People watching from across Brooklyn bridge

[xXxDeejayIonxXx]

the only day new york came together to help the people. this shows you in time of chaos you can count in the world. just let your heart out. even the gangs stood still and watched.

[keeltoll3456]

And all the gangs stood still.

[Karasu113]

this is right by my school

[Jesse9063]

Anybody who believes the government is involved is misguided. It's illogical and impossible for the government to have a role in 9/11. It's almost like saying the government let Pearl Harbor happen. Bush was in office for 8 months. In order for an attack with this gravity happen, it would take years to plan, organize, gather the inside support, and execute.

[asianwannabeamerican]

here's how I see it. the terrorists committed this crime, but Bush let it happen so we could go to war. does that make any of you happier? either way, someone here is gonna be pissed hearing what I have to say.

[legalgirl2003]

OMG!!!! that was the worst day of my life ... omg!! i was in the BRONX.... omg!!!

[asianwannabeamerican]

saying that 9/11 was an inside job makes this tragedy worse for the victims. if you're telling me that our government did this, fine but think of this; saying that it was an inside job doesn't make it less devastating.

[newchicagogirl]

1. I am sure there are a lot of families of the victims who want discussion. Why do you think they were so passionate about an investigation?

2. People who care about their society pursue truth. A society full of people willing to turn away is a society destined to be controlled and abused.

[thetalentedmrman]

wierd. i love the way that guy pulls over on his bike next to the other and raises his head to look up.. this clip looks like something out of a movie !!

[whatsinalife]

9/11 was planned and used by the government, watch Zeitgeist.

[asianwannabeamerican]

Zeitgeist is some conspiracy nut. you seriously think that that is more legitimate info than the info the government and news gives us? you're just switching one source of propaganda for another. 9/11 was NOT an inside job!

[MAC437263]

hey box of rocks see you in 2012 bitch ass

[asianwannabeamerican]

Look man, I'm not saying that I fully trust the government. As someone who believes in less government interference in our lives, I'm definitely not someone who would say "let the government take care of all our needs". The problem is you're skeptical about one side of the story while completely eating up the garbage that someone else is telling you. You need to be skeptical of both pro-government and anti-government rhetoric. The government isn't completely guilty nor is it completely innocent.

[Bestrockslide]

Do you really trust what government and news tell us? Isn't it an inside job ? How do you call two towers falling down in the same day ? The first two towers from 1900....

[asianwannabeamerican]

Technically Bestrockslide, you completely trust the news, but your news is not news in the traditional sense. Does that make any sense? to truly say that you are skeptical of what you are told, you should be skeptical of what the government tells us, along with the conspiracy theories. do you follow me? I can't see Rush Limbaugh's rhetoric as BS but then completely eat up Michael Moore's ideas like sheep right? most of those people that blame 'brainwashing' are just as narrow-minded as all of us

[asianwannabeamerican]

And Bestrockslide, I'm not going to agree with you and I'm not going to disagree with you. everybody is corrupted in some way. to not accept that is narrow thinking. we are all brainwashed. brainwashing isn't only perpetrated by government and pro-conservative media. all ends of the political spectrum say what they can and it turns off a lot of people and it appeals to a lot of people. I think we can all agree on this. I just wanna know where you stand on this. What do YOU personally believe?

[MAC437263]

yes your right watch all 3 of them and you will find the truth

[The111DooD]

Isn't this what your 2nd or 1st amendment is for? Go shoot them.

[rodman332]

9/11 was planned by our own government...watch LOOSE CHANGE

[asianwannabeamerican]

we can all agree that the actual execution of the attack was performed by the Al-Qaeda terrorists. where the disagreement is, is whether the government had anything to do with it. personally, I'd like to think not. but you can never trust anyone these days. Maybe the government planned it, maybe it allowed the terrorists to slip by, or maybe it's a complete outside job. we may never know. what matters most is the victims' families and what we are going to do about this in the future. NEVER AGAIN

[rodman332]

Hmm I cant be sure Al-Qaeda had anything to do. If they did, we trained them and helped let it happen. We also put explosives in the building so they can go down for sure. I think it was an inside job to the fullest extent...Im not ruling out that people dont hate America. I know there are real terrorists out there that will do something like this but not in this case. I mean, look at building 7. seriously?

[organisten]

No, we cannot agree with that at all. There are so many holes in the story that, to quote Charlie Sheen on infowars, you could fly a boeing through one. Where did your Al-Qaeda terrorist get millitary grade nano thermate from to blow up the three world trade centre buildings - for example?

[asianwannabeamerican]

no one is saying that the terrorists got thermate. this whole thing is divided into two camps. those who think the whole thing was done by terrorists, and those that think it was an inside job, either partly or wholly the government's fault and even some that say it was all an illusion. those that say it was done by terrorists don't include thermate in this. thermate is the alleged agent that was used to collapse the building according to those that call this an inside job.

[organisten]

the thermate is no theory, conspiracy or otherwise. It has been proven by independent laboratory examination of the dust.. As for no proof of demolition, there are more and more architects and engineers - people who know a little more than most of us about making these skyskrapers - who disagree. Today there are 832 of them. That increases almost daily. As for your last sentence, my disagreement is with your view in general. Why do you suggest I would want it to happen? Insulting and unworthy!

[Jesse9063]

Wrong. I'm going to assume that you know nothing about "thermate" and what it does. Other than it explodes. If the government planned this to start a war in the middle east, there are much less sloppy ways to do this...besides blowing up new york of course. You aren't looking at the big picture, and looking at details that are false or taken out of context.

[organisten]

We do need to know *anything* about "thermate". Its presence ia independently verified. There is thus a question as to what it was doing there. The only sloppy thing is the official story, which is now being rejected left, right and centre. Incidently, whilst I suspect, I do not say or know "who done it". The point is that there are now such holes in the official story that it no longer holds up - and there must be a new investigation to get to the bottom of this. The WTC did not "collapse".

[asianwannabeamerican]

in response to what people say about the WTC not collapsing- so those guys must have worked real fast to run up all those stairs to set off bombs at the impact site huh? if the govt was gonna demolish the WTC, they would have placed the bombs by the base of the WTC so it would fall vertically right? watch the videos for yourself, it started falling apart from the impact site for obvious reasons. you do know it was attacked in 1993 right? THAT attack involved explosives but it didn't collapse!

[asianwannabeamerican]

sorry, typoed my last response. as I was saying, ALL people know how bin Laden "worked" with the CIA. ALL people know about how the govt does shady things with sketchy people. That's not the problem. the one thing I do agree with your opinion is that there should be a new bullet-proof investigation so people can shut up about this.

[asianwannabeamerican]

the thermate element is part of the conspiracy theory. if you believe this was an OUTside job, then thermate has no place here. the idea that thermate was used only clicks if you believe it's a conspiracy, because as you said, there's many holes in this story. technically there isn't any proof of domolition being used on the buildings besides speculation based on footage of the event. second of all, you said that you disagree with me about the fact that this is a tragedy and should never happen?

[organisten]

Don't be ridiculous. The Al-Quaeda used to be jokingly known as the Al-CIA-da database... perhaps you should research some history! Either way, the Al-Qaeda is only a bogey man, used to justify the completely phoney "War on Terror". Even if you disagree, there are now so many questions relating to 9/11 that there needs to be proper judicial investigation - and one with teeth to get this thing settled once and for all.

[Jesse9063]

Al-Qaida being trained by the CIA is a misconception. CIA trained the already created Mujahadeen groups during the soviet invasion. Bin Ladin left saudi arabia for afghanistan to join the mujahideen, and then created al-qaida. You are misguided. The war on terror is the most real thing in this generation. You underestimate al-qaidas influence and power.

[organisten]

The only thing that is real about the "War on Terror" is the loss of personal liberty. You are right that the "War on Terror" is the most real thing in a generation. It has been declared on every peace loving person in Western civilisation. The only thing we differ on is by whom. As I am sure you already know, I don't buy the cover story.

[Jesse9063]

well then maybe you dont know what really happened because you look to the internet for you information. Everything you read on the internet has the potential to be false, made up, or twisted. especially conspiracy sites, thats just common sense. Bush was in office for 8 months. this kind of attack would take YEARS to plan, organize, gather inside support, and execute. the only place you will find reports of explosives in WTC7 is sites that support the conspiracy theory, not legitimate sources..

[organisten]

Maybe, but then maybe not. I don't think I would classify the ever swelling number of architects and engineers who have come out in support of a new investigation as conspiracy theorists. But I'm afraid your argument is poor since the same applies to the official theory: everything propagated via the media (of which the Internet is just a newer form) has the potential to be false. Unless, of course, you know something personally that the rest of us don't...

[Jesse9063]

I'm an Intelligence Analyst in the US Army. Yes, I know the kind of places where you here about the "growing number of architects calling for an investigation". I could explain to you the science about how possible it was for WTC7 to fall, but I mean its youtube, not enough space and I dont normally participate in comment fights.

[organisten]

My sympathies about the space for replying. My point is the same. WHATEVER you think (even if you think that the allegations out there are hogwash), those allegations have to be shown to be false once and for all? I mean, surely, the answer to the architects and engineers is to give them their day in Court? Put up, or shut up? Let's get this settled once and for all. I mean this isn't doing your country - or your profession - much good now, is it? That is why there should be a new investigation.

[Jesse9063]

Yes, and what happens now if there is a "new investigation". What will it solve when conspiracy theorists are proven wrong? They will simply say that the investigation itself was tampered with, or they over looked this or that, etc. Conspiracy is more of a mindset than a search for the truth. The truth is out, been accepted the by world, but yet here on the internet is the only place you will find talk on conspiracy. People wasting there time. Accept that america has an enemy, al-qaida.

[organisten]

I take that point. However, as asianwannabe has pointed out, we are not all clueless - and that doesn't just apply to what he calls non-conspiracy people. If all the questions that the conspiracy sites are answered in a new investigation - the question of the molten metal, the forensic evidence supposedly found in the dust, and WTC 7 (that you say can be explained), then I think you would pretty much silence the majority of sceptics.

[organisten]

Sorry about the missing word. That's your youtube for you. I meant to say "If all the questions that the conspiracy sites raise are answered in a new investigation - ".. but it gives me the opportunity to repeat that, in my opinion, a new - thorough - investigation would stop the whole truth movement, if most felt that questions that hadn't been addressed finally had been. Then you would be left only with the real conspiracy theorists... and I doubt if I would be among them.

[asianwannabeamerican]

Don't assume we non-conspiracy people are clueless. ALL people know people allied with bin Laden worked with the CIA. ALL people know about how the govt does shady things with sketchy people. That's not the problem. The problem is that we disagree about whether the news or the conspiracies are right or wrong. It's not like I love the system but is it right to always blame the country and pin this whole rap in the govt just because of past associations? is bin Laden still helping us now?