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  • wow there are 666 comments

  • your mom is atheist

  • The only people today who can actually emulate the abrahamic prophets god are illusionists like Steven Frayne and Criss Angel. The "faithful" who have claimed connection for DECADES, like Pat Robertson, can't do these things and claim that those who do so are "evil" and get their "powers" from satan. Who follows the "father of lies" there?

  • According to the ConRan and the Buy-a-Bunch-of-Bull, (both Abe's who believe in the exact same father-god, but totally despise each other) this magic genie they follow was ALL-POWERFUL and did amazingly AWESOME feats like healings, granting real life to dead people and magical stuff like flying horses and fiery circles THOUSANDS of years ago (according to Ancient Myth), but now can't do shit except making pictures on stuff like a dog's ass. Have you seen that LOL?

  • @MystryBox, Yeah you really look the type to properly know how to focus for more than 5 seconds let alone meditate, Lol...look why don't you listen to honest atheists who've had life after death experiences so you know what they have to say right? They don't believe in God, spirit world etc so they should'nt have to say anything even closely related to this topic right? Bet my balls they've visited the spirit realm because that's where we all go when our body passes.

  • @gamecollect101 those aren't life after death experiences, they are near death experiences. And they are again all in the mind. This is proven by the research that shows that what the people observe follows the culture they are in. For example here people imagine they see a white light, heaven, loved ones etc. If they were born somewhere else they imagine they see what that culture expects them to see. It's basically brain dreaming. Does it surprise you unconscious people dream?

  • @MystryBox, I take that back, don't ever dabble with Ouija boards.

  • @gamecollect101 I have one, it's a piece of cardboard and a plastic puck. Any power it has is completely in the mind of the person using it. Unless the person using it is a gullible dolt that thinks the cardboard and plastic have some supernatural power it does nothing. For the dolts, it might do something (though nothing supernatural) it all comes from the dolt, not the cardboard and plastic.

  • @MystryBox, The man who proclaims the Meta theory, I would tell you to find a Ouija board and channel an entity to see who answers your questions but I would'nt suggest that to my worst enemy.

  • @gamecollect101 You do know that the Ouija board was invented by Elijah Bond in 1890 right? And its intended as a fun boardgame? And that we should really be putting tm after every Ouija because its currently trademarked by Hasbro.

  • @MystryBox, Now keep in mind that the human body has to be in a spiritual frequency (supernatural) to see ghosts which is why Christians encounter the supernatural often, the reason there's not much evidence is because these entities pull a great deal of electrical power and shut down cams 99.9% of the time and that's a proven fact, same occurence that happens during u.f.o encounters.

  • @gamecollect101 "spiritual frequency" entities pulling electrical power? You're speaking utter nonsense. How old are you?

  • @gamecollect101 where do you get your informatin? Youtube?

  • @MystryBox, Just take a few steps back, google "I saw a demon" or something similar, I'm sure there's tons of testimonies, or checkout celebrity ghost stories here on youtube since rich folks have minimal to gain, please just check it out on your down time for entertainments sake, tell me what you think.

  • @gamecollect101 testimonies are not good evidence. It's why science doesn't accept such evidence. People think they see things all the time--it means nothing unless what they see actually happened and that takes confirmation. Nearly 1% of the population has schizophrenia and will see or hear things that aren't there (for just one example disease). So why do I care if some people think they saw a demon? Show me a confirmed demon not testimonies of people claiming they saw a demon.

  • @MystryBox, Don't get mad now, remember were just trying to help each other now, your just in deep mud and I'm trying to pull you out.

  • Science is exactly that... just science.

  • Prove to me what we looked like from the very beginning.

  • @gamecollect101 If you want to research it yourself google "Purgatorius" for an image of an early mammal thought to be what we descended from. But why should I do research for you when you'll simply reject it because you don't except science because it conflicts with some absurd ancient story about talking snakes and people coming from ribs that you accept on faith? There are scientific answers out there if you care, but you don't. So why are we even talking?

  • @MystryBox, Were not insects or animals bonehead, were humans, I can agree to adaptation to climates, gravity and even oxygen levels but if u think we could have six arms by the year 5000 your smoking some serious stuff brother.

  • @gamecollect101 You asked a question and I answered it with the current scientific explanation. From a scientific view humans are animals so "bonehead" right back at you. You're free to reject the scientific view as you wish but don't pretend you question doesn't have an answer--you just reject the answer because it conflicts with an old book written by ignorant ancient fishermen that you believe on faith.

  • @gamecollect101 Humans are animals.

  • @MystryBox, Who is the ultimate source of human replication, your parents? Lol, there's nothing else man could've combined with other than a woman even since the beginning of time, so where did the first man and woman originate from? One perfect male human and one female, yes one of each had to be made simultaneously to make the first offspring possible, otherwise one would exist without the other. Who made the first two of everything on earth?

  • @gamecollect101 the ultimate source of HUMAN replication is the replicating life that was prehuman. Apparently you don't understand the fact I explained about replicators changing over time due to environmental pressure. At any time males and females in a population can reproduce with each other but the genotype of the population shifts over time. In that process over long periods of time populations can change form significantly and spawn off branches of other species as well.

  • @gamecollect101 I don't think I can give a college level biology course in youtube comments (even if I was an expert which I'm not), so if you're interested in further educating yourself google "evolution primer" or something and start reading. Note that you don't have to "believe" in evolution, but that is the scientific explanation that answers your questions. If you don't care about scientific explanations go ahead and stay ignorant. It's no skin off my nose either way.

  • @MystryBox, Your point? Where did the very first humans that inhabited earth come from? Lol dude you are lost.

  • @gamecollect101 life is a self replicating form. Every self-replicating form (humans included) come from a previous replicator. If replication is imperfect and replication happens in an environment of non-random selection (which is the case for life on earth) the replicators will change over time to adapt to environment. Humans came from non-human ancestors, but they were still earth life and a replicating form. So my answer stays the same: look at your parents.

  • Give me concrete evidence of how we got on earth.

  • @gamecollect101 go look at your parents.

  • Why did you have spam on your bookshelf. 

  • see what creationists have done? forced sane atheists like ourselves to have to think about useless things and make youtube videos instead of doing constructive things like worshipping the flying spaghetti monster.

  • @naturalistmind lol, true.

  • Be sure you can kick the theist ass because when I did this the guy screamed at me and tried to hit me with the bible.

    I can tell you first hand that state troopers in Texas do not take kindly to men trying to hit children with bibles. In fact that cop had a special stick just for hitting people.

  • @torrid426 I'm actually pretty big and people seldom mess with me. But regardless in real life I don't go around preaching atheism at people. People choose to view my videos on their own--I'm not in anyone's face unless they chose to have me there.

  • @MystryBox

    I asked a street preacher "how does god know he does not have a god, he is all alone with no one to teach him and you cant see your god"

    He screamed at me and tried to hit me with a bible. State trooper beat him bloody and unconscious.

    I would guess you are a bit over 6ft and around 250. I was 7. Now its different but I have still had "good Christians" Freak out and take a swing during what I thought was a calm debate.

  • @torrid426 street preachers always seem more than a little "disturbed" to me. Consider yourself lucky you weren't an alter boy.

  • I now have a headache...

  • Are you one hundred percent sure that what you are saying about Jesus is true?

  • @MrRtis yes, I'm 100% sure Jesus didn't write any of the books in the bible. They were written by men long after Jesus died... men who used the legend of Jesus to start their own religion with all sorts of formal structure like Priests and Deacons and goofy rules like women being silent in church. They created a formal religion that Jesus probably would have fought against in his time.

  • @MystryBox John, Matthew, Mark, and Luke walked with Jesus while he was on the earth! And I think it's pretty obvious that they wrote much of the new testament. And all of the old testament was written by people before Jesus' birth. I think... you don't know what you're talking about.

  • @GuitarGage870 actually if you knew anything about bible scholarship you'd know that's not likely true. Matthew and Luke copied from Mark and another unknown document Q... not something an "eye witness" would need to do. John was written quite a bit later. None were likely eye witnesses but merely repeating oral history 70 years or more later. Certainly they weren't eye witnesses to things like Jesus' birth (the story of which is full of made up bullcrap to "fulfill" OT prophecy). etc

  • @GuitarGage870 the bottom line truth is nobody even knows who wrote "matthew" or "mark" or the rest! They are anonymous documents written by unknown authors! The early church assigned the names to them later. This is true, look it up.

  • @MystryBox Well, I'm going to do something that no atheist would do, apologize. Though it's clear who wrote some of the books of the Bible, some, no one knows. But has anyone read 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness". Though we may not know who put the pen on the paper, ultimately, God has written or has fully inspired all scripture.

  • @GuitarGage870 what, so because one book somebody wrote a long time ago said all scripture is inspired by god it must be true? When that was written the bible wasn't even complete nor were the particular books in it assembled yet! Do you even know how the bible came to be put together? Do you think god came down and assembled the books and told us it was all scripture and all inspired? No, it was men.

  • In any investigation there will be eye witnesses that miss something that someone else sees ..if Jesus was made up they all would have the same story ..that is how legal investigative tell if they are lying ....check this out for yourself don't take my word for it

  • @MrRtis actually investigators look for dependencies in details on a story and that exactly what we find in the gospel accounts of Jesus. They don't care if the larger story fits because collusion on the larger story is easy. It's examination of the details that expose lies.. and the bible stories are full of errors in the details.

  • It takes a lot to believe the way atheist do, to ignore what is right in front of you so you can believe what some idiot says on a website or atheist book or where ever you get your info from so I guess you would have to have a high standard , but for me I think Jesus lived and died and rose from the grave. I firmly believe Jesus is who he said is

  • @MrRtis oh god, the irony.

  • @MrRtis you are badly mistaken. See my video "The Bible's Missing Book" for a video that points out the errors in your above comment about what Jesus said.

  • The four gospels, eyewitness accounts of Jesus written at the time when if they were not true other witnesses could have debunked them but we find other historic documents that could have denied the gospels but didn't ..I have done my research have you?

  • @MrRtis they aren't eye witness accounts. They borrow from common sources, talk about things the writer wasn't around to witness (e.g. Jesus' birth), they conflict with each other, they talk about obvious legends and myths (e.g. saints rising from the graves and wandering around), etc.  If that's your idea of sound documentation to put your belief in, well let's just say I have higher standards than you.

  • Seen it there are four books in the Bible about Jesus. Matthew , Mark ,Luke and John. The books about Jesus are there all four of them. Most historians consider the to be historic documents.

  • @MrRtis yes, 4 gospels and NOBODY EVEN KNOWS WHO WROTE THEM!!

  • Who said anything about religion .....I am a Jesus follower. I believe the Bible is 100% true. Jesus is the the way

  • @MrRtis as a jesus follower who believes the bible... see my video "The Bible's Missing Book". You'll like it.

  • Do you really believe in evolution something that can not be observed..are you really that dumb.......Jesus can save you Romans 10:13 , Acts 2:21

  • @MrRtis evolution being false doesn't make your religion true. Evolution is irrelevant, which is why I don't bother to discuss it.

  • mmm spam :)

  • The awkward moment when the Christian god goes to the higher hell for not believing in the higher god =p the irony.

    Like the video, by the way, why don't you make videos anymore?

  • Oh thank god...

  • Ok ok ok Can't we all be in peace? God taught us to love everyone so stop arguing you will never change either of each others points of view so just find something we can all have a conversation about that we all agree on. Or just leave each other alone and let each other believe what we all want to!

  • @MystryBox, i don't know if you are aware that you just described a form of gnosticism by saying that the christian god believes he is the only one true god when actually there is one superior to him. nice

  • So why are your claims better than mine? Mystrybox

  • @MrRtis I'm not sure what you mean. What claims am I making exactly?

  • So is someone going to tell me if Santa is real or not?!

  • @iTzMyFancySauce Santa isn't real ... But the Tooth Fairy totally is!

  • Wait... Santa isn't real?!

  • In Luke 21:33, Jesus said that regardless of what happens to the world, his words will never be forgotten. Here we are 2000 years later and the words of Jesus are all around us: Christianity has spread to people around the world and the Bible is the world's most circulated book. Of all the people who have ever lived, can you think of a single person who could have made this claim more effectively than Jesus - that his words would never be forgotten?

  • Soul on it..that's as crazy as you telling me the Bible is man made because the scientist are just men also...the only difference is Jesus fulfilled and foretold so many prophecies that it would be impossible for the Bible not to have been inspired by God..I have never seen a scientist that can do what he did.and you never will

  • @MrRtis yes, I'm willing to bet my soul on it. You can't avoid taking a position and "betting your soul" against someone else's version of reality because there are many different religious views of reality out there. Even you disagree with most of them. See my video "The Most Common Christian Argument Refuted" for more on that line of reasoning if you're interested.

  • @MrRtis also see my video "Does Prophecy Prove Christianity?" for my comments on the supposed fulfilled prophecies of Jesus.

  • How well there sure are a lot of them . So even if half of them were the brain ,the other half might be real..are you willing to bet your

  • No offense but you are a depressing person.

  • @iTzMyFancySauce did you say that to the kid who told you Santa was really your parents?

  • Yes the body does that but where does the induviduality of that person go? Thier mind and soul?

  • @iTzMyFancySauce the mind dies with the brain. The soul is a concept not something real and it dies with the brain too.

  • Mystrybox there is so much evidence that you are wrong .....near death experiences have proven that people have seen signs on top of buildings and heard what the doctors were saying during surgery the even knew things that only could have been known by standing above and watching ..there is no way they could have been able to describe the doctors tools when their head was blocked from view ...this is not my claims as I know you are about to say these are proven facts the brain couldn't invented

  • @MrRtis sorry but those are not proven facts. Those are testimonials passed around by credulous people that want to believe. The reality is such claims don't stand up to any rigorous study. NDEs in particular have a cultural slant: people see what their culture tells them they should see. This tells us it's all in the mind.

  • What does happen after death?

  • @iTzMyFancySauce I think we can all observe what happens when we die. the body stops functioning and returns to its elements. mind/self are lost with the brain.

  • Quick Question: Do you believe in life after death?

  • @iTzMyFancySauce not the the sense that any "self" or personality will remain after death, no.

  • Do you believe the evolution theory?

  • @MrRtis It's difficult to answer your question as you asked it because you're using the term "believe" in a religious context. No I don't "believe" the theory of evolution like you "believe" Jesus was god or some such. I accept the theory of evolution as the leading scientific theory for explanation of the diversity of species, just as I accept a thousand other leading scientific theories. However it wouldn't change anything for me if it were replaced with another theory tomorrow.

  • Your atheist faith is in a man like this for your observations?

  • I think Richard Dawkins book " God the delusion " is nothing more than an angry atheist trying to turn Christians against Jesus ...that book has been disproven by Dr. William Lane Craig in a debate ..Dr Craig says the the arguments Dawkins presents is absurd ..and not even on an intelligent level

  • @MrRtis I highly doubt you've read Dawkin's book. I think you're lying to me. Even I haven't bothered to read it.

  • So there is more proof of God than .than there is proof atheist are accurate and correct..is that what you are saying

  • @MrRtis no.

  • What makes atheist accurate and true ? Also

  • So what makes the science of these observations accurate and true?

  • @MrRtis nothing. except that we all share the observation and agree that it happened. It's the basis of all our knowledge. You can pretend that means nothing so you can believe bullcrap in a book of myths, but you're only fooling yourself.

  • Ohh wait a minute ...is that why you go by the name mystrybox?

  • Looks like to me that free thinkers are under the control of these scientist who will make things sound so good ..you might as well say they have placed you in a box and you can't see outside of the box..look outside the box mystrybox who are these people why would they want you to believe their deceitful lies

  • @MrRtis science is just formal observation. Nobody worships a scientist. The reality is you follow men who claim they know about god and they need you to put faith in their claims. Science is observation... it doesn't require any prophets (or even scientists). If you read what you said above you're exactly describing the box you're trapped in... how your reality is decided by men (prophets).

  • Who do you think pays Dawkins ? Hmmm not to worry I will find out

  • I told you there is a connection with bill gates and devil worshiping ..he is a member of luci trust ...why would a self proclaimed atheist support a web site that sells satanist books ..no need for name calling..sucks to be wrong doesn't it

  • And the devil wrote those atheist books also...haha so take that..that's what I think

  • @MrRtis see my video "Is Belief in Satan Reasonable?" for my view on your absurd "devil" belief.

  • I bet Bill gates Warren buffet Ted turner and all their buddies are devil worshipers and claim to atheist

  • @MrRtis sorry but you're an ignorant moron. It's not your fault, it's your upbringing.

  • How do you know ? You say that man wrote the Bible and it is made up ...guess who wrote all the science for atheism books.? The bible never changed but there books change every year

  • @MrRtis duh, men did write the bible. And duh yes science and atheist books are written by men. The fact that the bible hasn't changed is a FLAW not something good. Science actually WORKS and PRODUCES because it changes... it changes to better reflect what is most likely true as our knowledge grows. The bible is static, dead. It produces nothing (except perhaps misery and war). It is full of ridiculous stories written by ancient men.

  • Ok then what does that say about atheism. Nothing so why not stop making these stupid post and come back with something more earth shaking.

  • Yes sadly Bil and Warren both want to reduce our population down to 2 billion.Go get yourself one of those atheist flu shots and see what happens a few years afterwards..just joking about the atheist part.I am no fan of these two guys ...Ted turner is involved in this also..with the rockerfellers ....did you know that there is a rumor that the rockerfellers worship the devil...hmmmmm scary stuff..from people that promote atheism...just saying

  • @MrRtis it's not rumor that some theists like you are freaks who think people worship the devil. Newsflash genius, atheists don't believe in the devil.

  • Does Bill Gates have a population reduction plan?

  • @MrRtis I don't know. Why don't you ask him?

  • Families in need let's se what happens

  • Just for kicks I am going to call a local atheist association and ask for help and see what happens...My church is very involved in helping n

  • @MrRtis go ahead. The largest philanthropic organization is run and funded by atheists (namely bill gates and warren buffet).  Just keep in mind "atheism" isn't really a church nor religion so you won't find charity groups under that. Look for secular charity groups like The United Way and "churches" like Universal Unitarians--that's where more of the atheists being charitable will be found.

  • Now tell what made you "awaken" as you say?

  • True in my eyes it is a fall. A preacher is something great.

  • @iTzMyFancySauce if what the preacher has learned isn't actually true (and for most religions in that world that must be the case), he's wasted his entire life and identity on a myth.

  • These authors are Sam Harris, Daniel C. Dennett, Richard Dawkins, Victor J. Stenger and Christopher Hitchens. Have written books debunking Christians ...This just tells me that the Bible is right .because it talks about these things ..and further more strengthens my belief in Jesus

  • I guess atheist make every thing bend their way as Christians bend things our way. It is strange that Christians are always the target for atheist why is that? I have never heard someone swear using any other religion..I also think that most Christian churches are corrupt and don't follow Jesus. Which is a sad thing.

  • @MrRtis duh, it's because you're in a Christian dominant culture. Go somewhere with a different dominant religion and the atheists will be targeting that one. For myself most my videos apply to many religions, but some target Christianity in particular because I used to be Christian and it's what I know. So put away your silly persecution complex, Christianity isn't targeted because it's special, it's just popular here.

  • Yeah God loves this ...and if you are a follower of Jesus you will love him also. I admire his witty nature and I think he is a great guy.I have never tried to insult his beliefs .some people go to church but do they really have a relationship with God . Many study the Bible and just don't want that connection. I understand MystryBox you once were wanting to be a preacher. I just hate to see someone fall like this

  • @MrRtis fall? I think you mean wake up. ;-)

  • Ok so what about God loves all his children? So god must surely love our athiest friend here shouldn't he?

    All I'm saying is just leave it be.

  • Mystery box It deserves more investigation than you have giving it before you can disprove it..they talk about the planets themselves and a planet they call nibiru . Our scientist have discovered this planet around 1983 calling it planet x

  • @MrRtis it's not my job to disprove every wack-job claim that goobers can dream up. It's their job to convince everyone else and the experts in particular. I'm no expert (and again really don't care) but from my quick google of this matter the experts don't accept this fringe claim. It's out there with big foot and aliens having made the pyramids.

  • ur not funny... at all.... god is not an athiest

  • The Quran has only been around 1400 years on earth the old testament and the Sumerian tablets go back way past the birth of Jesus

  • Cgu no it can't ...what I am saying is there is no way the Sumerians knew what they did without alien help. Go research this for yourself ..look at their tablets showing the planets

  • Babalon working

  • 2 A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. Proverbs 18:2

  • There is NO middle ground friend; either you are on the Lord's side, or the sinful world's side. You are either on the side of the Lord Jesus Christ, or the side of Satan. We read in Revelation 3:15-16, "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." God prefers an outright heathen, than a compromiser who straddles the fence and can't make up his mind. That's

  • You truely have taken the meaning of DipShit to a WHOLE new level.

  • My point is 6000 years ago the Sumerians documented on clay tablets the solar system. Our scientist had no clue until the late 1800's how was this possible?

  • @MrRtis it's possible because this tablet you talk about doesn't actually depict the solar system but some group of circles that appear (to us using hindsight) as solar-system-like, especially to people like you that want to believe in unlikely things that fit their magical worldview.

  • The claims that I have made were written on tablets 4500 to 6000 years ago. You can't ignore the facts unless you just don't want to believe something really crazy took place back then ..mr mysterybox

  • If he is right then he might be able to explain how the Sumerians knew about the planets and DNA ,the flood and the fallen angels

  • Make a point itzmyfancysauce ....I am only having a discussion never really asked you for an opinion

  • Yes I am Jesus is my savior but I find your ignorance unexcusable.

    Just leave this intelligent man alone.

  • Really saved

  • Itzfancysauce looks like you are the one that is not finding out the answers ..instead you just show your ignorance by calling out names..you can tell a Christian by their fruits.. R U really savr

  • Out at the far fringes of our solar system Neptune is sometimes the second to the last planet. Its average distance from the sun is 2,788,000,000 miles (4,486,100,000 kilometers). That's more than 30 times Earth's distance from the sun. Neptune can't be seen without a telescope.

  • You cannot see Neptune from Earth.

  • Until 1846 the existence of Neptune was unknown to the world. Astronomers noticed that Uranus was moving along its orbit faster than expected, but later they noticed that it had slowed down. Apparently there was a mystery planet tugging at Uranus. In 1843 John C. Adams, a young English astronomer and mathematician, began working to find the location of this unknown planet. Adams predicted that this planet would be about 1 billion miles (1.6 billion kilometers) farther from the sun than Uranus.

  • And they knew it was blue because at some points when you see in the sky without a telescope it's blue.

    And dipshit is not my family's name it's Yünstöm.

  • Yes I am and I am also Christian.

    I just can't stand utter stupidety and when people talk shit to this man for saying what he believes.

  • Water water water..ice is water.  Itzfancysauce. R U SAVED. Jesus Saves

  • Neptune is similar in composition to Uranus, and both have compositions which differ from those of the larger gas giants Jupiter and Saturn. Neptune's atmosphere, while similar to Jupiter's and Saturn's in that it is composed primarily of hydrogen and helium, along with traces of hydrocarbons and possibly nitrogen, contains a higher proportion of "ices" such as water, ammonia and methane.

  • Don't call me by your family name itzmyfancysauce. How did they know Neptune is blue is the big question

  • Hey dipshit Neptune is mostly gas not water its called neptune cause it has a blue tint.

  • Don't believe it. Search for your self.. I know you blasphemed the Holy Spirit on that web site. But you did it out of ignorance so maybe you can e forgiving...what was you thinking what if these thing are true ..you made a terrible mistake Mysterybox

  • The fallen angels ...this is why God had to flood the earth..those angels married daughters of men..some where giants .there is evidence of giants all over the world even in America

  • They were also aware of DNA, and their tablets say their people were genetically altered by their gods. How does the first known civilization know about this information??? For gods sake they just emerged from the caveman era! Their tablets state they were informed by their gods, the "Anunnaki"(which in their language means "Those from the heavens") Who are the Anunnaki? They obviously were not a myth for their tablets have been proven with correct information about our solar system and DNA.

  • As a matter of fact, not only did they know about all the planets in the solar system, but they knew of one more- and in 1983, scientists announced their belief that there was a planet beyond Pluto. Even more astonishing is the fact that they even knew the nature of these planets- for example, they knew that Neptune was mostly water. So, how did they know?

  • @MrRtis you make a lot of unsupported claims and simply expect me to believe them. If you think some ancient peoples knew something they should've have then that's quite a miracle. However I don't think there's any miracle, I think there's you making bad inferences from some silly website with bad information you read about. I really don't care either way.

  • @MrRtis Did you know that around the first century AD muslims were way more technologically advanced than medieval christians? Especially in the field of astrology Muslims were way ahead of medieval Europe. According to your logic that god exists because he granted knowledge and technology to his people, his people are the muslims and not christians. So your argument can just as well be applied to the muslim faith.

  • Yea and it's not that hard to look up at the sky

    Maybe they did that.

    Ever wonder?

  • how did the Sumerians know about the planets and math ? I think this is evidence of the fallen angels. How else could they have known.

  • @MrRtis they didn't know anything that couldn't be observed. For example they knew about planets in our solar system that can be observed. They did not know about bacteria, DNA, black holes, and a zillion other not so easily observable things that they would've known about if they were "fallen angels," aliens, or whatever.

  • As far as evil goes have you ever heard of aleister crowley?

    

  • . Paul's point in doing this is to compare the transgression by the transgressor to the redemption offered through the Redeemer. In this chapter, Paul makes it clear that, although Adam and Eve committed the first sin, we are guilty on the basis of our own sin:

  • @MrRtis yes, I'm quite aware of the mythology, absurd as it is.

  • In chapter 5 of Romans, Paul describes how We are justified before God on the basis of faith in Jesus Christ,6 who came to earth to die for the sins of mankind.7 The chapter takes us back to how we got into the current mess we are in - back to our original parents, who committed the first sins.

  • @MrRtis yes, punishing decedents for the sins of ancestors... something ancient peoples with primitive sense of morality used to do. Today we recognize such things as immoral.