Listen to Santorum closely, he says "...on their Oil Program..." He meant to say Nuclear Program, but I'm pretty sure he thinks Iran is located somewhere on Mars, hence a Moon Colony would be a wise investment, as argued by his little buddie Newt!
Iran still could potentially just be using these fuel rods for "peaceful" purposes.
However what's clear is that Iran is announcing these actions, because they want us to think they are making weapons(even while denying it).
Regardless even if they were building nuclear weapons they could never use them.
We need to offer to allow peaceful nuclear energy as long as Iran allows and passes annual inspections of the program. Refusing that sort of deal would make them look suspicious even to the...
@sicktoaster The regime NEEDS an enemy to keep its hold on the people. I think we should be offering diplomacy, just to show how much they need the conflict, because we all know they will reject it
The regime also needs some allies(Venezuela for example). If with diplomacy we can offer them a deal of which if they refused they would know it would completely destroy what little international credibility they have left then they would take the offer.
And that would force them to actually start paying attention to the needs and interests of their people instead of blaming everything on the west.
I just know if Obama starts a war with Iran he's not getting my vote in November, and who ever is his opponent will get my vote even if his opponent turns out to be someone more hawkish.
I know many other people who supported Obama like I did in 2008 because he seemed like the peace candidate.
If Obama proves me wrong then I and many other people I know will vote for his opponent to send a message to all the politicians to stay true to their base.
@sicktoaster I think the next move is on the Iranians, they have the trigger now. I don't believe Obama want's a war, which is why he refused Israel's demand for war, which is why he chose sanctions rather than bombings. He's doing his best to avoid war. If we put a Republican in office, I believe the likelihood for war is almost assured. Yes, It's all on Iran now, and the choices they make.
Saying we might need to go to war with them is like a person saying he might need to step on an ant in order to defend himself from it.
If a war does start I have no doubt it will involve Obama using some action Iran commits as an excuse to go to war. Another Gulf of Tonkin incident only this time in the Persian Gulf.
I know that I will not buy it and I know plenty of people who supported Obama in 2008 who will not buy it either.
@sicktoaster And if they attack our naval ships in the Persian Gulf, what should our response be? What if they close the strait, what should our response be? I understand your position, but the region is vital to the West.
It is only vital to the special interests(mainly Oil) that have hijacked our country's politics.
It would suck, but the worst that would happen is gas prices would go sky high and then maybe people would actually use public transportation or ride their bikes instead of driving around in those overpriced SUVs and other gas guzzlers.
Every nation's military should be just for defending that nation and that nation alone. Let Saudi Arabia and co(which are all tyrannies BTW)...
@sicktoaster The economy is fueled by oil, more so than most people realize. losing those reserves would be disastrous to the West. It doesn't begin and end at the pump. The effect would be widespread within our economy. Yes, there are some big boys involved, but we are players too. I wish we could ignore the region.
We CAN. As my grade school teachers would've said I'm sure if we physically decide to ignore the region it will happen and it will be ignored.
The economy is NOT worth a war, especially when it threatens to start World War III, could provoke China.
I rather deal with a depression than the end of the world.
Also consider the moral implications here. It's starting a war OVER MONEY. If I have to do without for a while I would prefer that to something so IMMORAL.
I agree there are extreme circumstances that justify foreign military intervention such as genocides and I wouldn't totally rule out other circumstances but that should not be handled unilaterally. NATO or the UN military need an expanded role.
The fact is we don't own the Persian Gulf or he Strait of Hormuz. It's not our territory in the first place. It isn't worth what some experts believe could turn into WW3.
@sicktoaster Genocide? No, I don't agree with that. But we are in a position that requires our attention. Nobody wants to kill off a people. I do agree that more countries should be taking part if this turns into a shooting war.
I don't believe it will evolve into a world war, though I understand many do feel that way.
I heard China has threatened to attack us if we attack Iran.
That spells World War right there.
It just isn't worth it.
Besides that the economy won't be that badly effected. The way the media uses words it makes it sound like that's the only way to move the oil. It's NOT. Why not just transport the oil across Arabia to the Red Sea?, then it won't need to go through the Strait of Hormuz and sure gas prices will go up but the economy won't be that badly effected.
My point in voting in a Republican if Obama starts another war is disapproval voting.
The politicians will not pay attention to voters if we are not willing at times to vote for the other guy in order to penalize them for not living up to their promises even if it means voting for a worse candidate.
If Obama starts a war in Iran I will vote Republican this November to keep future presidents honest.
If you've been paying attention you'd realize Ron Paul is the safest candidate if you want to avoid a war. Granted I dislike his views on social service spending and abortion, but avoiding global war is my number one concern as a voter and an American citizen.
Many Democrats have gotten us into wars. Woodrow Wilson did even after promising not to go to war, and he did it by provoking Germany by transporting weapons aboard the Lusitania to Britain and then saying the ship...
Even before the military-industrial complex was even formed you couldn't trust the government not to provoke wars behind our backs and then lie to the public about it.
What ever excuse they try to give us this time why should we trust them? Why shouldn't we suspect it is just another Lusitania or Gulf of Tonkin? And while we may have 'won' WW1 the US' participation set the stage for WW2.
The US government is like the boy who cried wolf. That boy has cried wolf too many times for me to trust it if it says we've been attacked and are just going to war to defend ourselves.
There has to come a time when a person or institution has lied so much about something that you cease to trust it.
Lusitania, Gulf of Tonkin, WMD in Iraq
I say 3 strikes and you're out! Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I will NOT be fooled again and I implore my fellow...
@sicktoaster Let's hope this isn't a false flag attempt. If it is an attempt to goad Iran into attacking, let's hope they are smart enough to resist the temptation. Last I read, we have three carriers heading for the region. It certainly doesn't look good. I appreciate your views.
And if something happens how will we know it isn't an attempt.
I'm not going to "hope"(by which you mean to blindly trust). I KNOW history. I will take my nation's history into account.
The fact is we can NOT trust the US government to tell the truth about this sort of thing. They have proven it time and time again. It is more reasonable to assume the US is fabricating or that they goaded Iran if something happens than otherwise given the history.
Just finished a post on my blog about a "nuclear Iran" @ thesocialmatrix dotblogspotdotcom check it out and let me know what you think I'm trying to get as much traffic to my blog as I can.
It's their nuclear aspirations that concern us the most. Who really trusts the Supreme Leader with a nuclear arsenal? Nobody. Also, if they were not bordering the Persian Gulf, nobody would give a damn what they did. It's their sorry fate that they are where they are and have a lunatic regime in control of their country.
I dunno... You Iranians better hang on to your asses. I have a bad feeling that the shit is going to hit the fan very soon. I don't know from which direction it will come, maybe Israel, maybe America. It just doesn't look good for you people.
@pradhan17 If we can prevent it, why shouldn't we? Iran needs nuclear weapons? Who are they going to use it on? Really, who would they bomb if given the opportunity?
Iranians Testing ? Supersonic Mach 3-12 Ballistic Missile called 'Carrier-Killer' Because of speeds typically reaching Mach 10 there are currently no ship-board defense mechanisms that could counter this type of Ballistic Missile Watch vd called "Iran Persian Gulf Missile, Khalije Fars Ballistic Anti-Ship" just think about the shower of 10 or 12 one-ton cluster bomb warheads falling on USA /ISREAL bases in the middle east , The Russian, and the Chinese Deadliest Trap Ever Laid for USA lol
@ErtyOpas from $2.5 billion in 2000 to $29.3 billion last year, according to China Customs trade figures, 7.6 billion gas pipeline deal, which was signed in June 2010 Iranian natural gas to Pakistan /INDIA. Turkey trade to surpass $15bn' Iran's electricity network is linked to the power grids of seven neighboring countries, including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan etc ..... Iran is pitifully alone keep dreaming dont wake up.
@ErtyOpas China/ Russians, India reject US-led sanctions on Iran, What kind of superpower is it, the world wonders, that is willing to go to the eleventh hour to convince the world, which holds its banking reserves in US Treasury debt, that the US government will default on the debt?The Decline and Fall of the American Empire,I USA will emerge as biggest loser from closing Strait of Hormuz
@AllianceWithChina1 There are many more nations involve, my friend. Everybody will pay a price if America neglects to take action--including Iran. Nonetheless, the Iranian goons are all talk and no action. The strait will stay open and American vessels will fly their flag high as they pass through. It's all show. As for the Israelis, that's anybody's guess. They could go nuclear on Iran, but I hope not because I don't believe the Iranian people are deserving of such terror.
@ErtyOpas lets hope reason wins! but Is Iran the new Japan – 70 years after the Pearl Harbour incident that led to a US declaration of war and an unspeakable nuclear nightmare?“The question was how we should maneuver them [Japan] into firing the first shot…” then US secretary of war Henry Stimson is quoted in records from November 1941
@AllianceWithChina1 Let's hope Iran doesn't attack. If you're right they are simply doomed to fail. I do have faith that Obama and his administration are opposed to another war. Yes, we are applying pressure, but we've yet to drop a bomb. How Iran reacts in the coming days will show the path.
@ErtyOpas Tehran would not initiate a military confrontation but would retaliate harshly if attacked, "there is no guarantee that will not launch a preemptory strike by closing the Strait of Hormuz and cutting off [this] energy lifeline for an indefinite period of time." It added, "Should additional sanctions be imposed on Iran, especially in the domain of oil export, Iran might keep [its] oil from leaving its territorial waters.sanctions are an act of war
According to the United States sanctions are just sanctions not an act of war.
BUT closing the Strait of Hormuz is essentially just sanctions imposed on the United States by Iran.
If we can sanction them it's only fair that they can sanction us back.
We should be moving the oil across Arabia. It's a simple solution. We don't have to actually use the Strait of Hormuz. The Strait of Hormuz is the most convenient route but not the only route.
@ErtyOpas historical parallel, before or after: the sinking of USS Maine in Havana Harbour in 1898, triggering the American-Spanish War; the torpedoing of the Lusitania in 1915, prompting US entry into World War I; the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in 1964, escalating America’s genocidal war on Vietnam; and the 9/11 “terror attacks” in 2001, presaging Washington’s ongoing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
@AllianceWithChina1 If it wasn't so apparent, considering their threats, you might have an argument. Have you been watching the YouTube exposure of Iran's military in the strait? If we do lose a ship in the Strait of Hormuz, it wont be by our own hand.
@ErtyOpas did you know the Usa has been pushing for a 480km pipeline with a capacity of 2.5 million barrels/day[ that the UAE is planning to build in order to bypass the Strait of Hormuz in order to neutralize Iran's ability to disrupt the world's oil supply: As for the plan... to construct a pipeline from the UAE that will be an alternative in times of emergency in case the Hormuz Strait is closed, we should note that the entire territory of the UAE is within range of Iran's missiles
@ErtyOpas did you know the Usa has been pushing for a 480km pipeline with a capacity of 2.5 million barrels/day[ that the UAE is planning to build in order to bypass the Strait of Hormuz in order to neutralize Iran's ability to disrupt the world's oil supply: As for the plan... to construct a pipeline from the UAE that will be an alternative in times of emergency in case the Hormuz Strait is closed, we should note that the entire territory of the UAE is within range of Iran's missiles
And thus iran must be stopped. It's not only in the interests of the western world but it's in the interest of the majority of muslims that they shouldn't get a nuclear weapon.
@PERSIAisHISTORY Who said I'm happy. I think it's a shame. I'm hoping that if America does go to war with Iran, it will involves only surgical strikes, limited to military and government assets. Nobody wants to invade the country. We all know how passionate Iranians are about their turf, even though they are subjects of a theocracy. Now if Israel takes action, the results will be terribly more destructive, and there is a slim chance of a nuclear detonation in Iran's territory. Sorry.
No one really thinks iran will use the nuclear weapon, but they will use it as an umbrella to protect them whilst they project their bullshit onto other countries. It isn't a standoff between USA and islam. Sunni muslims make up 80% of the muslim population and they all can't stand Iran. The gulf arab countries hate them more then the US. Iran is a shiite theocracy and their #1 goal is to dominate the Sunni muslims. There are zero sunni mosques in Tehran and yet there is a synagogue. Funny huh?
As the economy implodes they take us to war. Have we learned nothing from the failed adventures in Vietnam, Iraq and Afganistan? We are bankrupt financially and morally; excuse me, our leaders are.
As an american, I support irans right to produce weapons. Though nuclear weapons are deemed useless as it was banned from use after WW2 (if used, you can expect the free world armies to run you up the ass). Its basically a step to independence for Iran. On that note I say I also support israels right to independence from the ongoing forceful pressure from iran and other neighboring islamic states. Well know in the end I guess, but the war as it is is pointless on all fronts. This is its product.
@Snapshot290 Lol, Israel is far ahead of independence, they are controlling your country and your resources and financial system via the loby. Also they did JFK and 9,11.
Even with nuclear arms, Iran can never be a threat to the nation security of America. Maybe a possible threat to Israel, and that's what they should address, not some bullshit about threat to America.
@AccessDenied55 haha it seems you don't know much, Iran has a type of supersonic antivessel missile which still there is no antimissile system able to track it.
@PERSIAisHISTORY I honestly don't know how countermeasures are arranged. I'm sure that if it was a problem, they would not be sending two carrier groups to the Persian Gulf. Should the Iranian government hold to it's threat, we shall soon see how effective their missiles are. If your'e certain of victory, you should be encouraging action on the part of Iran.
@PERSIAisHISTORY We can easily attack from outside the range of those missiles. Don't fool yourself in thinking that America isn't prepared for Iranian tactics. We probably know more about Iranian offensive capabilities than do the Iranians.
I struggle with Iran and nukes. I don't like the idea of them having such a weapon but.... They are vilified for developing a nuke yet it's just fine for the US and others to be sitting on piles of them. Looks like a case of do as I say not as I do. How about some consistency?
So Iran got their hands on a few bottle rockets. And refined some rabbit turd pellets. Good job.now what? Do we get a bumper sticker saying proud parent of a Jr. modeler rocketeer? I know Iran wanted to show us it's new toys but daddy is buzy with adult stuff.like helping the world.arms race is over Iran.
I live in America & even I'm afraid of these Santorum-like knuckleheads. Can't imagine being any other people who aspire to high-technologies & having to face the possibility of being vaporized by these Hitler-like Christian nutz from America, who put on $30,000 suits, smile nicely to the camera, push a button that could wipe out whole villages off the map 8K miles from home, and THEN go to Church and sing songs about peace, church, & community ... and how THE WORLD should be more like them...
@HenryDavidT I know someone who worked for the US Air Force. The US has enough nuclear power to blow up the world. I think Iran should be allowed some nukes as well, bring it Iran! The end is near. Oh it is so exciting!
@HenryDavidT We don't want more nukes in the world. The US is dismantling their nukes. The Ayatollah is a muslim extremists. Iran has said things about wiping out Israel. Even if Iran did not intend to nuke Israel or Irans leaders were not religious extremists we STILL don't want them having nukes because theres no way to be sure their country is stable. They just had civil unrest due to falsified elections recently. Nukes get in hands of terrorists we have big problems.
I see the usual crowd of anti-American, anti-Israeli trolls are here...you can tell them by the fact that their vocabularies and intellect restrict their ability to comment without the use of vulgarity...or reason for that matter...
Rick the dick Santorum! Saying what he thinks we want to here! Don't these people have minds of their own? I'll bet the idiot hasn't even been out of the country! Too scared! He wont go unless he has Air Force 1 and a million body guards! Pussy!
Iran hate our government not it's people! Because we killed their leader, and then put the Shaw in, they hated the Shaw, but were stuck with him!
Kinda like they do to us, we hate Obama, but they put him in, we hated Bush, they put him in, we hated Clinton, they put him in! I think we all know how Iran feels! The only difference is that we can get rid of ours, if people had any balls!
600 Billion dollars? Wtf the goes my taxes! So we have our own oil, why don't we leave everybody else alone! If we would sell ours cheaper then we would still control the market!
After listening to Santorum, I know we don't want him in the White house! What a clueless twit!
this is the classic anti-obama sentiment at work. If he doesn't impose the sanctions the haters complain that he's being soft on defense, If he does and oil prices go up the haters will complain that he's killing jobs. I'll honestly be the first to say that Obama is lying sack of sh--, and there are things I can legitimately complain about, but wtf? seriously. Obama could get down on his knees and suck Reagan's dead zombie c--k and these idiots would complain that he didn't suck it hard enough.
2012 will be a year for war mongering if no the real thing. I think another great war (WW3) is approaching hope to shit I'm wrong. This time it will be all out nuclear. Anyone who keeps abreast of geo politics in todays world are fearful of this.
Iran has live reactors and nuclear enrichment facilities. Bombing those would release radiation that would go as far as India. Scientists have estimated that at least 3 million Iranians would lose their lives as a result of the radiation.
@goooooooooooooz No credible scientist would give a ludicrous death toll like that. Most of Iran's important installations are underground so radiation exposure will be limited when the facilities are buried.
fuck face, Iranian reactors aren't underground. Is the Bushehr nuclear reactor underground? And did you even google before coming here and throwing up all over the cyber spapce?
go to ucsusa[dot]org and read some of the stuff that they have put up. They haven't even published anything on the Bushehr reactor yet but Kuwaiti scientists regularly put out reports that a strike on Bushehr would literally erase their country.
@goooooooooooooz i think those numbers are very misleading and undermines any so called scientist or experts that have said that. the nuclear facilities are buried deep under the ground so radation would be limited. and another thing, irans uranium is very contaminated with fluoroxid (or whatever it was called) and that in itself is not radioactive. so the window off opportunity is still there.
US war machine using mainstream media to scare the unwitting into support for the slaughter of innocents. I have a feeling if we don't do anything then it'll be much more than 1million+ killed like in Iraq.
they are pushing Iran to close the straight of Hormuz. Using sanctions, to send oil to $300-500 a barrel. That way, the us can use them 2 nice new battleship aircraft carriers its has sitting in the Parisian gulf. To kick start WW3. and distract the masses from the glooming economic pest they call the euro. and the people whom occupy the 1%
Let Iran make Nuclear Rods. I don't fucking care, if the use it make ballistic nuclear warheads. I don't care if Israel wants to arm up too. Heck even the UAE is buying weapons from the US Military. Let all arm up. because we are humans. We crave conflict, we desire war. Because in the history of man, War never changes.
@bozzeed I can admit that lives are being lost on both sides but I know and YOU know that Israel has done everything POSSIBLE to achieve peace in the region. You can't change the mind of people who's hate all but consumes them. Ancient hatred is the reason for this ongoing conflict
@bozzeed i heared that j.f.k was opposed to israeli nuclear program,and we all know how he ended.irrael stolen 269 kg of nuclear material fom america and nobody answered for thar.i wonder what would happen if ifan or other country take only 1 kg
@gshooting or, they should bid for a full membership in the united nations to be a homeland for the palestinians, but united corruption, which created the whole problem from the beginning, did not aprove the bid thanks to opposition from israel and united corruption, and they say they want peace.
@gshooting they are not terrorist and there never was any terrorists until the zionists came to the middle east, israeli organized melitias: Irgun bombing king david hotel, Lehi assassinated United Corruption mediator Folke Bernadotte, haganah the greatests terrorists group that because the terrorists IDF killing all civilians and robbing their lands. this was even before WWII
@gshooting "We must expel arabs and take their place" DB Gurion 1937. "[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs." Menachem Begin. 1982 "(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." Yizhak Shamir 1988 "I would have joined a terrorist organization." Ehud Barak......and these are just the prime ministers!!! now go read a history book YOU FUCKING RETARD.
@gshooting very valid logical conversation the most agressive country on earth is yisrael i can't belive i used to support israel until few weeks ago ewww im ashamed of myself !!
The War is coming and everyone talking about peace!...There will never be peace without the Jewish Messiah, but first he will have to kill all evil sinners..
@superlynn27 Then i guess HE will have to start in America, Work his way West to Europe, where most of the worlds PORN Movies, Alcohol and drugs are made. Specially Amsterdam where women are sold behind glass windows
I guess the war on Terror is nothing more then the war of introducing western lifestyles to people who stay away from immoralities and wickedness
In the Muslim world Alcohol and Porn are illegal. And in the west where its made, they are trying to find new customers. We say Never!
& if you believe what THEY say, go back to burying your fucking head in the sand and send YOUR & your SENATORS kids off to fight them! & if you don't believe what THEY say, at least you are AWAKE! WAKE UP your neighbors and join the revolution and fight for YOUR RIGHT to be free! Dump the theiving, lying, backstabbing DemoRepublicrates into the prisons that they built for the people who smoke pot! Hang Bush & Cheney for TREASON! Re-investigate 9-11! Eliminate the Fed! Eat the RICH!
Hey terrorists... if you do attack the United States please do us all a favor and don't kill innocent people... please direct your attacks directly at Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC.... thank you ^^
@tjohn1986 lol! if you werent so stupid it would be funny unfortunately there are so many morons like you out there its no wonder the world is the way it is...dont tell me next you be telling me the yeti is real or little green martians in flying ships from the planet vulcan. switch off your tv, eat organic food and for gods sake read a fucking book.
@lumpfish99 Some retarded drivel. Didn't say anything about yeti or martians or tv. Leave it to a conspiracy nutjob to ramble incoherently about unrelated shit. All I said was read the findings of fact from a legitimate district court. Stay on your meds nutbag!
@lumpfish99 then you should watch ABC, CBS, NBC & Fox News for YOUR news! God knows that THEY aren't OWNED! God knows that THEY show you the headlines that THEY are TOLD to! God knows that the sheeple in the world want to keep their heads buried in the sand with their asses in the air so that THEY can continue fucking them in the ass because They know what's good for THEM! You must be one of THEM! Not me! I have a brain & I use it determine the TRUTH & FIGHT to be a free man, not a sheeple!
@lumpfish99 You must listen to ABC, CBS, NBC & Fox for your news! God knows that THEY aren't OWNED! God knows that They only show what news THEY are told to report! God knows that THEY know what is good for the SHEEPLE to keep their heads buried in the sand with their asses in the air so that THEY can continue fucking them out of EVERYTHING! You must be getting sore & tired of buying anal lube! Not me! I have a brain and use it to determine the TRUTH & Overthrow our LYING, Theiving Politicians
I would sugpport iran as much as I am ok with other country having a nucleur program only if it becomes democratic and respect all their citizen and human rights. otherwise, iran is a threat to the whole world.
Occupy Earth.
bmw200000 5 days ago
you guys calling this propaganda are fucking retarded Ahmadinejad announced this news himself, so if anybodys lying its him.
theSicilianToe 1 week ago
Listen to Santorum closely, he says "...on their Oil Program..." He meant to say Nuclear Program, but I'm pretty sure he thinks Iran is located somewhere on Mars, hence a Moon Colony would be a wise investment, as argued by his little buddie Newt!
thearchitect27 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
watch?v=dOP0lhpQ614
UpsilonEpsilon 2 weeks ago
I smell buttshit fuck you NWO
chingman999 2 weeks ago
American people are brainwashed by news like this. Let's be HONEST with ourselfs: USA+ISRAEL = no.1 Zionist TERRORISTS in this world!!
onder1188 1 month ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
NUKE IRAN. They are trying to build nukes. They will nuke Israel which will start WW3. If we nuke Iran now:
* we save Israel
* we stop WW3 starting now
* set example to other countries don't try to make nukes which stops WW3 in the future
NUKE IRAN TODAY TO SAVE MILLIONS/BILLIONS IN THE FUTURE!!
XMansv 1 month ago
Bias garbage
TheStimplefiend 1 month ago 6
...countries in the world that still support Iran such as Chavez's Venezuela.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
Iran still could potentially just be using these fuel rods for "peaceful" purposes.
However what's clear is that Iran is announcing these actions, because they want us to think they are making weapons(even while denying it).
Regardless even if they were building nuclear weapons they could never use them.
We need to offer to allow peaceful nuclear energy as long as Iran allows and passes annual inspections of the program. Refusing that sort of deal would make them look suspicious even to the...
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster The regime NEEDS an enemy to keep its hold on the people. I think we should be offering diplomacy, just to show how much they need the conflict, because we all know they will reject it
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
The regime also needs some allies(Venezuela for example). If with diplomacy we can offer them a deal of which if they refused they would know it would completely destroy what little international credibility they have left then they would take the offer.
And that would force them to actually start paying attention to the needs and interests of their people instead of blaming everything on the west.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster It would be great to remove the adversarial element from their politics and ours. Maybe both nations would be at a loss without it. LOL!
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
I just know if Obama starts a war with Iran he's not getting my vote in November, and who ever is his opponent will get my vote even if his opponent turns out to be someone more hawkish.
I know many other people who supported Obama like I did in 2008 because he seemed like the peace candidate.
If Obama proves me wrong then I and many other people I know will vote for his opponent to send a message to all the politicians to stay true to their base.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster I think the next move is on the Iranians, they have the trigger now. I don't believe Obama want's a war, which is why he refused Israel's demand for war, which is why he chose sanctions rather than bombings. He's doing his best to avoid war. If we put a Republican in office, I believe the likelihood for war is almost assured. Yes, It's all on Iran now, and the choices they make.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
We have the largest military in the world.
Saying we might need to go to war with them is like a person saying he might need to step on an ant in order to defend himself from it.
If a war does start I have no doubt it will involve Obama using some action Iran commits as an excuse to go to war. Another Gulf of Tonkin incident only this time in the Persian Gulf.
I know that I will not buy it and I know plenty of people who supported Obama in 2008 who will not buy it either.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster And if they attack our naval ships in the Persian Gulf, what should our response be? What if they close the strait, what should our response be? I understand your position, but the region is vital to the West.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
It is only vital to the special interests(mainly Oil) that have hijacked our country's politics.
It would suck, but the worst that would happen is gas prices would go sky high and then maybe people would actually use public transportation or ride their bikes instead of driving around in those overpriced SUVs and other gas guzzlers.
Every nation's military should be just for defending that nation and that nation alone. Let Saudi Arabia and co(which are all tyrannies BTW)...
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster The economy is fueled by oil, more so than most people realize. losing those reserves would be disastrous to the West. It doesn't begin and end at the pump. The effect would be widespread within our economy. Yes, there are some big boys involved, but we are players too. I wish we could ignore the region.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
We CAN. As my grade school teachers would've said I'm sure if we physically decide to ignore the region it will happen and it will be ignored.
The economy is NOT worth a war, especially when it threatens to start World War III, could provoke China.
I rather deal with a depression than the end of the world.
Also consider the moral implications here. It's starting a war OVER MONEY. If I have to do without for a while I would prefer that to something so IMMORAL.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
...Let them take care of themselves!
I agree there are extreme circumstances that justify foreign military intervention such as genocides and I wouldn't totally rule out other circumstances but that should not be handled unilaterally. NATO or the UN military need an expanded role.
The fact is we don't own the Persian Gulf or he Strait of Hormuz. It's not our territory in the first place. It isn't worth what some experts believe could turn into WW3.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster Genocide? No, I don't agree with that. But we are in a position that requires our attention. Nobody wants to kill off a people. I do agree that more countries should be taking part if this turns into a shooting war.
I don't believe it will evolve into a world war, though I understand many do feel that way.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
I heard China has threatened to attack us if we attack Iran.
That spells World War right there.
It just isn't worth it.
Besides that the economy won't be that badly effected. The way the media uses words it makes it sound like that's the only way to move the oil. It's NOT. Why not just transport the oil across Arabia to the Red Sea?, then it won't need to go through the Strait of Hormuz and sure gas prices will go up but the economy won't be that badly effected.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
My point in voting in a Republican if Obama starts another war is disapproval voting.
The politicians will not pay attention to voters if we are not willing at times to vote for the other guy in order to penalize them for not living up to their promises even if it means voting for a worse candidate.
If Obama starts a war in Iran I will vote Republican this November to keep future presidents honest.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster Republicans scare me. The last Republican president embroiled us in two wars.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
If you've been paying attention you'd realize Ron Paul is the safest candidate if you want to avoid a war. Granted I dislike his views on social service spending and abortion, but avoiding global war is my number one concern as a voter and an American citizen.
Many Democrats have gotten us into wars. Woodrow Wilson did even after promising not to go to war, and he did it by provoking Germany by transporting weapons aboard the Lusitania to Britain and then saying the ship...
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster I heard on the radio that Ron doesn't consider himself a serious contender.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
If I vote for him in 2012 it will be a protest vote.
He could seriously win though if the protest vote idea catches on with dissatisfied Democrats.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
...had no weapons.
Even before the military-industrial complex was even formed you couldn't trust the government not to provoke wars behind our backs and then lie to the public about it.
What ever excuse they try to give us this time why should we trust them? Why shouldn't we suspect it is just another Lusitania or Gulf of Tonkin? And while we may have 'won' WW1 the US' participation set the stage for WW2.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster You have to recognize that the US isn't the only player in this world. There are conflicting interests involved...
Buddy, my daughter wants her computer back. I'm gonna have get back with you. Hold on...
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
The US government is like the boy who cried wolf. That boy has cried wolf too many times for me to trust it if it says we've been attacked and are just going to war to defend ourselves.
There has to come a time when a person or institution has lied so much about something that you cease to trust it.
Lusitania, Gulf of Tonkin, WMD in Iraq
I say 3 strikes and you're out! Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I will NOT be fooled again and I implore my fellow...
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
...Americans that they refuse to be fooled by any skeptacle the government tries to sell the American public.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@sicktoaster Let's hope this isn't a false flag attempt. If it is an attempt to goad Iran into attacking, let's hope they are smart enough to resist the temptation. Last I read, we have three carriers heading for the region. It certainly doesn't look good. I appreciate your views.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas
And if something happens how will we know it isn't an attempt.
I'm not going to "hope"(by which you mean to blindly trust). I KNOW history. I will take my nation's history into account.
The fact is we can NOT trust the US government to tell the truth about this sort of thing. They have proven it time and time again. It is more reasonable to assume the US is fabricating or that they goaded Iran if something happens than otherwise given the history.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Just finished a post on my blog about a "nuclear Iran" @ thesocialmatrix dotblogspotdotcom check it out and let me know what you think I'm trying to get as much traffic to my blog as I can.
Sagefrakrobatik 2 months ago
It's their nuclear aspirations that concern us the most. Who really trusts the Supreme Leader with a nuclear arsenal? Nobody. Also, if they were not bordering the Persian Gulf, nobody would give a damn what they did. It's their sorry fate that they are where they are and have a lunatic regime in control of their country.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
I dunno... You Iranians better hang on to your asses. I have a bad feeling that the shit is going to hit the fan very soon. I don't know from which direction it will come, maybe Israel, maybe America. It just doesn't look good for you people.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
Iran has every single right to have nukes. these fucking americans can't see other country progessing. fuck these whites.
pradhan17 2 months ago
@pradhan17 If we can prevent it, why shouldn't we? Iran needs nuclear weapons? Who are they going to use it on? Really, who would they bomb if given the opportunity?
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
Iranians Testing ? Supersonic Mach 3-12 Ballistic Missile called 'Carrier-Killer' Because of speeds typically reaching Mach 10 there are currently no ship-board defense mechanisms that could counter this type of Ballistic Missile Watch vd called "Iran Persian Gulf Missile, Khalije Fars Ballistic Anti-Ship" just think about the shower of 10 or 12 one-ton cluster bomb warheads falling on USA /ISREAL bases in the middle east , The Russian, and the Chinese Deadliest Trap Ever Laid for USA lol
AllianceWithChina1 2 months ago
@AllianceWithChina1 You're a dreamer, I think. Iran is pitifully alone, which will be proven should they close the strait.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ErtyOpas from $2.5 billion in 2000 to $29.3 billion last year, according to China Customs trade figures, 7.6 billion gas pipeline deal, which was signed in June 2010 Iranian natural gas to Pakistan /INDIA. Turkey trade to surpass $15bn' Iran's electricity network is linked to the power grids of seven neighboring countries, including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan etc ..... Iran is pitifully alone keep dreaming dont wake up.
AllianceWithChina1 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas China/ Russians, India reject US-led sanctions on Iran, What kind of superpower is it, the world wonders, that is willing to go to the eleventh hour to convince the world, which holds its banking reserves in US Treasury debt, that the US government will default on the debt?The Decline and Fall of the American Empire,I USA will emerge as biggest loser from closing Strait of Hormuz
AllianceWithChina1 2 months ago
@AllianceWithChina1 There are many more nations involve, my friend. Everybody will pay a price if America neglects to take action--including Iran. Nonetheless, the Iranian goons are all talk and no action. The strait will stay open and American vessels will fly their flag high as they pass through. It's all show. As for the Israelis, that's anybody's guess. They could go nuclear on Iran, but I hope not because I don't believe the Iranian people are deserving of such terror.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas lets hope reason wins! but Is Iran the new Japan – 70 years after the Pearl Harbour incident that led to a US declaration of war and an unspeakable nuclear nightmare?“The question was how we should maneuver them [Japan] into firing the first shot…” then US secretary of war Henry Stimson is quoted in records from November 1941
AllianceWithChina1 2 months ago
@AllianceWithChina1 Let's hope Iran doesn't attack. If you're right they are simply doomed to fail. I do have faith that Obama and his administration are opposed to another war. Yes, we are applying pressure, but we've yet to drop a bomb. How Iran reacts in the coming days will show the path.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas Tehran would not initiate a military confrontation but would retaliate harshly if attacked, "there is no guarantee that will not launch a preemptory strike by closing the Strait of Hormuz and cutting off [this] energy lifeline for an indefinite period of time." It added, "Should additional sanctions be imposed on Iran, especially in the domain of oil export, Iran might keep [its] oil from leaving its territorial waters.sanctions are an act of war
AllianceWithChina1 2 months ago
@AllianceWithChina1
According to the United States sanctions are just sanctions not an act of war.
BUT closing the Strait of Hormuz is essentially just sanctions imposed on the United States by Iran.
If we can sanction them it's only fair that they can sanction us back.
We should be moving the oil across Arabia. It's a simple solution. We don't have to actually use the Strait of Hormuz. The Strait of Hormuz is the most convenient route but not the only route.
sicktoaster 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas historical parallel, before or after: the sinking of USS Maine in Havana Harbour in 1898, triggering the American-Spanish War; the torpedoing of the Lusitania in 1915, prompting US entry into World War I; the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in 1964, escalating America’s genocidal war on Vietnam; and the 9/11 “terror attacks” in 2001, presaging Washington’s ongoing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
AllianceWithChina1 2 months ago
@AllianceWithChina1 If it wasn't so apparent, considering their threats, you might have an argument. Have you been watching the YouTube exposure of Iran's military in the strait? If we do lose a ship in the Strait of Hormuz, it wont be by our own hand.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas did you know the Usa has been pushing for a 480km pipeline with a capacity of 2.5 million barrels/day[ that the UAE is planning to build in order to bypass the Strait of Hormuz in order to neutralize Iran's ability to disrupt the world's oil supply: As for the plan... to construct a pipeline from the UAE that will be an alternative in times of emergency in case the Hormuz Strait is closed, we should note that the entire territory of the UAE is within range of Iran's missiles
AllianceWithChina1 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ErtyOpas did you know the Usa has been pushing for a 480km pipeline with a capacity of 2.5 million barrels/day[ that the UAE is planning to build in order to bypass the Strait of Hormuz in order to neutralize Iran's ability to disrupt the world's oil supply: As for the plan... to construct a pipeline from the UAE that will be an alternative in times of emergency in case the Hormuz Strait is closed, we should note that the entire territory of the UAE is within range of Iran's missiles
AllianceWithChina1 2 months ago
1:39 Why do British people pronounce his last name as Obomber?
kxmode 2 months ago
@tixmastr add to that Libya = no nukes = invaded
zutu70 2 months ago
And thus iran must be stopped. It's not only in the interests of the western world but it's in the interest of the majority of muslims that they shouldn't get a nuclear weapon.
jedherul56 2 months ago
@jedherul56 why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapon? is nuclear weapon bad?
PERSIAisHISTORY 2 months ago
@PERSIAisHISTORY What will they do with it. So far, Irael has shown a great deal of restraint--they could have burned Tehran by now.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas and why are you happy dumbass, your soldiers will die because of Zionists.
PERSIAisHISTORY 2 months ago
@PERSIAisHISTORY Who said I'm happy. I think it's a shame. I'm hoping that if America does go to war with Iran, it will involves only surgical strikes, limited to military and government assets. Nobody wants to invade the country. We all know how passionate Iranians are about their turf, even though they are subjects of a theocracy. Now if Israel takes action, the results will be terribly more destructive, and there is a slim chance of a nuclear detonation in Iran's territory. Sorry.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
No one really thinks iran will use the nuclear weapon, but they will use it as an umbrella to protect them whilst they project their bullshit onto other countries. It isn't a standoff between USA and islam. Sunni muslims make up 80% of the muslim population and they all can't stand Iran. The gulf arab countries hate them more then the US. Iran is a shiite theocracy and their #1 goal is to dominate the Sunni muslims. There are zero sunni mosques in Tehran and yet there is a synagogue. Funny huh?
jedherul56 2 months ago
why the fuk do they call it a nucklear crisis ......nothings exploded yet ?
fukushima was and still is a fkn nuclear crisis..u know reactor blowing up
radiation circling the globe the same will be of irans nuclear reactors if they
are bombed while active
like destroying the world with more radioactive fallout
is great way to prevent iran aqquiring nuclear bombs
PanjshirGuerrilla 2 months ago
Well done Iran, may Allah keep your motherland safe. From your Pakistani brothers.
SonnyA89 2 months ago
As the economy implodes they take us to war. Have we learned nothing from the failed adventures in Vietnam, Iraq and Afganistan? We are bankrupt financially and morally; excuse me, our leaders are.
ronheri 2 months ago
Iran only has a few nukes so would lose in a war anyway.
Aiursrage3 2 months ago
When is war starting is america going to kill more people and when
TheIrfanxz44 2 months ago
As an american, I support irans right to produce weapons. Though nuclear weapons are deemed useless as it was banned from use after WW2 (if used, you can expect the free world armies to run you up the ass). Its basically a step to independence for Iran. On that note I say I also support israels right to independence from the ongoing forceful pressure from iran and other neighboring islamic states. Well know in the end I guess, but the war as it is is pointless on all fronts. This is its product.
Snapshot290 2 months ago
@Snapshot290 Lol, Israel is far ahead of independence, they are controlling your country and your resources and financial system via the loby. Also they did JFK and 9,11.
PERSIAisHISTORY 2 months ago
@Awesomeman161
Ohhhh. Name calling. That is classy stuff right there!
Javjean 2 months ago
everybody checkout my 12/21/12 videos
TheTrieye 2 months ago
Even with nuclear arms, Iran can never be a threat to the nation security of America. Maybe a possible threat to Israel, and that's what they should address, not some bullshit about threat to America.
jahan442 2 months ago
Iran Missiles are crap, there using SCUD Missiles and Iranian Copies of Soviet/Russian Missiles
AccessDenied55 2 months ago
@AccessDenied55 but they are good enough to send your expensive and luxury carriers to bottom of the see.
PERSIAisHISTORY 2 months ago
@PERSIAisHISTORY Lol..Our ships are equiped with top of the line Anti-Missile Defense systems
AccessDenied55 2 months ago
@AccessDenied55 haha it seems you don't know much, Iran has a type of supersonic antivessel missile which still there is no antimissile system able to track it.
PERSIAisHISTORY 2 months ago
@PERSIAisHISTORY Anything that hits the air is traceable. I doubt very much that Iran has stealth technology. They're blowing smoke.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@ErtyOpas lol, yes traceable on radar screen but not by a antimissile missile.
PERSIAisHISTORY 2 months ago
@PERSIAisHISTORY I honestly don't know how countermeasures are arranged. I'm sure that if it was a problem, they would not be sending two carrier groups to the Persian Gulf. Should the Iranian government hold to it's threat, we shall soon see how effective their missiles are. If your'e certain of victory, you should be encouraging action on the part of Iran.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
@PERSIAisHISTORY We can easily attack from outside the range of those missiles. Don't fool yourself in thinking that America isn't prepared for Iranian tactics. We probably know more about Iranian offensive capabilities than do the Iranians.
ErtyOpas 2 months ago
Iran is about 2-3 Years from a nuke, they just dont wanna admit it
AccessDenied55 2 months ago
now that iranian NUCLEAR ROD is GONNA GO up US's @55 xD lmao
shani21shani 2 months ago
I struggle with Iran and nukes. I don't like the idea of them having such a weapon but.... They are vilified for developing a nuke yet it's just fine for the US and others to be sitting on piles of them. Looks like a case of do as I say not as I do. How about some consistency?
in2food 2 months ago
NUKE TEHRAN NOW AS AN EXAMPLE TO OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD THAT WANT TO DEVELOP NUKE WEAPONS!!
XMansv 2 months ago
So Iran got their hands on a few bottle rockets. And refined some rabbit turd pellets. Good job.now what? Do we get a bumper sticker saying proud parent of a Jr. modeler rocketeer? I know Iran wanted to show us it's new toys but daddy is buzy with adult stuff.like helping the world.arms race is over Iran.
GrindInYOURcore 2 months ago
Flex those threats.
guidedbythespirit 2 months ago
I've got a nuclear rod in my pants? any women interested?
203207ab 2 months ago
Hormoz our land we do what we want to do with it ;)
P3R51ANG1RL 2 months ago
I live in America & even I'm afraid of these Santorum-like knuckleheads. Can't imagine being any other people who aspire to high-technologies & having to face the possibility of being vaporized by these Hitler-like Christian nutz from America, who put on $30,000 suits, smile nicely to the camera, push a button that could wipe out whole villages off the map 8K miles from home, and THEN go to Church and sing songs about peace, church, & community ... and how THE WORLD should be more like them...
HenryDavidT 2 months ago 20
@HenryDavidT Christian nuts? As compared to the nuts that claim Allah? You're delusional.
AK8591 2 months ago
@HenryDavidT I know someone who worked for the US Air Force. The US has enough nuclear power to blow up the world. I think Iran should be allowed some nukes as well, bring it Iran! The end is near. Oh it is so exciting!
guidedbythespirit 2 months ago
@HenryDavidT We don't want more nukes in the world. The US is dismantling their nukes. The Ayatollah is a muslim extremists. Iran has said things about wiping out Israel. Even if Iran did not intend to nuke Israel or Irans leaders were not religious extremists we STILL don't want them having nukes because theres no way to be sure their country is stable. They just had civil unrest due to falsified elections recently. Nukes get in hands of terrorists we have big problems.
XMansv 2 months ago
@HenryDavidT They're not Christian. A true Christian remains neutral of ALL political affairs. (John 15:18, 19)
kxmode 2 months ago
SO tired of the MIDDLE EAST. Let them live in the 13th century.
bianconeri36 2 months ago
@bianconeri36 thank you and leave us alone add that on top !!
P3R51ANG1RL 2 months ago 3
Another one who thinks one cant be objective and critical without being accused of being ''anti-;; what ever that is
spiriitualemergency3 2 months ago
Comment removed
spiriitualemergency3 2 months ago
same can be said about the pro-israeli/american posters, if you think that is something exclusive to the "anti"-people you are quite delusional
onebloodfool 2 months ago
I see the usual crowd of anti-American, anti-Israeli trolls are here...you can tell them by the fact that their vocabularies and intellect restrict their ability to comment without the use of vulgarity...or reason for that matter...
TheDayApproaches 2 months ago
@TheDayApproaches Lol, couldn't agree more.
gshooting 2 months ago
Remember what goes around COMES AROUND!
Oceanno69 2 months ago
Is time that the USA show to the world "his new toys". Soon Iran going to forget that nuclear is old stuff.
wilybone1 2 months ago
US will never attack Iran, period
VivaMydick 2 months ago
Rick the dick Santorum! Saying what he thinks we want to here! Don't these people have minds of their own? I'll bet the idiot hasn't even been out of the country! Too scared! He wont go unless he has Air Force 1 and a million body guards! Pussy!
tmouse65 2 months ago
Iran hate our government not it's people! Because we killed their leader, and then put the Shaw in, they hated the Shaw, but were stuck with him!
Kinda like they do to us, we hate Obama, but they put him in, we hated Bush, they put him in, we hated Clinton, they put him in! I think we all know how Iran feels! The only difference is that we can get rid of ours, if people had any balls!
tmouse65 2 months ago
600 Billion dollars? Wtf the goes my taxes! So we have our own oil, why don't we leave everybody else alone! If we would sell ours cheaper then we would still control the market!
After listening to Santorum, I know we don't want him in the White house! What a clueless twit!
tmouse65 2 months ago
we need a good world war to restore our faith in the world economy.
isocrate27 2 months ago
Americans are soooo scared of everyone, you are a bunch of pussies and the whole world knows you are the most dangerous country on earth.
coffeebuzzz 2 months ago
this is the classic anti-obama sentiment at work. If he doesn't impose the sanctions the haters complain that he's being soft on defense, If he does and oil prices go up the haters will complain that he's killing jobs. I'll honestly be the first to say that Obama is lying sack of sh--, and there are things I can legitimately complain about, but wtf? seriously. Obama could get down on his knees and suck Reagan's dead zombie c--k and these idiots would complain that he didn't suck it hard enough.
Unclesamslair 2 months ago
2012 will be a year for war mongering if no the real thing. I think another great war (WW3) is approaching hope to shit I'm wrong. This time it will be all out nuclear. Anyone who keeps abreast of geo politics in todays world are fearful of this.
chakazulu87 2 months ago
Lets give them 5 years of sanctions this time before attacking....lol
knifedrago 2 months ago
@knifedrago
attacking what exactly?
Iran has live reactors and nuclear enrichment facilities. Bombing those would release radiation that would go as far as India. Scientists have estimated that at least 3 million Iranians would lose their lives as a result of the radiation.
The window of opportunity was closed YEARS ago
goooooooooooooz 2 months ago
@goooooooooooooz No credible scientist would give a ludicrous death toll like that. Most of Iran's important installations are underground so radiation exposure will be limited when the facilities are buried.
Rosscifer 2 months ago
@Rosscifer
fuck face, Iranian reactors aren't underground. Is the Bushehr nuclear reactor underground? And did you even google before coming here and throwing up all over the cyber spapce?
go to ucsusa[dot]org and read some of the stuff that they have put up. They haven't even published anything on the Bushehr reactor yet but Kuwaiti scientists regularly put out reports that a strike on Bushehr would literally erase their country.
goooooooooooooz 2 months ago
@goooooooooooooz erase kuwait? hahaha what the fuck are you on about?!!!
ps3rules87 2 months ago
@goooooooooooooz i think those numbers are very misleading and undermines any so called scientist or experts that have said that. the nuclear facilities are buried deep under the ground so radation would be limited. and another thing, irans uranium is very contaminated with fluoroxid (or whatever it was called) and that in itself is not radioactive. so the window off opportunity is still there.
ps3rules87 2 months ago
US war machine using mainstream media to scare the unwitting into support for the slaughter of innocents. I have a feeling if we don't do anything then it'll be much more than 1million+ killed like in Iraq.
delatroy 2 months ago
So what? Let them make one or two small bombs. Maybe it would get the US off it's back.
OurFadedGarden 2 months ago
Banned US to buy oil
bennlonelyboy 2 months ago
they are pushing Iran to close the straight of Hormuz. Using sanctions, to send oil to $300-500 a barrel. That way, the us can use them 2 nice new battleship aircraft carriers its has sitting in the Parisian gulf. To kick start WW3. and distract the masses from the glooming economic pest they call the euro. and the people whom occupy the 1%
melonberryable 2 months ago
Let Iran make Nuclear Rods. I don't fucking care, if the use it make ballistic nuclear warheads. I don't care if Israel wants to arm up too. Heck even the UAE is buying weapons from the US Military. Let all arm up. because we are humans. We crave conflict, we desire war. Because in the history of man, War never changes.
revampted 2 months ago
so what? israel had 'produced' their first nuclear fuel rod in the 60s, AND I DONT SEE ANYBODY COMPLAINING!! O_O
bozzeed 2 months ago 24
@bozzeed Israel isn't threatening to WIPE COUNTRIES OFF THE MAP EITHER! They are committed to peace, can you say the same for Iran? Exactly!
AK8591 2 months ago
@AK8591 Except in Palestine and Syria and anyone who opposes the Colonization of the west bank ... STFU you mongoloid moron
CatorsCinema 2 months ago
@AK8591 actually last time i checked, which was 5 minutes ago, israel IS WIPING OUT the palestinians. can you admit that? exactly.
by the way, the threat in the middle east? is israel not iran.
bozzeed 2 months ago
@bozzeed I can admit that lives are being lost on both sides but I know and YOU know that Israel has done everything POSSIBLE to achieve peace in the region. You can't change the mind of people who's hate all but consumes them. Ancient hatred is the reason for this ongoing conflict
AK8591 2 months ago
@AK8591 yes israel is doing all possible to achieve peace, BY ELIMINATING THE OTHER SIDE, then they will live in peace.
is israel wanted peace, they would at least get rid of their nuclear weapons dont you agree?
bozzeed 2 months ago
@bozzeed No, I do not agree at all.
AK8591 2 months ago
@AK8591 well at leats you have admitted that israel has nuclear weapons. thanks looser.
bozzeed 2 months ago
@bozzeed 5 year olds know that. People only live under rocks in your neighborhood I guess.
AK8591 2 months ago
@AK8591 yes, israeli rockets thanks for reminding me
bozzeed 2 months ago
@bozzeed i heared that j.f.k was opposed to israeli nuclear program,and we all know how he ended.irrael stolen 269 kg of nuclear material fom america and nobody answered for thar.i wonder what would happen if ifan or other country take only 1 kg
astifan1 2 months ago
@astifan1 here is how it happens
watch?v=5BFkSJHkNpw
watch?v=BwohP8_zHd4
watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
watch?v=hKzrjssuGzc
watch?v=DpRvj-JRV00
watch?v=SJvhI7sEjA0
and many many many many more
bozzeed 2 months ago 3
@bozzeed and they are the most agressive country on earth
P3R51ANG1RL 2 months ago
@P3R51ANG1RL That statement is the epitome of ignorance.
gshooting 2 months ago in playlist More videos from AlJazeeraEnglish
@bozzeed Israel don't want to wipe people off the face of the map and cause worldwide chaos
gshooting 2 months ago in playlist More videos from AlJazeeraEnglish
@gshooting im sorry, but israel WANT TO WIPE OUT THE PALESTINIANS, did you see the latest palestine map?
bozzeed 2 months ago
@bozzeed Absolute nonsense. If the Palestinians want a state they should first vote out Hamas who are attacking Israel with rockets.
gshooting 2 months ago
@gshooting or, they should bid for a full membership in the united nations to be a homeland for the palestinians, but united corruption, which created the whole problem from the beginning, did not aprove the bid thanks to opposition from israel and united corruption, and they say they want peace.
bozzeed 2 months ago
@bozzeed How the hell is Israel going to have peace with a people who are partly ruled by a terrorist organisation. That is pure fantasy.
gshooting 2 months ago
@gshooting they are not terrorist and there never was any terrorists until the zionists came to the middle east, israeli organized melitias: Irgun bombing king david hotel, Lehi assassinated United Corruption mediator Folke Bernadotte, haganah the greatests terrorists group that because the terrorists IDF killing all civilians and robbing their lands. this was even before WWII
bozzeed 2 months ago
@gshooting "We must expel arabs and take their place" DB Gurion 1937. "[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs." Menachem Begin. 1982 "(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." Yizhak Shamir 1988 "I would have joined a terrorist organization." Ehud Barak......and these are just the prime ministers!!! now go read a history book YOU FUCKING RETARD.
lumpfish99 2 months ago
@gshooting very valid logical conversation the most agressive country on earth is yisrael i can't belive i used to support israel until few weeks ago ewww im ashamed of myself !!
P3R51ANG1RL 2 months ago
The War is coming and everyone talking about peace!...There will never be peace without the Jewish Messiah, but first he will have to kill all evil sinners..
superlynn27 2 months ago
@superlynn27 Then i guess HE will have to start in America, Work his way West to Europe, where most of the worlds PORN Movies, Alcohol and drugs are made. Specially Amsterdam where women are sold behind glass windows
I guess the war on Terror is nothing more then the war of introducing western lifestyles to people who stay away from immoralities and wickedness
In the Muslim world Alcohol and Porn are illegal. And in the west where its made, they are trying to find new customers. We say Never!
Mudug2006 2 months ago
@superlynn27 you're a wacko
MrWhirt 2 months ago
GO GO GO GO GO GO IRAAANNN !!!! INDONESIAN FULLY SUPPORT YOU !!!! END AMERICAN EVIL EMPIRE !!!!
AsianBrotherhood1781 2 months ago
MSHALLAH!!!!!!!!!!
SmaragdineSage 2 months ago
now the playing field is almost fair, if the United states can have them, why can't other country's.
simy33simy33 2 months ago
& if you believe what THEY say, go back to burying your fucking head in the sand and send YOUR & your SENATORS kids off to fight them! & if you don't believe what THEY say, at least you are AWAKE! WAKE UP your neighbors and join the revolution and fight for YOUR RIGHT to be free! Dump the theiving, lying, backstabbing DemoRepublicrates into the prisons that they built for the people who smoke pot! Hang Bush & Cheney for TREASON! Re-investigate 9-11! Eliminate the Fed! Eat the RICH!
hipnlip 2 months ago
Hey terrorists... if you do attack the United States please do us all a favor and don't kill innocent people... please direct your attacks directly at Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC.... thank you ^^
yoransom 2 months ago
AlJazeera is so obviously a Cia/mossad mouthpiece its laughable....
lumpfish99 2 months ago
@lumpfish99 It's sooo "obvious", only to nuts like you whose tin foil hat antennas give them special access to all the inside info.
tjohn1986 2 months ago
@tjohn1986 lol! if you werent so stupid it would be funny unfortunately there are so many morons like you out there its no wonder the world is the way it is...dont tell me next you be telling me the yeti is real or little green martians in flying ships from the planet vulcan. switch off your tv, eat organic food and for gods sake read a fucking book.
lumpfish99 2 months ago
@lumpfish99 Some retarded drivel. Didn't say anything about yeti or martians or tv. Leave it to a conspiracy nutjob to ramble incoherently about unrelated shit. All I said was read the findings of fact from a legitimate district court. Stay on your meds nutbag!
tjohn1986 2 months ago
@tjohn1986 er yeah ok dude...i think you need to stop watching that alien shit it has seriously affected you.
lumpfish99 2 months ago
@lumpfish99 Something ironic about a conspiracy nut telling me about aliens.
tjohn1986 2 months ago
@tjohn1986 dude you are the one talking about tin hats....either way I wouldnt put my faith in a hat....
lumpfish99 2 months ago
@lumpfish99 then you should watch ABC, CBS, NBC & Fox News for YOUR news! God knows that THEY aren't OWNED! God knows that THEY show you the headlines that THEY are TOLD to! God knows that the sheeple in the world want to keep their heads buried in the sand with their asses in the air so that THEY can continue fucking them in the ass because They know what's good for THEM! You must be one of THEM! Not me! I have a brain & I use it determine the TRUTH & FIGHT to be a free man, not a sheeple!
hipnlip 2 months ago
@lumpfish99 You must listen to ABC, CBS, NBC & Fox for your news! God knows that THEY aren't OWNED! God knows that They only show what news THEY are told to report! God knows that THEY know what is good for the SHEEPLE to keep their heads buried in the sand with their asses in the air so that THEY can continue fucking them out of EVERYTHING! You must be getting sore & tired of buying anal lube! Not me! I have a brain and use it to determine the TRUTH & Overthrow our LYING, Theiving Politicians
hipnlip 2 months ago
If we made a bomb many many decades ago, how could the technology be so difficult for scientists to find in the year 2012?
mouthpiece200 2 months ago
I would sugpport iran as much as I am ok with other country having a nucleur program only if it becomes democratic and respect all their citizen and human rights. otherwise, iran is a threat to the whole world.
ahmedzs1 2 months ago
Lol I hope we bomb them I'd like Iran taken out a little bit
livecave144 2 months ago
@livecave144 Of course, you're American.
QBisbest 2 months ago
@livecave144 A little bit? How many babies is that?
landlogger 2 months ago
stupid war propoganda. May the new era of war begin. as pathetic as it may sound
awesomeman161 2 months ago
@awesomeman161
Go play black ops.
Javjean 2 months ago
@Javjean shutup. im anti war u freaking jingo
awesomeman161 2 months ago