
Common origin?...you are so contradictor,how can be an vlach equal with an pontian,or with the slav,or with an arvanites?...mix populatin in ancient time till today?...wow really intresting.
The Molossians were the strongest and, decisive for Macedonia, most easterly of the three most important Epeirot tribes... They were Greeks, spoke a similar dialect to that of Macedonia, suffered just as much from the depredations of the Illyrians and were in principle the natural partners of the Macedonian king who wished to tackle the Illyrian problem at its roots.
Malcolm Errington, A History of Macedonia, California University Press, 1990.
Theopompus knew fourteen Epirote tribes, speakers of a strong west-Greek dialect, of which the Chaones held the plain of Buthrotum, the Thesproti the plain of Acheron, and the Molossi the plain of Dodona, which forms the highland centre of Epirus with an outlet southwards to Ambracia.
Certainly the Thracians and the Illyrians were non-Greek speakers, but in the northwest, the peoples of Molossis {Epirot province}, Orestis and Lynkestis spoke West Greek. It is also accepted that the Macedonians spoke a dialect of Greek and although they absorbed other groups into their territory, they were essentially Greeks. Robert Morkot, The Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece,Penguin Publ., 1996
Speakers of these various Greek dialects settled different parts of Greece at different times during the Middle Bronze Age, with one group, the northwest Greeks, developing their own dialect and peopling central Epirus. This was the origin of the Molossian or Epirotic tribes.
E.N.Borza In the shadow of Olympus; The emergence of Macedon (revised edition, 1992), page 62
ne radhe te pare idioti i sateme se linden ato nenat tuaja disa si ty...e dyta deri afer Athines do cuar kufiri se ashtu ka qene...e treta cdo te thote grek?Cilet jane keta grek te sotem?
greqia e lashte fillonte nga gjiri i Ambrakise e poshte ore te keputur ne mes...po ju la kooperativa bujqesore cyryk nga mente ju ore...ngaterroni influencen e qyteterimit hellen me fiset qe jetonin ne ate kohe ne Epir(kontinent)
dhe dicka tjeter ore romio-arumun...qe ta dish ti ai emertim Epir-nuk do te thote asgje tjeter vetem term gjeografik-pra Kontinent.Nuk kemi nevoje ne te ndryshojme emertimet e krahinave tona sepse nuk ndjekim politike asimiluese si gerket dhe gerxhet e tu evgjito-megali ideiste!
pyet gerxhet pse hoqen emertimin e Camerise dhe e kthyen Thesproti...kur ne shumicen e hartave te shek 17-18 njihet si e tille?...pyet gerxhet pse emertimi Cameri vjen nga lumi i lashte Thyamis?....cne Camet quhen me emertimin e ketij lumi...ai qe sot quhet lumi i kalamait?(term grek antik do jete edhe ky-Lumi i Kalamait)...ikni ore te keputur ikni
Emri "Epir " eshte emertim me perfaqesues.Keni rrethet e Gjirokastres,Tepelenes,Permetit.Atehere pse nuk i perfshini keto rrethe tek qarku i Epirit te Veriut perderisa jeni te bindur qe Epiri ishte rajon shqiptar?
Dhe Saranda tradicionalisht ka qene bashke me Gjirokastren.Po ta shikosh dhe nga ana teknike sarandiotet do sherbeheshin me mire po te perfshiheshin tek qarku i Gjirokastres.
A ke ti ndonje shpjegim per kete ndarje admionistrative?
po pse ore ne kohen e turkut...sa krahina ke ti qe njehere ishin bashke...me vone beheshin me nje krahine tjeter...ato qe quheshin nahije...merr nahijen e Kurveleshit dhe hap syte te mesosh sa zona te tilla ka pasur ne ate kohe ne te
po ore meqenese ngelet me gisht ne goje ju me keto ngjarjet e fundit...oburra ore te bashkoni zonat e Shqiperise se Jugut sipas interesave voriopirdhiote...jepini se do beni kerdine te them...a u ftofshi ne mendere ju ore...as shqiptar edhe as grek!
E mohon qe Gjirokastra eshte kryeqendra e jugut te Shqiperise?
E mohon qe Saranda ishte mese normale te perfshihej ne qarkun e Gjirokastres qofte nga ana historike,qofte nga ana gjeografike,qofte nga ana teknike e sherbimit te qytetareve sarandiot?
ore emertimi Epir-Kontinent -keshtu eshte quajtur ne kohet e lashta ore-pse ore Roma qe ishte perandori-sot kryeqyteti i Italise...sot eshte ne provincen e Lazio...do quajne italianet-Italine Rome sipas mendimit tend ore tutkun?
o trapa nuk u hyne ne tru fare ore se fiset epirote ishin te huaja per boten e greqise se lashte...dhe nuk vetequheshin epirotas...por quheshin kaone,thesprote,molose etj...se ishin shume fise-disa here ne aleanca midis tyre dhe disa here ne lufte midis tyre...termi Epir ju vu nga historianet greke -lexo cthote Tukiditi
ju kam bere kaq here pyetje kush na qenkerkan keta hellenet e lasht ne Epir(si ty dhe mikut tend kapterr kallamboqit)...nuk me jeni pergjigjur.He pra kush jane pasardhesit e Epiroteve te lashte ne Epir?...traket apo Iliret?vllehet apo shqiptaret?...vetem mendohu mire para se te me pergjigjesh
listen to this dumb moron.. You people really make me laugh.. hhahaha. Your national hero is Greek re MALAKA! and you wave a Greek Byzantine Flag!! Yioryios Kastriotis!! Greeks and clever my friend, he mingled with the Albanians so Ali Pasha would leave him alone.. Alexanders Mother was Queen of Epirus!! Greek Speaking woman.. WTF!?! don't you people understand..?? You can't read books? I know your faces have been stuffed with Propoganda.. but now that your adults dont you realize?!
haha..funny video..u really believe that?the macedonians spoke greek and the illirians the same,albanians and slavs came a lot much later on our holy grounds,and now you want a part of greek history?you want to become greeks?come on dont hesitate we have open minds.dont try to steal our glorious history,become one with us.the turks dont want you.europe as well dont want.only iof you declare you are becoming greeks you have asolution to your problems...haha..albanian history...hahahaha...funny
re zwo malaka kastrioti kai na rtheite pisw paliozwa tha kanete tin elliniki afti gi san ta moutra sas.ftwxeia anergia kai mizeria.gia afto epistrofi tis alvanias stin mana-ellada!!!na fygoyn oi alvanoi sto irak apo kei poy irthan kai epitelous oi illirioi oi arxaioi ellines mas na anapaytoyn ta kokkalakia tous me ayta pou akoun ap tous tafous tous.akou ekei koloalvanoi san poli pirate aera.3 wres xreiazetai o stratos mas na parei oli tin skatoxwra sas,min mas bainetae,pisw stous kolotourkous!!!
mallakastrioti am from the Land of the (EPirus)and the land of Epirus is a Albanian land..the KING of the EPIRUS BARDHYLL the 2sd the son of the BARDHYLL the 1st..the KING OF ILLYRIA..
albo4ever777== shut up you moron.. keep reading your propoganda bullshit, your national hero is a Greek you murdered muslim Albanian Turks and now you wave his Greek flag and worship him AHaHahHah who..??.. A Greek Adarti.. dumb fucks.. WOOWW almost as bad as the Skpoje morons.. GREECE IS SURROUNDED BY MORONS!!!! IDIOTS!!! UNEDUCATED MONKEYS!!!
Hornblower, Simon. The Greek World, 479-323 B.C., 2002, ISBN 0415163269. "Even before about 385 the Molossian tribes had combined with the neighbouring Thesprotians and Chaonians to form a Molossian state with a king and officials called prostates (president), grammateus (secretary), and tribal representatives called demiourgoi also hieromnemones some kind of Cult figure (See for all of this SGDI 1334-67, Also seg 23.471,15 synarchontes federal officials)"..."
The Greeks call those people Illyrians who occupy the region beyond Macedonia and Thrace from Chaonia and Thesprotia to the river Danube. This is the length of the country. Its breadth is from Macedonia and the mountains of Thrace to Pannonia and the Adriatic and the foothills of the Alps. I
Hammond, NGL (1994). Philip of Macedon. London, UK: Duckworth. "Epirus was a land of milk and animal products...The social unit was a small tribe, consisting of several nomadic or semi-nomadic groups, and these tribes, of which more than seventy names are known, coalesced into large tribal coalitions, three in number: Thesprotians, Molossians and Chaonians...We know from the discovery of inscriptions that these tribes were speaking the Greek language (in a West-Greek dialect)"
"Speakers of these various Greek dialects settled different parts of Greece at different times during the Middle Bronze Age, with one group, the "northwest" Greeks, developing their own dialect and peopling central Epirus. This was the origin of the Molossian or Epirotic tribes."
E.N.Borza "In the shadow of Olympus; The emergence of Macedon" (revised edition, 1992), page 62
The territory of Epirus was the mountainous coastal region of modern north-western Greece and southern Albania. To the north was Illyria and to the east Macedonia. To the Greeks the Epirotes were barbarians, although their ancestry was Dorian. Epirus was a poor land, rich only in warriors. The dominant tribe of Epirus were the Molossians.
hahaha so fun to see asshole-gayreeks being hard men...don t worry now is time to open the cameria question and we will send all you fucking greeks-ethiopian slaves bastards back to Africa in coffins...Long Live United Albania ..Epir is the heart of Albania like the heart of Albanian-Epirote Achil Aspetos is in his feet...
Greek Army unstop to Potgoritsa !!! poor monkey from Caucasus , Freedom to North Epirus !!! Freedom to Akrokeraynia !!! The protocol of Corfu is open !!! ΑΓΑΡΙΝΑ ΤΟΥΡΚΟΜΟΥΝΟΓΔΑΡΜΑΤΑ
all these are bullshits they have no points of truth At all !!! you have taken some part of fake sources and you present them as history ... and with that video what do you try to do achieve ??? to show that you want ? no way ... you should rememeber thah before second world war the condinents of greece were larger.and at least you should be gratefull to greeks because they employ you bastards.if you think you will ever get what these video say you should thiknk twice!!!! ALBANIAN GOOD ONLY DEAD
"The deluge in the time of Deucalion, for instance, took place chiefly in the Greek world and in it especially about ancient Hellas, the country about Dodona and the Achelous, a river which has often changed its course. Here the Selli dwelt and those who were formerly called Graeci and now Hellenes."
one of these days Laistrigonas, you will have to learn to review primary sources and come to your own conclusions about various issues in life. for now, you are really like a parrot that just repeats, cuts, pastes, and really doesn't have a single original idea.
why?! you are a young guy, and you are supposed to be rebelling against the ideas of your parents, or at least calling them into question. instead, you eat them like a good altar boy.
yes...but i wish to know what the songs are talking about(translate please-if you are able to do it from greek lang. to english!-or I'm doing it for you from arvanitika/albanian to greek or english....
of course that I can do it...but I just was intresting to know your point of view,your capacity to translate from greek(if those are greek songs with greek words and greek music like you claim)...
Laistri. dont use this word-BESA is only for Arberor people...not for the others!You said that this is greek music...I didn't find so many words in greek lang. in these songs...hmmmm....what's happen with your claims some times ago that you tried to tell us that arvanitika lang. has nothing to do with albanian lang'...all albanians(look them comments) can understand these songs...
true true true true mann true i really could understand the language tell me one greek who can understand this and i wont call epirus again albanian but sorry it is albanian mofuckas epirotes is albanian get rid off this shit fukking greeks even europe is letting u die now with (financial lies) europe wont handle you thats why they are letting u down same like you lied with finances to europe you lied with history greek your whole state will be destroyed you will destroy yourself fuking greeks
AcEyez11 2 months ago
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AcEyez11 2 months ago
You must learn that,read what all the historians wrote and after try explain the whole knowlegde!
If you do that then you will see that Epirotans were Greeks and they have nothing to do with Illyrians or you!
Some historians supported that they were barbarians but nobody said that they were similar with bIllyrians,neither that they were Albanians!
Learn also that Epirotes participated to the Olympic Games and in those games only the Greeks have the right to participate!
MacedoniaHellen 4 months ago
"The term barbarian in varius occasions,the term was also used by Greeks,especially the Athenians to derive other Greek tribes and states(such as Epirotes,Elean,Macedonians and Aeolic-speakers in pejorative and politically motivated manner."
Greek-english lexicon,Liddell and Scott,Perseas Project,Taft Univ,USA
MacedoniaHellen 4 months ago
"The deluge in the time of Deucalion,forinstance,took place chietty in the Greek world and in it especially about ancient Hellas,the country about Dodona and the Achelous a river which has often changed its course.Here the Selloi and those who were formelly called Greaci and now Hellenes."
Aristotle,Metereologika,1.14
MacedoniaHellen 4 months ago
"The name "Epirus" comes from the greek word "Hpeiros" meaning mainland.The Albanian name for the region deriving from the greek name."
Liddell,Henry George,Scott,Robert-Oxford University
MacedoniaHellen 4 months ago
"The Epirotes thought apparently speakers of an epichoric Northwest Greek dialect and they were Greeks"
Herodotus,Histories,6.127
Dionysius of Halicarnasus,Roman Antiquities,10.19.11
Pausanias,Description of Greece,1.11.7-1.12.2
Eutropius,Roman History,book 2,XI,XIII
Hammond NGL,Phillip of Macedon
MacedoniaHellen 4 months ago
"In antiquity,Epirus was settled by the same hellenic tribes that went on to settle the rest of Greece."
Eugene Borza 1992,p.62,78,98
Minaham James-Encyclopedia of Stateless Nations,2002,p.578
MacedoniaHellen 4 months ago
Here is histrory with TRUTH.
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chicagogeorge 1 year ago
You also failed to mention Polybius including Epirotes, with all the other Greeks, Aristotle calling Dodona Ancient Hellas, and that Herodotus mentions on several occasions that Alcon the Molossian was Greek, and that the Thessalians originally were from Thesprotia aka Epirus. Are the Thessalians Albanian or Illyrians too! LOL!
chicagogeorge 1 year ago
at 2:25 in you mention the word Aspetos in the language of the Epirotes. PLEASE PLEASE check an etymological dictionary or an ancient Greek dictionary and see what Aspetos means and where it originates. Or just google Alexander the Great: a reader By Ian Worthington on page 22. Yes he quotes Oxford. So your lame
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This is absolutely sick how all invaders around autochthon Greeks steal Greek history, culture, name of their tribes = Makedon, Epiro .... fuck their language ... even denying that any Greeks lived and live !!!!!!!!!
Pure Greek tribe Epiro " are " turkoalbanian gypsies !!!! ????
Pure Greek tribe Makedon " are " Scytho-Venetian Slavs !!! ???
Pure Anatolian Little Asian Greeks " are " Turkotatarian gypsies !!! ???
Maybe Nigerians will claim in future that Spartans are Nigerians !!!
bubibuLo 1 year ago
Je njesh plako. Mos e vrit mendjen fare se c'thone Greket.
Zoti vonon por nuk harron.
wolfridik 1 year ago
IN * PE * RA * TO * RE * BT *, Jhezus Nazarenus * Principi Emathie * Regi Albaniae * Terrori Osmanorum * Regi Epirotarum * Benedictat Te (Jesus Nazarene Blesses Thee [Skanderbeg], Prince of Mat, King of Albania, Terror of the Ottomans, King of Epirus).
agon1984 1 year ago
EPIRI ESHTE NJE DHE JU BYTH QIRA GREQIE E KENI PUSHTUAR JUGUN E EPIRIT NE 1913,POR NUK DO VONOJE DITA QE DO TU ZBYTHIM NGA JUGU I EPIRIT.EPIRI=SHQIPERIIIIIIII MORE GREK BYTHQI
labtepelene1 1 year ago
stin ousia exw polla na pw alla den einai efikto opws px oti i ipeiros den einai oute elliniki oute alvaniki afou anekathen zousan kai oi dyo laoi armonika, ti to palevoume loipon kai tsakwnomaste?sto katw katw ama anatreksoume pio palia den ypirxan kan synora, einai dynaton na milame gia alvanous kai ellines?eimai prothymos na sizitisw me opoiondipote morfwmeno kai dianoumeno ellina,na antallaksoume apopseis.paidia an den kanoumne emeis kati tha fame ta moutra mas, einai xazo ayto pou symvainei
gelion1987 1 year ago
ta koina pou exoun oi ellines me tous alvanous den ta exoun me kanean lao twn valkaniwn giayto einai lathos na einai yper twn slavwn opws px twn servwn. symmaxia kai adelfopoiisi me tous alvanous lynei polla provlimata sta valkania ena apo ta opoia einai oi skopianoi oi opoiioi stin ousia einai slavoi kai den exoun kamia sxesi me tin arxaiotita,milane kathara voulgarika. ta lew ayta giati pragamtika exw diavasei polla kai exw spoudasei kai elliniki filologia oso kai na akougetai parakseno....
gelion1987 1 year ago
kai na ginoume dynatoi. vgazoume ta apothimena mas. kai oi dyo plevres exoun kanei lathi. to kalo einai ta afisoume ola pisw kai na exoume allilosevasmo gia tis glwsses kai tous politismous mas. oi ellines kai oi alvanoi proipirxan sta valkania kai einaI apo tous araxaioterous laous. oi alloi laoi(voulgaroi,skopianoi,servoi) irthan ton ogdoo aiwna. alvanikes lekseis kai anafora stous alvanous iparxoun sta erga twn arxaiwn syggrafewn,alvanoi episis sineisferan stin apeleytherwsi tis elladas...
gelion1987 1 year ago
ena pragama lew egw, epeidi to misos den exei telos mipws telika einai megali agapi? ki egw exw logomaxisei me ellines edw sto youtube alla to kanw epeidi mas exoun sourei polla, alvanos eimai kai poli morfwmenos kai tha elega oti kserw kati parapanw. nomizw oti edw grafoun mono fasistes ellines oi pragamtika dianoumenoi kseroun tin alitheia. oi alvanoi kai oi ellines siniparxoun apo tin araxaiotita kai dinoun kai pernoun o enas apo ton allon. anti na kanoume mia symmaxia...
gelion1987 1 year ago
falenderime per punen qe keni bere ne kete video
1964arti 1 year ago
FUCK ALL GAY & BITCH GREECE
Freedom to South Epir
YOU ARE ALL GYPSYS ,BITCH GREECE
cameria1000 1 year ago
Since you refer to Achilles,read the Homer's Iliad and you will see that he was GREEK prince of Thessaly and he fought with the rest of Greeks against Troyans!!
And your opinion about Aristotelis is your bigger joke on this video!
Nobody in the world quote something like this!!
You must to send this video to the Bigger joke's contest and you will win,i'm sure for that!
Albanians,if you want to becam part of civilized Europe,leave these nonsence now!!
alevas29 2 years ago 4
"Epirus was an ancient GREEK state"
(Wikipedia,Britanica,Americana,Encarta encyclopedia)
"Epirus,the oldest GREEK land"
(Claudios Ptolemaios-2th century)
As you can see,you must to read again the history because you know nothing!
But this time,read the real history,the whole books which you have and not the nationalistic theories and the isolated texts of your leaders!
And learn that,you are trying to disort history because you want to have rights in this area,but the truth don't leave you!!
alevas29 2 years ago
"Pyrrus was a GREEK general of the Hellenistic era.He was the king of the GREEK tribe of Molossians,of the royal Aaecid house and later he became king of Epirus and Macedon"
(Pyrrus by Plutarch
Wikipedia encyclopedia
Britanica encyclopedia
Jones Archer and Eugene Borza have the same opinion!
"Pyrrus was the son of Greek king of Molossia,Aaecid and Pythia,a GREEK women from Thessaly"
(Pyrrus by Plutarch)
As you can see,Plutarch write clearly about the greek origin of Pyrrus!!
alevas29 2 years ago
"The Epirotes,thoung apparently speakers of an epichoric Northwest GREEK dialect"
"Thesprotians,Chaonians and the Molossians were the three principal clusters of GREEK-speaking tribes of Epirus"
"Molossians were an ancient GREEK tribe inhabited the region of Epirus"
(Plutarch-Paralliloi Vioi
Dionysus-Roman antiquities
Pausanias-Description of Greece
Eutropius-Abridgment of Roman history)
Wikipedia,Britanica and Americana encyclopedia have these articles.
alevas29 2 years ago
"Epirus is a greek name and it signifies "mainland" or "continent".Epirus was settled by GREEKS early in the first millenium but remained a frontier area contested with the Illyrians peoples of the Adriatic coast"(Wikipedia-Britanica encyclopedia)
If Epirotans were not Greeks whyb their name derived from the greek language?
alevas29 2 years ago
Η ΗΠΕΙΡΟΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΟΣΟ ΚΙ ΑΝ ΤΟ ΘΕΛΕΤΕ ΜΠΑΣΤΑΡΔΙΑ ΑΛΒΑΝΟΙ!!!
FilEllinas92 2 years ago
you say that you did not bend to the turks, there is no connection betwen the old Greeks and you. The athens during the otoman empire was inhabited by turks and their slaves including some albanians and greeks. whetever is in your blood tobay may be but not greek, what i do not like is that there you want it or not there is some albanian blod as well, in the form of arvanites that now say have Gayreek concence. Is like to say I am and lion with a rat concenece.
bertprotoduari 2 years ago 2
Dykefalos at once up your ass,
is not youre blame as your gay preist is makin the histery/history of grece however tthey want and you are the ignorants that beleive all they say.
Grece still is full of albanians young and old, some call themseve arvanites and some are the newcomers the alvani, you should be proud of them as africans are coming there lately and they look more like native greeks.
If there is a bigger lie in this planet it is your histery,i mean history-that is what you are,a lie.
bertprotoduari 2 years ago
listen....i'm albanian and i'm proud to be one....but all this is bullshit......
ajo me gjuhen njehere qe flitej ne epirin e vjeter dhe qe ngjante me shqipen ishte kot fare dhe e sajuar....ja ke fut pordhes kot...eshte komplet e sajuar sidomos ajo pjese e videos.....
nqs ti dhe shume te tjere me te vertete doni qe shqiperia te perparoj lerini fantazirat dhe competition dhe shikoni realitetin...shikoni ate qe shqiperia eshte tani....
crazything31 2 years ago
Yes it isn't a secret to any historian of the planet or to any person who knows the very basics of european history, but i am afraid very few of your compatriots would accept the facts as they are.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
whats this another Albanian Hodxa version of history...
Listen dumbanian dont spread your filth to the rest of the world, no wonder why hodxa kept you guys land locked and fed you people potatoes and propaganda up the ass so far you couldnt even see!! well dont you think its time to wake the fuck up dumbania?
Dykefalos 2 years ago
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pelates...alvanoi
to mono pou exetai ..prosferei stin ellada
einai...aderfes kai manades..san sermadektries...ELLINON
gntovas 2 years ago
alvanoi pros to parwn koitakste na vgalete kanena psixoulo apo tis douleies pou sas dinoume kai meta miliste gia politismo....xaxaxax....DOULOI.......
gismokan 2 years ago
ta psixoula te xriaseste esis tora tha fate o enas ton alo, gifti tis mikris asias
gamo tin eladha sou karapustaradhes
cameriaw1 2 years ago
GREECE 4 EVER!!!!
NICKTHEDIG1989 2 years ago
gamieste koloalbanoi!Tha thelate polu na eiste ellines alla den ginete!Giati ellinas geniese!Den ginese!Bromiarides!Leyteria stin borio ipiro!
nikos77771980 2 years ago 3
hey nikos piece of shit
krata ton elinismo gia sena kalitera na imouna skylos para elinas
fuck your lesbian, gay mother called greece
cameriaw1 2 years ago
Epirotes and Macedonians both talk about military triumphs against Illyrian tribes.. they clearly distinguish them as outsiders, plus it's nice that you like to give examples of how the modern day Albanian language has Latin/ Greco and Slavic roots.. ands that because you were always under another empire, Roman Byzantine and slavic invasions...
you people have nothing to do with Greece and as for your claims of Illyrian decent... I don't know what the fuck you inbreds are talking about..
Dykefalos 2 years ago 2
Just watch what the ancient historians and geografers wrote ...greeks don't exsist anymore.there are only some mix turkopontianoslavovlachoarvanites in today Greece.
Pigene na gamithis tora.
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
ok dick head.... and your decendants of the Illyrians... whatever dude, you people are such a sad race of people...
Greeks aren't the ones who change there names and identities with every country they visit, or more than less get kicked out of.. all of europe hates you people why don't you just go back to your mother... TURKEY
ALBANIAN!!! PROPAGANDA!!! BULLSHIT!!!!
ALBANIAN = INBRED NIGGER GYPSIE
Dykefalos 2 years ago
Ta qi ate jevgen qe te ka bere koken une ty ore turkosporepontos...
pthuuuuuuu...robqira na beni si cuba ju evgjitet e azise se vogel!
mallakastrioti 2 years ago 3
dykefalos or shall i say double dig head
greeks are the very same who emigratesd in germany, australia and allover europe and america and why is that becaouse you liked turism no mate cos you had no food to put on the table
the turks occupied your racist country for 400 years and fucked your ancestors and now you claim you are greek, YOU LITTLE TURKS ,
all the best little double headed dig
cameriaw1 2 years ago 3
they did occupy us for 400 years, but guess what.. we didnt loose our identity, our religion nor our language.. as a matter of fact Greeks were the most flourishing peoples in the ottoman empire, as independent peoples, we didnt wanna join the ranks of the ottomans like the albanians did.you read? Ottomans stated, Albanians were the most backwards peoples and the Greeks the ones who flourished the most. ex. shipping, merchants/ trade. so bend over and take this double dick!!in your ass and mouth
Dykefalos 2 years ago
hard about skanderbeg who fought the turks was he albanian by any chance or you want to call him greek too
which dig are you talking about gay , you can only fuck with your srse
cameriaw1 2 years ago 3
Double headed dig
As per religion we have an albanian identity and live 4 religions in harmony something you cant do < im orthodox myself but not greek.
Bending over and taking the dig in the mouth is a greek tradition
as the english say DON'T BE GREEK
cameriaw1 2 years ago 2
Bend over and take the double dig in your ass and mouth ? I think those greek gay fantasies are now starting to work you like it double up you ass dont you faggot?
cameriaw1 2 years ago 2
@Dykefalos for someone who comes from a country where more than half the population resemble pakistanis, where the so called "greek" nation consists of arvanites, slavs, ancient greeks, persians, arabs, turks and even african, a true multiracial cocktail of a nation. you cite us some gypsy gayreek historian blowing his own trumpet, lets talk reall credible sources gyppo! same invaders we had you embraced and collaborated wholeheartedly so slavs, turks and latin ran your hairy asses for centuries
hekoka 9 months ago
Gjergj Kastrioti in a letter to the italian prince Xhovani-Antonio Orsini in 31.10.1460 said
".. ne jemi epirot, dhe, siç duhet ta dini, paraardhes tanët kanë kalur në kohë të ndryshme nëpër vendin që mbani ju sot dhe janë ndeshur me romakët ndër beteja të mëdha, dhe[aty, në kronikat] kemi gjetur se më të shumtën e herës janë ndarë më nder se me turp. "
just like kosovas time came, so will çamerias time... i hope arvanitasit wake up soon..
valdrin85 2 years ago
Epirus (Qamrija) was and is Albanian land that was stolen. We will never forget our qamrija and especially the massacres their dogs angetahn the Albanians did. in the near future, the area back under Albanian konkrolle, then you allah merciless.
Kosova08Albania12 2 years ago
ah... and beleive me.. do not ask for the bill...
stoangelos 2 years ago
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yeah man!! bravo!! sure!!
alexander the great was speaking slavic and i am albanian.... you must be very clever and i must be very stupid since i could not realize all above so far.... and the rest of the world is stupid too... thanks for enlightening...
i am sure that after some years it will be prooved tha most of the italians are albanian too, and frankfurt belongs to skopjie, and beijing is turkish... good work... keep it moving..
stoangelos 2 years ago
yeah man!! bravo!! sure!!
alexander the great was speaking slavic and i am albanian.... you must be very clever and i must be very stupid since i could not realize all above so far.... and the rest of the world is stupid too... thanks for enlightening...
i am sure that after some years it will be prooved tha most of the italians are albanian too, and frankfurt belongs to skopjie, and beijing is turkish... good work... keep it moving..
stoangelos 2 years ago
Inscriptional evidence of the Chaones is lacking until the Hellinistic period; but Ps-Scylax, describing the situation of c. 380-360 put the Southern limit of the Illyrians just north of the Chaones, which indicates that the Chaones did not speak Illyrian, and the acceptance of the Chaones into the Epirote alliance in the 330s suggest strongly that they were Greek-speaking
The Cambridge Ancient History - The Expansion of the Greek World, Eighth to Sixth Centuries B.C.P Mack Crew Page 284
adavalas 2 years ago
The West Greek dialect group denotes the dialects spoken in: (i) the northwest Greek regions of Epeiros, Akarnania, Pthiotid Akhaia.
Johnathan M. Hall, Ethnic Identity in Greek Antiquity, Cambridge University Press, 1997
Alexander was King Philips eldest legitimate child. His mother, Olympias,came from the ruling clan of the northwestern Greek region of Epirus.
David Sacks, A Dictionary of the Ancient Greek World, Oxford, 1995
adavalas 2 years ago
Certainly the Thracians and the Illyrians were non-Greek speakers, but in the northwest, the peoples of Molossis {Epirot province}, Orestis and Lynkestis spoke West Greek. It is also accepted that the Macedonians spoke a dialect of Greek and although they absorbed other groups into their territory, they were essentially Greeks.
Robert Morkot, The Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece,Penguin Publ., 1996
adavalas 2 years ago
Just like Macedonia, Epirus was inhabited by several tribes; some of them were Greek beyond any doubt
Molossians, Selloi, Hellenes, Grakoi, ... were Greek.
Now, was ANY of non-Greek tribes ever lived in Epirus called by ANYONE as (ethnic) Epirotan ?
If yes, then we shall consider the term Epirotan as geographic, if not then Epirotans were Greek.
adavalas 2 years ago
Hilding Thylander from [Swedish humanistic institution starts his book "The greek world" with a study on the pre-indoeuropean cultures of Greece. "Back in 1958, new excavations were made in Biotia, Elis (Fthiotida), Epirus, the Ionian Islands and Thessali. It's clear that those lands were inhabited by Hellinic tribes before 20 000 B.C".
adavalas 2 years ago
The oldest archaelogical evidence that show the Greekness of the Epirotans was a Prehistoric vase as also and the tumulus consrtuction. Kantharos-shaped cup from grave 5 of tumulus A at Merope-Pogonion (district of Ioannina). Traces of black paint are preserved on the lower part of the body (h. 0,184 m.).Tumulus are built in the classical mucenean (as called) and found not only in Epirus but also and in Macedonia.
Both are dated to the end of the 11th or the beginning of the 10th century B.C.
adavalas 2 years ago
"The deluge in the time of Deucalion, for instance, took place chiefly in the Greek world and in it especially about ancient Hellas, the country about Dodona and the Achelous, a river which has often changed its course. Here the Selli dwelt and those who were formerly called Graeci and now Hellenes."
Aristotle Meteorologica
adavalas 2 years ago
The Illyrian iris also grew in this valley, which
was prized by the Greeks (Beaumont 1936). The Greeks, being a seafaring people, also
desired to import ship-timber from Epirus and bitumen which was found near Selenicë
(south east of Apollonia) in Illyris (Hammond 1982b; Hammond 1992).
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
The Illyrian tribes were organized in a patriarchal society and were ruled by a
hereditary monarchy along with a warrior class. Excavation of Illyrian tumuli, especially
of the aristocratic or warrior graves, has resulted in the recovery of impressive metal
weapons and jewelry, showing a mastery of metal prior to Greek contact (Hammond
1982b).
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
(Tumuli was ONLY in Illyrians,Epirotes and Macedonians usance!!!!!NOT FOR THE GREEKS!!!!!
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
The Illyrians crafted pottery, tools, weapons, and ornaments (Prifti 1986).
Perhaps by coincidence alone, the fully developed use of iron among the Illyrians by the
eighth century B.C.E. coincides with the beginning of contact with the Greeks (Wilkes
1995).
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
GREEK EXPANSION: MIGRATION AND COLONIZATION
Beginning before the ninth century B.C.E. and continuing until the rise of the
Roman Empire, Greek people expanded throughout the Mediterranean and along the
Black Sea. Greek expansion was a combination of both migration and colonization. Prior
to 850 B.C.E. the movement of people was primarily migratory as the Greek mainland,
principal Aegean islands, and the western seaboard of Asia Minor were settled.
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Why greeks colonised Corcyra,Apollonia and Epidamnos ONLY by the sea and not from the land,if Epirus was ....greek territory?????
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
The
second phase is the colonial movement, which began about 750 B.C.E. and continued
until about 550 B.C.E. (Gwynn 1918; Hammond 1975). The final phase of Greek
expansion involves the Macedonian kings and the Hellenization of the East, which was
accomplished by Alexander (Gwynn 1918).
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
The process of Greek colonization, particularly in
the area to the north of Greece known in the Classical Age as Illyria. While many Greek
city-states (poleis) participated in founding colonies throughout the Mediterranean and
along the Black Sea, it was Corinth that founded the major colonies in the Adriatic and in
Illyria.
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
"Arha Ellas apo Oricias kai arhegonos Ellas Epiros"
"Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus."
Claudius Ptolemy
adavalas 2 years ago
The earliest
Greek colonists did not immediately displace the native tribes in Illyria and Epirus and
they did not try to Hellenize them, but they allowed their separate social organization and
customs to continue unimpeded (Gwynn 1918).
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Ancient writers make a very clear segregation between Illyrians and Epirotans.I begin with Strabo
... beginning at the recess of the Adriatic and extending as far as the Sacred Mouth of the Ister. In this country are Greece and the tribes of the Macedonians and of the Epeirotes, and all those tribes above them whose countries reach to the Ister and to the seas on either side, both the Adriatic and the Pontic � to the Adriatic, the Illyrian tribes, ...
Strabo,Geography, 7,V
adavalas 2 years ago
As the falsification of ancient textes is a kind of propaganda the same is the habit to keep whatever u want from textes and to hide what ever u don't!All of your quotes have the same problem!And this is a very serious problem because these quotes followed by words or phrases which gives further infos which guide to a tottally different conclusion tfrom yours!We can examine them one by one tif u wish it!Sorry man but your own arguments proves that Illyrians and Epirutes were differents people
orionasGR7 2 years ago
Modern Hellenics:
Από εδώ αρχίζει η Ελλάδα που φτάνει έως τον ποταμό Πηνειό και το Ομόλιο, πόλη των Μαγνήτων,που βρίσκεται στον ποταμό αυτό
My language is the continuity of the ancient Hellenic language and this give me the abilite to have the honor and pleasure to read ancient Hellenic textes in their ancient form!
orionasGR7 2 years ago
And if u prefer there is a better explanation in modern Hellenic which is exactly the sam withe ancient!!!take a look:
Από εδώ η Ελλάδα συνεχής είναι μέχρι τον Πηνειό ποταμό και το Ομάλιο,Μαγνητική πόλη,που είναιι δίπλα στον ποταμό
orionasGR7 2 years ago
Ancient Hellenics
Ἐντεῦθεν ἄρχεται ἡ Ἑλλὰς συνεχὴς εἶναι μέχρι Πη-
νειοῦ ποταμοῦ καὶ Ὁμολίου Μαγνητικῆς πόλεως, ἥ
ἐστι παρὰ τὸν ποταμόν
orionasGR7 2 years ago
And don't make speak about the wrong translation of the ancient texts!!!For example Skylax worte:
From here begins Greece which reaches to the river Pinios and Omolios,town which belongs to Magnites,located in this river.
Pinios is in the era of Thessaly!That means that it is south-east from Ambrakia
So where do u find the words "From there and down is Hellas no end"??The falsification of ancient texts is equal to propaganda!!!And if u want to see the real ancient text it following...
orionasGR7 2 years ago
LOL...U r so addicted to prove that Epirutes were not Hellenes that u loose even your final target!Ok lets say that according to all these ancient sources Epirutes weren't Hellenes!But According to them Epirutes weren't not Illyrians too!Everywhere and according to everyone of them Illyrians was somethnig tottaly different from Epirutes!None of them said or wrote that Epirutes were an Illyrian tribe!!!So how do u connect,according to ancients authors,with Illyrians?There is no logic in this!!
orionasGR7 2 years ago
Epirus, though mostly held by people of Grecian speech and lineage... Herodotus however, among earliest, and Plutarch, among late ancient historians, clearly reckon the Molossians a Grecian people. Some expressions of Thucydides and Strabo may perhaps be construed either way. But, as it has been formerly observed, Herodotus, Thucydides, and Strabo concur in showing that all Greece was of mixed population;
The history of Greece, by lord Redesdale By William Mitford
adavalas 2 years ago
Whereas this did not happen with the Persians or the Egyptians, it did wit the Molossians (who were probably ethnically/linguistically Greek-see bellow). In other words what may have begun as poetic or erudite inventions caught on. For the Molossians, for example, Greek heroic origins ceased to be merely a matter for Greek-centered erudite Ethnography of the Other but were incorporated and adopted y that other.
The Return of Odysseus: Colonization and ethnicity by Irad Malkin
adavalas 2 years ago
The Epirotes, who may fairly be considered as Greeks by blood, long maintained a rugged independence under native chiefs, who were little more than leaders in war.
A Manual of Greek Antiquities
Book by Percy Gardner, Frank Byron Jevons; Charles Scribners Sons, 1895, page 8
P.S. I can write all night long quotes from famous academics non Greeks that all of them said that Epirus and Epirotes were Greeks.
adavalas 2 years ago
Ask Strabo about...and most of ancient scolars.Epirotes can't be greeks and pelasgians in the same time.
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
ask Pierre Cabanes(was Cabanes that said to us the non presence of any greek colonie in Buthrotum-Butrint) and most of the stone texts are in doric and not in Ionic with the life of the ancient people that was too different from the greeks!
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Herodotus of Halicarnassus wrote:
Hellespont, who before that had been settlers with the Athenians, and of the natives of the various other towns which are really Pelasgian, though they have lost the name. If one must pronounce judging by these, the Pelasgians used to speak a Barbarian language. If therefore all the Pelasgian race was such as these, then the Attic race, being Pelasgian, at the same time changed and became Hellenic, unlearnt also its language.
adavalas 2 years ago
Dorians wasn't Greeks mallakastrioti ? Wow what a theory! Pls amuse us (sorry i meant enlighten us) . What were they? Albanians perhaps? :)
You cant change history my friend neither the truth. :)
P.S. Forgive me my Albanian friends.I highly respect your people and your history as a ancient race at Balkans but with somethings the only you can do is to laugh.
adavalas 2 years ago
Many Pelasgians gradually became Greeks. Greeks was not a specific race but a combination of races with common origin who came to greece and mixed with older populations like Pelasgians.
adavalas 2 years ago
So you accept that the Pelasgians were not greeks...they became or were in part assimilated by greeks.The same that happend with vlachs,arvanites,and slavs?...because the "greek cause " is not an race,but many races under the same faith.
Common origin?...you are so contradictor,how can be an vlach equal with an pontian,or with the slav,or with an arvanites?...mix populatin in ancient time till today?...wow really intresting.
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
The Molossians were the strongest and, decisive for Macedonia, most easterly of the three most important Epeirot tribes... They were Greeks, spoke a similar dialect to that of Macedonia, suffered just as much from the depredations of the Illyrians and were in principle the natural partners of the Macedonian king who wished to tackle the Illyrian problem at its roots.
Malcolm Errington, A History of Macedonia, California University Press, 1990.
adavalas 2 years ago
Theopompus knew fourteen Epirote tribes, speakers of a strong west-Greek dialect, of which the Chaones held the plain of Buthrotum, the Thesproti the plain of Acheron, and the Molossi the plain of Dodona, which forms the highland centre of Epirus with an outlet southwards to Ambracia.
N.G.L.Hammond, Oxford Classical Dictionary, 3rd ed. (1996), pp.546,547
adavalas 2 years ago
Certainly the Thracians and the Illyrians were non-Greek speakers, but in the northwest, the peoples of Molossis {Epirot province}, Orestis and Lynkestis spoke West Greek. It is also accepted that the Macedonians spoke a dialect of Greek and although they absorbed other groups into their territory, they were essentially Greeks. Robert Morkot, The Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece,Penguin Publ., 1996
adavalas 2 years ago
Speakers of these various Greek dialects settled different parts of Greece at different times during the Middle Bronze Age, with one group, the northwest Greeks, developing their own dialect and peopling central Epirus. This was the origin of the Molossian or Epirotic tribes.
E.N.Borza In the shadow of Olympus; The emergence of Macedon (revised edition, 1992), page 62
adavalas 2 years ago
te lumte video e bukur,,,dhe ketij aravounes i qifsha te vdekurit,,, shkruaka dhe shqip ky ropqiri,,
skyline6666666 2 years ago
Po ku kanë cipë grekërit or aman?!Ashtu siç ja ndërruan embrin Kaonisë ja vunë Epir...., ashtu dhe Çamërisë e ja vune Thesproti....,
ashtu dhe Morea-së , ja vunë, Peloponisos.
adibesos 2 years ago
Edhe harten ne 0:10 e fallsifikove o nacionalist ?
I ke vene "northwest greeks" te gjiri i Korintit, hahaha.
Nuk je vetem nacionalist, je dhe idiot.
aravouna 3 years ago
ne radhe te pare idioti i sateme se linden ato nenat tuaja disa si ty...e dyta deri afer Athines do cuar kufiri se ashtu ka qene...e treta cdo te thote grek?Cilet jane keta grek te sotem?
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
degjo ore karagjoz, kliko "ancient greece maps","ancient epirus maps", "ancient greek tribes", "ancient greek dialects" dhe do gjesh material me bollek.
Dhe harta qe ke vene titullohet "dialects of the aegean".Keshtu qe ti manipulon me pakujdesine e shikuesve qe ndoshta se lexojne titullin.
aravouna 2 years ago
greqia e lashte fillonte nga gjiri i Ambrakise e poshte ore te keputur ne mes...po ju la kooperativa bujqesore cyryk nga mente ju ore...ngaterroni influencen e qyteterimit hellen me fiset qe jetonin ne ate kohe ne Epir(kontinent)
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
bej ate qe te thashe une dhe do informohesh mire.
aravouna 2 years ago
Dhe dicka tjeter o nacionalist.
Nqs kane thembra shqiptaret le te bejne te njejten gje qe bejne greket pa frike.
Ashtu sic kane greket "qarkun e Epirit" le te vene dhe shqiptaret emertime te tilla,jo "qarku i Vlores","qarku i Gjirokastres".
Se shumica e shqiptareve nxjerrin eksanthema ne lekure kur degjojne fjalen "Epir".
aravouna 2 years ago
dhe dicka tjeter ore romio-arumun...qe ta dish ti ai emertim Epir-nuk do te thote asgje tjeter vetem term gjeografik-pra Kontinent.Nuk kemi nevoje ne te ndryshojme emertimet e krahinave tona sepse nuk ndjekim politike asimiluese si gerket dhe gerxhet e tu evgjito-megali ideiste!
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
pyet gerxhet pse hoqen emertimin e Camerise dhe e kthyen Thesproti...kur ne shumicen e hartave te shek 17-18 njihet si e tille?...pyet gerxhet pse emertimi Cameri vjen nga lumi i lashte Thyamis?....cne Camet quhen me emertimin e ketij lumi...ai qe sot quhet lumi i kalamait?(term grek antik do jete edhe ky-Lumi i Kalamait)...ikni ore te keputur ikni
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Emri "Epir " eshte emertim me perfaqesues.Keni rrethet e Gjirokastres,Tepelenes,Permetit.Atehere pse nuk i perfshini keto rrethe tek qarku i Epirit te Veriut perderisa jeni te bindur qe Epiri ishte rajon shqiptar?
aravouna 2 years ago
Dhe Saranda tradicionalisht ka qene bashke me Gjirokastren.Po ta shikosh dhe nga ana teknike sarandiotet do sherbeheshin me mire po te perfshiheshin tek qarku i Gjirokastres.
A ke ti ndonje shpjegim per kete ndarje admionistrative?
aravouna 2 years ago
po pse ore ne kohen e turkut...sa krahina ke ti qe njehere ishin bashke...me vone beheshin me nje krahine tjeter...ato qe quheshin nahije...merr nahijen e Kurveleshit dhe hap syte te mesosh sa zona te tilla ka pasur ne ate kohe ne te
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
po ore meqenese ngelet me gisht ne goje ju me keto ngjarjet e fundit...oburra ore te bashkoni zonat e Shqiperise se Jugut sipas interesave voriopirdhiote...jepini se do beni kerdine te them...a u ftofshi ne mendere ju ore...as shqiptar edhe as grek!
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
E mohon qe Gjirokastra eshte kryeqendra e jugut te Shqiperise?
E mohon qe Saranda ishte mese normale te perfshihej ne qarkun e Gjirokastres qofte nga ana historike,qofte nga ana gjeografike,qofte nga ana teknike e sherbimit te qytetareve sarandiot?
aravouna 2 years ago
po per kohen e sulltan hamidit po me flet ketu apo si ore se po e ben lesh arapi
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
C`po me dridhesh si kurva o mallakastriot?
Kush te foli per kohen e sulltan hamidit?
Btw nuk kam pare as edhe nje harte ku emertohet rajoni i Epirit, Cameri.
Bujrum na sillni ndonje?
aravouna 2 years ago
kurva e sateme ore elikranon se te shkaperdhej gjakun tend te shprishur une degjove?
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
ore emertimi Epir-Kontinent -keshtu eshte quajtur ne kohet e lashta ore-pse ore Roma qe ishte perandori-sot kryeqyteti i Italise...sot eshte ne provincen e Lazio...do quajne italianet-Italine Rome sipas mendimit tend ore tutkun?
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Roma ka qene qytet,ashtu sic ishte Athina qytet,ashtu sic ishte Finiqi qytet,apo Butrinti etj.
Po Epiri eshte rajon gjeografik, eshte ndryshe.Une s`te them vereni qarku i Finiqit,ose i Butrintit.
aravouna 2 years ago
po eshte si emertim ore-SHQIPERIA E JUGUT!...dhe sinoret i ka deri ne gjirin e Ambrakise historikisht!
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Aty kane qene historikisht sinoret e Epirit, jo te Shqiperise.
Me kujto kur kane qene sinoret e Shqiperise te gjiri i Ambrakise o Nacionalist!
aravouna 2 years ago
pa me kujto kur kane qene sinoret e greqise siper gjirit te ambrakise zotrote?
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Molloset,thesprotet,chaonet ishin fise greke zotrote.
aravouna 2 years ago
po papa thanasi kur te kungoi ta tregoi kete harte ty ore?...ikni ore legena e mesoni se historia nuk eshte opinion gabelesh romesh greko-evgjitesh!
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
o trapa nuk u hyne ne tru fare ore se fiset epirote ishin te huaja per boten e greqise se lashte...dhe nuk vetequheshin epirotas...por quheshin kaone,thesprote,molose etj...se ishin shume fise-disa here ne aleanca midis tyre dhe disa here ne lufte midis tyre...termi Epir ju vu nga historianet greke -lexo cthote Tukiditi
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Fiset epirote ishin pjese e botes greke.Kete tregojne historianet e lashte dhe zbulimet arkeologjike.
"termi Epir ju vu nga historianet greke -lexo cthote Tukiditi".
Po ore kete emer e vune historianet dhe mbizoteroi direkt????
Ma merr mendja i ke pare ato monedha me mbishkrim "ΑΠΕΙΡΩΤΑΝ".
aravouna 2 years ago
e cdo te thote APEIROTAN ne gjuhen e gerxheve ore?...ja na hap syte nave?!
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Jo APEIROTAN por ΑΠΕΙΡΩΤΑΝ ore mallakastriot.
Dhe nqs ishit te bindur se jeni pasardhes te epiroteve do kishit mbajtur alfabetin e tyre.
aravouna 2 years ago
epo nuk i kam ato germat si kembet e pules une ore elikranon.
Pastaj nga alfabeti beni ndarjet dhe dhe prejardhjen e popullsise ju?...hahahahaha...shume patetik si njerez..
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
ju kam bere kaq here pyetje kush na qenkerkan keta hellenet e lasht ne Epir(si ty dhe mikut tend kapterr kallamboqit)...nuk me jeni pergjigjur.He pra kush jane pasardhesit e Epiroteve te lashte ne Epir?...traket apo Iliret?vllehet apo shqiptaret?...vetem mendohu mire para se te me pergjigjesh
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Pasardhesit e epiroteve te lashte ne Epir jemi ne greket e Epirit,qe flasim dhe shkruajme edhe sot gjuhen e tyre.
aravouna 2 years ago
pra ju vllehet?...po vllehet jane me prejardhje dacian-thracian....mendohu me mire se do e gjesh si pergjigje.
mallakastrioti 2 years ago
Dykefalos
hahahhahhahaah ok man ok where di u go to school?and where is Greec???which part of the world becouse i dont know???hahhahhahahah perhaps in AFRIKA??
albo4ever777 3 years ago
its very funny when ethiopian fags are trying to mess with albanians
dajaSef 3 years ago
listen to this dumb moron.. You people really make me laugh.. hhahaha. Your national hero is Greek re MALAKA! and you wave a Greek Byzantine Flag!! Yioryios Kastriotis!! Greeks and clever my friend, he mingled with the Albanians so Ali Pasha would leave him alone.. Alexanders Mother was Queen of Epirus!! Greek Speaking woman.. WTF!?! don't you people understand..?? You can't read books? I know your faces have been stuffed with Propoganda.. but now that your adults dont you realize?!
Dykefalos 3 years ago
haha..funny video..u really believe that?the macedonians spoke greek and the illirians the same,albanians and slavs came a lot much later on our holy grounds,and now you want a part of greek history?you want to become greeks?come on dont hesitate we have open minds.dont try to steal our glorious history,become one with us.the turks dont want you.europe as well dont want.only iof you declare you are becoming greeks you have asolution to your problems...haha..albanian history...hahahaha...funny
strakastrukas 3 years ago
re zwo malaka kastrioti kai na rtheite pisw paliozwa tha kanete tin elliniki afti gi san ta moutra sas.ftwxeia anergia kai mizeria.gia afto epistrofi tis alvanias stin mana-ellada!!!na fygoyn oi alvanoi sto irak apo kei poy irthan kai epitelous oi illirioi oi arxaioi ellines mas na anapaytoyn ta kokkalakia tous me ayta pou akoun ap tous tafous tous.akou ekei koloalvanoi san poli pirate aera.3 wres xreiazetai o stratos mas na parei oli tin skatoxwra sas,min mas bainetae,pisw stous kolotourkous!!!
strakastrukas 3 years ago 2
....dhe pidhi i motres tende ore turkogyftopontus aptin mikra asia ore ju qifte kina te katermbedhjetat juve evgjitet e mutit!
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
epeidi eisai online ti skata les sta alvanika?den katalavainw
strakastrukas 3 years ago
fuck all shit greek -people
proudtobeshqipe 3 years ago
mallakastrioti am from the Land of the (EPirus)and the land of Epirus is a Albanian land..the KING of the EPIRUS BARDHYLL the 2sd the son of the BARDHYLL the 1st..the KING OF ILLYRIA..
albo4ever777 3 years ago
albo4ever777== shut up you moron.. keep reading your propoganda bullshit, your national hero is a Greek you murdered muslim Albanian Turks and now you wave his Greek flag and worship him AHaHahHah who..??.. A Greek Adarti.. dumb fucks.. WOOWW almost as bad as the Skpoje morons.. GREECE IS SURROUNDED BY MORONS!!!! IDIOTS!!! UNEDUCATED MONKEYS!!!
Dykefalos 3 years ago
ΛΕΥΤΕΡΙΑ ΣΤΗ ΒΟΡΕΙΟ ΗΠΕΙΡΟ !!!
ΗΠΕΙΡΟΣ ΑΠΕΙΡΟΣ ΓΗ
ΕΦΑΡΜΟΓΗ ΤΟΥ ΠΡΩΤΟΚΟΛΟΥ ΤΗΣ ΚΕΡΚΥΡΑΣ ΤΩΡΑ
EA1821 3 years ago
Lefteria sti TSAMOURIA!!!H Tsamides Albani prepi na girisoun stin hora tous-stin TSAMOURIA!TORA!!!
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
epir ipir siper= shqip = shqipland kollaj fare
ca do me then ne greqisht epir???
tejkqyre 3 years ago
Hornblower, Simon. The Greek World, 479-323 B.C., 2002, ISBN 0415163269. "Even before about 385 the Molossian tribes had combined with the neighbouring Thesprotians and Chaonians to form a Molossian state with a king and officials called prostates (president), grammateus (secretary), and tribal representatives called demiourgoi also hieromnemones some kind of Cult figure (See for all of this SGDI 1334-67, Also seg 23.471,15 synarchontes federal officials)"..."
elikranon 3 years ago
Appian of Alexandria (c.95-c.165) is the author of a Roman History and one of the most underestimated of all Greek historians.
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
The Greeks call those people Illyrians who occupy the region beyond Macedonia and Thrace from Chaonia and Thesprotia to the river Danube. This is the length of the country. Its breadth is from Macedonia and the mountains of Thrace to Pannonia and the Adriatic and the foothills of the Alps. I
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
"from Chaonia and Thesprotia to the river Danube"
kete ti e kupton ashtu sic te pelqen.
se une e kuptoi:Iliria kufizohei me Chaonine,Thesprotine,Maqedonine,Thraken,lumin Danub,kembet e Alpeve dhe detin Adriatik.
elikranon 3 years ago
Hammond, NGL (1994). Philip of Macedon. London, UK: Duckworth. "Epirus was a land of milk and animal products...The social unit was a small tribe, consisting of several nomadic or semi-nomadic groups, and these tribes, of which more than seventy names are known, coalesced into large tribal coalitions, three in number: Thesprotians, Molossians and Chaonians...We know from the discovery of inscriptions that these tribes were speaking the Greek language (in a West-Greek dialect)"
elikranon 3 years ago
"Arha Ellas apo Oricias kai arhegonos Ellas Epiros"
"Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus."
Claudius Ptolemy, The Geographer
elikranon 3 years ago
"Speakers of these various Greek dialects settled different parts of Greece at different times during the Middle Bronze Age, with one group, the "northwest" Greeks, developing their own dialect and peopling central Epirus. This was the origin of the Molossian or Epirotic tribes."
E.N.Borza "In the shadow of Olympus; The emergence of Macedon" (revised edition, 1992), page 62
elikranon 3 years ago
BBC -reference-encyclopedia britannica
Pyrrhus the Eagle, King of Epirus: 319 - 272 BC
His Origins
Epirus
The territory of Epirus was the mountainous coastal region of modern north-western Greece and southern Albania. To the north was Illyria and to the east Macedonia. To the Greeks the Epirotes were barbarians, although their ancestry was Dorian. Epirus was a poor land, rich only in warriors. The dominant tribe of Epirus were the Molossians.
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
......
elikranon 3 years ago
epirus is ALBANIA
AndreaKola 3 years ago
ante gamithite re shqipidhes, evgale kai i miga kolo
vipeiros 3 years ago 2
dhe pidhi i motres tende ore robqir grek....yyyyyyyysssssssssttttttt...turkogyto aptin mikra asi!
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
ti dukesh nga emri kai je mallaka ore kokeloqe
vipeiros 3 years ago
kur te qi te katermbedhjetat dhe do mesosh me mire nga jam ore robqir.....pthuuuuuuuuu...fare e degjeneruar!
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
to muni tis manas sou
vipeiros 3 years ago
dhe pidhi i motres tende dhe c'te perman pragu ore bythqir jevg!
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
freedom for the North Epirus !!! you never be a Greek maklaka turkalban
EA1821 3 years ago
Freedom to TSAMOURIA from greek opression!Better nothing that greek-gyftopontus!
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
hahaha so fun to see asshole-gayreeks being hard men...don t worry now is time to open the cameria question and we will send all you fucking greeks-ethiopian slaves bastards back to Africa in coffins...Long Live United Albania ..Epir is the heart of Albania like the heart of Albanian-Epirote Achil Aspetos is in his feet...
saimoarnauti 3 years ago
Greek Army unstop to Potgoritsa !!! poor monkey from Caucasus , Freedom to North Epirus !!! Freedom to Akrokeraynia !!! The protocol of Corfu is open !!! ΑΓΑΡΙΝΑ ΤΟΥΡΚΟΜΟΥΝΟΓΔΑΡΜΑΤΑ
molossosarta 3 years ago 3
all these are bullshits they have no points of truth At all !!! you have taken some part of fake sources and you present them as history ... and with that video what do you try to do achieve ??? to show that you want ? no way ... you should rememeber thah before second world war the condinents of greece were larger.and at least you should be gratefull to greeks because they employ you bastards.if you think you will ever get what these video say you should thiknk twice!!!! ALBANIAN GOOD ONLY DEAD
mpafiarhs 3 years ago 2
te lumshin duart sa vjen dhe sjell material te pa pare..
Modern historians try to erease all this true facts!
ethnikhart 3 years ago
...hahaha...rrofsh vella,por historianet modern sot shkojne per pushime ne Greqi,prandaj nuk pranojne disa fakte.
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
po, po kisha ne pergjithsi me historjanet e huaj qe mundohin te zhdukin cdo fakt real qe ka lidhje me origjinen shqiptare. te pershendet vellai tend.
ethnikhart 3 years ago
Or again:
"Arha Ellas apo Oricias kai arhegonos Ellas Epiros"
"Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus."
Claudius Ptolemy
chicagogeorge 3 years ago 3
If Epirus is the most ancient part, what is left for Athens, the most recent ??
epirotas 3 years ago
Go argue with Aristotle!
Aristotle wrote in his work Meteorologica:
"The deluge in the time of Deucalion, for instance, took place chiefly in the Greek world and in it especially about ancient Hellas, the country about Dodona and the Achelous, a river which has often changed its course. Here the Selli dwelt and those who were formerly called Graeci and now Hellenes."
chicagogeorge 3 years ago 3
one of these days Laistrigonas, you will have to learn to review primary sources and come to your own conclusions about various issues in life. for now, you are really like a parrot that just repeats, cuts, pastes, and really doesn't have a single original idea.
why?! you are a young guy, and you are supposed to be rebelling against the ideas of your parents, or at least calling them into question. instead, you eat them like a good altar boy.
balkancoolhead 3 years ago
1st we had fakedonians-scopjans now we also have fakerotes-albanians
MERCY!!!!
Laistrigonas 3 years ago
Laistri. can you translate for us from "greek" lang these songs(arvanitika):
watch?v=tW9V9Gf74tQ
watch?v=KltBxc89jIs
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
i see you like Greek music,well done people!
after 1991 welcome to civilization!!
Laistrigonas 3 years ago
yes...but i wish to know what the songs are talking about(translate please-if you are able to do it from greek lang. to english!-or I'm doing it for you from arvanitika/albanian to greek or english....
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
you are welcome to do that for me.
Laistrigonas 3 years ago
of course that I can do it...but I just was intresting to know your point of view,your capacity to translate from greek(if those are greek songs with greek words and greek music like you claim)...
mallakastrioti 3 years ago
i didn't claim that what you wrote read again my comment,and see the difference,speak with besa
Laistrigonas 3 years ago
Laistri. dont use this word-BESA is only for Arberor people...not for the others!You said that this is greek music...I didn't find so many words in greek lang. in these songs...hmmmm....what's happen with your claims some times ago that you tried to tell us that arvanitika lang. has nothing to do with albanian lang'...all albanians(look them comments) can understand these songs...
mallakastrioti 3 years ago