your patterns at 40 yards are horrible with all the loads. Especially for shooting a mod choke. I'd take take that Kicks choke and throw it right the hell into the garbage.
Blind side is not worth the extra money its no better then cheap steel. And same goes for Black cloud they are over priced and dont pattern no better the regular federa. So save your money and just get the cheap stuff but dont buy estate shells they suck.
i have a couple chokes that are probably over 10 years old, do u think that they could handle steel shot or would i be better off just buyin a new choke?
@deathfrets those chokes will be fine, steel doesn't deform like lead does, so it's est to use a Modified or if you want to use a full choke look for chokes that say FULL STEEL. I shot steel shot out of a LEAD FULL choke one time and it bulged my barrel. P.S. don't be afraid o ask questions.
Great video! Every year I buy 1 box of the latest and greatest waterfowl loads to try out on opening day! Thanks for taking the time to make a video and review them all! Your video has helped me out tremendously! Thanks!
Each gun/Choke will respond differently, or rather that is what I have realized, my 1187 throws a better pattern with Remington Hi-speed Sportsman Rounds than anything else but my A400 Xtreme shoots Blind Sides with a Kicks Modified high flyer than any other. and it took me a long time and a lot of money to find that out.
Blind side is the best to me hevey mettle was good to but black cloud is not good at all I used it and it up agisnt Winchester and I hit every duck I shot at with Winchester black cloud umm no a few feathers that was all Winchester shoot better
Steel shot is crap no matter the brand lol. I liked the 20 yard shots, but I think it would have been a little better if you would have used a full choke for the first round. Not knocking your way or anything man, you did me a favor with the 20 yrd shots. I dont have to go out and buy all thoughs loads and test em now. thanks for the info
I too have read that blackcloud ammo should not be shot with ported chokes, especially kicks high flier due to the wad being jammed into ports. Great comparison though. I agree with earlier posts, shooting from a stand would be extremely helpful.. THANKS!
I prefer you did this testing by shooting from a mount or table on some sand bags to ensure a steady point of aim and solid foundation. That would help eliminate shooter error such as flinching.
did you take a look at any of the spent hypersonic shells? i bought a box of em and they were a little too hot half of em blew the primer partially out on the box i shot.
I bought a case of Hevi Metal 3" 3's last year and was happy with how they performed. Through a Benelli Vinci with HeviShot MOD Choke if you put a good shot on them birds don't stand a chance. Also with the X-Full Hevishot choke tube you can reach out to 40-50 yards fairly consistently if you have the shooting ability/willingness to waste $1+ per shell
I know they make a "black cloud" choke and I was under the impression that it was extended but I may be wrong? Everyone I know that's shot those did so out of a stock choke or patternmaster with no issues. Went out yesterday and I liked the hevi metal a lot.
Thanks for the comparison. I just picked up a couple boxes of Blindside myself. I thought it wasn't good to shoot Blackcloud through a extended choke tube like Kicks or Patternmaster??
your patterns at 40 yards are horrible with all the loads. Especially for shooting a mod choke. I'd take take that Kicks choke and throw it right the hell into the garbage.
embertrent 4 days ago
Blind side is not worth the extra money its no better then cheap steel. And same goes for Black cloud they are over priced and dont pattern no better the regular federa. So save your money and just get the cheap stuff but dont buy estate shells they suck.
Drjay283 6 days ago
that black cloud destory's.... black cloud punched a 2 inch hole! mean!!!
abax2011 6 days ago
they naw make a blind side spechailty choke to
youthunter 2 weeks ago
i have a couple chokes that are probably over 10 years old, do u think that they could handle steel shot or would i be better off just buyin a new choke?
deathfrets 2 weeks ago
@deathfrets those chokes will be fine, steel doesn't deform like lead does, so it's est to use a Modified or if you want to use a full choke look for chokes that say FULL STEEL. I shot steel shot out of a LEAD FULL choke one time and it bulged my barrel. P.S. don't be afraid o ask questions.
stub112 1 week ago
Great video! Every year I buy 1 box of the latest and greatest waterfowl loads to try out on opening day! Thanks for taking the time to make a video and review them all! Your video has helped me out tremendously! Thanks!
bm5447 3 weeks ago
that chunk is probably from the wad on the black cloud i had a blue bill with the wad right below its breast when i picked it up
RWRiverRat 1 month ago
Blindside, 20 yards at 4:55
Heavy Metal. 20 yards at 5:40
Both solid patterns. Have you thought about Kent Fasteel?
FIUDave 1 month ago
Each gun/Choke will respond differently, or rather that is what I have realized, my 1187 throws a better pattern with Remington Hi-speed Sportsman Rounds than anything else but my A400 Xtreme shoots Blind Sides with a Kicks Modified high flyer than any other. and it took me a long time and a lot of money to find that out.
twinturbocobra 1 month ago
black cloud with black cloud choke tubes gives you more out of a black cloud shot
iamRehabnK 1 month ago
Nice truck
trucksducksbucks94 1 month ago
I had to laugh!!! Right before you shot the Remington Hypersonic I said...."that stuff kicks like a mule" and then you said it. Good laugh.
Auck40 1 month ago
Blind side is the best to me hevey mettle was good to but black cloud is not good at all I used it and it up agisnt Winchester and I hit every duck I shot at with Winchester black cloud umm no a few feathers that was all Winchester shoot better
Nuthinbutecho270 2 months ago
@ 7:07 when he shoots u can see the shock wave on the ground 3 feet from shotgun
skateboy159 2 months ago
hey try carson balck cloud mid randge choke tube them do a test with all these the chk is unbeleviable good!!!
livinlov 2 months ago
Steel shot is crap no matter the brand lol. I liked the 20 yard shots, but I think it would have been a little better if you would have used a full choke for the first round. Not knocking your way or anything man, you did me a favor with the 20 yrd shots. I dont have to go out and buy all thoughs loads and test em now. thanks for the info
11488jlowery 2 months ago
I too have read that blackcloud ammo should not be shot with ported chokes, especially kicks high flier due to the wad being jammed into ports. Great comparison though. I agree with earlier posts, shooting from a stand would be extremely helpful.. THANKS!
alc5y 2 months ago
I prefer you did this testing by shooting from a mount or table on some sand bags to ensure a steady point of aim and solid foundation. That would help eliminate shooter error such as flinching.
triton338 2 months ago
i want to see someone review the black cloud choke tube its supposed to be devastating
citalopram40mg 3 months ago
can you name off the shells from least to most recoil
borirad 3 months ago 2
@borirad they all are about the same except the hypersonics,they thump ya a tad harder,but for 1700 fps they have to.
snopro176 3 months ago
havent noticed any of that? ill definitely keep an eye out
snopro176 3 months ago
did you take a look at any of the spent hypersonic shells? i bought a box of em and they were a little too hot half of em blew the primer partially out on the box i shot.
campusgolfchamp 3 months ago
I bought a case of Hevi Metal 3" 3's last year and was happy with how they performed. Through a Benelli Vinci with HeviShot MOD Choke if you put a good shot on them birds don't stand a chance. Also with the X-Full Hevishot choke tube you can reach out to 40-50 yards fairly consistently if you have the shooting ability/willingness to waste $1+ per shell
mad23s 3 months ago
I know they make a "black cloud" choke and I was under the impression that it was extended but I may be wrong? Everyone I know that's shot those did so out of a stock choke or patternmaster with no issues. Went out yesterday and I liked the hevi metal a lot.
snopro176 3 months ago
Thanks for the comparison. I just picked up a couple boxes of Blindside myself. I thought it wasn't good to shoot Blackcloud through a extended choke tube like Kicks or Patternmaster??
texaz2006 3 months ago
@texaz2006 ive heard that too or any ported tube for that matter since the wad opens backwards the ports take chunks out of the plastic
campusgolfchamp 3 months ago
Thanks!
purefishingownz 3 months ago
thats hole with the 20 yard backcloud shot is the wad
alextm33 3 months ago