FUCK YOUR MITSU !!!! WHATS AUSTRALIAN ABOUT THAT !!!!! AND GM !!!! AND I DIDNT WANT TO SAY THIS !!! EVEN FORD FINALLY THREW THE TOWEL IN !!!!! SAD SAD SAD !!!! I LOVE THE OLD DAYS WHERE MEN WERE MEN AND GIRLS DROVE JAP CARS !!!!
I have a Lancer Sportback as a company car and it's bigger in every dimension than a 1985 Magna, which at the time was the roomiest car made here which wasn't a Fairlaine, Falcon or Statesman DeVille. Everyone who gets in my Lancer comments on how big it is inside. Even with only 2.0 litres and a CVT tranny, it performs reasonably, unless you're going up hills, in which case, you have to put your foot down. Even if the 380 had been loved, the Lancer would have pushed it out of the market.
NO! now don't you worry sunshine Holdens turn as well as Fords time will come.What holdens are doing is almost a carbon copy of the motions Mitsubishi went through.They are just buying time and it's as simple as that.
holden or ford arent slop buckets, if they were they would not sell vehicles then go out of business simple a shit product wont sell, look they arent the best cars but arent the worst, but my mrs owned a 98 magna 3ltr v6 magna and besides shit fuel consumption/ turn circle and oil filter spot they went pretty fuckin hard even smashed a few commys n other cars n a short sprint, never driven a 380 (might go alright) but they look like shit, love to drive an awd vrx bet theyd hammer
ABC channel has a lot to answer for in this case. For over a decade they were screaming that MMAL are about to shut operation so ppl stayed away. I drove a Magna Sport FWD and it left for dead every V6 ford and holden of the day incl supercharged V6 holdens until 2004. I get paid out all the time for driving a Magna even though its a great car that never failed me. Falcon isn't exported either and it hasn't shut yet. Sorry but this vid hasn't even scratched the surfaced and is rarely accurate.
Anyone can see why they failed. Fact is, you've paid money for a mediocre car that no one really wanted. If you're an executive that drives a 380... hilarious. The only good reason for buying a 380 is because it's cheap. I'd buy one for value. But, it still got worse fuel economy than the competition, made less power, subjectively it was far uglier than the competition, and it was very hard to justify the price increase of any of the upmarket models (Save maybe for your supercharged version).
100% agree the same thing happened to Chrysler Australia not to mention the resale value in the 80s you couldnt give Valiants away they were cheap and the wreakers were full of them now there collectors cars pulling big money at the moment magnas and 380 are considered to modern to be collectors cars but you never know in 30 years time they might just be
Your car was a failure, not because it was a bad car, but because it was a car that had no place in the market, so no one wanted to buy it. Mitsubishi can't make a large car, that's why they make money on Lancers these days.
For your information, I drive a BMW E34 530i these days.
A fact? If you're talking about the recent news that the Falcon doesn't work in the "One Ford" idea, that's more the Falcon becoming global and sharing in Ford's part bin, rather than being a pure Australian-only product.
Holden is not nearly as damaged as the bloated, poorly managed GM, although they have had some loses over the past few years, and they better bloody bet the Commodore has to change if it's going to compete in the modern market.
@Redblower Oh, Mitsubishi is hardly doing great. Their market share in the US is shrinking, they didn't even manage to sell 100,000 in 2009, 5 times less than it used to be a few years ago. The Galant, which is the basis for your beloved 380 is hardly a strong seller.
is that all your worried about is your shares how about the fact that we lost vital employment for the southern suburbs most of the workers didnt want entitlements... they wanted a stable workplace with a regular income
@Redblower it is pretty sad how the aussie rear drive sedan is getting taken over by this front wheel drive crap, ford global should piss off and let ford australia continue to make their super reliable rear drive falcons. i mean you dont make a car for 50 years if it's crap
Mitsubishis biggest mistake was pinning its hopes on one car the 380 it was telling the Australian market what it wanted instead of giving the Australian market what it wanted so what we got was an overweight, underpowered, out classed and still front wheel drive layout, that is proberley what killed it most plus wheres the sports version if you want to know where all the magnas are take a trip down to your local wreakers im not lying they are full of them its a shame that we lost this icon
erm im a mechanic and i drive and work on a variety of vehicles they should of made the 380 rear wheel drive, Mitsubishi like Chrysler before them started off strong but they failed to deliver a car that was accepted by the Australian buying public, if they did they would still be in business and my brother would still be working there
@redblower most larger family cars are rear wheel drive this is what most aussie familys want why argue over it Mitsubishi died just like Chrysler before them they were both stuck with an outclassed and unloved vehicle im a Chrysler/Valiant fan and im not ashamed to say that you never know though Valiants are now collectors items maybe one day the 380 will be too Chrysler Aust 1962-1981 M.M.A.L.1981-2008 R.I.P. the great Aussie car makers
now hang on a minute, ford australia says that the xr6 does 0-100 in 5.1 seconds (probably the manual version). I'm afraid that you have just insulted the vast majority of australia in sayin that falcons and comodores are "slop buckets". if they were such slop buckets then how come it was mitsubishi that went down and not ford of holden?
@Redblower My point was, the sportiest 380 (until the limited edition Supercharged 380) had the exact same power as the base car. The VR-X was actually slower than the base model because of the extra weight it had. You tell me where the clear thinking was there.
Well, Holden still managed to export the Monaro as a Pontiac GTO and the Commodore as the Pontiac G8, so while that might have had something to do with it, I'm not sure it was the complete story.
There was also the export opportunity for exporting it as a Proton in Malaysia, but it didn't come through in the end, which I believe was reported as the final nail in the coffin at the time.
thay made a car to take on ford and holden two aussies 4 door giants what were thay thinking??? as i can see thay dident do to well there research and the compony whent down...
People who buy cardigan cars, Usually buy small cars in down times.
Those that only buy a cardigan car because it was given to them, Or lease etc. Will go back and buy large Aussie cars in down times.
380 was doomed because it was 3 5 years to late. If Mitsubishi had it out around BA -VY time they might have had a big foot in the door. But they didn't.
i don't know if i agree with you on some of the points you made old people wernt the only ones who drove them and like that has anything to do with it. And they did stop making the Monaro what does that tell you. Plus i don't think it was in the same catagory as the magna.
I think its the name of the 380 that killed it 380 is an unlikey number. Cheak out the new airbus a380 for example that nearly sent the company broke.
Its true that a large majority of the Magna buyers were of the older generation but thats because they were the kind of people to appreciate a better built and more refined car. I am 21 and just bought my first car last year, a 1999 TH Sports 3.5 manual and its a beauty to drive. Ive driven the Ford and Holden equivelents and they were rubbish. Went hard, but drank fuel accordingly. Magna goes just as hard (better in some cases) and I average 9-10L/100kms week in, week out. Awesome car :D
I've driven a few Magnas, a TP and a TJ. The TP was pretty dull, the TJ wasn't half bad and had some decent performance. But it was far from inspiring.
What does the Lancer Evo 3 have to do with anything? A Ferrari F40 could go 0-100 3.8 seconds, so what? The Lancer is a road going rally car with a 2.0L Turbo engine and is a small/medium sized car. Comparing apples with oranges...
Exactly. The Magna was a family/passenger car, with an enhanced variant (Sports and VRX). However the Evo is a purpose built performance car- you can't compare the two. In their respective fields, they both did the job well.
The Magna and Verada are very underrated cars mainly for the fact that everyone keeps putting them in a class they don't belong in. Magna was a class of its own, and a damn good one at that.
I must say, that was pretty good. Earlier this year I was one of over 4000 to apply for Top Gear Oz and a large part of my app was written and included a big say about the Oz Auto Industry. You really are quite right with what you say, and I also think the our car industry is too slow and if it doesn't lear to adapt, may die altogether, regardless of our tax dollars going to make-up their mistakes. Thanks for the vid and I hope I see more. Off now to check out PEDS.
The Ralliart was magnas manaro. With 180kw it was only 45kw less then that yellow manaro and beening a V6 was light and cheap on fuel? and the Manaro has 225kw@ The motor not the wheel's...Also the manaro 0-100 is 6.7seconds, other then that it was a good report.. And yes i am a magna drive and i wouldn't trade it for the world
So, Loud1feared1, you wouldn't trade yer Fagna 4 the world? Fairy-nuff. I'm sure a lot of oldies like their 'just to get me from A to B' cars. Also, it doesn't matter how much grunt a car's got, if it can't put power to ground, it's no good. It'll sit and spin at intersections unable to move quickly and safely on a wet day and put everyone's life at risk on every corner because wet Weeties packets handle better then a standard Magna. Only the AWD Magna was any good, just too rough for our roads.
spot on verry good job anyways i thgink ford will go the same way they didnt make a left hand drive falcon and they dont upgrade the styling as much as they should
Hey I have a 1990 TP Magna Grand tourer Limited Edition I'm 21 and I have been Driving Magna's Since I got My L's when I was 16 My 1st magna was a 1990 TP magna Elite (blew the motor at 583,932km Genuine on the First Motor I bet your rust bucket Bluebird cant get to that many KM without a reco motor being Dropped (my Mum bought the Elite New in 1990 when she was 24 so much for your crappy theory of Only Old Peolpe Driving all Magna's) YEAH My Magna does 0-100 in 9.2 seconds
I've driven a TP Magna - They're boats. There's nothing amazing about 600,000km on one engine. Heaps of cars can do that. If you'd noticed, I praised the first (TP) Magna for being well packaged and a smart car to buy compared to it's rivals at the time. But they ruined that
If you paid attention, because the Bluebird was rubbish, Nissan went down the drain. It's called a parallel. Mitsubishi made cars that no one really wanted, so they folded. That has got nothing to do with reliability.
have you driven a third generation magna mate? Im guessing you havent because they handle much better than the equivilent holdens and fords. They are also lighter and more economical, the ralliart magna even beat the XR6 turbo and Commodore SS in a wheels magazine test in 02. The only thing these rear wheel drive cars were better for were burnouts. Also you can hardly come to the conclusion that magnas are driven by old people. The Aussie magna club is made up mostly of people 30 and under.
And the Nissan Bluebird club I'm part of is made up of people mostly 30 and under. That's an enthusiast group, it really doesn't represent the majority, does it? That still doesn't change the fact that everyone sees Bluebirds as shitty boring cars for old grandmothers.
The Magnas are pretty competent from what I've heard, but they couldn't get over the image problem. Which is disappointing, because I think the AWD Magnas sound to be pretty good. Like the Lancer Evo's big brother.
Fwd's can do burnouts too; in fact it is easier because you can just pull the handbrake on. The 3rd generation has terrible torque steer like all big fwd cars and understeer when you apply power. If fwd cars were the epitome in handling design then why does every form of elite motorsport prefer rwd?
Maybe the brains over at F1 don't know about the brilliant handling of the 3rd gen Fagna and its fwd incredible concept!
I never said that fwd cars were the epitome of handling. Do you honestly think that anyone would be stupid enough to compare a magna to a F1 car. They are completely different. My point is that the magnas are far more competent that the other 2 australian built cars in the same price range. I have driven all three over time. My last work car was a commodore and hated it. The magna by comparison was a dream. I drive a nissan now anyway and its rwd. I still think the magna was an awesome car.
I'm 16, into cars, and I drive a modified Magna. As much as one like myself would hate to admit it, the points made in this video are absolutely right. The Magna, as good a car as it is, was just aiming for all the wrong targets, something Mitsubishi should have seen in the mid 90's, but failed to do so. Hence, it's come to this.
Video was very well made if I may add, top notch all the way. A sidenote, I was the one who uploaded the Nine News clip as "iMac600", glad to see it going to good use.
oh no it's such a sin to have 147kw running to the front wheels in my 3.5Litre magna rather than the 147kw going to the back wheels of any CRAPPADORE. haha. I get safety and POWER. Make one wrong move in the commodore in the wet and ur literally DEAD hahah
FUCK YOUR MITSU !!!! WHATS AUSTRALIAN ABOUT THAT !!!!! AND GM !!!! AND I DIDNT WANT TO SAY THIS !!! EVEN FORD FINALLY THREW THE TOWEL IN !!!!! SAD SAD SAD !!!! I LOVE THE OLD DAYS WHERE MEN WERE MEN AND GIRLS DROVE JAP CARS !!!!
RedBeretXXX 1 month ago
HAHAHA, BMW E34 530i, Id rather my 2nd generation Magna than that European PoS. You obviously know quality, lol.
Pretzil43 6 months ago
get a hair cut ya fucken yobbo
shamous69 6 months ago
I have a Lancer Sportback as a company car and it's bigger in every dimension than a 1985 Magna, which at the time was the roomiest car made here which wasn't a Fairlaine, Falcon or Statesman DeVille. Everyone who gets in my Lancer comments on how big it is inside. Even with only 2.0 litres and a CVT tranny, it performs reasonably, unless you're going up hills, in which case, you have to put your foot down. Even if the 380 had been loved, the Lancer would have pushed it out of the market.
aussiemick83 9 months ago
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hondafan71 1 year ago
If you own a Magna hold onto it. Mitsubishi is currently designing a new large car. The mitsubishi ZT
Campbellmatt 1 year ago
NO! now don't you worry sunshine Holdens turn as well as Fords time will come.What holdens are doing is almost a carbon copy of the motions Mitsubishi went through.They are just buying time and it's as simple as that.
jetbackpack 1 year ago
holden or ford arent slop buckets, if they were they would not sell vehicles then go out of business simple a shit product wont sell, look they arent the best cars but arent the worst, but my mrs owned a 98 magna 3ltr v6 magna and besides shit fuel consumption/ turn circle and oil filter spot they went pretty fuckin hard even smashed a few commys n other cars n a short sprint, never driven a 380 (might go alright) but they look like shit, love to drive an awd vrx bet theyd hammer
frombris 2 years ago
ABC channel has a lot to answer for in this case. For over a decade they were screaming that MMAL are about to shut operation so ppl stayed away. I drove a Magna Sport FWD and it left for dead every V6 ford and holden of the day incl supercharged V6 holdens until 2004. I get paid out all the time for driving a Magna even though its a great car that never failed me. Falcon isn't exported either and it hasn't shut yet. Sorry but this vid hasn't even scratched the surfaced and is rarely accurate.
Spetsnazovets 2 years ago
Every time i come back here i laugh at this clown who drives a 1986 Bluebird and professes an indepth analysis on why mitsubishi failed.
Wow...who should i listen to an executive or a long haired kid who reckons that only people on seaview road henly beach buy 380's.
Considering any house in that street is over a million, that simply says 380 buyers are rich.
Redblower 2 years ago
Anyone can see why they failed. Fact is, you've paid money for a mediocre car that no one really wanted. If you're an executive that drives a 380... hilarious. The only good reason for buying a 380 is because it's cheap. I'd buy one for value. But, it still got worse fuel economy than the competition, made less power, subjectively it was far uglier than the competition, and it was very hard to justify the price increase of any of the upmarket models (Save maybe for your supercharged version).
jamesdisnow 2 years ago
100% agree the same thing happened to Chrysler Australia not to mention the resale value in the 80s you couldnt give Valiants away they were cheap and the wreakers were full of them now there collectors cars pulling big money at the moment magnas and 380 are considered to modern to be collectors cars but you never know in 30 years time they might just be
regal340 2 years ago
Your car was a failure, not because it was a bad car, but because it was a car that had no place in the market, so no one wanted to buy it. Mitsubishi can't make a large car, that's why they make money on Lancers these days.
For your information, I drive a BMW E34 530i these days.
jamesdisnow 2 years ago
In 5 years you will all be driving front wheel drive Fords.
That is a fact.
And general Motors is so successful worldwide that they have had to have handouts in the US...
This video is doen by a $13 an hour pizza delivery driver or Bottle shop attendant.
Redblower 2 years ago 2
A fact? If you're talking about the recent news that the Falcon doesn't work in the "One Ford" idea, that's more the Falcon becoming global and sharing in Ford's part bin, rather than being a pure Australian-only product.
Holden is not nearly as damaged as the bloated, poorly managed GM, although they have had some loses over the past few years, and they better bloody bet the Commodore has to change if it's going to compete in the modern market.
jamesdisnow 2 years ago
@Redblower Oh, Mitsubishi is hardly doing great. Their market share in the US is shrinking, they didn't even manage to sell 100,000 in 2009, 5 times less than it used to be a few years ago. The Galant, which is the basis for your beloved 380 is hardly a strong seller.
jamesdisnow 2 years ago
Mitsubishi Australia did the smart thing, they wound up manufacturing in an overpriced labour market.
They paid all workers entitlements and got a great price for plant and equipment.
Good for shareholders like me.
Redblower 2 years ago
is that all your worried about is your shares how about the fact that we lost vital employment for the southern suburbs most of the workers didnt want entitlements... they wanted a stable workplace with a regular income
regal340 2 years ago
stop bagging this bloke about his wealth and his possessions that you don't even know a thing about
James3076081 2 years ago
@Redblower it is pretty sad how the aussie rear drive sedan is getting taken over by this front wheel drive crap, ford global should piss off and let ford australia continue to make their super reliable rear drive falcons. i mean you dont make a car for 50 years if it's crap
idioty33 4 months ago
Mitsubishis biggest mistake was pinning its hopes on one car the 380 it was telling the Australian market what it wanted instead of giving the Australian market what it wanted so what we got was an overweight, underpowered, out classed and still front wheel drive layout, that is proberley what killed it most plus wheres the sports version if you want to know where all the magnas are take a trip down to your local wreakers im not lying they are full of them its a shame that we lost this icon
regal340 2 years ago
regal340.
You make out that car makers give us what they want instead of what we want?
Your have never driven a 380.
Redblower 2 years ago
erm im a mechanic and i drive and work on a variety of vehicles they should of made the 380 rear wheel drive, Mitsubishi like Chrysler before them started off strong but they failed to deliver a car that was accepted by the Australian buying public, if they did they would still be in business and my brother would still be working there
regal340 2 years ago
@regal340- You have lost all credibility when you say that the FWD platform was the cause of Mitsubishi windup.
The exchange rate went from 48 cents to 100 cents...we couldnt export diamantes anymore.
We were the cheap 3rd world labour the americans and japs wanted.
Your theory about FWD is all wrong.
Redblower 2 years ago
@redblower most larger family cars are rear wheel drive this is what most aussie familys want why argue over it Mitsubishi died just like Chrysler before them they were both stuck with an outclassed and unloved vehicle im a Chrysler/Valiant fan and im not ashamed to say that you never know though Valiants are now collectors items maybe one day the 380 will be too Chrysler Aust 1962-1981 M.M.A.L.1981-2008 R.I.P. the great Aussie car makers
regal340 2 years ago
pretty well done doc. Hey,how many Australian cars are out there in the market now? I dont see any in Malaysia tho.
TrowaBarton89 2 years ago
Also...don't know where you get the idea that a V8 Monaro is faster than a 380.
I haven't met a Monaro that can keep up with mine.
Redblower 2 years ago
Either you have the Supercharged 380 or you've met some slow Monaro drivers! :P
Mitsubishi 380 SX 0-100km/h: Approx 7.5 sec
Holden Monaro CV8 Series 1 0-100km/h: Approx 6 sec
jamesdisnow 2 years ago
@jamesdisnow in the states the monaro is call the GTO. With an automatic it hits100km/h in 5 secs and the manual does it in around 4.5 secs at best.
buickman85 2 years ago
even better- the xr6 turbo, which is a more afordable option than the monaro will do 0-100 in 5.1 seconds.
And might i ad, the monaro was lighter and had an extra 50kw on the 380 so i don't see how the 380 could possibly be faster
James3076081 2 years ago
Sorry, James, the XR6T stock does it in 5.6 not 5.1
My TMR380 does it in 5.7 with no wheel spin and handling that makes a Commodore or Falcon look like slop buckets around corners.
yes, its front wheel drive and up to the speed limit is damned quick.
Not all 380's are what you claim.
Best to get your facts right before posting outlandish claims.
Redblower 2 years ago
now hang on a minute, ford australia says that the xr6 does 0-100 in 5.1 seconds (probably the manual version). I'm afraid that you have just insulted the vast majority of australia in sayin that falcons and comodores are "slop buckets". if they were such slop buckets then how come it was mitsubishi that went down and not ford of holden?
James3076081 2 years ago
@Jamesdisnow- Yes i have the supercharged one.
I think you are challenged at clear thinking if you seek to compare a V8 Monaro with a V6 Mitsubishi.
So why not compare my supercharged V6 to a V8? Seems fair enough to me.
Redblower 2 years ago
@Redblower My point was, the sportiest 380 (until the limited edition Supercharged 380) had the exact same power as the base car. The VR-X was actually slower than the base model because of the extra weight it had. You tell me where the clear thinking was there.
jamesdisnow 2 years ago
@James-No.The Vrx is NOT slower,
I can prove it, I have five 380's.
My brother was an engineer at the factory.
As I said, whatever facts you want toa dd to my comment, Ford Australia will indeed be conforming to the FWD global strategy.
GMH are still pushing pushrod V8's as relevant auto technology.
Their recent claim to fame is a Melb to Sydney run on one tank.
They conveniently forget to mention that a midget was at the wheel and that...oh yeah, it had an 86 litre tank.
Redblower 2 years ago
yeah but its not the person at the wheel who counts its how they drive it
James3076081 2 years ago
the monaro was lighter and had 50kw more than the 380. its easy to see the winner here
James3076081 2 years ago
You need to be challenged on some of the statements you made here.
The 380 was always intended as an export earner the same as the magna/diamante was.
However as you correctly pointed out in 2003 the export market vanished.
It didn't vanish because the cars were no good...it vanished because our currency rose from 48 cents in 2001 to nearly 1.00 in 2007.
Redblower 2 years ago
Well, Holden still managed to export the Monaro as a Pontiac GTO and the Commodore as the Pontiac G8, so while that might have had something to do with it, I'm not sure it was the complete story.
There was also the export opportunity for exporting it as a Proton in Malaysia, but it didn't come through in the end, which I believe was reported as the final nail in the coffin at the time.
jamesdisnow 2 years ago
My 3.5L TJ Sports Left A Tweaked VL Turbo For Dead. I Shit Over Most V6 Commies.
IOwnAHolden202Black 2 years ago
I'll always love Mitsubishi though.
PULSE88 2 years ago 4
thay made a car to take on ford and holden two aussies 4 door giants what were thay thinking??? as i can see thay dident do to well there research and the compony whent down...
superbro1991 2 years ago
People who buy cardigan cars, Usually buy small cars in down times.
Those that only buy a cardigan car because it was given to them, Or lease etc. Will go back and buy large Aussie cars in down times.
380 was doomed because it was 3 5 years to late. If Mitsubishi had it out around BA -VY time they might have had a big foot in the door. But they didn't.
Ford.
fordweputthefinit 2 years ago
i don't know if i agree with you on some of the points you made old people wernt the only ones who drove them and like that has anything to do with it. And they did stop making the Monaro what does that tell you. Plus i don't think it was in the same catagory as the magna.
I think its the name of the 380 that killed it 380 is an unlikey number. Cheak out the new airbus a380 for example that nearly sent the company broke.
Thanks for making this it was interesting
redblur12 3 years ago
Are you saying they did not sell because they are boring? WRONG!!!!
Look at the leader in the Australian market Toyota and all there cars are boring BUT there refined, usable, reliable and cheap.
Miggy2JZ 3 years ago
Its true that a large majority of the Magna buyers were of the older generation but thats because they were the kind of people to appreciate a better built and more refined car. I am 21 and just bought my first car last year, a 1999 TH Sports 3.5 manual and its a beauty to drive. Ive driven the Ford and Holden equivelents and they were rubbish. Went hard, but drank fuel accordingly. Magna goes just as hard (better in some cases) and I average 9-10L/100kms week in, week out. Awesome car :D
aytchohpeepeewhy 3 years ago
The same sort of person that would buy a Magna/380 buys a Camry/Arion.
Cardigan Power!
JohnnyTheBoy1 3 years ago
have you ever driven a 380 or magna?, 6 sec 0-100 is still slow mits evo 3 did 0-100 in 4.8 back in 1995 not 2005
gsrking 3 years ago
I've driven a few Magnas, a TP and a TJ. The TP was pretty dull, the TJ wasn't half bad and had some decent performance. But it was far from inspiring.
What does the Lancer Evo 3 have to do with anything? A Ferrari F40 could go 0-100 3.8 seconds, so what? The Lancer is a road going rally car with a 2.0L Turbo engine and is a small/medium sized car. Comparing apples with oranges...
jamesdisnow 3 years ago
Exactly. The Magna was a family/passenger car, with an enhanced variant (Sports and VRX). However the Evo is a purpose built performance car- you can't compare the two. In their respective fields, they both did the job well.
The Magna and Verada are very underrated cars mainly for the fact that everyone keeps putting them in a class they don't belong in. Magna was a class of its own, and a damn good one at that.
CruisinTR 3 years ago
I must say, that was pretty good. Earlier this year I was one of over 4000 to apply for Top Gear Oz and a large part of my app was written and included a big say about the Oz Auto Industry. You really are quite right with what you say, and I also think the our car industry is too slow and if it doesn't lear to adapt, may die altogether, regardless of our tax dollars going to make-up their mistakes. Thanks for the vid and I hope I see more. Off now to check out PEDS.
fulbore 3 years ago
Your hair is killing the Australian car industry
BrentWilliamson 3 years ago 10
lmao
96fordfalcon 3 years ago
The Ralliart was magnas manaro. With 180kw it was only 45kw less then that yellow manaro and beening a V6 was light and cheap on fuel? and the Manaro has 225kw@ The motor not the wheel's...Also the manaro 0-100 is 6.7seconds, other then that it was a good report.. And yes i am a magna drive and i wouldn't trade it for the world
LOUD1FEARED1 3 years ago
So, Loud1feared1, you wouldn't trade yer Fagna 4 the world? Fairy-nuff. I'm sure a lot of oldies like their 'just to get me from A to B' cars. Also, it doesn't matter how much grunt a car's got, if it can't put power to ground, it's no good. It'll sit and spin at intersections unable to move quickly and safely on a wet day and put everyone's life at risk on every corner because wet Weeties packets handle better then a standard Magna. Only the AWD Magna was any good, just too rough for our roads.
fulbore 3 years ago
so true
James3076081 2 years ago
spot on verry good job anyways i thgink ford will go the same way they didnt make a left hand drive falcon and they dont upgrade the styling as much as they should
RAFFIZUMZ 3 years ago
that was great and spot on!
laurence265 3 years ago
Hey I have a 1990 TP Magna Grand tourer Limited Edition I'm 21 and I have been Driving Magna's Since I got My L's when I was 16 My 1st magna was a 1990 TP magna Elite (blew the motor at 583,932km Genuine on the First Motor I bet your rust bucket Bluebird cant get to that many KM without a reco motor being Dropped (my Mum bought the Elite New in 1990 when she was 24 so much for your crappy theory of Only Old Peolpe Driving all Magna's) YEAH My Magna does 0-100 in 9.2 seconds
my90tp 3 years ago
I've driven a TP Magna - They're boats. There's nothing amazing about 600,000km on one engine. Heaps of cars can do that. If you'd noticed, I praised the first (TP) Magna for being well packaged and a smart car to buy compared to it's rivals at the time. But they ruined that
If you paid attention, because the Bluebird was rubbish, Nissan went down the drain. It's called a parallel. Mitsubishi made cars that no one really wanted, so they folded. That has got nothing to do with reliability.
jamesdisnow 3 years ago
have you driven a third generation magna mate? Im guessing you havent because they handle much better than the equivilent holdens and fords. They are also lighter and more economical, the ralliart magna even beat the XR6 turbo and Commodore SS in a wheels magazine test in 02. The only thing these rear wheel drive cars were better for were burnouts. Also you can hardly come to the conclusion that magnas are driven by old people. The Aussie magna club is made up mostly of people 30 and under.
maxwelledm 3 years ago
And the Nissan Bluebird club I'm part of is made up of people mostly 30 and under. That's an enthusiast group, it really doesn't represent the majority, does it? That still doesn't change the fact that everyone sees Bluebirds as shitty boring cars for old grandmothers.
The Magnas are pretty competent from what I've heard, but they couldn't get over the image problem. Which is disappointing, because I think the AWD Magnas sound to be pretty good. Like the Lancer Evo's big brother.
jamesdisnow 3 years ago
Fwd's can do burnouts too; in fact it is easier because you can just pull the handbrake on. The 3rd generation has terrible torque steer like all big fwd cars and understeer when you apply power. If fwd cars were the epitome in handling design then why does every form of elite motorsport prefer rwd?
Maybe the brains over at F1 don't know about the brilliant handling of the 3rd gen Fagna and its fwd incredible concept!
Quick, you better let them know
Your arguments = FAIL!
slicktrx 3 years ago
I never said that fwd cars were the epitome of handling. Do you honestly think that anyone would be stupid enough to compare a magna to a F1 car. They are completely different. My point is that the magnas are far more competent that the other 2 australian built cars in the same price range. I have driven all three over time. My last work car was a commodore and hated it. The magna by comparison was a dream. I drive a nissan now anyway and its rwd. I still think the magna was an awesome car.
maxwelledm 3 years ago
good doco...
but dude...cut your hair man. i think it was your hair that is killing the aussie car market.
SLYTS6 3 years ago
Good Video James, shame about the 380, I just got one of the last and it's a great car.
tokenpole 3 years ago
Cool video =)
Wh1plesh 3 years ago
I'm 16, into cars, and I drive a modified Magna. As much as one like myself would hate to admit it, the points made in this video are absolutely right. The Magna, as good a car as it is, was just aiming for all the wrong targets, something Mitsubishi should have seen in the mid 90's, but failed to do so. Hence, it's come to this.
Video was very well made if I may add, top notch all the way. A sidenote, I was the one who uploaded the Nine News clip as "iMac600", glad to see it going to good use.
CruisinTR 3 years ago
Thanks man! Nice to see someone on that side of the spectrum comment in this way.
Thanks also for uploading that Nine News clip.. I was going crazy trying to find it, it was a big help!
jamesdisnow 3 years ago
oh no it's such a sin to have 147kw running to the front wheels in my 3.5Litre magna rather than the 147kw going to the back wheels of any CRAPPADORE. haha. I get safety and POWER. Make one wrong move in the commodore in the wet and ur literally DEAD hahah
jrwright90 3 years ago
P.S. Radiohead are freaking awesome.
You did well, video editing was top notch and your hair was free and easy. You were like a gas guzzling hippy.
I love it.
Nalliac1 3 years ago