Concepts = Emptiness in words - Mooji London Satsang 7

[writing314]

id have2 say it was also suffering that led me to this stillness and peace, now i want to help people who i useto be jealous of because it seemed they have it all, but now i see they are trapped in false comfort a lot of the time but i dont think suffering is the only way into self realisation or whatever this is called that i feel, whatever it is it has always been here i know this much

[ruzickaw]

word, words , incoherent words-

[Agiantamongu]

peace!!!

[mrcuteblackie]

do these advaita cocepts lead to true happiness? Does the understanding of emptines lead to happiness? True happiness? Or should I simply give my life to Christ? Are these escape mechanisms?

[08keswick]

Christ is not a person.

[guruu13]

@mrcuteblackie it leads to great, great happiness

[guruu13]

@mrcuteblackie giving your life to Christ and giving your life to your being, they are the same thing. Your consciousness IS Christ consciousness. So go ahead and give your life to Christ, as long as that doesn't carry any connotations of the church or dogma...try not to think of these as "advaita concepts." We can always put labels on people but that only serves to distort what they're saying.

[missreggae1luv]

The greatest difficulty in spiritual work is being strong where we or others might be negligent...going through that refiner's fire.

[moana2222]

There is so much heart here. So much heart.

[Ray2DeepGilmore]

That is like saying the word means nothing. Only what is meant by it.

[JoseProkof]

Don't try to convince anybody about this. No words are going to change anybody. Politicians, advertisiments, publicity, they have to get to you and convince you, cause they need you, your money, your vote. Self-realization doesn't need to sell you anything. You go to it, not because you heard some words, because you suffered a lot. Ultimately, suffering and not words will take you to search for the truth. Drop the words, forget philosophical discussion to prove egos.

[MidnightDC696969]

well said

[Diazt3r]

@JoseProkof couldn't have said it any better

[McmullenEJ]

@JoseProkof im gettin tired of this "coming from suffering``

actually i com from a place no one knows but where i can smoke

as much weed as i want to prove any point i want or not.

the only suffering i ever knew was my mind already knowing

all of wat it might have to do in advance. but thats not really suffering.

its just pure

hardcorism. :)

[thoughtbridge]

.org

[jimanHK]

great as always,deep respect

[arnesonj25]

When i say this I am not joking or trying to be funny, but when i get stoned I seem to fall into the witness alot easier and have these incredible insights why is this?

[levont]

you should try mushrooms

[DontFearNeoIsHere]

Mushrooms are sacred. Respect it.

Don't take it and try to control it.

Allow what it brings up.

Love what you see.

You'll have a great experience you'll remember forever.

[HYPNOSISWORKS123]

Because it draws your attention into what is felt presently, rather than "thinkng".

[HydrOxyBoost]

Next time when you have these incredible insights, make a tape recording of them and then lissten to them when you are not stoned.

If they still seam incredible than they are incredible.

If they seam like idiotic and erronious, than they are erronious.

It could happen either way.

The human mind is missfireing under the influace of some drugs.

And some other drugs it gets totaly shut down.

Shutting down the mind will bring you the REAL insights.

[jtram21]

"ordinary" everyday consciousness already contains the miracle of enlightenment that the sages speak of. the danger of using drugs is that the mind often concludes: "The experience that I have when using _______ is better OR closer to what is real than This (the sober reality)." The mind can become attached to 'pleasant experiences' or the filtered version of reality (no-mind) as if these are somehow closer to the imagined goal of spiritual realization than ordinary everyday consciousness.

[jtram21]

See Mooji's videos "Spiritual Carrot" and "Ultimate Experience."

[jtram21]

And Mooji's "Bliss vs. Emptiness"

[Seedr0]

I do not do drugs because it is better, I do drugs because it is different. To refuse a non-violent teaching tool is as ignorant as refusing this video as a teaching tool.

It's also pleasant and separate from sobriety is it not?

All non-violent experience is worthwhile to bring to your meditative state, to challenge consciousness.

[Wulfgar12]

I agree.. system of a down did this frequently without any harm..

intelligent people can use it!:)

[mesa134]

good luck i was trapped there for awhile ..chasing after experience its rubbish cause that keeps you from being free..You're already free that which you mention are mere mind play dont worry bout it .Cause now is all there really is there is nothing to get or achieve

[Seedr0]

Do you see how you contradicted yourself? Even you typing that message is experience. Whatever you use to justify your right to type that message is the same thing I can use to justify me doing drugs (or any other non-violent experience).

One of these experiences just happens to be socially accepted.

[mesa134]

Not stopping you from takin drugs infact i do it sometimes .

Yeah your right typing is an experience too whatever the experience it comes and they go ..im just sayin while they're cool i wouldn't invest anything in them

[mesa134]

Ok maybe sometimes i do invest in them(contridicting my self here) But common you dont need no drugs or any meditation to be awaken

[Wulfgar12]

Mooji says: Experience happens

Not needing to Chase after them

they still happen to you no matter what you do

or not do

staying as awareness allows slaying of experience through bliss sharply cutting the edge ,of experience, through a immense view called "father" because it has a feeling of superiority compared to "you" Ego" not better, but bigger.

Thats why Im scared as shit of Awareness or "It"

but "it" is me:-) hehe

so I can't really do anything about "me" realising the "It" ive seenit

[mesa134]

Actually thats what i was pointing..He said he uses drugs and meditation..I love them both too but you don't need any of these experiences...To be in this bliss

[Wulfgar12]

I know:-)

hehe, I actually looked through my eyes of depression today, and I saw sadness.

But then I saw a woman and a dog walk towards me, and my first response was "avoid it, leave me alone, im sad dont bother me". but... That woman with her dog, is actually just another form of me... so I laughed when I saw her, realising it could be the one who I was depressed for or over, who was walking towards me, and I was obviously, busy being negative, so i would just keep my depression up...

[Wulfgar12]

If i would allow my self to deny other forms

in favor of a different form wich was better positively or negatively.

[mesa134]

Lol well i just used some drugs the other day its a beautiful pointer to truth but dont get caught up in pointers ..I think your partly depressed due to overuse of the drug? but i dont know you or your situation if your truly depress..try for a moment and first allow it(feel it throughout your body take a deep breath and relax) then ask yourself to who is this depression happening too? when you sense that it is happenin to a thought then chances are you will be alot better take care ..Namaste

[Wulfgar12]

never drugs.

except the normal ones (like computer or tv)

and even those Im on my way to get off the hook.

Im just

on the path to realization and that means,

every single thing in my life I can perceive is not me. Including those things I dont want to let go of...

so its painful but grace as mooji says.

[mesa134]

namaste..good news you dont have to let go of anything you never had it in the first place if the thing your letting go off was fun or sad its just an experience nothing else..in that case keep it! why let go of anything since its absolutely nothing at all but an experience and really cant touch you even if it tried its very best to make you not realize or make you unawaken let it soo what! then be unawaken or unrealized but Its very small in comparison to what you "already" are

[visionmessenger]

i love your satsangs

do you have a possibility to come to >germany>?

would love to organize something for you in Cologne..love.................

[Boddylotion1]

kukuk, i think he is also talking about his own concepts... its unhonest, but who ist not ;-)^^!

[Boddylotion1]

huhu there is no teaching^^

[jakkopa]

very honest teaching, straight to the point, thank you for sharing

[rwendorf1940]

mooji is so continually sweet and clear so easy to be immediately IN LOVE with him/Him robert wendorf

[klauskonzett]

The shadow does not move the body

The bodoy does not move the thaught

The thougt does not move the source

but from source from silence from nothingness allmovements arrise

[klauskonzett]

Thank you