As the air would gradually lose its compression in the tanks over km, what would be the results in performance as far as trying to increase speed when one is driving slowly but wants to suddenly wants to go faster?
@birillotyilly This concept reminds me of an Anime movie called "Steam Boy". It is all about how much pressure can be stored in that "steam ball" and how much soon you need to replenish it. In the movie, the energy supply seems endless. But in real life, its applications are limited. Check out part 2 of this video, using it inside a market is more realistic than using it on the road.
Part 1: believe me or not 12 years ago (when i was 11 years old) i actually came up with the concept of this idea. i remember going to a car repair shop and seeing a drill with a hose attached to it. i asked how it worked they said compressed air. i was amazed and could not stop thinking about it then said to my self "if compressed air can turn a drill it can turn a wheel" and drew up a car that had a compressed air tank and 4 motors to turn each wheel with hoses connecting to it to the tank.
Part 2: i was so impressed with myself i ran to show my mother all happy and shit like any other 11 year old. and she shrugged me off like any other mother would with a kid with a crazy imagination. i forgot all about the drawing and about 5 or 6 years latter my mother came to me saying look whats on tv i fell apart, with anger and sadness to see my childhood idea to be stolen. but realized others probably thought of it before me but it proved to me that maybe my crazy ideas went all that stupid
@dustin741 And if you'd spent 60 seconds on google you would have known this is an ancient idea and has been floated every 10 years or so since the 1890's. unfortunately because of simple physical laws it is doomed to always be a short range low power parking lot crawler. Check out the Museum of Retrotech
@fizzguts thanks for the info when i came up with the idea i thought i was the only one to think about it. IDK when i was young i was always thinking of new inventions like drawing a bendable trash bin that can fit between tight spots. i also remember taking a palm pilot screen protector cutting it the shape of my lenses and putting it on my glasses to stop scratches but everything was blurry, i also took a used up glue stick and shoved bar soap in it for some reason, i was a crazy kid
THis car could save the planet from the path of destruction that we're on, and 10 of the 12 comments on this page are about the difference in the pronunciation of friggin Aluminium.
@cplai THANKS for the lead! I love the variation in this often-bizarre language. And though American, I prefer the British spellings of many words, such as "metre" and "labour", it just feels classier, though I prefer the zed in American English's "organization".
One problem. Where does the energy come from to compress the air in the first place?
It's just like the plug-in electric car farce, the electricity from your wall outlet is 50%+ from burning coal (in the USA), and about 80% nuclear (France). Unless solar/wind/tidal are harnessed as the primary energy source, all these things are unfortunately folly.
@Snoep76239 I totally agree with you. All these clean cars are only as clean as their energy source. However, centralized energy production has a better potential to be made cleaner and more efficient than having each car burns its own fuel.
This is a great invention and a great concept. A car that works with AIR and does not pollute the environment like the GASOLINE cars that damage our air every day non stop. But there is only one problem. The Government who don't give a %u%# about people won't allow this. They only care about $ and everyone knows that is the truth. They don't care for helping the environment at all.
@hpdragon723 Can't you read? I mean it's obvious you can't do math or understand physics. It's a CON and has been since 1995. 5 mile range, 6 hour recharge & hideously inefficient.
There are thousands and thousands of inventions that have been suppressed by the Pentagon, the oil industry and the pharmaceutical industry to name but a few. Overall, a few greedy trillionaires have been suppressing human progress in order to maintain their power.
Just search the net for a while using key words like suppressed technology, tesla, zero point energy, anti-gravity etc. Fortunately, the Asians are starting to develop these technologies so the Pentagon will have to disclose the truth
@mikehanoo33 I'm so fucking angry with that right now... I can't even express how I feel!!! The progress we should be doing to make things easier is just being stolen from idiots who care not for us!!!
@BaronessFredericks Quote "I am trying to buy one now" Bwahahahahah! WELL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! Wise up kiddo they are on sale next year always next year. Send the money as a deposit and KISS IT GOODBYE
@TomMKG Yes they could got to work in this short range inefficient piece of crap if it was less than 5 miles away or they might learn how to turn off the caps lock.
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@englishvinal8 What happened? The usual. Con some technically ignorant dreamer to invest. Take the money never deliver anything as that would expose the CON demand more money. Move on to the next rich nitwit take a few deposits. Rinse and repeat
I think that a liquefied gas (such as Carbon Dioxide) would be better than compressed air as the liquid would have a much higher stored energy density than compressed air (lesser output than a gasoline powered motor).Of course the tank contained liquefied CO2 at room temperature would be at lower pressures (hence less hp) than those high pressure compressed air tanks.Another consideration would be liquefied Nitrogen although such a storage tank would have to have great pressure capabilities.
@m9078jk3 that's a really good point, but it's more expencive than to use only air. with air, you can simplify the trancfer of energy from source to road significantly, the source being, say a wind farm or something like that.
@m9078jk3 that's a really good point, but it's more expencive than to use only air. with air, you can simplify the transfer of energy from source to road significantly, the source being, say a wind farm or something like that.
its a nice toy but running a whole lot of compressors, cannot be more efficient. id buy one none the less. the only ones i can find are trapped in videos. id pay at least 20000 for this, assuming it has no heater or air con. just need to get a dive compresor for home, and why does it need to idle? from there engine vids you couldnt stall this, it is like a steam engine, surely no idle would be better all round.
its a nice toy but running a whole lot of compressors, cannot be more efficient. id buy one none the less. the only ones i can find are trapped in videos. id pay at least 20000 for this, assuming it has no heater or air con. just need to get a dive compresor for home,
Tommy Reed engine demonstration - Last week, Tommy Reed did a live demonstration on the SmartScarecrow show, using compressed air. The engine allegedly could be 85% efficiency compared to 35% for the best conventional internal combustion engines. (PESWiki; Jan. 28, 2010)-( ALL OF HIS YOUTUBE POSTS ARE NOW GONE !)
"Viktor Schauberger, Karl Schappeller, Nikola Tesla, Jim Lawson, Floyd Sweet, Stanley Meyer, John Bedini, Wilhelm Reich, Eugene Mallove, the Australian Joe Cell invention and many, many others - some of who have passed away without their devices being mass-produced and publicly developed, some of whose knowledge has become obfuscated by immense resistance, and some who have been bought off, threatened, received limited funds, suffered from laboratory sabotage and so on."
@ThatDifferentGuy "This will make the car much more efficient" Nope You completely misunderstand regenerative braking. Maximum range is achieved at a steady speed with no braking. If you go on a urban test cycle with lots of stops and starts this range will be MUCH shorter. Using regenerative braking gives about a 10% increase on this MUCH shorter range. As the best MDI have ever demonstrated is about 5 miles so the whole things a crock anyway.
@fizzguts In terms of oil or internal combuston engine alternatives this is technologically prehistoric. There are much more efficient methods such as a simple pure electric car, no hybrids. Where do we get this electricity to power the huge demand cause by electric cars especially without the need for batteries? Look up cold fusion and tesla's wardencliff experiment. It's very englightening.
Nobody can say that the implosion motor does not run off of any fuel. This really is a totally bogus statement for it is a known fact that the fuel source is normal breathable air and water. Using the moisture content helps pack the air molecules at the peripheral.
But let’s look at another source of potential power. For those of you who might have a copy of the Callum Coats book “The Energy Evolution” I am going to refer to page 44
“If specifically heavy high quality water is atomized and the resultant water vapor is compressed by a Descending Piston with a simultaneous infusion of atmospheric oxygen, then this aqueous mixture of air is instantaneously transformed into increased and highly potentiated stocks of new air. The expansive pressure produced in this way corresponds to the power of about 2,000 atmospheres per liter of water.” (2000 x 14.7 = 29,400 psi ) (1 Liter = .26 gal.)
Wolfhart Willimczik is another individual who like Rogers has efficient compressed air technology and has been suppressed. Physicist and inventor Wolfhart Willimczik has created a rotary piston machine without any bearings in the power train and with only rotating pistons.Other countries are reported to be using this technology in secret according to Wolfhart.
Of course, the Global Elite need the public at large to consider free-energy “crazy”. They want this “black op” technology as their secret weapon to use against us and they attack those who speak up. One example is well known pioneer of free energy research, John Hutchison. After he and Dr Judy Wood publicized their paper “Anomalies at the WTC and the Hutchison Effect”, Hutchison ran into problems with the Canadian authorities.
Google Rexresearch Negre over 10 years of broken promises documented Google e.volution south africa Lies from 2000 Google museum of retrotech Air cars are OLD tech Google Gast air motor Complete specs with consumption and power curves. Google Vencat 20 miles MDI ex USA distributor "theoretical" 20 mile range air only 5 times less efficient than an EV And you believe a youtube video. Want to buy a bridge?
Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic – and this we know it is, for certain – then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature." [Nikola Tesla]
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@CommonSensePeter The lazy sheep who have the engineering knowledge of a concrete lamp post deserve to be conned by air car scammers. The ability to reason is not a automatic gift it requires study and application, the sort of things drooling conspiracy kooks won't do
April 7, 2006 Wells Fargo Bank announced they finally invested $5 million of the $1 billion intended for renewable energy. Where did they invest? In a mutual fund: Carlyle/Riverstone Renewable Energy Infrastructure Fund I, L.P. Funny thing, who are the 3 largest stockholders of Carlyle Group? The answer in order of largest percentage owned. (source: Al Martin)
1. The Queen of England 2. Bush Family 3. Bin Laden Family
@CommonSensePeter >>> Indeed the fox is in charge of the hen house as they used to say , the big money boys have been playing dirty for many years , especially in the oil business , they have the game rigged , there is no way for alternative green fuels to make it to the 'free market' , look what they have done and continue to do to the electric car , they never get released and they are using inferior technology , the NIMH batteries were bought out by Chevron Texaco back in 2002 , 100 mi range
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@daswada9 I've got two better ideas bigger tyres on the rear so it always rolls downhill or a sprocket on the front axle and one on the back axle connected by a chain so the front wheels drive the back
Or you could talk to someone you trust who has an engineering or science background and they will explain Don't ask me to explain I'd just tell you your idea is mind bogglingly stupid ball crushingly idiotic
air tanks drives air engine, which moves car which rolls along, using a drive from a wheel to drive an alternator, to charge a battery, to run a compressor, which recharges the air tank, which drives the air engine, which moves the car, which..
Oh! Fuck!
Sigh Tards to the left, Fwits to the right, Cretins in the middle
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@daswada9 The engine uses fuel to rotate. Some of that power is used to turn the alternator, which generates electricity. Charging the battery uses energy.
Google "perpetual motion machine". People have already invented it. Unfortunately, just like your idea, they don't work.
Now if only the greenies knew how to make a car look good, and were business savvy enough to realize that it's just as important as being green in order for it to catch on.
The oil spill was a major turning point in Earth’s favor. The oil companies’ dominance in energy production has been drastically reduced as demands for alternate sources have soared. Soon you will see long-suppressed technologies coming into use for many purposes, from curing diseases and eradicating pollution to providing light and heat and transportation fuel.
Free energy labeled 'economic terrorism' - The widespread adoption of these new, non-polluting energy and propulsion systems will effectively replace the use of oil, gas, coal, nuclear power, impacting 4.5 trillion dollars a year in world economic activity, replace the current? geo-political order with one based on decentralized abundance. (Examiner; March 21, 2009)
@mikehanoo33 Compressed air is one of the least efficient means available to store energy. A significant part of the energy used to compress it is lost in the form of waste heat. When you use that air, it becomes cold, just like those dust blowers you buy at Office Max. When it cools like that, the pressure inside the tank drops until the temp returns to ambient.
I wonder if these guys are really that dim, or if it's just a deliberate lie.
This Negre guy should be behind bars for disseminating the lie that air cars are ecofriendly or even zero emission as he says.
A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh @300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 @ 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
Things are changing now. Governments/companies are investing in renewable but still using oil its a day by day slow step for change and this guy's engine will be profited from in the future the truth is OIL is draining up coming from a man whom live's in the middle east WE believe in change so should the world and you.
Oil is a pool thats being drained up now we got just a few years till its all done...
and those companies whom are the bigboys will dry up and leave :)
Boom San Agustin said... I tried, in 2004, to get some investors in my country to deal with MDI for the distribution of the Air Car here. The investors were very excited at first; but later, we had to stop. There were threats given to one of my investors to discontinue the venture and he feared for his life and his family's life. I don't know who did it; but I'm sure someone stood to lose a lot from this technology. December 28, 2008 6:51 PM
@mikehanoo33 "I tried, in 2004, to get some investors in my country to deal with MDI for the distribution of the Air Car here" then someone pointed out this was a CON and if you did the numbers their claims were impossible and had never been demonstrated.
The inventor is Guy Negre, a French motor vehicle engineer and former Formula One engine designer. He has apparently received death threats because of the invention, which could cripple the worlds oil industry.
Death Threats to Guy Negre, inventor of the air powered car
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Wheels 24 reports,"A car that could revolutionise the motor industry and which led to death threats against the designer will be unveiled at the Auto Africa show in Johannesburg next week."
The first successful application of the pneumatic motor in transportation was the Mekarski system air engine used in locomotives. Mekarski’s innovative engine overcame cooling that accompanies air compression by heating air in a small boiler prior to use. The Tramway de Nantes, located in Nantes, France, was noted for being the first to use Mekarki engines to power their fleet of locomotives. The tramway began operation on December 13, 1879 and continues to operate today;
@johnbevington 1 bar equals roughly 14.5 psi. So 300 bars equal roughly 150 times of 30 psi. So he assumes an average tire is pressurized to around 30 lb per square inch. (not 35 psi in your equation.)
@cplai Compressed air is one of the least efficient means available to store energy. A significant part of the energy used to compress it is lost in the form of waste heat. When you use that air, it becomes cold, just like those dust blowers you buy at Office Max. When it cools like that, the pressure inside the tank drops until the temp returns to ambient.
I wonder if these guys are really that dim, or if it's just a deliberate lie.
@cplai Compressed air is one of the least efficient means available to store energy. A significant part of the energy used to compress it is lost in the form of waste heat. When you use that air, it becomes cold, just like those dust blowers you buy at Office Max. When it cools like that, the pressure inside the tank drops until the temp returns to ambient.
I wonder if these guys are really that dim, or if it's just a deliberate lie.
This Negre guy should be behind bars for disseminating the lie that air cars are ecofriendly or even zero emission as he says.
A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh @300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 @ 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
@cplai Compressed air is one of the least efficient means available to store energy. A significant part of the energy used to compress it is lost in the form of waste heat. When you use that air, it becomes cold, just like those dust blowers you buy at Office Max. When it cools like that, the pressure inside the tank drops until the temp returns to ambient.
I wonder if these guys are really that dim, or if it's just a deliberate lie.
If the car was spray painted with a light sensitive polymer it could convert sunlight into electricity and charge the battery providing power for the air compressor to replace air in the storage tanks ready for the trip home each afternoon..
@MaxB6851 "If the car was spray painted with a light sensitive polymer" it would be about as useful as a chocolate tea pot. Do some numbers and stop being a twit
The term "air engine" disappeared from engineering textbooks after the 1930s and the second world war. Gas engines had been perfected, the oil industry was established, and gas was cheap.
Serious interest in air cars was rekindled by the energy glitches of the 1970s. Dozens of inventors have patented designs for hybrid, closed cycle, and self-fueling air cars, as well as conversions for existing engines and designs for air cars meant to stop at air stations for refueling.
Lets do the sums. Assume the tank is 2 mters long and 250 mm in diameter. This is about 98 Litres. Say the engine needs 60 PSI to work. (The same as the pressure in a combustion engine when the exhaust valve opens) If we start out with 3000 PSI in the tank, it is a 50:1 change so there must be 98 x 50 (60 PSI) units required. Take a 1 litre engine at 3000 rpm. It consumes 3000 litres every minute. We started out with 4909 (98x50) units so the engine will run for 1.6 minutes per tank.
@kiwiavi Some one who can use math. Yay! If you assume the engine exhausts to 100% then the final pressure is 14.7psi atmospheric and you have a crude maximum theoretical efficiency. They used to list swept volume, gearing and tyre size. With that max theoretical range was 20km. Claims of 200km. RIGHT plus MDI throw half the energy away as they use a pressure regulator to drop the tank pressure to about 200psi.
In 1934, 21-year-old Johannes Wardenier announced he developed the world’s first fuel-less automobile. For weeks Dutch newspapers reported of an incredible invention that would change the world for ever. Not long after that he was mysteriously imprisoned in a mental institution, his design for the engine was stolen and he was kept under constant guard and never allowed to see anyone.
Ok there does seem to be an elephant in the room. We could all carry on using normal engine cars if idiots would stop driving cars that have 4.0 or 5.0 litre engines there really is no need, maybe walk the half mile trip to the shop. Imagine a world with everyone just using what they need. There would be no war for oil ( call me what you want that's what it is! ) And there would be much less pollution. just a thought.
This engine has been touted for at least 40 years. Its a P.P.M. and its totally bogus. To get better gas mileage there are two ways to go. A steam engine where the water can be heated with any type of fuel. Two make the engine from aluminum and the rest of the car from aluminum or composite plastic to make it lightweight and thus get better gas mileage. If you want my professional opinion I am available for hire as a consultant.
@fattony252 "To get better gas mileage there are two ways to go. A steam engine where the water can be heated with any type of fuel"
Maybe but not currently. Unless you get the cycle efficiency up by using super critical pressures and temps (which has not been done in car sized units so far) burning gasoline in a steam car uses more fuel.
Light weighting a car improves mileage but only by a small % especially on flat constant speed runs.
These stupid engineers really think that the air car is any sort of a solution. These pitiful fools! It is certainly not as compressed air is the worst imaginable carrier of energy. Then u even better store energy in a battery. Of course, u can build a car on compressed air. Nothing easier than that
Well, not really a scam. These stupid engineers really think that the air car is any sort of a solution. These pitiful fools! It is certainly not as compressed air is the worst imaginable carrier of energy. Then u even better store energy in a battery. Of course, u can build a car on compressed air. Nothing easier than that. But the concept does not make sense at all. It is complete rubbish!!
Compressed air the worst and least efficient carrier of energy. A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh at 300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 at 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice. Most of the energy is dissipated as heat). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
What do you love about American cars??? None of the components an American is made of, would be used in a cheap European middle of the range car. We don't want to spoil cars in Europe.
i love american cars because my family has owned cars from multiple continents and the north american ones lasted the longest. they also have properly made engines, not like the little japanese ricers that have 2.0 l coca cola bottles and enough torque to maybe carry a passenger. European cars on the other hand are always in the repair shop. i know this because i work in one. Don't tell me american cars are bad until youve owned one
Well, whatever. The point for this video is that compressed air the worst and least efficient carrier of energy. A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh at 300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 at 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice. Most of the energy is dissipated as heat). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline.
@WislaKrakow24 Hey, I didn;t even make any serious calculation. What I said is actually is only common sense and the basics every engineer (should) know: basics of thermodynamiics. If u don't believe me, then u also can get a scientific evaluation of the compressed air car here: Google "Creutzig "economic and environmental evaluation of compressed air cars" "
Compressed air the worst and least efficient carrier of energy. A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh at 300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 at 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice. Most of the energy is dissipated as heat). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
"you can reduce the size by making a nitrogen filter"
Bwahahaha Failed physics at school did you?
You want to spend large amounts of energy by sieving out nitrogen before you compress it which wastes more energy to give you umm well actually no difference in stored energy.
There also was the EV1 in california. This actually made on the road, but General Motor only leased them (Tom Hanks and Mel Gibson had one). When the lease ended, they took it back without offering them to buy it. (Watch who killed the electric car.)
There is a cure for cancer (Run from the cure).
You can make everything from hemp and don't need oil or plastic anymore (Hemporium SA)
Oh and the aliens are coming. (Disclosure project 2001).
Hemp is WAY to expensive to make fuel or fabric from currently
Aliens are only believed in by tinfoil hat wearing kooks
Who killed the electric car was a piece of crap aimed at mouth breathers. Battery life &$ means electric vehicles while environmentally wonderful are economic suicide hence my comment
There are many forms of cancer some have cures, some don't. If you are implying my sister who will die of CML is missing out I'd love to find you and give you the same cancer.
PS if Guy negre dies suddenly .. it won't take a rocket scientist to figure out something was fishy They killed the electric car .ELECTROVAYA a company in Toronto Canada that has a battery made of plastic they call a superpolymer that is five times as powerful as it's closest lith ion rivals... I really wonder why the car is legal in europe but not legal in CANADA the country that makes the batteries ... oh and they also power spacesuits for NASA ...But no way could they be safe right ?
I think all you folks need to realize that this technology has been getting better by the minute and now this technology is ready for market. Try to get up to date and realize that there are plenty of other ways to make power , plenty of other means to generate electricity. Folks have been running on biodiesel, hho , pure electric , hybrids etc ...There is a worry about Peak oil , but with the change over to more sustainable technologies, we will be able solve our energy crisis
I think all you folks need to realize that this technology has been around for 100's of years, it has no potential to get any better and now this technology is only to empty the wallets of gullible technical illiterates
it seems to me that this would be a natural development of the old school steam engine. Just as you can run a steam engine on compressed air, I wonder if this would be an effective engine coupled with steam power.
Im reading some of theses comments for this video and all i can really say is that there are som negative thinking arse holes in this world,
the concept is a good idea, people dont seem to realise it is a technology that is just only starting out in,
in time they will figure out how to make a faster engine more powerful engine,
as for the cock who said the idea would use more energy, the air compressor used to fill the car would use the same amount of electric as a washing machine
MDI's own figures are the air car uses FIVE times more energy for the same distance compared to an electric car.
Google Vencat 20 miles
MDI's own figures say a 7kw air compressor has to run for 6 hours to recharge this POC.
The technology dates back to the 1900's
Google the Douglas Self website So as you have proved you don't know your arse from your elbow how about posting again so I can furthur take the piss out of you
im so so sure you are right, so il leave you on you little quest to prove that this is a con,
im sure that there are soooooo many people "cretins" out there that need to be shown this big burning light of yours,
go forth and lead the masses great one !!for you have been blessed by an unparalled scentific geniuss that us mear mortals could only dream of possessing
"you have been blessed by an unparalled scentific geniuss that us mear mortals could only dream of possessing"
Nope BUT I can use a spell & a grammar checker & I didn't sleep through the science classes at school. If you weren't so mind bogglingly lazy you could follow the links provided & study physics, in particular the ideal gas law.
Unfortunately that requires work and believers in crap videos about crap ideas on youtube won't do that.
if you must know i actually scored pretty well in science (grade B higher paper), also as your amazing observational skills will have deducted english wasnt my best subject,
i will admit my grammer is a weee bit rusty, however my grammer can be improved over time
but sadly for you you will always be an selfasured arrogent prick and no amount time and effort wil be able to rectorfy that,
you must spend a lot of time argueing with people on hear,
Hey stupid monkey, the tech is starting out??? This shit already existed in 18th century.
The concept is a good idea???? Why????? It causes much more CO2 emissions than any other car and you only can store as much energy as compressed air to get a range of 8 km??? So what's good at the idea????
The MDI air car shown in these videos has been abandoned by MDI and will never be introduced.
They went to smaller and smaller cars, hoping to get a useful operating range. Now they are down to a golf car sized vehicle called the AirPod.
They still haven't managed to get a decent range, though. Recent visitors to the factory were told by MDI that the current version can go a whopping 20km, or maybe even 30km (12 to 19 miles).
Hahaha ... they go from smaller to smaller cars to get an appropriate fuel range?? Hahaha ... somebody should tell these MDI idiots that the concept is principally rubbish whatever you try to improve or optimize as you waste so much energy? They simply should realize that the concept is wrong in the first place, as you need much more energy and too much energy gets wasted in the process to compress the air, which is done with electricity, which is generated by fossil fuel. Yippiee!!!
I wish people would READ before replying !!! In NO WAY am I supporting this NONSENSE! You are evidently either not reading all of what I said or you have mis-understood WHAT you read! YAWNNNNNNNN!!!!!
As the air would gradually lose its compression in the tanks over km, what would be the results in performance as far as trying to increase speed when one is driving slowly but wants to suddenly wants to go faster?
birillotyilly 1 month ago
@birillotyilly This concept reminds me of an Anime movie called "Steam Boy". It is all about how much pressure can be stored in that "steam ball" and how much soon you need to replenish it. In the movie, the energy supply seems endless. But in real life, its applications are limited. Check out part 2 of this video, using it inside a market is more realistic than using it on the road.
cplai 1 month ago
Part 1: believe me or not 12 years ago (when i was 11 years old) i actually came up with the concept of this idea. i remember going to a car repair shop and seeing a drill with a hose attached to it. i asked how it worked they said compressed air. i was amazed and could not stop thinking about it then said to my self "if compressed air can turn a drill it can turn a wheel" and drew up a car that had a compressed air tank and 4 motors to turn each wheel with hoses connecting to it to the tank.
dustin741 1 month ago
Part 2: i was so impressed with myself i ran to show my mother all happy and shit like any other 11 year old. and she shrugged me off like any other mother would with a kid with a crazy imagination. i forgot all about the drawing and about 5 or 6 years latter my mother came to me saying look whats on tv i fell apart, with anger and sadness to see my childhood idea to be stolen. but realized others probably thought of it before me but it proved to me that maybe my crazy ideas went all that stupid
dustin741 1 month ago
@dustin741 And if you'd spent 60 seconds on google you would have known this is an ancient idea and has been floated every 10 years or so since the 1890's. unfortunately because of simple physical laws it is doomed to always be a short range low power parking lot crawler. Check out the Museum of Retrotech
fizzguts 1 month ago
@fizzguts thanks for the info when i came up with the idea i thought i was the only one to think about it. IDK when i was young i was always thinking of new inventions like drawing a bendable trash bin that can fit between tight spots. i also remember taking a palm pilot screen protector cutting it the shape of my lenses and putting it on my glasses to stop scratches but everything was blurry, i also took a used up glue stick and shoved bar soap in it for some reason, i was a crazy kid
dustin741 1 month ago
@dustin741 Bar soap actually seems really reasonable I'm still disturbed by butter sticks. Just seems wrong :-)
fizzguts 1 month ago
Mind blowing.
THis car could save the planet from the path of destruction that we're on, and 10 of the 12 comments on this page are about the difference in the pronunciation of friggin Aluminium.
Where is this car anyway? THis video is from 2006
saeidmomtahan 2 months ago
@saeidmomtahan It's a long running con aimed at rich technical illiterates and will be available for sale next year always next year
fizzguts 2 months ago
Gotta love how the Brits call aluminum "alUminium".....
Snoep76239 3 months ago
@Snoep76239 Americans spell the word without the i. So it is not only a pronunciation difference. The spellings are not the same.
cplai 3 months ago
@cplai I did not know they spelled it differently. Do they do that on their periodic table too?
Snoep76239 3 months ago
@Snoep76239 Google the keywords "aluminium versus aluminum" and the two top articles are quite interesting read on how this deviation happened.
cplai 3 months ago 2
@cplai THANKS for the lead! I love the variation in this often-bizarre language. And though American, I prefer the British spellings of many words, such as "metre" and "labour", it just feels classier, though I prefer the zed in American English's "organization".
Snoep76239 3 months ago
@Snoep76239 he's not british, he's australian
bertrab87 3 months ago
@bertrab87 I didn't know they shared the aluminium thing, but what do I know, I'm an ignorant American. :-)
Snoep76239 3 months ago
@Snoep76239 lol i think it's only America that doesn't spell it 'aluminium'.. and probably Canada but I doubt that
bertrab87 3 months ago
@Snoep76239
Firstly, he's Australian. And it is Al-U-minium.
Its not spelled Aloominum is it? The proper way to say it is: Al-you-min-ium
micksiphone 3 weeks ago
One problem. Where does the energy come from to compress the air in the first place?
It's just like the plug-in electric car farce, the electricity from your wall outlet is 50%+ from burning coal (in the USA), and about 80% nuclear (France). Unless solar/wind/tidal are harnessed as the primary energy source, all these things are unfortunately folly.
Snoep76239 3 months ago
@Snoep76239 I totally agree with you. All these clean cars are only as clean as their energy source. However, centralized energy production has a better potential to be made cleaner and more efficient than having each car burns its own fuel.
cplai 3 months ago
@Snoep76239 This is steam engine...
HyperSTAND 3 months ago
I can't wait to ditch gas which just feed these evil CORPORATION.
Sasukekillsitachi 6 months ago
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@Sasukekillsitachi With it's 6hp engine and 5 mile range it will only ever appeal to technical illiterates with more money than sense
fizzguts 5 months ago
This is a great invention and a great concept. A car that works with AIR and does not pollute the environment like the GASOLINE cars that damage our air every day non stop. But there is only one problem. The Government who don't give a %u%# about people won't allow this. They only care about $ and everyone knows that is the truth. They don't care for helping the environment at all.
hpdragon723 8 months ago
@hpdragon723 Can't you read? I mean it's obvious you can't do math or understand physics. It's a CON and has been since 1995. 5 mile range, 6 hour recharge & hideously inefficient.
fizzguts 7 months ago
I got one of those cars
jimmie481000 8 months ago
@jimmie481000 Lying fucktard
fizzguts 8 months ago
There are thousands and thousands of inventions that have been suppressed by the Pentagon, the oil industry and the pharmaceutical industry to name but a few. Overall, a few greedy trillionaires have been suppressing human progress in order to maintain their power.
Just search the net for a while using key words like suppressed technology, tesla, zero point energy, anti-gravity etc. Fortunately, the Asians are starting to develop these technologies so the Pentagon will have to disclose the truth
mikehanoo33 9 months ago
@mikehanoo33 I'm so fucking angry with that right now... I can't even express how I feel!!! The progress we should be doing to make things easier is just being stolen from idiots who care not for us!!!
Fuckers!
SophiasHeir 8 months ago
About time! I am trying to buy one now. This should make the oil producing people very upset!
BaronessFredericks 9 months ago
@BaronessFredericks Quote "I am trying to buy one now" Bwahahahahah! WELL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! Wise up kiddo they are on sale next year always next year. Send the money as a deposit and KISS IT GOODBYE
fizzguts 9 months ago
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IF SOMEONE IS DETERMINED TO BUY ONE HESHE WILL DO ALL THAT IT TAKES TO USE AN AIR CAR TO GO TO WORK
TomMKG 9 months ago
IF SOMEONE IS DETERMINED TO BUY ONE HE/SHE WILL DO ALL THAT IT TAKES TO USE AN AIR CAR TO GO TO WORK.
TomMKG 9 months ago
@TomMKG Yes they could got to work in this short range inefficient piece of crap if it was less than 5 miles away or they might learn how to turn off the caps lock.
fizzguts 8 months ago
IF SOMEONE IS DETERMINED TO BUY ONE HE/SHE WILL DO ALL THAT IT TAKES TO USE AN AIR CAR TO GO TO WORK.
TomMKG 9 months ago
In November 1996 the La Rance tidal power plant celebrated 30 years of active service during which time 16 billion kWh of electricity were generated without major incident or mechanical breakdown. The initial capital cost of the power plant (620 million Francs) has long since been recovered, and the cost of electricity production is now below 0.02 Euro per kWh.
mikehanoo33 10 months ago
France Sets Ambitious Renewable Energy Targets
By Jane Burgermeister
January 2, 2008 | 14 Comments
Bioenergy, Geothermal Energy, Hydropower, Hydrogen - Fuel Cells, Solar Energy, Wind Power
Wind and solar power are at the heart of a big new push by the French government to increase the renewable share of the country's total energy consumption from 6.7 percent in 2004 to 20 percent by 2020.
mikehanoo33 10 months ago
Uploaded FIVE years ago.. (2006).. and supposedly the car was going to be in production and available by the next year.. 2007?..
What happened? The usual petroleum based economic 'hit men' took it out?
englishvinal8 10 months ago
@englishvinal8 What happened? The usual. Con some technically ignorant dreamer to invest. Take the money never deliver anything as that would expose the CON demand more money. Move on to the next rich nitwit take a few deposits. Rinse and repeat
Google Catecar News
fizzguts 10 months ago
300 bar = 4,350 psi Wow thats a lot pressure!
Sailerrman 11 months ago
why its so expensive
pointer7pl 1 year ago
I think that a liquefied gas (such as Carbon Dioxide) would be better than compressed air as the liquid would have a much higher stored energy density than compressed air (lesser output than a gasoline powered motor).Of course the tank contained liquefied CO2 at room temperature would be at lower pressures (hence less hp) than those high pressure compressed air tanks.Another consideration would be liquefied Nitrogen although such a storage tank would have to have great pressure capabilities.
m9078jk3 1 year ago
@m9078jk3 So you have a source of free liquid nitrogen?
fizzguts 11 months ago
@m9078jk3 that's a really good point, but it's more expencive than to use only air. with air, you can simplify the trancfer of energy from source to road significantly, the source being, say a wind farm or something like that.
demonofrazgriz333 10 months ago
@m9078jk3 that's a really good point, but it's more expencive than to use only air. with air, you can simplify the transfer of energy from source to road significantly, the source being, say a wind farm or something like that.
demonofrazgriz333 10 months ago
its a nice toy but running a whole lot of compressors, cannot be more efficient. id buy one none the less. the only ones i can find are trapped in videos. id pay at least 20000 for this, assuming it has no heater or air con. just need to get a dive compresor for home, and why does it need to idle? from there engine vids you couldnt stall this, it is like a steam engine, surely no idle would be better all round.
UBERKron 1 year ago
@UBERKron Real measured range is 5 miles. Takes 6 hours to recharge with a 6kw compressor. Been on sale "next year" always next year since 2000.
it's a stupid con.
vencat 20 miles
e.volution south africa
rexresearch negre
7.22km air car
Google is your friend
fizzguts 1 year ago
its a nice toy but running a whole lot of compressors, cannot be more efficient. id buy one none the less. the only ones i can find are trapped in videos. id pay at least 20000 for this, assuming it has no heater or air con. just need to get a dive compresor for home,
UBERKron 1 year ago
Tommy Reed engine demonstration - Last week, Tommy Reed did a live demonstration on the SmartScarecrow show, using compressed air. The engine allegedly could be 85% efficiency compared to 35% for the best conventional internal combustion engines. (PESWiki; Jan. 28, 2010)-( ALL OF HIS YOUTUBE POSTS ARE NOW GONE !)
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 3
aluminum or aluminium. car sound really loud.
MrTweetyhack 1 year ago
"Viktor Schauberger, Karl Schappeller, Nikola Tesla, Jim Lawson, Floyd Sweet, Stanley Meyer, John Bedini, Wilhelm Reich, Eugene Mallove, the Australian Joe Cell invention and many, many others - some of who have passed away without their devices being mass-produced and publicly developed, some of whose knowledge has become obfuscated by immense resistance, and some who have been bought off, threatened, received limited funds, suffered from laboratory sabotage and so on."
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 4
just another addition, extra air can be recompressed by using the kinetic energy of the car to run a compress when braking.
This will make the car much more efficient and youll only lose energy friction and air resistance.
ThatDifferentGuy 1 year ago
@ThatDifferentGuy "This will make the car much more efficient" Nope You completely misunderstand regenerative braking. Maximum range is achieved at a steady speed with no braking. If you go on a urban test cycle with lots of stops and starts this range will be MUCH shorter. Using regenerative braking gives about a 10% increase on this MUCH shorter range. As the best MDI have ever demonstrated is about 5 miles so the whole things a crock anyway.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts In terms of oil or internal combuston engine alternatives this is technologically prehistoric. There are much more efficient methods such as a simple pure electric car, no hybrids. Where do we get this electricity to power the huge demand cause by electric cars especially without the need for batteries? Look up cold fusion and tesla's wardencliff experiment. It's very englightening.
ThatDifferentGuy 1 year ago
I made my weed whacker run of air, it took less than five minutes and one fitting to convert it.
pyroboy08 1 year ago
Instead of blaming alternative energy solutions for their weakness, fight the present non sense energy opulence...
and talk about the weakness of our underground crude oil parasitic society.
Accept that some visionary peoples try even now to oppose menu alternatives to the 300 HP gas piston engines !
Let's keep innovating and give them our encouragements, don’t play the establishment game...
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fizzguts 1 year ago
Pathetic con with a 5 mile range. who cares? Only tin foil hat wearing kooks
fizzguts 1 year ago
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I like this video. Thank you for your sharing. Hope to see next your video.
many9662 1 year ago
Fuel for thought
Nobody can say that the implosion motor does not run off of any fuel. This really is a totally bogus statement for it is a known fact that the fuel source is normal breathable air and water. Using the moisture content helps pack the air molecules at the peripheral.
But let’s look at another source of potential power. For those of you who might have a copy of the Callum Coats book “The Energy Evolution” I am going to refer to page 44
second paragraph:
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 5
“If specifically heavy high quality water is atomized and the resultant water vapor is compressed by a Descending Piston with a simultaneous infusion of atmospheric oxygen, then this aqueous mixture of air is instantaneously transformed into increased and highly potentiated stocks of new air. The expansive pressure produced in this way corresponds to the power of about 2,000 atmospheres per liter of water.” (2000 x 14.7 = 29,400 psi ) (1 Liter = .26 gal.)
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 6
Great but there is still not enough energy in compressed air.
Charles2337 1 year ago
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intermitrj 1 year ago
Wolfhart Willimczik is another individual who like Rogers has efficient compressed air technology and has been suppressed. Physicist and inventor Wolfhart Willimczik has created a rotary piston machine without any bearings in the power train and with only rotating pistons.Other countries are reported to be using this technology in secret according to Wolfhart.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 7
Of course, the Global Elite need the public at large to consider free-energy “crazy”. They want this “black op” technology as their secret weapon to use against us and they attack those who speak up. One example is well known pioneer of free energy research, John Hutchison. After he and Dr Judy Wood publicized their paper “Anomalies at the WTC and the Hutchison Effect”, Hutchison ran into problems with the Canadian authorities.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 10
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Google Rexresearch Negre over 10 years of broken promises documented Google e.volution south africa Lies from 2000 Google museum of retrotech Air cars are OLD tech Google Gast air motor Complete specs with consumption and power curves. Google Vencat 20 miles MDI ex USA distributor "theoretical" 20 mile range air only 5 times less efficient than an EV And you believe a youtube video. Want to buy a bridge?
fizzguts 1 year ago 2
Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic – and this we know it is, for certain – then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature." [Nikola Tesla]
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 45
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@CommonSensePeter The lazy sheep who have the engineering knowledge of a concrete lamp post deserve to be conned by air car scammers. The ability to reason is not a automatic gift it requires study and application, the sort of things drooling conspiracy kooks won't do
fizzguts 1 year ago
April 7, 2006 Wells Fargo Bank announced they finally invested $5 million of the $1 billion intended for renewable energy. Where did they invest? In a mutual fund: Carlyle/Riverstone Renewable Energy Infrastructure Fund I, L.P. Funny thing, who are the 3 largest stockholders of Carlyle Group? The answer in order of largest percentage owned. (source: Al Martin)
1. The Queen of England 2. Bush Family 3. Bin Laden Family
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 13
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@mikehanoo33 ":the electric car , they never get released"
They are released the problem is you don't have enough money to buy one
TESLA Roadster
fizzguts 1 year ago
@CommonSensePeter >>> Indeed the fox is in charge of the hen house as they used to say , the big money boys have been playing dirty for many years , especially in the oil business , they have the game rigged , there is no way for alternative green fuels to make it to the 'free market' , look what they have done and continue to do to the electric car , they never get released and they are using inferior technology , the NIMH batteries were bought out by Chevron Texaco back in 2002 , 100 mi range
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 10
why dont they make electric and air ?
the electric will charge the air compressor on the back or front of the car
daswada9 1 year ago
@daswada9
Do you have a 40km extension cord to run the electric compressor?
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts it can be run form a electric battery's and the battery's will charge when the wheels are moving !
daswada9 1 year ago 7
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@daswada9 I've got two better ideas bigger tyres on the rear so it always rolls downhill or a sprocket on the front axle and one on the back axle connected by a chain so the front wheels drive the back
Or you could talk to someone you trust who has an engineering or science background and they will explain Don't ask me to explain I'd just tell you your idea is mind bogglingly stupid ball crushingly idiotic
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts tell me now how the normal battery that you have in your car is charging when you drive the car ??!?!
then tell me that my idea is stupid !
daswada9 1 year ago 7
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@daswada9 Your idea is stupid. Mind numbingly pants wettingly stupid
IC car
Fuel runs engine, engine drives alternator, alternator charges battery
Your idiotic idea
air tanks drives air engine, which moves car which rolls along, using a drive from a wheel to drive an alternator, to charge a battery, to run a compressor, which recharges the air tank, which drives the air engine, which moves the car, which..
Oh! Fuck!
Sigh Tards to the left, Fwits to the right, Cretins in the middle
fizzguts 1 year ago
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@daswada9 The engine uses fuel to rotate. Some of that power is used to turn the alternator, which generates electricity. Charging the battery uses energy.
Google "perpetual motion machine". People have already invented it. Unfortunately, just like your idea, they don't work.
Charlieutube99 1 year ago
Now if only the greenies knew how to make a car look good, and were business savvy enough to realize that it's just as important as being green in order for it to catch on.
DavidThePatriot 1 year ago
The oil spill was a major turning point in Earth’s favor. The oil companies’ dominance in energy production has been drastically reduced as demands for alternate sources have soared. Soon you will see long-suppressed technologies coming into use for many purposes, from curing diseases and eradicating pollution to providing light and heat and transportation fuel.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
Free energy labeled 'economic terrorism' - The widespread adoption of these new, non-polluting energy and propulsion systems will effectively replace the use of oil, gas, coal, nuclear power, impacting 4.5 trillion dollars a year in world economic activity, replace the current? geo-political order with one based on decentralized abundance. (Examiner; March 21, 2009)
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@mikehanoo33 Compressed air is one of the least efficient means available to store energy. A significant part of the energy used to compress it is lost in the form of waste heat. When you use that air, it becomes cold, just like those dust blowers you buy at Office Max. When it cools like that, the pressure inside the tank drops until the temp returns to ambient.
I wonder if these guys are really that dim, or if it's just a deliberate lie.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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This Negre guy should be behind bars for disseminating the lie that air cars are ecofriendly or even zero emission as he says.
A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh @300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 @ 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@mikehanoo33 How would you compress AIR ... without using some kind of energysource?
France has a lot of nuclear powerplants .. maybe the most of the European countries ...
Tianyulong 10 months ago
@mikehanoo33
Things are changing now. Governments/companies are investing in renewable but still using oil its a day by day slow step for change and this guy's engine will be profited from in the future the truth is OIL is draining up coming from a man whom live's in the middle east WE believe in change so should the world and you.
Oil is a pool thats being drained up now we got just a few years till its all done...
and those companies whom are the bigboys will dry up and leave :)
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@mikehanoo33 I can only hope
MrROTD 4 months ago
Boom San Agustin said... I tried, in 2004, to get some investors in my country to deal with MDI for the distribution of the Air Car here. The investors were very excited at first; but later, we had to stop. There were threats given to one of my investors to discontinue the venture and he feared for his life and his family's life. I don't know who did it; but I'm sure someone stood to lose a lot from this technology. December 28, 2008 6:51 PM
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 9
@mikehanoo33 "I tried, in 2004, to get some investors in my country to deal with MDI for the distribution of the Air Car here" then someone pointed out this was a CON and if you did the numbers their claims were impossible and had never been demonstrated.
How much does MDI pay you to shill for them?
fizzguts 1 year ago
The inventor is Guy Negre, a French motor vehicle engineer and former Formula One engine designer. He has apparently received death threats because of the invention, which could cripple the worlds oil industry.
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mikehanoo33 1 year ago
Death Threats to Guy Negre, inventor of the air powered car
Posted by on 2000-10-25 09:43:43
contributed by jabela
Wheels 24 reports,"A car that could revolutionise the motor industry and which led to death threats against the designer will be unveiled at the Auto Africa show in Johannesburg next week."
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 3
@mikehanoo33 Bwahahahyaha!
You are joking right TEN YEARS AGO. The only conspiracy is MDI taking investors money and running
Google e.volution south africa for all the stupid MDI promises from 2000 that were NEVER delivered
fizzguts 1 year ago
The first successful application of the pneumatic motor in transportation was the Mekarski system air engine used in locomotives. Mekarski’s innovative engine overcame cooling that accompanies air compression by heating air in a small boiler prior to use. The Tramway de Nantes, located in Nantes, France, was noted for being the first to use Mekarki engines to power their fleet of locomotives. The tramway began operation on December 13, 1879 and continues to operate today;
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@mikehanoo33 "The tramway began operation on December 13, 1879 and continues to operate today;" BUT NOT AIR POWERED
fizzguts 1 year ago
150 x 35 = 5250 lbs. (@ 3:00)
johnbevington 1 year ago
@johnbevington 1 bar equals roughly 14.5 psi. So 300 bars equal roughly 150 times of 30 psi. So he assumes an average tire is pressurized to around 30 lb per square inch. (not 35 psi in your equation.)
cplai 1 year ago
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@cplai Compressed air is one of the least efficient means available to store energy. A significant part of the energy used to compress it is lost in the form of waste heat. When you use that air, it becomes cold, just like those dust blowers you buy at Office Max. When it cools like that, the pressure inside the tank drops until the temp returns to ambient.
I wonder if these guys are really that dim, or if it's just a deliberate lie.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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@cplai Compressed air is one of the least efficient means available to store energy. A significant part of the energy used to compress it is lost in the form of waste heat. When you use that air, it becomes cold, just like those dust blowers you buy at Office Max. When it cools like that, the pressure inside the tank drops until the temp returns to ambient.
I wonder if these guys are really that dim, or if it's just a deliberate lie.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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This Negre guy should be behind bars for disseminating the lie that air cars are ecofriendly or even zero emission as he says.
A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh @300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 @ 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@cplai Compressed air is one of the least efficient means available to store energy. A significant part of the energy used to compress it is lost in the form of waste heat. When you use that air, it becomes cold, just like those dust blowers you buy at Office Max. When it cools like that, the pressure inside the tank drops until the temp returns to ambient.
I wonder if these guys are really that dim, or if it's just a deliberate lie.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
14.5 (1 bar) x 300 (number of bars)= 4350 (psi.)
150 x 29 (lbs. of tire pressure) = 4350
I'm not so sure about this air powered car.
johnbevington 1 year ago
If the car was spray painted with a light sensitive polymer it could convert sunlight into electricity and charge the battery providing power for the air compressor to replace air in the storage tanks ready for the trip home each afternoon..
MaxB6851 8 months ago
@MaxB6851 "If the car was spray painted with a light sensitive polymer" it would be about as useful as a chocolate tea pot. Do some numbers and stop being a twit
fizzguts 8 months ago
The term "air engine" disappeared from engineering textbooks after the 1930s and the second world war. Gas engines had been perfected, the oil industry was established, and gas was cheap.
Serious interest in air cars was rekindled by the energy glitches of the 1970s. Dozens of inventors have patented designs for hybrid, closed cycle, and self-fueling air cars, as well as conversions for existing engines and designs for air cars meant to stop at air stations for refueling.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
Lets do the sums. Assume the tank is 2 mters long and 250 mm in diameter. This is about 98 Litres. Say the engine needs 60 PSI to work. (The same as the pressure in a combustion engine when the exhaust valve opens) If we start out with 3000 PSI in the tank, it is a 50:1 change so there must be 98 x 50 (60 PSI) units required. Take a 1 litre engine at 3000 rpm. It consumes 3000 litres every minute. We started out with 4909 (98x50) units so the engine will run for 1.6 minutes per tank.
kiwiavi 1 year ago
@kiwiavi Some one who can use math. Yay! If you assume the engine exhausts to 100% then the final pressure is 14.7psi atmospheric and you have a crude maximum theoretical efficiency. They used to list swept volume, gearing and tyre size. With that max theoretical range was 20km. Claims of 200km. RIGHT plus MDI throw half the energy away as they use a pressure regulator to drop the tank pressure to about 200psi.
fizzguts 1 year ago
In 1934, 21-year-old Johannes Wardenier announced he developed the world’s first fuel-less automobile. For weeks Dutch newspapers reported of an incredible invention that would change the world for ever. Not long after that he was mysteriously imprisoned in a mental institution, his design for the engine was stolen and he was kept under constant guard and never allowed to see anyone.
hotmichael3358 1 year ago
@hotmichael3358
"In 1934, 21-year-old Johannes Wardenier announced he developed the world’s first fuel-less automobil"
Proving charlatans con men and kooks go back a long way. This is news?
"Mysteriously imprisoned" What's mysterious, a loony tune gets sent to the funny farm. So?
fizzguts 1 year ago
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"A pearly white Frankish woman couldn't sell in the bazaar for a penny!"
genxxxersize 1 year ago
Ok there does seem to be an elephant in the room. We could all carry on using normal engine cars if idiots would stop driving cars that have 4.0 or 5.0 litre engines there really is no need, maybe walk the half mile trip to the shop. Imagine a world with everyone just using what they need. There would be no war for oil ( call me what you want that's what it is! ) And there would be much less pollution. just a thought.
azto19 1 year ago
This engine has been touted for at least 40 years. Its a P.P.M. and its totally bogus. To get better gas mileage there are two ways to go. A steam engine where the water can be heated with any type of fuel. Two make the engine from aluminum and the rest of the car from aluminum or composite plastic to make it lightweight and thus get better gas mileage. If you want my professional opinion I am available for hire as a consultant.
fattony252 1 year ago
@fattony252 "To get better gas mileage there are two ways to go. A steam engine where the water can be heated with any type of fuel"
Maybe but not currently. Unless you get the cycle efficiency up by using super critical pressures and temps (which has not been done in car sized units so far) burning gasoline in a steam car uses more fuel.
Light weighting a car improves mileage but only by a small % especially on flat constant speed runs.
Almost all modern car engines are aluminum now
fizzguts 1 year ago
From France but in English :@ i'm french me !!!
typeRF20c 1 year ago
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These stupid engineers really think that the air car is any sort of a solution. These pitiful fools! It is certainly not as compressed air is the worst imaginable carrier of energy. Then u even better store energy in a battery. Of course, u can build a car on compressed air. Nothing easier than that
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Not Awesome, just a scam, MDI sells manufacturing licenses and pre-order since 1998, but no car.
passion356 1 year ago 2
Well, not really a scam. These stupid engineers really think that the air car is any sort of a solution. These pitiful fools! It is certainly not as compressed air is the worst imaginable carrier of energy. Then u even better store energy in a battery. Of course, u can build a car on compressed air. Nothing easier than that. But the concept does not make sense at all. It is complete rubbish!!
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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Compressed air the worst and least efficient carrier of energy. A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh at 300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 at 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice. Most of the energy is dissipated as heat). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Awesome! Now, hire someone to design a body style that's not ugly. We Americans will never adopt the technology unless it looks sexy.
wonderbung 1 year ago
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Air car = OLD idea from the 1900's and MDI's implementation is WORSE than units built in the 1920's and there is no way to improve it
Power = 5hp MDI figures
Only published test range = 5 miles
$13 million taken since 1998 no cars sold
NO independent confirmation of claims.
fizzguts 1 year ago 3
lmao american cars are so far from sexy.. especially the plastic they are all made of.. I love american cars but they arent sexy..
WislaKrakow24 1 year ago
What do you love about American cars??? None of the components an American is made of, would be used in a cheap European middle of the range car. We don't want to spoil cars in Europe.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
i love american cars because my family has owned cars from multiple continents and the north american ones lasted the longest. they also have properly made engines, not like the little japanese ricers that have 2.0 l coca cola bottles and enough torque to maybe carry a passenger. European cars on the other hand are always in the repair shop. i know this because i work in one. Don't tell me american cars are bad until youve owned one
WislaKrakow24 1 year ago
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Well, whatever. The point for this video is that compressed air the worst and least efficient carrier of energy. A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh at 300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 at 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice. Most of the energy is dissipated as heat). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline.
joakimveyron 1 year ago
@WislaKrakow24 Hey, I didn;t even make any serious calculation. What I said is actually is only common sense and the basics every engineer (should) know: basics of thermodynamiics. If u don't believe me, then u also can get a scientific evaluation of the compressed air car here: Google "Creutzig "economic and environmental evaluation of compressed air cars" "
joakimveyron 1 year ago
@WislaKrakow24
...I don't know Wisla, the Toyota models are pretty effecient and if you take care of your car, it will last a very long time.
evilnomad111 1 year ago
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Compressed air the worst and least efficient carrier of energy. A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh at 300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 at 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice. Most of the energy is dissipated as heat). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
eycan somebody rescue mehh from my loneliness really bored today
EulaleaDeehl6 2 years ago
ugly car
jameshet45 2 years ago
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humcant seem to find a man who ill treat me like a princess
MrDorthyvannoteqj 2 years ago
All the green assholes can drive these little shit boxes I'm sticking with a real car.
BlazingAnus 2 years ago
"you can reduce the size by making a nitrogen filter"
Bwahahaha Failed physics at school did you?
You want to spend large amounts of energy by sieving out nitrogen before you compress it which wastes more energy to give you umm well actually no difference in stored energy.
fizzguts 2 years ago
People, we need to spread the word, this video was made 3 years... what the fuck?
I'm still chocking on the gases produced by my city. Please, let other people know about this. My lungs are already collapsing.
gringodeltoro1 2 years ago
"this video was made 3 years"
Yep it's an ongoing con that has roots back in the 1990's google e.volution south africa for a 2000 example of lies opps promises
fizzguts 2 years ago
There also was the EV1 in california. This actually made on the road, but General Motor only leased them (Tom Hanks and Mel Gibson had one). When the lease ended, they took it back without offering them to buy it. (Watch who killed the electric car.)
There is a cure for cancer (Run from the cure).
You can make everything from hemp and don't need oil or plastic anymore (Hemporium SA)
Oh and the aliens are coming. (Disclosure project 2001).
How much longer are we going to be duped?
gringodeltoro1 2 years ago
Hemp is WAY to expensive to make fuel or fabric from currently
Aliens are only believed in by tinfoil hat wearing kooks
Who killed the electric car was a piece of crap aimed at mouth breathers. Battery life &$ means electric vehicles while environmentally wonderful are economic suicide hence my comment
There are many forms of cancer some have cures, some don't. If you are implying my sister who will die of CML is missing out I'd love to find you and give you the same cancer.
fizzguts 2 years ago
Check the gerson therapy for your sister, good luck.
gringodeltoro1 2 years ago
Type "the gerson therapy 1/9" on youtube. There are subtitles but don't worry about it, it's in English.
gringodeltoro1 2 years ago
PS if Guy negre dies suddenly .. it won't take a rocket scientist to figure out something was fishy They killed the electric car .ELECTROVAYA a company in Toronto Canada that has a battery made of plastic they call a superpolymer that is five times as powerful as it's closest lith ion rivals... I really wonder why the car is legal in europe but not legal in CANADA the country that makes the batteries ... oh and they also power spacesuits for NASA ...But no way could they be safe right ?
nakedblasphemy 2 years ago
I think all you folks need to realize that this technology has been getting better by the minute and now this technology is ready for market. Try to get up to date and realize that there are plenty of other ways to make power , plenty of other means to generate electricity. Folks have been running on biodiesel, hho , pure electric , hybrids etc ...There is a worry about Peak oil , but with the change over to more sustainable technologies, we will be able solve our energy crisis
nakedblasphemy 2 years ago
I think all you folks need to realize that this technology has been around for 100's of years, it has no potential to get any better and now this technology is only to empty the wallets of gullible technical illiterates
google rexreserch negre
fizzguts 2 years ago
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@fizzguts "A pearly white Frankish woman couldn't sell in the bazaar for a penny!"
genxxxersize 1 year ago
it seems to me that this would be a natural development of the old school steam engine. Just as you can run a steam engine on compressed air, I wonder if this would be an effective engine coupled with steam power.
chibichan1701 2 years ago
Im reading some of theses comments for this video and all i can really say is that there are som negative thinking arse holes in this world,
the concept is a good idea, people dont seem to realise it is a technology that is just only starting out in,
in time they will figure out how to make a faster engine more powerful engine,
as for the cock who said the idea would use more energy, the air compressor used to fill the car would use the same amount of electric as a washing machine
mattf1986ut 2 years ago
Nice one dickhead
MDI's own figures are the air car uses FIVE times more energy for the same distance compared to an electric car.
Google Vencat 20 miles
MDI's own figures say a 7kw air compressor has to run for 6 hours to recharge this POC.
The technology dates back to the 1900's
Google the Douglas Self website So as you have proved you don't know your arse from your elbow how about posting again so I can furthur take the piss out of you
fizzguts 2 years ago
"dickhead" fuck you prick, ive noticed you have posted and kicked off a few times over this video i actually was expecting a comment from you,
maybe my comment about the energy an air commpressor uses was unfounded
However THE CONCEPT of a car that runs on air is a good idea, all im saying is stop being so negative and embrace new ideas,
you obviously have spent alot of time researching the pitfalls of this subjest , leads me to think you need a girlfriend a life or both,
mattf1986ut 2 years ago
"my comment about the energy an air commpressor uses was unfounded"
Yep
"THE CONCEPT of a car that runs on air is a good idea"
nope 300 years of expansion engine science plus the ideal gas law proves this is a con for technically illiterate cretins
"all im saying is stop being so negative and embrace new ideas,"
Right so if someone put a video up announcing cutting your head off cured migraines you'd be first in the queue to try it.
nice lad bout as sharp as a bowling ball
fizzguts 2 years ago
im so so sure you are right, so il leave you on you little quest to prove that this is a con,
im sure that there are soooooo many people "cretins" out there that need to be shown this big burning light of yours,
go forth and lead the masses great one !!for you have been blessed by an unparalled scentific geniuss that us mear mortals could only dream of possessing
mattf1986ut 2 years ago
"im so so sure you are right"
good
"you have been blessed by an unparalled scentific geniuss that us mear mortals could only dream of possessing"
Nope BUT I can use a spell & a grammar checker & I didn't sleep through the science classes at school. If you weren't so mind bogglingly lazy you could follow the links provided & study physics, in particular the ideal gas law.
Unfortunately that requires work and believers in crap videos about crap ideas on youtube won't do that.
fizzguts 2 years ago
if you must know i actually scored pretty well in science (grade B higher paper), also as your amazing observational skills will have deducted english wasnt my best subject,
i will admit my grammer is a weee bit rusty, however my grammer can be improved over time
but sadly for you you will always be an selfasured arrogent prick and no amount time and effort wil be able to rectorfy that,
you must spend a lot of time argueing with people on hear,
all i can say is that is rather sad,
mattf1986ut 2 years ago
"if you must know i actually scored pretty well in science (grade B higher paper),"
Glad you passed a test, pity you didn't understand science, can't apply it and haven't bothered to study furthur. HINT ideal gas law
Have you noticed how you can only slag me off but can't fault my facts on this stupid air powered CON?
Twas ever so for the true believer in non-science and woo
PS "so il leave you"
Yeah. Right. Bwahaha!
fizzguts 2 years ago
i actually did read up on what you say and yes i do see some element of truth in what you say,
but there is nothing wrong with being open minded to a new concept and trying diifferent things.
people said TV would never catch on, look at it now.
mattf1986ut 2 years ago
'there is nothing wrong with being open minded to a new concept"
True BUT that also requires critical and searching evaluation otherwise you get suckered by every green washing scam artist coming down the road.
Summary
Air car = OLD idea from the 1900's and MDI's implementation is WORSE than units built in the 1920's and there is no way to improve it
Power = 5hp MDI figures
Only published test range = 5 miles
$13 million taken since 1998 no cars sold
NO independent confirmation of claims.
fizzguts 2 years ago
Hey stupid monkey, the tech is starting out??? This shit already existed in 18th century.
The concept is a good idea???? Why????? It causes much more CO2 emissions than any other car and you only can store as much energy as compressed air to get a range of 8 km??? So what's good at the idea????
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
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genxxxersize 1 year ago
Sorry for calling you a stupid monkey. You are from the UK. That's apologies enough for that fact.
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
thank you
ANTONINZIVALA 2 years ago
The MDI air car shown in these videos has been abandoned by MDI and will never be introduced.
They went to smaller and smaller cars, hoping to get a useful operating range. Now they are down to a golf car sized vehicle called the AirPod.
They still haven't managed to get a decent range, though. Recent visitors to the factory were told by MDI that the current version can go a whopping 20km, or maybe even 30km (12 to 19 miles).
Charlieutube99 2 years ago
Hahaha ... they go from smaller to smaller cars to get an appropriate fuel range?? Hahaha ... somebody should tell these MDI idiots that the concept is principally rubbish whatever you try to improve or optimize as you waste so much energy? They simply should realize that the concept is wrong in the first place, as you need much more energy and too much energy gets wasted in the process to compress the air, which is done with electricity, which is generated by fossil fuel. Yippiee!!!
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
I wish people would READ before replying !!! In NO WAY am I supporting this NONSENSE! You are evidently either not reading all of what I said or you have mis-understood WHAT you read! YAWNNNNNNNN!!!!!
dividebyN 2 years ago
@Charlieutube99 MDI furnished a prototype to KLM airlines. Running around slowly at the Airport it has a range of less than 15km (10 miles).
MDI continues to claim 200km range, though, and continues to try and get investors to send in money for licenses.
Charlieutube99 1 year ago
I'll just keep my diesel thanks :D
oOoxelAoOo 2 years ago