Home Defense Shotgun: Mossberg 500 Field/Security Combo

[beretta999y]

Got my 500 for 100$ with 3 barrels slug barrel feild barrel and a 181/2 barrel

[jesusonXTC]

Oh my good its tommy cheech!!

[s2srea]

Question: Can you buy a security conversion for any mossberg 500? Or was this specific model designed to be able to be changed?

[thenewsurvivalist]

@s2srea Yes you can buy this for your Mossberg 500.

[s2srea]

@thenewsurvivalist

Thanks! I just picked one up!

Great videos by the way!

[willklll4food]

Such a laid back dude, anyway, great shotgun! I own the same model, works great, I even got the chance to use it for home defense :) needless to say they were scared shitless when they heard it, i didn't call the cops though, i just told them (they were kids, so i didn't shoot em) if I ever saw them trespassing on my property again, i'd bury 'em by the fence.... Haven't seen them ever since

[joeyblaze87]

I got a video of one of these on my page. I love it! Great gun

[Pfletch83]

And yes even with a shotgun you still have to aim.

At close ranges the shot pellets won't be spread out very much if any.

[bigguyprepper]

I only have 1 question. can i mont some sort of sights like ghost ring or some kind of rear sight

[thenewsurvivalist]

@bigguyprepper This shotgun already has a bead site. But I guess you can mount whatever you want. Since making this video I have actually mounted a laser pointer on one of the rails (and a flashlight on another.)

[kalegreenwood13]

I just got the same gun but mine has a22" barrel what choke should I use?

[TheOREGON1859]

That cat tail made me laugh

[KCJbomberFTW]

Haha kitty in the back :D

[funkyzero]

bah...

Buy an old beat up 870 or just wait like the rest of us for the KSG to come out.

[Terruhcutta]

Isn't it fair to say although you can shoot 5 shots from a pump while only 2 from a SxS that if the fight does indeed require more than 2 shots it is easier to load a SxS and keep firing vs reloading a pump which will take far longer, and in an emergency you might just load 1 at a time to keep the bullets firing? just a thought

[thenewsurvivalist]

@Terruhcutta There are advantages and disadvantages to every type of firearm. Personally, I'd rather have 5 or 6 (one in chamber) shots that I can get off quickly rather than only two and my opinion is that I can get another two or more shells loaded and chambered in the same time it takes you to break your side by side open, reload, close and cocked. Not to mention that a side by side is far heavier. But if that is what works best for you then go for it. I've got no problem with that.

[Terruhcutta]

@thenewsurvivalist Very true, Ive been going back on forth on this for a long time, there is nothing like the look of a 20" double barrel shotgun, not to mention the ease for other family members to use. However having another 5 shots is not something to snuff at. Oh decision desicions! haha

[gmaster45612374]

You don't have to hold it from the hip and "just aiming in the general direction" is a myth. You won't get much spread indoors. Your better off aiming the weapon like you have a slug.

[daweiwang88]

can you please provide the link to the tri-rail you bought? I'm thinking of buying the same.

[thenewsurvivalist]

@daweiwang88 amazon

[OfficialMixture]

Hey Survival Doc, Love your vids. Have you considered the bungee cord Idea ?

[thenewsurvivalist]

@OfficialMixture I don't know what the bungee cord idea is.

[OfficialMixture]

@thenewsurvivalist Its a very simple idea the special forces use when searching buildings. Elastic bungee sling tied around the butt and barrel of the gun. Goes over your head and shoulder. When using your hands it holds the gun firmly against the body but stretches and doesn't effect shooting ability. You then have the option of a secondary weapon attached to the lower leg. Maybe a knife in case you end up wrestling. Maybe a hand gun in case the primary weapon fails. (Very easy to make)

[toogawn]

Survival Doc Thanks for this video,hopefully responsible persons that are not armed will head your video & the Mossburg 500 combo is an excellent choice.

..I do have one comment, your premise that you don't have to aim a shotgun is wrong.Even though the shot pattern of a sg is larger then say a pistol round, it does not put out a big enough pattern to just aim in a general direction to hit something. You might want to check into another stance,there are vids up here on YT on this subject.

[thenewsurvivalist]

@toogawn I used a poor choice of words when I said it didn't have to be aimed. I should have said it didn't have to be aimed as precisely as a pistol. The assumption is that this shotgun will be used in close quarters in the confines of your home, in which you will be close enough to your target to simply point it at your target. BTW, in addition to the flash light I have installed a laser pointer on the tri-rail as well.

[toogawn]

@thenewsurvivalist  Got ya, makes sense about a close quarter situation.

Thumbs up on the laser, when they first came out some twenty yrs ago I thought that they were a hindrance to aiming a weapon and actually thought I would never want or use one. I started using one on my ccw daily carry about two years ago,I'm now sold on it. I can actually acquire my target much faster now that I have had a chance to practice with one. I'm not sure if it's my older eye's but they just seem to work.

[Javis586]

1:27 ... what the fuck is that behind you?

[thenewsurvivalist]

@Javis586 My survivalist mouse trap (a cat.)

[Javis586]

@thenewsurvivalist Ohhhh it was a tail lmao I thought it was like an anorexic goose or something.

[breakneck14]

The Mossberg isn't bad...but I highly prefer the Saiga for home defense.

There isn't any pumping, just trigger pulling. I put rails & a foregrip on mine.

I didn't put a light on mine because I would rather not let the intruder know I'm coming and give them a heads up.

Also I would never carry my shotgun at my hip & fire. It is a shotgun yes, but you have little controllable aim / recoil this way. I carry mine in a low ready position where it can be controlled and aimed with no problems.

[toogawn]

@breakneck14 I thought the exact same thing before buying my Saiga 12 sporter and taking the time to changing it back to what Kalashnikov intended (an ak rifle with a hand grip-922r compliant of course) and after seeing all those moving parts that could fail me in the middle of the night. I have decided to leave my good old pump shot gun right where it is next to my bed and relegated my Saiga 12 for shtf detail..other then when I'm half a sleep and might not have the dexterity to clear a jam.

[breakneck14]

@toogawn Seriously? What moving parts are you talking about? The AK based Saiga 12 gauge is an extremely simple weapon....one of the simpliest designs for a firearm.

You take the safety off and pull the trigger again & again.

As far as jams, if you're Saiga is jamming you have not researched enough into the proper shotgun ammo or haven't upgraded it to shoot low grade brass.

[toogawn]

@breakneck14 The fact is if you leave 12 ga. rounds in a full magazine for any length of time, they have a tendency to oval out..No longer fitting in the chamber...causing a jamb! Look, if your willing to risk your life on a rifle that was not designed to even fire this round, all the power to you. I have stated my reasons not to even though I built the weapon and believe to be reliable..I don't believe it's as reliable as my Remington 870 or mossberg 500 that go bang every time with all ammo.

[breakneck14]

@toogawn None of the jamming occurs at all if you properly maintain the firearm.

Saying the Saiga 12 wasn't designed to fire a 12 gauge round is idiocy. It started with the AK and they designed it with different parts to shoot shotgun shells.

It shoots faster than a pump shotgun, with more ease.

[toogawn]

@breakneck14 What does "a properly maintained firearm" have to do with ovaling of stored shotgun shells loaded in a magazine...not feeding into a barrel?

[breakneck14]

@toogawn I'll tell you, if you're properly maintaining your firearm, you won't have ammo sitting in the firearm so long that it becomes in a state that it cannot be fired properly......

[toogawn]

@breakneck14 You are serious when you "tell me" I to have to rotate my 12 gauge rounds??!!! REALLY?!

..Is that every week? Every month? I have arms that have had ammo in them continuously longer then you have been able to own a gun legally, with no ill affects what so ever.

..Also I could care less if you get more rounds off with your Saiga. More is not always better, especially when firing a weapon in your house at night. Placement of said rounds is one hell of a lot more important!

[sndnfry]

The Mossberg combo is an excellent home defense option, arguably THE best all around option. Thanks for the demonstration. I've got my eye on a Saiga 12. But then, I'm going to get some funny looks out bird hunting with that thing...

[desirefirst]

thought about a 410 for the home but there are so many more shell options, including various less than lethal, with the 12 so that's what i'm looking to get

[kevinwildcelt]

I have had a Mossberg 500 since I was a 14 & have bought my son one as well. It is our first grab weapon. I do not recomend using a pistol grip, I have done so and while I am large to handle the recoil I found the loss of accuracy not worth the conveneince. I also have a 24" slug barrel w/pop up sights. I added sling mounts to ours, I carry 5 rounds in the gun, 5 in a flexible butt stock holder, 5 more on the sling. I only use #7 bird shot indoors to stop over penetration of the house walls.

[FriendofCat]

Do a video of shooting your short shotgun at targets at 15 yards or less. That is about the max distance in my house that I could take a shot.

[FriendofCat]

Do a video of shooting your short shotgun at targets at 15 yards or less. That is about the max distance in my house that I could take a shot.

[BOXMAN666666666]

GENTLEMAN please I must disagree and say a double barrel shotgun with a sawed off grip and barrel like the one mad max uses only id modify it slightly more

[TheMrsVolfie]

Doc..when did you grow a tail?

and when did you start growing back you beard...not sure Canadian can getthe options of pistol grip and shorter barrel..

[FuriousPixel]

@TheMrsVolfie

Yes we can.

[JP5466]

I have the 590... 9 shots and I love it, but the barrel still seems quite long. I need a shotgun with a smaller barrel for close quarters.

[OfficialMixture]

You could do with a rubber bungee cord attached to the gun.

 If you need to use your hands, even to open a door your gun will be safely pressed against your body.

[OfficialMixture]

The British SAS use the torch light tactic for clearing out buildings. Iranian embassy siege for example. If the special forces use them you can bet they work well. They also use a rubber bungee cord so that the gun gets held tightly against your chest when you need to use your hands. They have a secondary weapon strapped to the lower leg. incase the primary weapon fails. A knife would work well for home defense, just incase you end up wrestling.

[jlcyamaha]

@OfficialMixture just remember, its not uncomon in fact most injuries are caused by someone takeing your weapon and using it against you.

[erfrye]

fast growing beard

[TheBigpunn421]

hahahaah to guy who said 410 is just as good as 12ga up close. hahahaha so less mass is better? lol and less powder? lol less projectials? lol 410 sucks unless your going backpacking and looking to save weight and carry more ammo. also the mossburg is nice becasue of safety position but the rem 870 is by far the better of the two. its built better and is military used. the 500 isnt

best upgrade for home defense is, extended tube to hold ammo, and folding stock with pistol grip then sights

[thenewsurvivalist]

@SurvivingSTL The light is mostly to identify who you are shooting and whether or not he poses a threat. You wouldn't want to make the mistake of shooting a family member or a friend of a family member. Also shooting someone who is not a threat (no weapon and not charging you in a threatening way) will probably wind you up in court and possibly costing you megabucks in a wrongful death suit. It happens all the time.

[Slepho]

love the cats tail that pops up lol

[NAGGERNUTZ]

If I were going to recommend a home defense shotgun, I'd have to go with the Winchester SXP Pump Defender. Just an all around great gun and a great price too. 12 gauge, 18 inch barrel, open choke, black composite stock and slide. Handles slugs and buckshot. I had some late season watermelons and summer squash that I used for target practice. Using Olin military grade 00 buckshot, I made fruit salad with one shot, from about 20 yards away.

[StatenIslandPrepper]

I disagree the .410 is the second most popular gauge shotgun shell out there. And at close range as in a house the .410 will he just as effective as the 12 gauge. Remember that a 5 ft 110 lb women will be less rattled by a .410 that a 12 gauge. And be able to withstand the recoil better. And at the average in house range of 5-15 feet the .410 and 12 g. will have about the same pattern.

As a paramedic for 28 years I can definitively say the damage from either will be devastating .

[thenewsurvivalist]

@StatenIslandPrepper So where is your disagreement? I said the 410 is an option for women. Being the 2nd most popular shell out there is not the same as being the 1st. The 410 is a distant 2nd from the 12 gauge, which is by far the most common by a huge lead. But my reason for recommending the 12 gauge was its versatility as a hunting gun as well. I wasn't clear on this in the video. As a prepper, I assumed that the viewer was looking for the 1 shotgun to do it all & having a versatile gun is #1

[tennesseecoin]

@StatenIslandPrepper I dont know what type .410 your shooting but I have several they all kick much harder than any 12ga. I own

Buy the woman and kids a .20 Gauge ammo is half the price and recoil is half that of .410

[StatenIslandPrepper]

@tennesseecoin Thank you I will!!

[northeastgaprepper]

@tennesseecoin you have no idea what you are talking about....the .410 has virtually no recoil...it is the .22lr of the shotgun world...and .410 is about half the size and powder load of 12 or even 20 gauge

[tennesseecoin]

@northeastgaprepper Very obvious you have not been around shotguns much I told you I own many .410 shotguns. I have a .410 that has more recoil than my .300 win mag you will not shoot it with a t-shirt on. I realize .410 has always been labeled a kids gun, but recoil is what matters to woman and kids and .410s almost always have much more recoil than a .12 gauge the shells are longer and they usually are full choke. Dont tell me I dont know what i am talking about I have shot thousands of rounds

[northeastgaprepper]

@tennesseecoin I've been shooting shotguns all my life...410s included...if you are claiming a 410 has more recoil than a 12 gauge then you have NEVER shot either one...I am now convinced that you are just a kid that thinks because 410 is a higher number than 12 that it must be more powerful...lol...and because of this I won't continue this conversation any further...and if by chance if i'm wrong about u and u aren't a kid...make a vid showing this magical 410 with more recoil than a 300 win mag

[maltman4101]

Great vid! Research I have done for ammo is a #1 shot is best for home defense...JMO

[panzer4u]

As always an informative vid.Thank you. Is it strange that I got nervous when you pointed it towards the camera?:)

[PestControl02]

nice man..I love the mossy 500

[colemilla14]

im thinking about turning my remington 870 pump into a tactical/home defence shot gun. Great vid Doc!!!!

[cbr6864]

for the money I prefer the maverick 88 AKA mexican mossberg they are assembled in the great state of Texas. 

[stuzapusa]

Great vid. Thanks...

[sugerbear520]

nice

[LosAngelesWeedSmoker]

You remind me of a humble hippie, and a vicious lion put in one.... manimal!

[agun17]

Damn you grow your beard fast!

[jwdhome2]

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[1789000]

great video...

[Richardofdanbury]

I agree Mossburg is best for the money. I got a 12 gauge for me and a 20 for the wife.

[captquest1]

I like my persuader with the short barrel, I prefer a stock to pistol grip. That's a nice combo for some one that hunts as well.

[lpdavisakgto]

I prefer adjustable or folder

[Solon6633]

was that a snake?

[Thatguyoverthere44]

That pistol grip is one nifty attachment.

[lpdavisakgto]

Not a pistol grip fan even in a home but nice video

[biddycy]

please get a new intro

[FishizzleBoy]

1:25 Ninja cat tail is ninja!

[Stonehombre1]

Nice job on the video. I have a Remington 870 set up in a similar fashion.

Keep up the good work.

[missouriprepper]

nice Video the ability to have two diffrent shotgun's is a great idea. Is this an older video or are ya growing the beard back?

[thenewsurvivalist]

@missouriprepper Shot the video this very day.

[ThePauperPrepper]

@missouriprepper Same exact question I had. Please Doc, say it aint so!!!

[ZJayStudio]

I think the full wooden stock looks better than the pistol grip in my opinion.

[thenewsurvivalist]

@ZJayStudio It isn't a matter of looks. It's a matter of function. It depends on what you are going to use the shotgun for. The pistol grip is more practical for home defense because it is more easily maneuverable in close quarters, like in a home. I will put the wooden stock back on when I take it into the field for hunting or skeet shooting.

[ZJayStudio]

@thenewsurvivalist Yeah when I look back at my comment I see where I said something that didn't really matter but I have to say Doc thanks for making the videos and keep up the good work.

[fmsracing442]

@thenewsurvivalist I respectfully disagree with using a pistol grip for home defense. I have used a shotgun for room clearing in Iraq and the military uses a full length stock. The reason is, follow-up shots are going to be much slower and less accurate with the pistol grip. Also, you are completely wrong about aiming a shotgun. Most close quarter shots will be 20' or less and at that range the shot pattern will be 8"-10" diameter and with your heart pumping, you will miss if you don't aim.