Supernatural 6x20 - Castiel Tells Us He Raised Sam From Hell

[victor4782]

Lucifer, Michael, Lilith, Alastair and Azazel. Wow! Feels you with such awe knowing Sam & Dean have either locked-up or capped such ferocious Angels & Demons. All because each have made the mistake of underestimating them. Crowley is absolutely correct to be worried.

[Blasted2Oblivion]

Denim Wrapped nightmares? That is possibly the funniest fucking thing I have heard this week.

[danny6661205]

In this episode I love it when cass says ''2 brothers a drunk and a fallen angel''

[vodkagal28]

I love Crowley,he's the only bad guy that realizes Sam and Dean can do MAJOR damage when given enough motivation.

[sn54]

crowley is kinda wrong though its john that really beat azazael he didn't expect that. Lilith was meant to die she didn't underestimate them and mikey and lucy's defeat was pure BS how can sam drag the eldest arc angel in hell and suppress the devil at the same time total BS.

[danny6661205]

At the end of supernatural season 5 all the fans (including myself) were like ''omg why did the light go off is it Sam or is it lucifer, is lucifer still inside of Sam, is it sams spirit/ghost/soul (but no it was actually the opposite way around Sams soul was still in hell and his body and mind was on earth which we find out in supernatural season 6) why did the light flick off?! but now we know it went off because of cass being their!

[danny6661205]

1:05 the light flicks off now that i think about it it went off because of cass being their.

[MrsPaperCuts]

Am I the only one who still likes all three of them? Even after Dean being majorly ungrateful to Cas & lying to Sam bout Amy OR Sam betraying Dean in s4 & stabbing Cas OR Cas teaming up with Crowley therefore lying to his friends & breaking Sam's wall. They all had their motives, they all acted wrong at some point & now everybody is hurt. Cas feels left alone, Dean can't trust Cas anymore & Sam is a nutjob without his wall. Despite this, I'm positive they will get it together. Family it is.

[vetzntrainin]

Wait - didn't crowley already say he brought sam back?

[M4ttM3224]

@vetzntrainin Yes - he lied.

[trec1234]

I think by the time he realised Sam's soul was missing, he wouldn't have wanted to get it back, because whenever the Angels or Demons are up to no good, they want to keep Dean and Sam apart.

[trec1234]

Well they did a hatchet job on Sam, and never really made it clear that when he started on the wrong path, he thought he was doing it for the right reasons.

Now a similar thing is happening to Cas, but at least they're letting him explain himself!

People still hate Sam, even though he sacrificed himself - but that won't happen with Cas, whatever happens.

[xHyruleXPrincessx]

Ahhh, Bobby has Cas on his face. XD

[lovelydiva06]

let'em get to me, i'll tare their freaking eyes out, loool, crowley is insane and funny

[sonofhiro]

yes crowley you are the only one who doesn't underestimate those denim- wrapped nightmares. That's why you didn't die in the season finale.

[Elvinauk]

Sam did many terrible things while with Ruby and everyone forgives him so why any different for Cas? For Sam it was demon blood and Cas it is souls, the writers don't have much imagination at times...

[chrllee8]

@Elvinauk the difference is Sam was manipulated by heaven and hell but he still took responsibility, made amends, and redeemed himself. Cass never own his action in starting the Apocalypse with full knowledge (Sam was trying to stop it using false information provided by angels) and he was stone-cold sober when he teamed with Crowley and lied to Dean for 2 years and then tried to convince Dean to leave Sam in Hell and killed his friends and followers....all before the soul munching.

[makeupismypassion31]

@chrllee8 True, but Season 7 hasn't started here yet, so it's possible that Cas may try to set things right. We will just have to see.

[M4ttM3224]

@makeupismypassion31 Season 7 hasn't started anywhere yet.

[makeupismypassion31]

@M4ttM3224 Yes, I know. I didn't mean to put the yet, but yeah I knew that. lol. :-D

[FayeChan01]

@chrllee8I remember Sam being sober when he was plotting with Ruby. Cas had a very small part in the Apocalypse if all he did was hold info. I say this again, Sam CHOOSE to jump down the hell hole. Why is Cas blamed for leaving him in hell?I remember he asked Sam about finding his soul and Sam said something like 'full of monsters, can't go down there,can't let them out'. So he choose to leave his own soul there. He did not say he was there guardian, he just offers them help. 

[chrllee8]

@FayeChan01 It's like you're blaming firefighters were getting cancer from the burning asbestos building as they rushed into save civilians from the fire that somebody else started. That is lame, even for you, to blame Sam for ending the Apocalypse that Cass started. I remember Cass saying he thinks of himself as their guardian and call me crazy but you don't leave your innocent charge in Hell. Cass is a hypocrite and I'm starting to see so are you.

[FayeChan01]

@chrllee8 I cannot debate with someone who is name calling because of fictional characters. I think you need to take a walk, get some air and remember it's just a show. I don't care if you hate Cas or not. I'm not so in love with him i start to say bad things about you. I don't even know you. So please stop taking it all so seriously. it's not like the show is going to get rid of Cas because you hate him. You have your opinion, I have mine.

[chrllee8]

@FayeChan01 You "don't care" so why are you still commenting? For such a claim you sure take the characters way too seriously to the point of rewriting canon in order to keep up your constant silly defense of a fictional character whom the writers made more powerful than any other SPN characters but you keep writing "poor Cas! He needs Dean to listen to him and then he wouldn't be such an ass". Seriously, go out and take a walk or actually watch the show instead of rewriting canon.

[FayeChan01]

@chrllee8 It's called a fun debate. I saw alot of your hate comments and thought it would be nice to discuss the show. I don't see why you're getting so worked up over the whole thing. What did I say that was not canon? Everything i said has happend in the show. Gosh it's like argueing with a twilight fan that will not see any other point of view. Then you start the personal insults over a fictional side character. Thats a pretty immature reaction. Go ahead and continue with your hate comments.

[MsMorganStar]

@FayeChan01 You watch/read Twilight? Tell me this, do the vampires really "sparkle"? And if so, what do the werewolves do, glitter? Debating those Twilight girls must be fun fun and fun!

[chrllee8]

@FayeChan01 Agree, It is FUN to watch you froth when you "debate" others until you drop out. Your "Dean is a hypocrite" and "Dean fans annoy me" comments reawaken my Cass-is-so-lame attitude, so thank you! One of your many rewriting canon include your insistence that Cass saved Sam from hell, No, Death saved Sam from hell. There was a whole episode about it, really! Dean flunked Death's test but Death still rescued Sam from hell (boy was Cass mad!) And debating twilight fans? Seriously?

[Mindaugas7100]

@chrllee8 Hello, u are extremely intelligent person and i have seen that you made vast amount of information about Castiel and hunters relatioships, on certain things i agree on others don't with what u say. For example, Season 5 brothers used Cass to stop the Apocalypse in season 6 Cass used brothers to catch as many alphas as possible, my point is, what comes around that goes round. I really disliked dean Calling Cass a dick and stuff like it, i mean how can he call him a brother

[chrllee8]

@Mindaugas7100 Thank you! And we will probably agree to disagree. Sammy stopped the Apocalypse in season 5, Cas mostly drank alot. And since Cas started the Apocalypse so anything he did for the brothers in season 5 is owed to them. His using the brothers in season 6 created a deficit in their relationship. And Dean is a dick to everybody, just ask Sammy!

[MrDarkkamui]

@chrllee8 Actually Sam was the one who started the Apocalypse!

[chrllee8]

@MrDarkkamui Actually Cas started the Apocalypse (even Misha said so) because he was the only one who knew Lilith was the final seal, neither Dean nor Sam knew about the final seal. Sam was trying so hard to stop the Apocalypse and stop Lucifer from rising but he was tricked by the angels and lied to, and Cas actively played his part before changing his mind but by then it was too late.

[ILoveCustardCreams2]

@chrllee8 Castiel is partly to blame (as is Dean for breaking the first seal) but at the end of the day, it was Sam who started the apocalypse. There's no point giving the argument that Sam was trying to save the world, he was just being self righteous (I don't know if you remember Dean's line about how there's nothing worse than some A-hole who thinks he's on a holy mission) and he trusted a demon over Dean. I reckon Sam made up for it though.

[FayeChan01]

@chrllee8 He might have been mainpulated by Crowley. The boys never helped him with the problem upstairs, he just decided to take matters into his own hands. Dean lied to him aswell, almost got him killed by using that protection Cas showed him, against him! No one is perfect. I'm not saying he has done no wrong, but remember it's always Dean and Sam who go to HIM for help and advise. Remember when heleft forgood before they decided to call him back again? Blame them.

[chrllee8]

@FayeChan01 Cass said himself he knew what Crowley wanted but he was full to the brim with arrogance and pride. Dean did asked if he can help and Cass shot him down, Cass only wants to use Dean & Sam to capture the alphas and use them as bait to distract his own enemies or to stay out of the way, Cass never wanted their "help". And how can the brothers help Cass upstairs? As Cass reminded Dean, "you're just a man, I'm an angel". Cass thinks the brothers are beneath him.

[bleachfan178]

i don't think time ends ..People

[chrllee8]

And why in the hell does Cass consider himself the Winchester guardian when he freaking left Sam in hell, and gets angry at Dean for actually rescuing Sam? If this is his idea of being a guardian, then his idea of being a God is going to be bad bad, and worse.

[sasumekyoto34]

@chrllee8 Pride and arrogance, my friend....

[kamwrites]

@chrllee8 ......and you're watching what, exactly?

[SandrachenGaara]

@chrllee8 : I think he is right as being the guardian of the winchesters.. didnt he always saved them? he nearly always come when they call him even though he was busy with war... I think its not cass who did something wrong, (excluded the end where he playes god and being arrogant) i think the worst thing was that dean turned his back to cas, after all he did for him and sam!

[chrllee8]

@SandrachenGaara What kind of "guardian" leaves his "friend" in Hell? In Family Matters he knew that Sam was still in Hell and still lied about raising the soulless version. In Caged Heat he tells Dean to leave Sam in Hell to let the soulless version survive, and Cass never offered options or alternatives. Then he had the tenacity to yell at Dean in Like a Virgin for successfully rescuing Sam from Hell.

[SandrachenGaara]

@chrllee8 : No you misunderstood it. Cas got sam back from hell, but he didnt know that sam would come back without a soul. He said that in season 6 when they locked cas in the fire circle. He didnt tell them that he rescued sam from hell, because at that time dean had a family and cas didnt want to destroy that. Cas never offered options because he was desperated and didnt know what to do itself.

[chrllee8]

@SandrachenGaara But Cas did know by "Family Matters" that Sam was still in Hell and he still pretended he didn't know who raised soulless Sam, which he could have fessed up earlier in "Third Man" when Dean had left his family and was way back into the hunting game. Then in "Caged Heat" he continued to hide from his mistake by suggesting to Dean to leave things as they are, which meant leaving Sam in Hell. Even in the circle of fire he refused give a straight "no" or "yes" answer.

[SandrachenGaara]

@chrllee8 : Yes its true that he lied. I think he was afraid of the reaction from dean. and when they found out that sam was soulless he couldnt tell the truth.. i think in his place I had lied, too. And he didnt want to get sams soul back after one year, because after that long time it was tortured... I can understand cas actions. but I think cas had to tell the truth about the pegetory and ask dean and sam for help.. I think that was his biggest fault :(

[chrllee8]

@SandrachenGaara Then Cass is a coward. I think his "biggest fault" was abandoning Sam to Hell after fully realizing his mistake. At the very least Cas should NOT have discouraged Dean from trying to rescue his brother and if Sam dies from the hell-torture then at least Sam will find peace in Heaven because the SPN God always sent Sam to Heaven every time he died on earth. But apparently Cass rather stick his head in the sand and let another "suffer horrifically".

[SandrachenGaara]

@chrllee8 : I think you only are so bad against castiel because you are a sam-fan ... i love them both and dean too and i understand castiels actions.. he was wrong but at the end he saw his fault... I hope he will be again the old funny, loyal cas who is friend with sam and dean^^

[chrllee8]

@SandrachenGaara actually I'm a Dean girl :-D but thanks for the leap of conclusion just because I also love Sammy to pieces because Dean needs his brother like the rest of us need oxygen . I even doubt Cas saw his own faults in the end because he turned himself in due to losing control of his power, not because he thought he was wrong for mass murdering humans whose hypocrisy didn't match his own. Cass didn't even apologize to Sam's face for destroying the only protection between him and Hell

[SandrachenGaara]

@chrllee8 : I think his apology will come :) I mean till now he hadnt time to apologize, because he played "god" and got cracy and then he died...

[MrDarkkamui]

@chrllee8 Oh please get of your high horse!in the real world not everything is black and white!

[LordAniline]

@SandrachenGaara you would lie and condemn an innocent man to a torture prison just to cover up your own mistake? I hope you're not a judge in my town.

I noticed you didn't answer @chrllee8's part about allowing Sam the opportunity to return to heaven by first rescuing him from hell. It's always right to free an innocent tortured soul from hell because even if Sam goes insane atleast he won't be tortured for eternity and if he dies (on earth) then he will go to heaven.

[SandrachenGaara]

@LordAniline : Whats wrong with you? it wasnt cas who cast sam in the prison in hell!

He made down his wall but with the purpose to put it down after all the actions, but then he got "god" and got crazy and then he decided not to put it down.

To your second sentence: maybe cas was afraid that sam would get out of control and destroy everything and kill anyone, but I dont know exactly.

[LordAniline]

@SandrachenGaara but it was Cas who told Dean to leave Sam in the prison in hell, and that's it, no offer of options to free Sam from hell. Cas' excuse was roboSam will "suffer horrifically", but what did he think was happening to Sam NOW in hell? And then he turned around and blast apart the wall and deliberately caused Sam to "suffer horrifically", his own damn words.

[SandrachenGaara]

@LordAniline : Yes he said and did all of this what you are saying, but he had his reasons. Like i said, he was afraid that sam get out of control and does something terrible... Of course it was horrible for sam to be in hell, but its not like cas doesnt felt terrible about that. After all it was cas who got sam back from hell at the beginning of season 6, because he wanted to save him.

[chrllee8]

@SandrachenGaara actually Cas NEVER said he was worried about Sam getting out of control, Cas only said Sam could be "locked inside himself" and end up in a vegetative state (which did happen in Man Who Knew Too Much). Still, a hypothetical vegetative state is better than being in hell tortured for eternity, seriously, really Cas? And if a vegetative state really bothered Cas that much, then mercy kill him and release Sam to Heaven which was God's plan all along.

[LordAniline]

@SandrachenGaara after 3 seasons I don't care anymore about Cas "reasons" for his astronomically bad choices (especially when he had all the available information accessible to him) because he never learn from his trainwrecks and especially because inevitably it is Sam who, again, pays the steep price for Cas' actions.

[LordAniline]

@SandrachenGaara which episode did Cas say getting Sam out of hell will cause him to go out of control? Cas said in "Caged Heat" that the hell pain will drive Sam into a coma, which is a super lame reason for keeping Sam in hell because, hello, being OUT of hell is preferable to being IN hell!

I give Cas credit for wanting to rescue Sam as opposed to when Cas was ordered to get Dean out of hell, but then Cas worked against Dean in his efforts to rescue Sam from the hell.

[SandrachenGaara]

@LordAniline: Besides misha wanted to play a bad guy, so cas had to do all of this things ;) one person has to be the bad guy and this time - it was cas^^

[chrllee8]

If Cass gets written out of SPN then it's about freaking time because he's really gotten boring. Cass never owed his part in knowingly starting the apocalypse and then has the galls to tell Dean to leave Sam in hell, an innocent soul who stopped the apocalypse. Cass turning evil is no surprise, he's never taken personal responsibility and then to attack Sam who only has been kind to him? Cass is really an ass.

[sn54]

@chrllee8 thank you. The man died twice and they brought him back why idk

[AriSparkfist]

"Hey! Ass-butt!" ... never gets old.

[cullenkid4eva]

Are you kidding me? This is not him! Seriously, the dude has gone insane. Usually I'd be defending Castiel, but since he took down Sam's wall... there's no way I could forgive him like all the other times that he messed up... that is, until Sam does. And I did the same thing with Sam when he started the Apocalypse. I don't forgive him until dean does.

[FayeChan01]

@cullenkid4eva Maybe there was no excuse for him taking down his wall, but there was no excuse for Sam to stab him. I guess that makes them even....

[Mindaugas7100]

@FayeChan01 i agree on both things, they are even now, but have u seen season 7 'short' promo, Castiel tortured sam in 1st episode, make him bleed and said 'be thankful ofr my mercy' and he said the Castiel you knew is gone, fuck i believe we gonna have to kill Cass, 'sad+cry face'.

[scaryninja1693]

No one worry too much, the writers know full well the feelings of the fans towards Castiel. He pretty much became a full time regular alongside the brothers and Bobby from late season four to season six. I doubt they'd simply allow Castiel to remain evil, since he was supposed to be a temporary character but remained through sheer popularity. At the very least we'll see old Cas once more before he drifts off into crispy fried wings on someone's lawn.

[DarthBismarck]

@scaryninja1693 From what I've heard, SG and the writers are intending to have Castiel as the sole evil next season. A major theme of this show is the loss of friends and family: John, Mary, Jo, Ellen - need I continue? So the loss of Cas and his switch to the Winchester Target List isn't really so crazy. Plus the fact that the writers are having Death brought back in 7x01, so he can say he's bound to Cas and can't harm him tells me they're in for the long haul on this one.

[TenThousandthFist]

Death needs to teach Cas a lesson.

[elliex102]

I want to know what Castiel meant by "if you don't, we will both die again and again until the end of time". I guess that's something that we're going to find out in Season 7. =D

[Pozillaify]

He already is Evil. I watched the end of Season 6 as soon as it came out, Castiel gets the souls and becomes the new 'God' and then kills Raphael and lets Crowly escape. When Sam and Dean tell Castiel to return the souls to purgitoary he refuses and says "You will bow down to me.. I am... Your God"

[Mindaugas7100]

@Pozillaify do you even know why he lets crolwey escape? because he need someone he knows to run hell, look again video when crowley and cas speaks in hell, and listen to what crowley says about hell and running it.

[XxHyoga87xX]

@Pozillaify wait a min man. Did you forgot that God dnt care anymore and now this other angel guy want to bring to the devil back to put things back to where they were? I mean come on. Wats Castiel susposed to do? Since the whole show started whether they be demons or angels, humans are looked at like less than nothing. At less Castiel gave a fk. If he don't claim to be god then the other angel who dnt give a fk bout humans will. Long story short, you got a better idea?

[Pozillaify]

@XxHyoga87xX Not anymore, Castiel doesn't care about them. Hes evil. He has millions of souls and says hes a better God.

[XxHyoga87xX]

@Pozillaify No he said he can't think about it anymore cause hes fightin a war. I saw that last episode too when it came out. He does care, your takin wat he said out of context.

[Pozillaify]

@XxHyoga87xX Well, he might still care. But hes not showing it or hes been taken control by the power of the souls.

[XxHyoga87xX]

@Pozillaify I guess we'll see, I'm just sayin Castiel is fightin a war now, I don't see any help comin this time. And nobody else seems to care or use to care helpin. And losin is not an option. But I am mad at some of the angels tho, Like the fate one, "No one talks to me anymore!", I mean really? You get to have free will and you have a melt down now? lol

[Pozillaify]

@XxHyoga87xX I guess you're right. Castiel said himself 'I tried to make you see but you just WONT listen'

And he did this for them too, because if he didn't kill Raphael he would have redone the Apocolypse and undone all Sam, Dean and himself did.

[XxHyoga87xX]

@Pozillaify still i hope someone helps them out cause we all know its gonna get worse before it gets better. But I ask, when has it gotten better? O when is the new season?

[Pozillaify]

@XxHyoga87xX I'm kind of assuming castiel is going to be a fuck head and re-write an apocolypse or something along those lines, or he wont appear in season 7 at all because he may go to Heaven, OR the 'big man' (God) will step in and make an appearance in the series, and kill castiel or something.

[XxHyoga87xX]

@Pozillaify I hope cas pulls through.

[Pozillaify]

@XxHyoga87xX Same!

[FayeChan01]

It's time for his character to step up. He was nothing but a puppy for Sam and Dean, doing whatever they told him to do. Don't forget he left his place in heaven for them, killing the only family he knew.I think thats changed him alot. Ever since helping save the earth he feels he is theirs and earths guardian, he's taking it upon himself to protect everyone. Since God brought him back he's been trying to understand his role in everything.I don't want him evil, but glad he's growing.

[cybersunday07]

@FayeChan01 - He won't be evil. He's on a mission to save the world, but in doing so he's lost himself to the powers he's gained from gaining the souls. He's conflicted now.

[FayeChan01]

For all those who judge Cas because of his actions- think on this: He got to heaven to find out another one of his brothers is planning another apocalypse, the whole of heaven is in trouble. While he's trying to think of way way to stop Raph, he has to go back and save the boys from crowleys demons, AGAIN. The boys are in danger, he does not want them in another fight. He finds time to save them while trying to save the world, then they turn their back on him. Would you not be stressed?

[Crooklyn4]

@FayeChan01 He still could've been straight up with them since they are so close. He could've told Dean right after Sam fell in that he had the power 2 get him out or when both sam & dean were about 2 close i on Crowley when he burned the false bones. So he may have good intentions, but he gave a loyalty to the wrong side

[FayeChan01]

@Crooklyn4 i'm sick of argueing with batshit crazy supernatural fangirls who seem to hate me making bad comments against Sam and Dean. So i now say CAS,dean, and sam acted like idiots.

[MrDarkkamui]

@Crooklyn4 U have no idea what u are talking about so please shut up!

[IWalkWaterRuns]

@FayeChan01 you forgot one thing thou.. dean didnt turn his back on him so quickly like sam and bobby did. dean was hoping that all this nonsense, sam and bobby was talking about was nothing and there just thinking that maybe, there was a crack in the sam/dean/cas/bobby family and that something doesnt add up. but at the end, dean did think like sam, and bobby did, that's why the betrayal what cass did to dean, broke his heart. that's why dean drinks alot. dean protects his heart, by drinking!

[poophorsie]

@FayeChan01 yes, people like you makes me proud to be a part of this fandom.

[FayeChan01]

@poophorsie Really? I gave up on this fandom a while ago. Got tired of supernatural, and it's crazy fangirls. I'm just glad to see there are some sane fans out there.

[FayeChan01]

@poophorsie unless you meant that in a bad way, in which case I still don't care anymore..

[poophorsie]

@FayeChan01 no, it's not in a bad way. it's sad that you gave up on it, but hey, your choice right? :P your opinion was still a good one!

[FayeChan01]

@poophorsie Thank you very much. :) Who knows, maybe i will return to it one day. Now that I see there are sane fans like you still around. Instead of those that jump down your throat for saying one bad thing about their beloved characters. >.> Why are girls so extreme over hot guys?

[poophorsie]

@FayeChan01 I don't know. Let's face it, every character has there flaws, even if they're hot. The season is still not the best, in my opinion. But as least it seems like it's getting somewhere now. :)

[SandrachenGaara]

@FayeChan01 : Thats exactly what i think!!! He always helped sam and dean and then he makes one only one mistake and they arent friends anymore?! I dont like that cass was the bad guy in the end...

[FayeChan01]

@SandrachenGaara Guess they wanted to focus on making Cas the new bad guy, and Dean and Sam- the new arrogant dicks.

[M4ttM3224]

It's strange that Cas' was 'put back' and yet there is still a smudge of him on Bobby's face.

[CyneNoir]

I think Castiel's main mistake was overestimating himself/underestimating purgatory. He was probably planning to betray Crowley from the get-go, or at least thinking about it. I think he thought he could get the souls, smite Raphael, and put them back into Purgatory. Cas didn't expect to be overwhelmed by it. If he had been able to stay himself after absorbing the souls, everything would've been relatively fine.

[BetaArtemis]

@CyneNoir Yeah, I agree, it was a combination of pride and arrogance in his own abilities and being stuck between a rock and a hard place that pushed him into this. All I'm hoping now is that our little angel is fighting inside against all those souls trying to break free, who knows, maybe Cas can push them back, I can only hope.

[Amarouq]

Blueeeeeeeee eyes :D

[cmxiang]

still love you, cas.

[BroadwayPirate1106]

I'm sorry but am I the ONLY one who laughed at the writers/editors/directors little sense of humor there with the clip about standing up being the ass butt line?

[joseatorresn]

"dont worry?!...about them?what like lucifer didnt worry?or michael? or lilith? or alastair or azazel didnt worry?" when you think about it the boys are really impressive that list alone is awesome as to who theyve taken out........!!!

[sn54]

@joseatorresn besides alistair the rest was pure pis. Lilith committed suicide, Azazel lets just say john got out at the right time which i found strange and mikey and lucy the power of loe crap was just too much lol

[IronMarz52]

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Sorry, Cas, but you're an official idiot.

[BetaArtemis]

@IronMarz52 That may be, so was everyone else at one point or another on this show. Idiocy runs rampant.

[Pelerin985]

That's really a great idea to take Cas into the main character of this season!

I mean, we saw Dean running for escape damnation in season 3, Sam abducted by demon blood(and Ruby) in season 4, and finally the two boys trying to stop the Apocalypse and refuse their supposed destiny that Michael and Lucifer claims to be theirs...

That's really interesting to see more about Castiel, because it's a great and complex character, full of paradoxs, memories and more than all... doubt. 

[lizweinchester]

cas has a mind of himself and i think he is doing the right thing. HE IS protecting everything they have worked for and dean has to at leat listen to him and stop being the boss. how does he know he is right???

[MsDemonBunny]

Crowley may be trying to manipulate an angel, but I think Cas is well aware of that, kind of expects it. I wonder who is really using who here. Crowley does back down, but is that real, or game play on the demon's part?

[Castiel1123]

I raised him because I wanted him to be back on Earth doing his proffesion and hunting demons and monsters as usual, I just forgot to take his soul out of the cage, it was hard enough getting into the cage and taking him out incomplete.

[StormtrooperDaveJr]

@Castiel1123 lol.

[Alegreta122]

Castiel raising and bringing Sam's body back from Hell, with the intention of reuniting the boy's.

Cas was the only Angel who does not want Sam in Hell.

[SandrachenGaara]

@Alegreta122 : Yes thats my opinion, too. He was the only one who helped sam out of hell.

[2wolfan]

Cas: "Hey! Ass-Butt!" XD haha memories, cas is still learning^^

[Axia850]

Crowley is gonna have ah heart attack...



[IronMarz52]

So did Cas raise Sam without a soul on purpose or not?

[BetaArtemis]

@IronMarz52 I think this made it pretty clear, Cas thought he had saved Sam, he thought that he had brought Sam back, but he should have realized that after all Sam did during that year, that should have been the sign that something had gone wrong. Cas didn't raise Sam without a soul on purpose, this clip admitted it as much.

[MsDemonBunny]

@BetaArtemis I agree. I think a lot of people got a tad confused with this. Castiel is an angel with a certain level of power. Maybe an archangel could have done it proper, but this may have simply been the best Cas could do at the time, "new and improved" notwithstanding.

[LisaRJ95]

@IronMarz52 No, he thought he raised all of Sam, he was obviously very wrong

[SandrachenGaara]

@IronMarz52 : No, cas thought that he got sam back with a soul ...

[Amarouq]

Whoa...that certainly was an impassioned (if slightly upsetting, since he talked about killing Winchesters) performance by Crowley :D props to the actor!

[Amarouq]

Aw Cas...poor Cas D:

[Likaella]

Yeah, I know but sam paid for it don't you think? I mean, more than a century in the cage with the two yahoo, torture and all, and then stuck with the guild of what his body did to innocents and to the people he loves while he was in the pit, AND his life is threating permanently with the wall in his head.... See, Sam is not perfect, he made mistakes, but he always willing to try to fix the mess. Cas said to dean "nothing to fix cause nothing broken" Sigh...

[BetaArtemis]

@Likaella The thing is, when Sam was making those mistakes, he said the same thing to Dean that it wasn't broken, so really, Cas is walking the same path that Cas is now walking, and I'm sure once the souls are out for good and he can finally think with a right mind, Cas will realize that he has responsibilities to fix his mistakes. It took Sam about two seasons before he found his redemption at the end of Season 5, so it may take Cas a while before he can find his way too.

[333evil2]

@Likaella he did not torutue anyone in the cage because no human souls go into the cage lol they go to regular hell. lucifers cage is way deeper into the pit. it is just a cage tht god built for lucifer lol

[Likaella]

@333evil2 Lol Yeah I know I meant Sam being the only one tortured by Lucy and Mikey... Lucky him...

[333evil2]

@Likaella yeah but now sam knows what happened when he was soulessn and what happened to him in the pit, but in the flashbacks of hell i dont see lucifer or michal torturing him all i see is sam burning and im guessing tthat is what is happening to them 2

[Likaella]

@333evil2 Oh don't worry I'm pretty sure we gonna learn more in season 7 about what happened to Sam in the cage! I mean, there has to be more than the burning right? In 6x07 Crowley talk about the cage and said: "I can't imagine how it's like in there... and I can imagine so many things." or in 6x11 when Balthazar said to soulless Sam: "No, you don't want it, cause Michael and Luci are banging it as we speak" or the warning of Hell-Sam in 6x22: "you don't want to know, trust me... "

[Likaella]

@333evil2 all of this has to mean that there is more than the burning right? RIGHT? lol!

[333evil2]

@Likaella that is all what i see in the flashbacks

[MrDarkkamui]

@Likaella Oh u make me sick!

[Likaella]

Cas raise sam from the pit? REALLY? Without his soul, Broken, and cold? Look, I like castiel and all, but if you take a good look at all the episode since 6X01... all the things soulless sam did and said, (and I'm talking about the things we know...) All the deads from Eve and his monsters... all the pain dean went through because of soulless sam...

Then you get what it might take a long shot for Sam and Dean to forgive Cas this time.

[Jay2300Cee]

@Likaella How about all the things Sam did.. and yet Dean forgave em.. eventually lol

[MoogleCrunch]

@Likaella Didn't Cas just say he didn't know Sam was missing his soul, that he should've seen that something was wrong when Sam walked away from Dean? "Sometimes we're lucky enough to be given a warning.. This should've been mine." Also, Sam chose a demon over them all, but Bobby, Cas, and Dean forgave him.

[Likaella]

@MoogleCrunch No really, I think that Cas knew that Sam was soulless, although he didn't raised him like that on purpose. but he knew the whole time and that why he can't respond when sam asked him if he did it on purpose. I guess that the "big fault" of cas this season that Ben Edmund talked about, or one of them anyway. for the warning, I thing it's the warning to tell him "See, you're not god, you can't raise all of him, you can make miracle" like "beware castiel, first mistake."

[Likaella]

@MoogleCrunch But cas ignore the evidence under his nose, sam soulless turning his back to his brother. I find really difficult to believe that Cas didn't know that Sam was soulless. He's an angel, the one who put him out of the cage. He knew immediatly that he done wrong. But like he said he was "arrogant"; and hybris. so He ignore the first warning.

As for Sam choosing Ruby over Dean and Bobby... he paid a great deal for it. and he was willing to try to fix his mistake. So far Cas is not.

[BetaArtemis]

@Likaella Cas said it very clearly that he did not know that Sam was soulless, he thought he brought all of Sam back, but he should have taken Sam's actions after being brought back as a sign that he didn't do it properly. There could have been numbers of ways that Sam came out wrong, it wasn't until Cas stuck his hand in Sam's chest that he knew the soul was missing. Cas was also busy fighting a war that he probably didn't have that much time to be distracted.

[BetaArtemis]

@Likaella And also, Sam wasn't fixing his mistake until it became too late, until everything blew up in their faces and Sam realized what was happening that he really wanted to change and stop. Cas is just falling under that same path, but right now he hasn't got a lot of choices, better the devil he knows than Raphael blowing the crap out of everyone. To Cas, it's the lesser of two evils. He'd rather let Crowley rule Hell than let Raphael rule Heaven.

[Likaella]

@MoogleCrunch And finally, Sam didn't choose a demon over all of them, he choose a demon over Dean and bobby. at that time, Cas knew about the last seal but keep his mouth shut because he thought that what god's will. At that time, Cas was not friend with Sam, only with Dean. Sam didn't own any kind of loyality toward Castiel back then. So it's really not up to Cas to forgive anything that Sam may have done. He's after all the one who free him from the panic room. But I still love Cas, always.

[oodsong]

Funny how Mark Sheppard uses a British accent in Supernatural and an American one in Doctor Who.

[Ryujin65]

@oodsong what does he use on the show Leverage then?

[oodsong]

@Ryujin65 I wouldn't know, I haven't seen it.

[66supernatural]

Thnx for the scene

[Yellowbulma]

Aww Cas doesn't want anything to happen to Sam and Dean =3

Such a shock it was Cas that got Sam!!

[RockstarKelsx]

"Hey Assbutt" Heh, that will never ever get old.

[gfahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh]

@RockstarKelsx The best bit in this in "THOSE DENIM WRAPPED NIGHTMARES".