Microtonal Piano (Part 1) - 19 on a 12-tone keyboard

[pan02286]

So there will b microtonal piano grades issit? :|

[SonicArtsGallery]

The tuning box, or TBX I is from Aaron Hunt's website (h-pi.com). They show a list of synths that are compatible, mostly based on full midi (in and out) and whether or not your synth is multi-timbral. Good luck. They also have a new keyboard, the Tonalplexus, which I have not tried, but has over 200 key possibilities per octave 2/1).

[tetoviranje]

Awesome!! Please write a few more words regarding that tuning device and where can i purchase it. Also, if you are familiar with it, please tell me if the tuning device can be applied to any synthesizer or I need a special model... Thanks a lot!!!

[ElAlekz]

OMFG WHAT IS THAT SHIT!?!?! @0:09

[monstahz]

@ElAlekz a big kalimba

[MrPerson72]

@ElAlekz It's called an Array Mbira, about $2500, but very nice sounding.

[iluvvsmp2]

@ElAlekz LOL that made me laugh so hard

[SonicArtsGallery]

There are plenty of contrapuntal and harmonic relationships in 19. I'm still figuring them out. One tip is that the 7-limit tritone pair (7/5, and 10/7) are very useful as leading tones to the 3/2. They also make great bass lines, and can be thought of as dual identies with 11/8 and 16/11. Also try all 16 permutations (within the octave)of diminished chords, using the 7/6 and 6/5 as building blocks.

[XE1GXG]

A lot of time spent on explaining the mapping, but I still want to know about thecontrapuntal and harmonic implications.

[sonicartssandiego]

Thanks for the info Ron. We are rekeying two keyboards (DX 7's) at Sonic Arts now. One is white, white, black, and the other is white, black, all repeating. We would also like to know about other rekeying efforts, other than Elaine Walker?

[RSwordIAAA]

Have you thought about re-keying a Halberstadt keyboard to maybe Yasser or another layout?  It's fairly easy and if you don't want to do it elaine walker offers a re-keying service. Also it would be good to mention that with Scala, you can retune your regular MIDI keyboard this same way with the program online for free if you search "Scala Huygens" in google. You can make subsets out of any tuning (scala comes with examples already) and map them to your 12 board so it's octave repeating.

[TheTrackformer]

obama?

[hanzimaster]

how do you write the accidentals for 1/3 tones?

[sonicartssandiego]

@hanzimaster

The beautiful thing is that there is no need for notational change for thirds of tones. In 19= or Carlos Beta which is approx. 18 2/3 (non octave), a sharp is a sharp and a flat is a flat, so since there are two values for accidentals (only one in 12) you have, for instance C, C#, Db, and D. The only discrepancy is the area between B and C and E and F where you must make the choice between E# and Fb, or B# and Cb.

[simontist]

The Dude abides

[JLMoriart]

If you played this on an isomorphic keyboard you would have the same fingering in 12-edo as you would in 19-edo and not have to worry about mapping the 19 notes to a 12-note biased piano keyboard, which makes everything sooo much harder. I like the line "don't worry about what it is, use it because it's cool" though, and I'm also digging the array mbira =)

[Smoth15]

DALE VIEJO TOCA NO EXPLIQUES

[amcint01]

1,285 views. Guys like you are out there pushing the boundaries of the art and meanwhile Lady Gaga has the highest viewed videos on the web. Criminal.

[NavinJohnson90]

I like your style, Dude.

[Mobetaco]

What a beautiful sound!

Promulgen una Ley ke dicte ke todos los Instrumentos Musicales suenen en base a 19tET (EDO) y así erradicar de una vez por todas la PEKEÑA Escala Temperada de 12-tonos.

[PsiPhiCafe]

Are you the DUDE? .;p

Thank you for this demonstration!

[emphryio]

Thanks for posting this. I've made one song in 19tet but I'm not happy with the sound quality of what I was using. Might have to buy that from h pi.

[sevishmusic]

Excellent tutorial, I'm interested to see more videos on this subject. :) If you do more parts I'll be here watching them! Thank you.

Sean

[Tetrachordal]

Jonathan: I don't have any specific comments at this time. There were some comments on the Tuning List about terminology, but I think what you meant was clear-- that the 6/5 and 5/3 are very close to their just values. I hope you continue the series and include both traditional and non-traditional scales and harmonies. When you're done with the keyboard, how about a series on 19-tone guitar?

[fjferd]

The nineteenth harmonic (19/16) is almost the same as a 12ET minor 3rd. 297c vs 300c, pretty close. Just defending him on that one, but you are still right 19ET should be regarded as a cycle of pure minor 3rds (6/5). 315c vs 317c which is even closer.

[Tetrachordal]

Congratulations Jonathan for making these videos.! I'm looking forward to parts 2 and 3.

-John

[sonicartssandiego]

I would be interest in any specific comments you might have. I am planning to continue this series if I get enough feedback.