I dont understand why people are saying europe is in a horrible crisis, it still is by far the best place on earth to live, in the USA it's allot more jungle type capitalism, but even that pales in comparison, to let's say China and India, 1/3 of the world population, the places with the highest % of the lowest classes, drunk rich women behind the steering wheel of their huge cars hitting a little buddha statue selling orphans, like they are garbage rolling across the highway.
@Lightf00t1 Survival of the fittest is something for a lawless, jungle society. With 0% empathy, total chaos. And oh : your Ad Hominem comments are really civilized....
Rubbish. We're not talking about killing people, just having the freedom to do what's best for you as an individual without some left-wing tosser telling you what you can and can't do.
@Lightf00t1 Your comments made no sense at all, but this is really amazing. Left and right dont exist boy. They are the illusion of politics. A game to trap sheeple, like yourself. Those who always blame someone else.. are very easy to deceive.
@Lightf00t1 His argument is quite valid, he doesn't buy into the fear mongering. He is one of the smart people, not a sheep. who owns all the canned food? the guns? the Gold? yes indeed, the elite.
Change the record, or get some new information at least, your boring - I can only imagine you are one of the braindead common purpose droids who is happy to be told what to say and when to say it. You clearly have no personality and proberbly care little for cultural ties - quite content at the thought of becoming a comrade of faceless brussels.
@booteu In the end what it matters is that all your self-righteous rhetoric and obscure quoting of journalists saying this and saying that won't matter.
The EU will march on relentlessly towards even more federalization. And you may not realize it now, but on the long term this is Europe's chance to have a voice on the global geopolitical arena. Otherwise we might aswel just become a satellite to the US or China.
Wake up - even Merkel said publically that the referendum in Greece would simply be an "IN OUT" vote on the EU, after all if they turned down the package there was no way they could survive, they would default and leave the euro - and down would come the single monetary union - strangely enough the very thing that is causing all these problems in the first place.
Of course this could never be allowed to happen, the communist EU need to control the money - so NO referendum!!
Leonid Brezhnev and leadership of the Warsaw Pact countries worried that the unfolding liberalizations in Czechoslovakia, at approximately 11 pm on 20 August 1968, Eastern Bloc armies from five Warsaw Pact countries – the Soviet Union, Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, and East Germany – invaded Czechoslovakia.
Brezhnev used tanks and troops against the Czech's, Stalinkozy uses money against the Greek's- deep down they are exactly the same - both want to be leaders of a dictatorship.
it would make me more happy if england would give back what elgin stole(marbles of parthenon),if french would give back the golden coin of alexandros of makedonia&the statue of niki which they have in lubre,and if germany and other retards would stop badmouthing us not realising its their own fault also the economic crisis not ours only.(we r 1,7-1,8 of eurozone and they say we created the crisis.lol XD)that would make me more happy instead of beeing in EU like that
"Greece is in uproar after French President Nicholas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel imposed the date and the referendum question and froze the 6th aid tranche of 8 billion euro until Greeks say YES to referendum"
fuck you europe and the antidemocratic scum in it i look forward to seeing you all on your knees and destroyed by a debt crisis forever along with merkel the cunt and sarkosi the french bastard your all bullys fuck europe and you that are in it i hope your all destroyed
Mr Sarkozy will argue the case for Beijing to supply funds at an eve-of-summit dinner with Chinese president Hu Jintao, the secretary general of the Chinease Communist Party
lol......Nicolas Stalinkozy will try to have his way with both stopping the democratic mandate of the Greek government and hand yet further influence to the CCP.
"I have never understood why public opinion about European ideas should be taken into account."
Raymond Barre, Mayor of Lyons and French Prime Minister 1976 - 1981
Looks like the feeling in the Eurozone is still exactly the same, lets hope Greece do hold the referendum and remind the other leaders of Europe what democracy is actually about. Once the Euro has collapsed lets hope the people of Britain will at last be given the chance to decide by our right to vote about EU membership.
Go see then the swiss federal model,the one that is favored by the european movement,forming a federation,was never a secret,that was the initial goal since 1957.
"The most puzzling development in politics during the last decade is the apparent determination of Western European leaders to re-create the Soviet Union in Western Europe."
Swiss style federalism doesn´t mean the end of national governments,but the reinforcement of the central government,that in turn will become more accountable to the population.
The communist superstate is born. !!!!!!! crisis is JUST BEGGINING.
"Europe's nations should be guided towards the super-state without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation."
Jean Monnet - founder of the european movement 1952
The problem with imigration in europe is that it's accepteble for imigrants to have there culture and not adapt to the culture that already exists. So what is culture? if we dont mention the lame stuff as food or clothes , its the cuture to obey rules, social norms and work. europeans are modern when it comes to that, muslims or africans are not. That's what creates problems. many becomes one and european multiculturism is DEAD!
@imminent46 We don't think we're better than you we just want our country back. We don't want to be ruled by an UNELECTED commission. Who threaten to take the UK to court whenever we don't obey their stupid laws.
@RegioLunar You don't know what you're talking about. We don't elect them. We elect Members of the European parliament. The 27 members of the European commission, which decides on laws, are all UNELECTED. The President of the European Union is UNELECTED. The president of the European Commission is UNELECTED.
@mikesheen741 all legislation must be approved by the elected paliament and the council. i would also like to point out that as british subjects we have little right to critisize other institutions on their democratic processes.
@CommanderMethos They Queen may be unelected but she is a figurehead and has no power. The cabinet ministers were all voted for by voters. NOBODY has ever voted for Catherine Ashton in her entire life.
@mikesheen741 cabinet ministers can be drawn from the house of lords if the prime minister at the time wishes. futhermore the queen has the right to essentially veto any law she wants by refusing to ratify it as well as representing the country abroad on all manor of things.
But you could vote her out. Well maybe not her because se does seem quite reasonable for a monarch but when her son...? I'm curous, can the queen veto laws indefinatelly or what would happen if she would refuse more than once? The president who signs our laws into effect can veto but if the parliament send the bill wiithout changes back to her and she refuses she will lose her job.
@omegavalerius shes not voted into position so she cant be voted out. its hereditary. to get rid of the monarchy would require changes to the constitution. as for the veto as far as i am aware she could do as many times as she wants but so far shes never done it yet.
Germans rate their lives worse on average than do adults living in the U.K. and the U.S., according to the inaugural findings from the Germany Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index. Less than half, 41.1%, of Germans rate their current lives and expectations for their lives in five years high enough to be classified as "thriving," compared with 52% of Britons and 52.9% of Americans who say the same.
@imminent46 So you defend the EU by saying that it has a lot of cash with which to pay its debts, while simultaneously alleging that China, the most cash-rich country in the world, has no strong foundations. This shit is hilarious.
Hate t burst your bubble, but according to a note published by HSBC last Wednesday, net exports made almost zero contribution to China’s 9.6 per cent GDP growth in the first half of 2011, meaning its GDP growth was SOLELY due to domestic demand.
@imminent46 Do you actually expect me to believe this bullshit? I know about counties from Spain to Belarus negotiating deals to receive loans from China. Belarus just received a $1 billion loan two weeks ago, and Spain has been courting China, along with its Confucius Institutes, like crazy. Even Germany has jumped on the learn-Chinese bandwagon, with there being a 45% increase in the number of German schools teaching Chinese over four years ago.
@imminent46 It would be good for most of the world because all the large British corporations would move to China or America so British tax revenue would decrease. So it would destroy the British economy. You also seem a bit thick if you think the riots were caused by bankers. and what is a "nabshit"?
@imminent46 so the american goverenment system then. where the centeral goverenment sets foreign and home security policy and the day to day running of the states is left to the local state level government.
@imminent46 In America we had a war, the civil war, after the war was over all 50 states lost their independence to the federal government. When you give power to a central force you lose your independence.
Retard Im not a muslim,and the days US strength are over,is just the muzzies decide to burn their oil fields and the US economy is literally history,BTW decide to invade the middle east with Israel,Russia,China.the EU would step in and fuck your country all across the world.
So you all fight to the death to stop Hitler from forming a unified identical European world.... Then 50 years later you openly want it? LOL. You idiots.
@Jononutoob partly because the ideal of a federated europ and what hitler tried to achieve are completly diffrent. and partly because that was 50 years ago when the individual european countrys still had barganing power on there own.
If you're such an European patriot you should support Israel because it is the only state that shows us how to eliminate violent Muslim immigration which wants to destroy our great continent of Europe with its noble culture of development.
I am not a philo-semite but I know who's on the same side of the barricade.
@imminent46 switzerlands been able to maintain its neutrality because of the mnumbers. switzerland doesnt get invaded for three reasons. the banks. the geography. the fact everyone over 21 knows how to use a gun and legally owns enogth firepower to equip a small army.
@imminent46 in polotics no one is to be trusted. and switzerland being switzerland wont accept american support. escpecially when the american government is trying to get the swiss government to release the numbers
Europeans.... they think there real smart.. especially "smarter" than "Americans"... Europe is a HUGE step further into One World Government... All Of Europe is already owned by banks at 100 percent and established.. We Americans, Mexicans and Canadians still have a chance.. So Shut The Fuck Up :)
@imminent46 considering that world has changed alot since ww2 that could be interesting. however as far as i can see its going to come down to pure numbers in such a contest.
In view that only "now"! in the 20th century, no one even could not imagine that China will be one of the most developed nations on the planet! and now China is developing very fast! if the growth of such countries as the United States and Russia have the years that China, with its growth rate should be months! must look the truth my eyes!
Our former European glory goes out as the Egyptian civilization!You want to live yesterday or today? your children want to live in tomorrow. I think I made it clear what will happen to Europe in the near future! You choose your future!
For the euro skeptics can only say one thing, you see how China's economy develops with a billion people? you see how economy develops India with a billion people? China the second economy in the world! India in fourth place but with the growth in India will become the third place! and now someone Europe who one by one?? Germany, France and Britain? I am sorry to say but they will not dominate the world! European countries in the future will not be left in place in the ranking of the economy!
EUROPEAN UNION IS DEAD - WE DON'T NEED EU IN POLAND AND EURO. POLAND WILL LEAVE EU BEFORE 2015 AND STARTS ITS OWN UNION - EASTERN UNION OPEN FOR EVERY MARKET IN THE WORLD WITHOUT STUPID EU REGULATIONS. POLAND WAS FREE, IS FREE AND WILL BE - NO FOR NEW SOVIET EUROPEAN UNION
Well, EU is heading to become a United States of Europe Which nobody wants, except for some multikulti liberal israel-adoring assholes. Europe should be going back to be a Europe of Nations
@HUNdAntae i dont actually see what the problem with islam is. its a religous lifestyle and if you really are that worried about it go support secularism.
@CommanderMethos actually there is no problem with islam. the problem is that there are people who refuseto follow the general regulations, refuse to blend in even in the most minimal way, into the 1000 year-old european 'lifestyle' as you say. and covering themselves with religion, and continously asking for support. But basicly islam is the problem of the west.
btw i do support secularism, as well as protectionism
@08daviee Bollocks... you brits actually fantasize about fulfilling an old wet dream of yours, of having another Empire under the Sun. It's got you scared that you can't, and the only way for any of us Euros to prosper and ultimately survive in this globalized world is through unity. You're too caught up in your past (like most of Westerners) to realize that your pride has no basis in today's reality and this is the shortest path to eating RUS', CHIN', IND' and US's dirt in the decades to come.
@08daviee We weren't but Blair was. Ultimately if we MUST form a single nation of some sort if we want to remain relevant in the world that is increasingly influenced by the US, China, and (if they sort themselves out) India.
There are too many nations in Europe, it makes large projects very difficult, it weakens our global influence and reduces intermingling of people and ideas. A gradual and voluntary union would be great.
And I'm not saying this lightly, I also have concerns it.
another victim of evil europe in the form of greece i hope that the pig nations default and destroy your europe forever and consine it to the dustbin of political history where it belongs evil evil antidemocratic people rot in hell all of you
@graham640 Sucks to be you! When colonial styled welfare doesn't work, you shouldn't try to grow it by takeing more loan to replace the missing money like Greece. Drink more you drunk, hopefully unemployed dick who blames others on his problems. I hope you live long life.
IM JUST AFTER LISTENING TO A VERY INFORMATIVE INTERVIEW ON BBC RADIO 4 THAT HAS CONCLUDED THAT EUROPE UNION AND THE ECB FORCED THE IRISH GOVERNMENT TO ACCEPT THEIR RIP OFF BAIL OUT BECAUSE YOU EUROPEANS WERE TO WORRIED ABOUT YOU R SO CALLED EUROPE AND YOU GOOD FOR NOTHING EURO CURRENCY AS FOR GERMANY AND FRANCE THEY WERE SO PISSED OFF AT IRELAND THEY WERE THE BIGGEST BULLIES OF ALL SO I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG ALL YOU EUROPEAN ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING OUT FOR YOUR OWN INTERESTS
@ScotsIrishReb And it should be noted that if that was even remotely true, that would make your Italian peepz LESS European and Egypto-Syrio-Palestinian-Anatolian-Jewish-Moors instead.
If Europe become one, we will be the strongest ! we will be 1st economic power, and in ten years, we can become the first military power ! Next, we will be able to be respected, unlike now ( do you remember when US fuck the french veto right in 2006 about the war in Irak... It won't arrive anymore!)
@graham640 theres a reason the third world countrys are developing country. 1 because unlike us they dont have to develop new technology to expand. 2 they recive development aid from countrys such as europe and america.
ive got news for all of you european fools i just been looking at a video of the brics nations these are brazil india china and souh africa they are booming and progressing a lot better than any of us in europe and america isint mutch better theBRICS WILL SOON BE THE NEW ECONOMIC SUPERPOWER i hope they destroy europe each and everyone and our so called bailouts wont be mutch good to us then nor will your poxy euro
@graham640 Haha, tuhduhduhduh, can't touch this ^^ Tuhduhduhduh, can't touch this ^_^.. Like the song says dude, we will never fade away.. See the world out there? Look out the window, put on your radio, go on the internet and open your eyes, it already is our world :D Gay rights in Marokko? Europe! Democracy? Europe! Capitalism? Europe! The new world? Europe! The list is endless and we haven't nearly yet begun! But don't worry, we are peaceful this time, if the world allows us to be!
@graham640 keep that attitude and soon the whole europe will be mad at u...and trust me....if u make europe mad then ur ass will be totaly kicked(and i dont like EU but i had to be honest about that.u just cant mess with eu)
@graham640 what?! how can you say that we d everything like we agreed in all laws and rights repsect every right some poleticians are idiots but you have that every where we only try to help the world since were already first world countries we try to build up africa and help them to be able to keep all rights posible like the human rights we only do good sure we have some miner min points like every country but if you see how many good we do how we keep our selfs together while being treathWTF
We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not combined. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And Should European statesman address us in the words which were used of old Shall I speak for thee to the King or the Lord of the Host? we should reply with the words of the Shunamite woman: Nay sir, for we dwell among our own people.
@EnglandPerson yeah he was for a united states of europe but did not want to be a part of it only because he was still in love with the british empire. Then it dissolved.
European Parliament passed the bill regarding the creation of
SAFE - Synchronized Armed Forces Europe. Also, other governmental and defensive institutions like SAFE are being summoned throughout Europe. My personal opinion is, that this recession WAS A BLESSING! Because now Europe must unify to survive!
Mark my words, my European brothers, our day will come soon...
Furder more, What is that song called? I want to add it to my Ipod. 1 Europe, wish for hope, peace and prosperity. unfortunatly, the Europeans still have tons of problems to solve before the final stage.
For Europe I stand, Dispite our history of civil wars I say that we should have a European election for an actual European President. I say that the EU is just the basis for an even greater Europen plan to Unify under one common Superpower. :)
Yeah nationalism is the problem ,not the fact that europeans slowy are beeing exchange by third world immigrants and islam. Something the EU is encourages. EU does not represent the true soul of Europa, it a supernational orgnization of merchants that dont care about our culture, and have no real european pride. Liberalism is EU culture. To support EU today is to wish for demise of the european people and its culture. Dont fool yourself brothers and sisters. Ave Europa
@MalteserGezar I'm British and I completely agree. I think our problem is the older generation still pine for the glory days of the Empire when Britain was a bully and didn't even consider compromising with Johnny foreigner. Fuck the empire, fuck the old cunts, fuck being derided as the "poodle of America" and Viva Europe.
@Flipmole123 You are right on the money flip but it's not just Britain a lot of the european countries think the same thing. They remember what it used to be like to have an empire and to once be great, but if two world wars have taught us anything it's that europe divided is a bad thing. Besides we all share the same common ancestory so we should be united. Viva Europe!!! It is our future.
@MalteserGezar It's more than that. It's our divine destiny. Only there are some stubborn people not willing to see what amazing future shall be upon us.
@MalteserGezar My thoughts exactly. EU is already stronger than it's member states, because of the fact that if an member state constitution interferes with a EU law, it is the member state constitution that is changed, not that of EU. It's really like federation already, why don't those ball-less people make it public already!! :D
@OnlyLifeMatters That's true indeed, there was a referendum in Romania in 2009 to reduce the number of parliament members and to have only one parliament chamber. Apparently, this won't happen because the European constitution requires member states to have two chambers...
@OnlyLifeMatters Because they are politcians and not idealist like us, they are constantly kept back by there own bureaucracy. They do not see clearly because their vision is blured by it, we on the other hand see with absolute clarity for we look to the future and what is best in the long run for all our nations. We need each more than ever if we are to contend with Russia, America and china.
@MalteserGezar You've got a fine point there. Russia is beatable with even the current Union, but China and USA will still outmatch us in efficiency and military power. Happy news is, that EU is the largest export entity in the world AND the largest economy in the world. Besides this pro-memberstate crap is just shit. What use it is to be separated and weak? It just makes the once proud european continent miserable and ashamed. Together we could restore the power of Europe, it's needed.
@OnlyLifeMatters You couldn't be more right my friend. Bottom line Europe is number one for many things in the world. To restore European hope, pride and honour we need to be united it will also enamble us to survive this new age of the superstate probably as the leading power as well.
@MalteserGezar Also, to ensure the stability in the world, EU should team up with China. They already are each others' biggest trading partners. It doesn't ask for great intelligence to realize that EU and China are trying to freeze out the USA by teaming up, and that's of course something that I have nothing against. USA has been the leading power for too long and for wrong reasons. They don't deserve that position.
@OnlyLifeMatters Its more likely that China and Russia would form a union together than with us, but if that happened America would most likely side with us as a trading partner to combat that threat. Either way we'd be on top although we could sustain our selfs quite comfortably without these unions as long as Europe is united and not divided.
@EnglandPerson that is very naive to think so...the obama administration and hilary clinton has said..."if britain doesn't want to be a part of europe, then america doesn't really have much interest in the United Kingdom".
@EnglandPerson what are you talking about...i know Europe and the EU are different, Europe is a continent and the European Union is a political institution.
@EuropeanBrit not just that europe is all differant cultures and idenities and its arrogant to think one system fits all the only way to know for shore is for all member countries to have a fair vote in or out
@EnglandPerson scotland, wales and northern ireland are different countries, with different cultures and yes the United Kingdom is a union of countries.
@EuropeanBrit but in truth its hard to say they have differant cultures when you look at peoples ancestries are from all the differant home nations and britain jointed the eu as a country as well its the same treatment for all weather you like it or not
@EuropeanBrit so devolved or not at the moment the uk is the country at least till one member declares independence completely whitch last time i checked the last scottish vote was in favour of the united kingdom
Europe will never fail!
MrDarknessDoom 6 days ago 7
@Darkness4757 europe is great,E,U IS NOT
eunoway 3 weeks ago
I dont understand why people are saying europe is in a horrible crisis, it still is by far the best place on earth to live, in the USA it's allot more jungle type capitalism, but even that pales in comparison, to let's say China and India, 1/3 of the world population, the places with the highest % of the lowest classes, drunk rich women behind the steering wheel of their huge cars hitting a little buddha statue selling orphans, like they are garbage rolling across the highway.
AmbientRainSounds 1 month ago
@AmbientRainSounds
What's wrong with survival of the fittest? Oh sorry, excuse me, you are unfit. I see.
Lightf00t1 1 month ago
@Lightf00t1 Survival of the fittest is something for a lawless, jungle society. With 0% empathy, total chaos. And oh : your Ad Hominem comments are really civilized....
AmbientRainSounds 1 month ago
@AmbientRainSounds
Rubbish. We're not talking about killing people, just having the freedom to do what's best for you as an individual without some left-wing tosser telling you what you can and can't do.
Empathy = left-wing buzzword of the week.
Lightf00t1 1 month ago
@Lightf00t1 Your comments made no sense at all, but this is really amazing. Left and right dont exist boy. They are the illusion of politics. A game to trap sheeple, like yourself. Those who always blame someone else.. are very easy to deceive.
AmbientRainSounds 1 month ago
@Darkness4757
No coherent argument, like all Europhiles.
Lightf00t1 1 month ago
@Lightf00t1 His argument is quite valid, he doesn't buy into the fear mongering. He is one of the smart people, not a sheep. who owns all the canned food? the guns? the Gold? yes indeed, the elite.
AmbientRainSounds 1 month ago
@Darkness4757
Why can you not grasp that it IS failing asd we speak?
Why is it the best thing evar [sic.]?
Lightf00t1 1 month ago
EU = authoritarian superstate ruled by elitist bureaucrats.
Thank God it is going to fail.
Lightf00t1 1 month ago
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Minorities living in Europe are NOT Europeans, nor should be considered Europeans.
Europeans are white, and white only.
Europe for European sons.
Hail mother Europa!
Reboothis 2 months ago
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Reboothis 2 months ago
@Viriathus
Change the record, or get some new information at least, your boring - I can only imagine you are one of the braindead common purpose droids who is happy to be told what to say and when to say it. You clearly have no personality and proberbly care little for cultural ties - quite content at the thought of becoming a comrade of faceless brussels.
booteu 2 months ago
@booteu In the end what it matters is that all your self-righteous rhetoric and obscure quoting of journalists saying this and saying that won't matter.
The EU will march on relentlessly towards even more federalization. And you may not realize it now, but on the long term this is Europe's chance to have a voice on the global geopolitical arena. Otherwise we might aswel just become a satellite to the US or China.
cr4yv3n 1 month ago
@Commandermethos
Wake up - even Merkel said publically that the referendum in Greece would simply be an "IN OUT" vote on the EU, after all if they turned down the package there was no way they could survive, they would default and leave the euro - and down would come the single monetary union - strangely enough the very thing that is causing all these problems in the first place.
Of course this could never be allowed to happen, the communist EU need to control the money - so NO referendum!!
booteu 2 months ago
Leonid Brezhnev and leadership of the Warsaw Pact countries worried that the unfolding liberalizations in Czechoslovakia, at approximately 11 pm on 20 August 1968, Eastern Bloc armies from five Warsaw Pact countries – the Soviet Union, Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, and East Germany – invaded Czechoslovakia.
Brezhnev used tanks and troops against the Czech's, Stalinkozy uses money against the Greek's- deep down they are exactly the same - both want to be leaders of a dictatorship.
booteu 2 months ago
it would make me more happy if england would give back what elgin stole(marbles of parthenon),if french would give back the golden coin of alexandros of makedonia&the statue of niki which they have in lubre,and if germany and other retards would stop badmouthing us not realising its their own fault also the economic crisis not ours only.(we r 1,7-1,8 of eurozone and they say we created the crisis.lol XD)that would make me more happy instead of beeing in EU like that
itachiitachi1946 2 months ago
"Greece is in uproar after French President Nicholas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel imposed the date and the referendum question and froze the 6th aid tranche of 8 billion euro until Greeks say YES to referendum"
The communist EU speaks!!!!
booteu 2 months ago
@booteu thats because the referendum is about weather or not greece should accept said aid package and the eu leaders need it resolved quickly.
CommanderMethos 2 months ago
fuck you europe and the antidemocratic scum in it i look forward to seeing you all on your knees and destroyed by a debt crisis forever along with merkel the cunt and sarkosi the french bastard your all bullys fuck europe and you that are in it i hope your all destroyed
graham640 2 months ago
Mr Sarkozy will argue the case for Beijing to supply funds at an eve-of-summit dinner with Chinese president Hu Jintao, the secretary general of the Chinease Communist Party
lol......Nicolas Stalinkozy will try to have his way with both stopping the democratic mandate of the Greek government and hand yet further influence to the CCP.
booteu 2 months ago
"I have never understood why public opinion about European ideas should be taken into account."
Raymond Barre, Mayor of Lyons and French Prime Minister 1976 - 1981
Looks like the feeling in the Eurozone is still exactly the same, lets hope Greece do hold the referendum and remind the other leaders of Europe what democracy is actually about. Once the Euro has collapsed lets hope the people of Britain will at last be given the chance to decide by our right to vote about EU membership.
booteu 2 months ago
"The Europe of Maastricht could only have been created in the absence of democracy."
Claude Cheysson, French Foreign Secretary 1981-1984
booteu 2 months ago
@Viriathus - You are right the European movement knew exactly what it was doing - it was it's people that were lied too.
"There will not be a blueprint for a Federal Europe"
Ted Heath British Prime Minister 1970
"There is no danger of a single currency."
Ted Heath 1975
When Ted Heath was asked in 1991 "...the single currency, the United States of Europe: was that on your mind when you took Britain in?" He answered,
"Of course, Yes."
booteu 2 months ago
@Viriathus - "federalism does not mean the end of national governments"
"the solidarity of the whole eurozone can only be sustained if everyone does what they are supposed to do."
Nicolas Sarkozy 01-11-11
Not what the dictator of the eurozone thinks is it!!!!!
booteu 2 months ago
@booteu
Go see then the swiss federal model,the one that is favored by the european movement,forming a federation,was never a secret,that was the initial goal since 1957.
ViriathusVingathor 2 months ago
"The most puzzling development in politics during the last decade is the apparent determination of Western European leaders to re-create the Soviet Union in Western Europe."
Mikhail Gorbachev, Soviet President, 1985-1991
booteu 2 months ago
@booteu Gorbachev is wrong.
Swiss style federalism doesn´t mean the end of national governments,but the reinforcement of the central government,that in turn will become more accountable to the population.
ViriathusVingathor 2 months ago
@ImperialDawn
The communist superstate is born. !!!!!!! crisis is JUST BEGGINING.
"Europe's nations should be guided towards the super-state without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation."
Jean Monnet - founder of the european movement 1952
booteu 2 months ago
@booteu Weird and counterproductive expression.
Yet,the European movement never masked its desire to form a federation,its patent in it since the very beginning.
ViriathusVingathor 2 months ago
@fuckislam1203 Oh fuck off.
ihatealderney 3 months ago
Most of the people commenting can't be european, they sound more like a bunch of islamic extremists.
Chanting white power and what-not.
You think you got power now? You got nothing!
Meansofviewing 3 months ago
@ImperialDawn indeed
CommanderMethos 3 months ago
@ImperialDawn agreed. however i think the whining has more to do with the load mouthed eurosceptics instantly blaming the EU for all the problems.
CommanderMethos 3 months ago
The problem with imigration in europe is that it's accepteble for imigrants to have there culture and not adapt to the culture that already exists. So what is culture? if we dont mention the lame stuff as food or clothes , its the cuture to obey rules, social norms and work. europeans are modern when it comes to that, muslims or africans are not. That's what creates problems. many becomes one and european multiculturism is DEAD!
Trudgelmer1 3 months ago
Go out of here Islam!
099Nitro 3 months ago 26
@imminent46 not all british are eu haters.
CommanderMethos 3 months ago
@imminent46 We don't think we're better than you we just want our country back. We don't want to be ruled by an UNELECTED commission. Who threaten to take the UK to court whenever we don't obey their stupid laws.
mikesheen741 3 months ago
@mikesheen741 Clueless twat!
We elect them. AFTER that they form the EU gov...
But you UK guys don´t want to join in anyway so why don´t stick with the US?
RegioLunar 3 months ago
@RegioLunar You don't know what you're talking about. We don't elect them. We elect Members of the European parliament. The 27 members of the European commission, which decides on laws, are all UNELECTED. The President of the European Union is UNELECTED. The president of the European Commission is UNELECTED.
mikesheen741 3 months ago
@mikesheen741 all legislation must be approved by the elected paliament and the council. i would also like to point out that as british subjects we have little right to critisize other institutions on their democratic processes.
CommanderMethos 3 months ago
@CommanderMethos Are you crazy? We have EVERY right to criticize an institution if it is making our laws.
mikesheen741 3 months ago
@mikesheen741 not when said institution uses a more democratic election process than our own. and does not have an unelected head of state.
CommanderMethos 3 months ago
@CommanderMethos It does have an unelected head of state and an unelected cabinet.
mikesheen741 3 months ago
@mikesheen741 britian has an unelected head of state and the potential for unelected members of the cabinet.
CommanderMethos 3 months ago
@CommanderMethos They Queen may be unelected but she is a figurehead and has no power. The cabinet ministers were all voted for by voters. NOBODY has ever voted for Catherine Ashton in her entire life.
mikesheen741 3 months ago
@mikesheen741 cabinet ministers can be drawn from the house of lords if the prime minister at the time wishes. futhermore the queen has the right to essentially veto any law she wants by refusing to ratify it as well as representing the country abroad on all manor of things.
CommanderMethos 3 months ago
@CommanderMethos
But you could vote her out. Well maybe not her because se does seem quite reasonable for a monarch but when her son...? I'm curous, can the queen veto laws indefinatelly or what would happen if she would refuse more than once? The president who signs our laws into effect can veto but if the parliament send the bill wiithout changes back to her and she refuses she will lose her job.
omegavalerius 3 months ago
@omegavalerius shes not voted into position so she cant be voted out. its hereditary. to get rid of the monarchy would require changes to the constitution. as for the veto as far as i am aware she could do as many times as she wants but so far shes never done it yet.
CommanderMethos 3 months ago
@imminent46 Yes. Or Switzerland. Some business have even said so themselves. Do you not know anything about how this world works?
mikesheen741 3 months ago
@imminent46 Oh, and:
Germans rate their lives worse on average than do adults living in the U.K. and the U.S., according to the inaugural findings from the Germany Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index. Less than half, 41.1%, of Germans rate their current lives and expectations for their lives in five years high enough to be classified as "thriving," compared with 52% of Britons and 52.9% of Americans who say the same.
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 Uh...the US has a pretty damn good GDP per-capita as well. Higher than most European countries, actually, including Germany...
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 Ah, so we're going by the basis of per-capita wealth? Well, then I guess Norway, Qatar, and Singapore are the world's superpowers. LOL.
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 So you defend the EU by saying that it has a lot of cash with which to pay its debts, while simultaneously alleging that China, the most cash-rich country in the world, has no strong foundations. This shit is hilarious.
Hate t burst your bubble, but according to a note published by HSBC last Wednesday, net exports made almost zero contribution to China’s 9.6 per cent GDP growth in the first half of 2011, meaning its GDP growth was SOLELY due to domestic demand.
Truth hurts!
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 Do you actually expect me to believe this bullshit? I know about counties from Spain to Belarus negotiating deals to receive loans from China. Belarus just received a $1 billion loan two weeks ago, and Spain has been courting China, along with its Confucius Institutes, like crazy. Even Germany has jumped on the learn-Chinese bandwagon, with there being a 45% increase in the number of German schools teaching Chinese over four years ago.
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 European countries are "paying it off" from cash provided by China buying more of their debt. LOL.
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 lol, well okay then. If you say so, it must be true.
Can the US have no debt too? Pretty please? :)
You can throw in Japan while you're at it, since they're nice folks.
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 Best at collecting debt?
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 No thanks. I'd rather not lose money to fiscally irresponsible countries.
VictimOfBoredom 3 months ago
@imminent46 It would be good for most of the world because all the large British corporations would move to China or America so British tax revenue would decrease. So it would destroy the British economy. You also seem a bit thick if you think the riots were caused by bankers. and what is a "nabshit"?
mikesheen741 3 months ago
Brussels and the EU can fuck off and stop interfering with British laws.
mikesheen741 3 months ago
Europe to Europeans. All others go back home.
MacLeigh 4 months ago
@imminent46 which is why secularism is a good idea.
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
@imminent46 so the american goverenment system then. where the centeral goverenment sets foreign and home security policy and the day to day running of the states is left to the local state level government.
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
@imminent46 In America we had a war, the civil war, after the war was over all 50 states lost their independence to the federal government. When you give power to a central force you lose your independence.
Jononutoob 4 months ago
@imminent46
Retard Im not a muslim,and the days US strength are over,is just the muzzies decide to burn their oil fields and the US economy is literally history,BTW decide to invade the middle east with Israel,Russia,China.the EU would step in and fuck your country all across the world.
ViriathusVingathor 4 months ago
So you all fight to the death to stop Hitler from forming a unified identical European world.... Then 50 years later you openly want it? LOL. You idiots.
Jononutoob 4 months ago
@Jononutoob partly because the ideal of a federated europ and what hitler tried to achieve are completly diffrent. and partly because that was 50 years ago when the individual european countrys still had barganing power on there own.
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
@imminent46
Not really honored,many europeans are even ashamed with this EU-US cooperation,much better we would be with a alliance with Russia.
ViriathusVingathor 4 months ago
@imminent46
Fuck Israel,the european people will only want something with those criminals,when Palestine is independent.
ViriathusVingathor 4 months ago
@ViriathusVingathor You should realize some facts than you insult Israel!
If you're such an European patriot you should support Israel because it is the only state that shows us how to eliminate violent Muslim immigration which wants to destroy our great continent of Europe with its noble culture of development.
I am not a philo-semite but I know who's on the same side of the barricade.
radikborov 4 months ago
@imminent46 switzerlands been able to maintain its neutrality because of the mnumbers. switzerland doesnt get invaded for three reasons. the banks. the geography. the fact everyone over 21 knows how to use a gun and legally owns enogth firepower to equip a small army.
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
@imminent46 Really? Why can't America and Switzerland get along then?
VanillaSnow23 4 months ago
@imminent46 in polotics no one is to be trusted. and switzerland being switzerland wont accept american support. escpecially when the american government is trying to get the swiss government to release the numbers
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
Europeans will not surpass us Americans. Nada!
VanillaSnow23 4 months ago
@VanillaSnow23 we dont want to suppress americans. we want to sort our selves out without america feeling the need to interfer
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
Europeans.... they think there real smart.. especially "smarter" than "Americans"... Europe is a HUGE step further into One World Government... All Of Europe is already owned by banks at 100 percent and established.. We Americans, Mexicans and Canadians still have a chance.. So Shut The Fuck Up :)
thatmetalguy85 4 months ago
@thatmetalguy85 lol ive seen bush ghaha real smart american ;)
xthexlastxhopex 4 months ago
@imminent46 considering that world has changed alot since ww2 that could be interesting. however as far as i can see its going to come down to pure numbers in such a contest.
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
@imminent46
In view that only "now"! in the 20th century, no one even could not imagine that China will be one of the most developed nations on the planet! and now China is developing very fast! if the growth of such countries as the United States and Russia have the years that China, with its growth rate should be months! must look the truth my eyes!
AlderWolff 4 months ago
Our former European glory goes out as the Egyptian civilization!You want to live yesterday or today? your children want to live in tomorrow. I think I made it clear what will happen to Europe in the near future! You choose your future!
AlderWolff 4 months ago
For the euro skeptics can only say one thing, you see how China's economy develops with a billion people? you see how economy develops India with a billion people? China the second economy in the world! India in fourth place but with the growth in India will become the third place! and now someone Europe who one by one?? Germany, France and Britain? I am sorry to say but they will not dominate the world! European countries in the future will not be left in place in the ranking of the economy!
AlderWolff 4 months ago
@izzebooi all the languages should be dialects? what that's supposed to mean?
HUNdAntae 4 months ago
EUROPEAN UNION IS DEAD - WE DON'T NEED EU IN POLAND AND EURO. POLAND WILL LEAVE EU BEFORE 2015 AND STARTS ITS OWN UNION - EASTERN UNION OPEN FOR EVERY MARKET IN THE WORLD WITHOUT STUPID EU REGULATIONS. POLAND WAS FREE, IS FREE AND WILL BE - NO FOR NEW SOVIET EUROPEAN UNION
Hackseeit 4 months ago
@Hackseeit your a bigger dreamer than we federalists. poland cant afford to leave the eu.
CommanderMethos 4 months ago 8
Well, EU is heading to become a United States of Europe Which nobody wants, except for some multikulti liberal israel-adoring assholes. Europe should be going back to be a Europe of Nations
HUNdAntae 4 months ago
@HUNdAntae i dont actually see what the problem with islam is. its a religous lifestyle and if you really are that worried about it go support secularism.
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
@CommanderMethos actually there is no problem with islam. the problem is that there are people who refuseto follow the general regulations, refuse to blend in even in the most minimal way, into the 1000 year-old european 'lifestyle' as you say. and covering themselves with religion, and continously asking for support. But basicly islam is the problem of the west.
btw i do support secularism, as well as protectionism
HUNdAntae 4 months ago
@08daviee Bollocks... you brits actually fantasize about fulfilling an old wet dream of yours, of having another Empire under the Sun. It's got you scared that you can't, and the only way for any of us Euros to prosper and ultimately survive in this globalized world is through unity. You're too caught up in your past (like most of Westerners) to realize that your pride has no basis in today's reality and this is the shortest path to eating RUS', CHIN', IND' and US's dirt in the decades to come.
empyrionin 5 months ago
If Europe got it's act together and became united as a single county their would be:
1- LOWER TAXES because the cost can be spread around
2- NO MORE BEING PUSHED AROUND BY AMERICA
(Europe has the best trained militaries in the world to make up for the small size of them)
3- RELIABLE FUCKING PUBLIC TRANSPORT (ima Britain and buses/trains are FUCKING SHIT)
4- did i mention LOWER FUCKING TAXES
valltcon 6 months ago
@valltcon once europe is united reliable fucking public transport will come.
MichaeldbLinton 5 months ago
@08daviee We weren't but Blair was. Ultimately if we MUST form a single nation of some sort if we want to remain relevant in the world that is increasingly influenced by the US, China, and (if they sort themselves out) India.
There are too many nations in Europe, it makes large projects very difficult, it weakens our global influence and reduces intermingling of people and ideas. A gradual and voluntary union would be great.
And I'm not saying this lightly, I also have concerns it.
Ashitaka255 6 months ago
Fall of Europe Hitler & Nazi's
Rise of Europe USA Kicks Nazi's Ass & Save's Europe
FormerEuropean 6 months ago
another victim of evil europe in the form of greece i hope that the pig nations default and destroy your europe forever and consine it to the dustbin of political history where it belongs evil evil antidemocratic people rot in hell all of you
graham640 7 months ago
BILDERBERG GROUP MEETINGS WERE ATTENDED BY EU OFFICIALS EUROPE IS EVIL BILDERBERG IS EVIL
graham640 7 months ago
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mammasut82 7 months ago
@mammasut82 Ve vil rul ze vorld!
empyrionin 5 months ago
FUCK YOU EU! YOU PIECE OF SHITS WITH YOUR GAY FLAGS FU YOU ALL EUROPEAN UNION COUNTRIES INCLUDING MY OWN,BITCH!!!!
vilnius194 8 months ago
Multicultural Europe will never survive.
chemerich 8 months ago 14
@chemerich
We got our Culture!
I dont except islam in europe.
Unkn0wnV13wer 5 months ago 9
@TsarSamuil Oh yeah, cause you know, Europeans have a great history of of non intervention >.>'
[sarcasm]
Kanoki989 8 months ago
@graham640 Sucks to be you! When colonial styled welfare doesn't work, you shouldn't try to grow it by takeing more loan to replace the missing money like Greece. Drink more you drunk, hopefully unemployed dick who blames others on his problems. I hope you live long life.
MrSinkoZimo 8 months ago
I FUCKING HATE ALL OF YOU EUROPEAN BULLIES YOUR A SHOWER OF TRAMPS ALL OF YOU
graham640 8 months ago
YOU IMBRED SHOWER OF UNDEMOCRATIC TRAMPS HOPE MY COUNTRY AND GREECE DEFAULT AND PULL YOU ALL DOWN WITH US YOU FUCKING BASTARDS
graham640 8 months ago
It's true, a European superstate could be very strong indeed. However nationalism is popular in Europe, many ppl won't like it.
dekippiesip 8 months ago
@dekippiesip give it a cople of generations and that will change
CommanderMethons 8 months ago
@graham640 well, your great argumentation really convice me... about what you're a shit
mat290596 8 months ago
IM JUST AFTER LISTENING TO A VERY INFORMATIVE INTERVIEW ON BBC RADIO 4 THAT HAS CONCLUDED THAT EUROPE UNION AND THE ECB FORCED THE IRISH GOVERNMENT TO ACCEPT THEIR RIP OFF BAIL OUT BECAUSE YOU EUROPEANS WERE TO WORRIED ABOUT YOU R SO CALLED EUROPE AND YOU GOOD FOR NOTHING EURO CURRENCY AS FOR GERMANY AND FRANCE THEY WERE SO PISSED OFF AT IRELAND THEY WERE THE BIGGEST BULLIES OF ALL SO I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG ALL YOU EUROPEAN ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING OUT FOR YOUR OWN INTERESTS
graham640 9 months ago
I LOVE YOU ALL, EUROPEAN BROTHERS!
MadameGiustizia 9 months ago 55
@MadameGiustizia
It should be noted that Spaniards are NOT Europeans but Gypsy -Moors instead!
ScotsIrishReb 9 months ago
@ScotsIrishReb And it should be noted that if that was even remotely true, that would make your Italian peepz LESS European and Egypto-Syrio-Palestinian-Anatolian-Jewish-Moors instead.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
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@ScotsIrishReb
Where are your sources then.
StellandBlood 8 months ago
@MadameGiustizia LOL, an Italian..
tubbyboy1985 4 months ago
If Europe become one, we will be the strongest ! we will be 1st economic power, and in ten years, we can become the first military power ! Next, we will be able to be respected, unlike now ( do you remember when US fuck the french veto right in 2006 about the war in Irak... It won't arrive anymore!)
a little frog (sorry for my bad english)
mat290596 9 months ago
@mat290596 YOU AND YOUR EUROPE ARE BULLIES THAT ALL YOU ARE FUCK YOU AND EUROPE WANKERS
graham640 9 months ago
@graham640 theres a reason the third world countrys are developing country. 1 because unlike us they dont have to develop new technology to expand. 2 they recive development aid from countrys such as europe and america.
CommanderMethos 9 months ago
ive got news for all of you european fools i just been looking at a video of the brics nations these are brazil india china and souh africa they are booming and progressing a lot better than any of us in europe and america isint mutch better theBRICS WILL SOON BE THE NEW ECONOMIC SUPERPOWER i hope they destroy europe each and everyone and our so called bailouts wont be mutch good to us then nor will your poxy euro
graham640 9 months ago
fuck you and your europe tramps all of you european bastards
graham640 9 months ago
@graham640 Haha, tuhduhduhduh, can't touch this ^^ Tuhduhduhduh, can't touch this ^_^.. Like the song says dude, we will never fade away.. See the world out there? Look out the window, put on your radio, go on the internet and open your eyes, it already is our world :D Gay rights in Marokko? Europe! Democracy? Europe! Capitalism? Europe! The new world? Europe! The list is endless and we haven't nearly yet begun! But don't worry, we are peaceful this time, if the world allows us to be!
TTFLS 9 months ago
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@graham640 keep that attitude and soon the whole europe will be mad at u...and trust me....if u make europe mad then ur ass will be totaly kicked(and i dont like EU but i had to be honest about that.u just cant mess with eu)
itachiitachi1946 8 months ago
The United States of Europe The New Superpower and the End of American Supremacy. God bless Europe.
veldscha 9 months ago 3
The United States of Europe The New Superpower and the End of American Supremacy. God bless Europe
veldscha 9 months ago 4
We want a union of people not of CAPITALISTS like EU!!
Redpersonality 10 months ago
FUCK EU!!!
Redpersonality 10 months ago
fuck europe
graham640 11 months ago
@ Christophilus - go take a shower then...
brit1955 11 months ago
Over 22 million people unemployed in the EU and over 20% youth unemployment.
Enjoy the video.
There's nothing else to do...
brit1955 11 months ago
@brit1955 "Over 22 million people unemployed in the EU and over 20% youth unemployment"
Now ask yourself.. do they wan't to work?
Whats that shit called in english.. you go to this place and put a little stamp every month and you get 600-800 euro for doing NOTHING.
People like you are just ignorant.
There is work enough and will always be enough to make some money, people need to look harder instead of complaining so goddamn much all the time.
Vleesball 9 months ago
fuck you all and your poxy europe shove it you fuck witts
graham640 11 months ago
@graham640 fuck your country and did you know your country is lame thats why your gay cause you EU's cock
eurostar131 10 months ago
fuck europe your all wankers
graham640 11 months ago
@graham640 what?! how can you say that we d everything like we agreed in all laws and rights repsect every right some poleticians are idiots but you have that every where we only try to help the world since were already first world countries we try to build up africa and help them to be able to keep all rights posible like the human rights we only do good sure we have some miner min points like every country but if you see how many good we do how we keep our selfs together while being treathWTF
MrTimothytim 11 months ago
the rest of the speach you have in the bar below
We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not combined. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And Should European statesman address us in the words which were used of old Shall I speak for thee to the King or the Lord of the Host? we should reply with the words of the Shunamite woman: Nay sir, for we dwell among our own people.
Winston Churchill
EnglandPerson 11 months ago
@EnglandPerson yeah he was for a united states of europe but did not want to be a part of it only because he was still in love with the british empire. Then it dissolved.
EuropeanBrit 11 months ago
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this video is misleading because anyone knows the eu and europe are the same thing anyone who doent think so are mistaken
EnglandPerson 11 months ago
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EnglandPerson 11 months ago
WATCH the VIDEO on you tube titled...
" Immigration and the moral right to save Europe and the West! "
Achilles1389 11 months ago
W THE EUROPE ! greetings from Italy
SimoneLethalDevils 1 year ago
Everything that rises must fall !
nabuco00 1 year ago
European Parliament passed the bill regarding the creation of
SAFE - Synchronized Armed Forces Europe. Also, other governmental and defensive institutions like SAFE are being summoned throughout Europe. My personal opinion is, that this recession WAS A BLESSING! Because now Europe must unify to survive!
Mark my words, my European brothers, our day will come soon...
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago
Furder more, What is that song called? I want to add it to my Ipod. 1 Europe, wish for hope, peace and prosperity. unfortunatly, the Europeans still have tons of problems to solve before the final stage.
PierreRMB 1 year ago
For Europe I stand, Dispite our history of civil wars I say that we should have a European election for an actual European President. I say that the EU is just the basis for an even greater Europen plan to Unify under one common Superpower. :)
PierreRMB 1 year ago
Europeans, you are all brothers. Banners and flags are irrelevant, you share common ancestry. UNIFY.
TheBiggestWolf 1 year ago 5
Different languages and arrogant nationalism of some peoples will prevent Europe from ever being united.
Iyoulikeyoutoo 1 year ago
@Iyoulikeyoutoo
Yeah nationalism is the problem ,not the fact that europeans slowy are beeing exchange by third world immigrants and islam. Something the EU is encourages. EU does not represent the true soul of Europa, it a supernational orgnization of merchants that dont care about our culture, and have no real european pride. Liberalism is EU culture. To support EU today is to wish for demise of the european people and its culture. Dont fool yourself brothers and sisters. Ave Europa
Carpediem8110101 11 months ago 2
I wish Britain would stop being an American Poodle and take a more productive role in Europe, were we, as Europeans, belong.
DARuffle177 1 year ago 57
@DARuffle177 You are correct the British people need to learn that their future is with Europe and not with America
MalteserGezar 1 year ago
@MalteserGezar I'm British and I completely agree. I think our problem is the older generation still pine for the glory days of the Empire when Britain was a bully and didn't even consider compromising with Johnny foreigner. Fuck the empire, fuck the old cunts, fuck being derided as the "poodle of America" and Viva Europe.
Flipmole123 1 year ago
@Flipmole123 You are right on the money flip but it's not just Britain a lot of the european countries think the same thing. They remember what it used to be like to have an empire and to once be great, but if two world wars have taught us anything it's that europe divided is a bad thing. Besides we all share the same common ancestory so we should be united. Viva Europe!!! It is our future.
MalteserGezar 1 year ago
@MalteserGezar It's more than that. It's our divine destiny. Only there are some stubborn people not willing to see what amazing future shall be upon us.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters One day my european brother we will become one and our destiny will be achieved, Embrace Europa!!
MalteserGezar 1 year ago
@MalteserGezar My thoughts exactly. EU is already stronger than it's member states, because of the fact that if an member state constitution interferes with a EU law, it is the member state constitution that is changed, not that of EU. It's really like federation already, why don't those ball-less people make it public already!! :D
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters That's true indeed, there was a referendum in Romania in 2009 to reduce the number of parliament members and to have only one parliament chamber. Apparently, this won't happen because the European constitution requires member states to have two chambers...
speew 1 year ago
@speew Yep. Making it public that EU indeed is a federation - it really is - would summon quite a fuss over the world, though.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Because they are politcians and not idealist like us, they are constantly kept back by there own bureaucracy. They do not see clearly because their vision is blured by it, we on the other hand see with absolute clarity for we look to the future and what is best in the long run for all our nations. We need each more than ever if we are to contend with Russia, America and china.
MalteserGezar 11 months ago
@MalteserGezar You've got a fine point there. Russia is beatable with even the current Union, but China and USA will still outmatch us in efficiency and military power. Happy news is, that EU is the largest export entity in the world AND the largest economy in the world. Besides this pro-memberstate crap is just shit. What use it is to be separated and weak? It just makes the once proud european continent miserable and ashamed. Together we could restore the power of Europe, it's needed.
OnlyLifeMatters 11 months ago
@OnlyLifeMatters You couldn't be more right my friend. Bottom line Europe is number one for many things in the world. To restore European hope, pride and honour we need to be united it will also enamble us to survive this new age of the superstate probably as the leading power as well.
MalteserGezar 11 months ago
@MalteserGezar Also, to ensure the stability in the world, EU should team up with China. They already are each others' biggest trading partners. It doesn't ask for great intelligence to realize that EU and China are trying to freeze out the USA by teaming up, and that's of course something that I have nothing against. USA has been the leading power for too long and for wrong reasons. They don't deserve that position.
OnlyLifeMatters 11 months ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Its more likely that China and Russia would form a union together than with us, but if that happened America would most likely side with us as a trading partner to combat that threat. Either way we'd be on top although we could sustain our selfs quite comfortably without these unions as long as Europe is united and not divided.
MalteserGezar 11 months ago
@DARuffle177
I agree.
WSWarthog 11 months ago
@DARuffle177 wear never amercas poodle its just they will be allies for ever and family because of there ancestry
EnglandPerson 11 months ago
@EnglandPerson that is very naive to think so...the obama administration and hilary clinton has said..."if britain doesn't want to be a part of europe, then america doesn't really have much interest in the United Kingdom".
EuropeanBrit 11 months ago
@EuropeanBrit where did that come from the eu euniverse and you say europe i am not against europe just the eu you foul
EnglandPerson 11 months ago
@EnglandPerson i'm not going to debate with someone who can't spell.
EuropeanBrit 11 months ago
@EuropeanBrit oh is that the best you can do tell a person they cant spell when they know the difference between the eu and europe you sad plonker
EnglandPerson 11 months ago
@EnglandPerson what are you talking about...i know Europe and the EU are different, Europe is a continent and the European Union is a political institution.
EuropeanBrit 11 months ago
@EuropeanBrit not just that europe is all differant cultures and idenities and its arrogant to think one system fits all the only way to know for shore is for all member countries to have a fair vote in or out
EnglandPerson 10 months ago
@EnglandPerson scotland, wales and northern ireland are different countries, with different cultures and yes the United Kingdom is a union of countries.
EuropeanBrit 10 months ago
@EuropeanBrit u forgot england you bigert
EnglandPerson 10 months ago
@EuropeanBrit but in truth its hard to say they have differant cultures when you look at peoples ancestries are from all the differant home nations and britain jointed the eu as a country as well its the same treatment for all weather you like it or not
EnglandPerson 10 months ago
@EuropeanBrit so devolved or not at the moment the uk is the country at least till one member declares independence completely whitch last time i checked the last scottish vote was in favour of the united kingdom
EnglandPerson 10 months ago
@EnglandPerson it's spelt bigot. And i am English.
EuropeanBrit 10 months ago