Celestial navigation has always fascinated me, so I designed a solar instrument that is accurate to within 2 arc minutes, with aid of an ordinary watch (i prefer mechanical seiko.)
As part of that was teaching myself how to use a sextant. A very good instrument.
I speak as a former chip's Master in the British Merchant Fleet.I used all these instruments my working life..Accuracy to within 1,5 nautical miles is guaranteed,if you can use the sextant properly that is.Morning and evening sights with five stars give even better accuracy.No batteries,no power;just a chronometer-clockwork,nautical almanac and the sextant.
@chromzepher You don't get Latitude from GMT noon, you need local noon to get latitude. The GMT noon. when compared to local noon, will give you longitude. Wherever you are on earth, if you use a quadrant or a sextant, you can find your latitude when you measure at local noon.
as a master mariner and keen cel navigator i thought the video was excellent, enough information and very easy to understand KIS If i need to navigate i dont need to understand all the theory but i do need to know how to find where i am
How can a watch show you south when it comes up in the east 12 will be north what dose time witch canges have to do with south that is always the same? Making stuff up seams to be what you do
@cloneabe For instance, if the sun rises at 6am, and the minute hand will be a 12. South will be at 9. At 9am South will be at 10.30. At noon, when both hands are at 12..then we have south at noon. At 3pm, south will be at 1.30..If the sun sets at 6pm south will be at 3. Hope this helps
I don't need to navigate by the sun. If I ever were lost, then I would probably be on vacation in a foreign country, in which case I would simply ask someone for directions. You know; back to my hotel, to a restaurant, to the closest public bathroom if my bowels were about explode, etc.
why do those kinds of videos are not being watched, fred, shane dawson is being watched a lot. However not those kinds of videos. I can't change anything, but that is unfair
no offense but your ability to instruct seems to be a challenge
if ya don't mind advise.. is that you need to not stream continuous information like a barrage .. rather pace upon the development of the points generated.. a great big mistake is folks,assume others will know certain things and leave gaps, as well as not being minded or able to simplify everything, another great error.
Your moving graphics are great. I wish we had you tube 20 years ago when I inherited my grandfather's sextant. I eventually figured out these methods from books, but it took days!
may i ask...why did u have 8 points on the last graph...do you check miday angles between the horizon and the sun on your watch for 8 days? or did you mean a weak ? or are more trials just better?
@slaimouf the 8 points all take place on the same day around noon time. When exactly they happen isn't as important as that noon is somewhere in the "middle." Of course, they have to be close enough together that you can actually tell when noon was. That is, you are trying to find the sun's highest altitude (which happens at noon). For more information, you might want to Google "noon site." I hope that helps.
Technically the axis of the Earth does not tilt much throughout the year at all. The axis that the Earth spins on is always pointed very close to the Pole Star (Polaris), regardless of season, time of year. The "axis tilt" is only an "apparant tilt", and this is the angle with respect to the solar plane of the sun. This effect is due to the Earth being on different sides of the Sun throughout the year. If anyone wants a simple tilt formula then message me.
@uzedaman The trick of finding south using only a watch is an old Boy Scout trick I learned back in the 60's. It was in the "Boy Scout Handbook". Just ignore the minute hand, and line up the hour hand to the sun. Then, find noon (12) on your watch. Due south will be exactly between the hour hand and the 12 on your watch.
@lochinvar00465 that is only if your in the northern hemisphere, if your in the south hemisphere you must point the 12 at the sun and its the difference in between the 12 and your hour hand
i remember a tv show, the placed a couple of scientists or just clever people on some random place on earth and they had to find what country they where in. and at the end of the show they where given a world map and was supposed to point out their position. If i just can remember what name the show had XD
Really nicely done! I used to teach field expedient navigation (land) and frankly since taking up sailing it's been GREAT learning CelNav and the history of the brilliant people who developed it.
Thanks for the kind words. They're really appreciated. Celestial navigation was one of my favorite classes back in school, and I figured I should share.
Keep in mind the following: (1) If you're in the Southern Hemisphere, halfway between the hour-hand and "noon" is due north; (2) we're talking about true north, not magnetic north; and (3) both standardized time zones daylight savings introduce error as this method was devised to work with local time. Also, there's some error introduced around sunrise and sunset due to the angles involved.
Hi i think what he was trying to say is that when you are in the north hemisphere then the halfway between your hour hand (pointing to the sun) and the noon (which does not always have to be 12) is south. your noon will always create 90 degree angle with your hour hand which is pointing the sun. since our 12-hour watch rotate twice as fast as the sun rotation in one day.
hey this is terrific information but yeah... if i needed to look up declination on the web I'd just look up the longitude and latitude and be done with it.
Fair enough. When I need to do complex calculations I usually consult a calculator and I'm always using my GPS. They're faster and more accurate, but sometimes it's nice to go old school. ;)
oh no I know what you mean. I go old school sometimes too. It gives you the same sort feeling of accomplishment as building a stupidly complex rube gold-berg machine.
I still often use the Sun to orient myself to the cardinal directions which is helpful when driving. On a long road trip in the absence of clear signage, I once pointed out we were heading the wrong way because the Sun was on the wrong side of the car. Admittedly, however, the latitude was not important. ;)
This is cool stuff, and actually telles everything you need to know, therefore my question may seem redundant, but could you post a video where you actually demontrate the usage of these homemade devices to do landnavigation?
I thank you so much for responding I'd like to pose a question for you and that is do all the planets revolve around the sun in the same speed? I believe they do (which is 1037 1/3mph ; what do you think?
They do not. How fast a planet orbits depends on how far away it is from the Sun. Google "Kepler's laws of planetary motion" and check out his third law.
I believe thats a lie to keep people off track so it becomes immpossible for them to tap into other energy sources and ways to navigate across the universe. if you don't believe in ufo's check out the 'disclosure project'
Thanks, since leaving the classroom, this has been the primary outlet for feeding my teaching habit. I'm hoping to produce something new in early January. So stay tuned.
I thought it was pretty danged professional. From the perspective of a person growing up in the 70's-80's and watching "professional" instructional videos at school...you are light-years ahead.
Don't take that as a dig.
I am saying...that I really actually enjoyed YOUR video, which has more editorial impact that a dry interpretation of production quality, etc.
Disagree? Check out the movie "Prime" which was filmed for a RIDICULOUSLY low budget and is a GREAT movie.
Working on this, it has become clear to me that I really need a digital camera. My built-in iSight is great, but really limiting. I'm rather disappointed with its effect on production quality. I also really need a good mic. :(
Anywho, this was an entry in a contest. If I had more time I would have borrowed some nice gear, and I would have included some music as well. I have to admit, however, I'm quite happy that I hit the 5 min limit dead on, and it's not bad for a two-day turn around.
pretty confusing stuff, although I´m sure absolutely logical
bengtmartin 2 weeks ago
Celestial navigation has always fascinated me, so I designed a solar instrument that is accurate to within 2 arc minutes, with aid of an ordinary watch (i prefer mechanical seiko.)
As part of that was teaching myself how to use a sextant. A very good instrument.
Thank you for the articulate video, well done.
1Joyeux 4 weeks ago
Guys, there is a new navigation game specifically design for iPhone devices, called Matmon.
It provides you with an amazing outdoor experience!
The game is based on mission that you create directly on your iPhone!
Unlike similar products on the market - There is no need to load coordinates into your device, you even do not need to know what coordinates are.
You can also share your missions using Bluetooth with other iPhone devices (look for MATMON in the App Store or in Facebook)
aweinsto 1 month ago
@aweinsto How do you spell stone age? E M P
1Joyeux 4 weeks ago
Every impressive. Thanks.
ddbxyrj 5 months ago
I speak as a former chip's Master in the British Merchant Fleet.I used all these instruments my working life..Accuracy to within 1,5 nautical miles is guaranteed,if you can use the sextant properly that is.Morning and evening sights with five stars give even better accuracy.No batteries,no power;just a chronometer-clockwork,nautical almanac and the sextant.
Squarerig 6 months ago
what?
FALLENMAGGOTSHIT 6 months ago
Screw this I'll stick to my gps x)
HeyitsCalifornia 7 months ago
Awesome vid.. i had to watch it a couple of times to be able to understand it. but it was cool to learn.
pgzero78 8 months ago
you dont need a watch to see north just look where east is and west and your done
CoolKillerClan 8 months ago
@CoolKillerClan That's hard to do when the sun is at it's zenith
glasgowcolo 7 months ago
@deppressed1 My doctorate (Ph.D.) is in Economics
moneybanking1 8 months ago
Nice job! I've added it to my Maps & Mapping playlist for my Urban Economics students.
--Dr. John Sase
urbanecondetroit 8 months ago
There is one thing I'm not understanding and that's how do you get your latitude from the time (noon) relative to noon in GMT
chromzepher 9 months ago
@chromzepher You don't get Latitude from GMT noon, you need local noon to get latitude. The GMT noon. when compared to local noon, will give you longitude. Wherever you are on earth, if you use a quadrant or a sextant, you can find your latitude when you measure at local noon.
glasgowcolo 7 months ago
You're good! :)
mastrogiorgis 9 months ago
How u changed ur channel logo... plz reply,...
HatafKhalil 9 months ago
as a master mariner and keen cel navigator i thought the video was excellent, enough information and very easy to understand KIS If i need to navigate i dont need to understand all the theory but i do need to know how to find where i am
great work , keep it up
yellowberd 10 months ago
How can a watch show you south when it comes up in the east 12 will be north what dose time witch canges have to do with south that is always the same? Making stuff up seams to be what you do
cloneabe 11 months ago
@cloneabe For instance, if the sun rises at 6am, and the minute hand will be a 12. South will be at 9. At 9am South will be at 10.30. At noon, when both hands are at 12..then we have south at noon. At 3pm, south will be at 1.30..If the sun sets at 6pm south will be at 3. Hope this helps
glasgowcolo 7 months ago
why does your graphic show the sun going around the earth?
lesorciercalifornien 11 months ago
digital clock not included
12ock 11 months ago
This is the first bloody video that actually tells how to calculate this stuff
nallepuh6969 1 year ago
I don't need to navigate by the sun. If I ever were lost, then I would probably be on vacation in a foreign country, in which case I would simply ask someone for directions. You know; back to my hotel, to a restaurant, to the closest public bathroom if my bowels were about explode, etc.
chesley69 1 year ago
Psh, i knew this when i was 10 thanks to runescape =P
smelzlikeflowerz 1 year ago
wtf where is south? 0:38
patolorde 1 year ago
wtf is south?
patolorde 1 year ago
The sun revolves around the Earth! Dude you should publish.
pirskwayrd 1 year ago
why do those kinds of videos are not being watched, fred, shane dawson is being watched a lot. However not those kinds of videos. I can't change anything, but that is unfair
ArtemTishakov 1 year ago
my brain took a dump
dja1312 1 year ago
aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh big words...
thedash3004 1 year ago
what a loser i want to know how to navigate by sun without all the fancy equiptment
BobSmiIey 1 year ago
no offense but your ability to instruct seems to be a challenge
if ya don't mind advise.. is that you need to not stream continuous information like a barrage .. rather pace upon the development of the points generated.. a great big mistake is folks,assume others will know certain things and leave gaps, as well as not being minded or able to simplify everything, another great error.
frank0067 1 year ago
Your moving graphics are great. I wish we had you tube 20 years ago when I inherited my grandfather's sextant. I eventually figured out these methods from books, but it took days!
70TheProfessor 1 year ago
may i ask...why did u have 8 points on the last graph...do you check miday angles between the horizon and the sun on your watch for 8 days? or did you mean a weak ? or are more trials just better?
slaimouf 1 year ago
@slaimouf week* srry
slaimouf 1 year ago
@slaimouf the 8 points all take place on the same day around noon time. When exactly they happen isn't as important as that noon is somewhere in the "middle." Of course, they have to be close enough together that you can actually tell when noon was. That is, you are trying to find the sun's highest altitude (which happens at noon). For more information, you might want to Google "noon site." I hope that helps.
dcolarusso 1 year ago
Technically the axis of the Earth does not tilt much throughout the year at all. The axis that the Earth spins on is always pointed very close to the Pole Star (Polaris), regardless of season, time of year. The "axis tilt" is only an "apparant tilt", and this is the angle with respect to the solar plane of the sun. This effect is due to the Earth being on different sides of the Sun throughout the year. If anyone wants a simple tilt formula then message me.
trailkeeper 1 year ago
thats genius about the watch, does it matter where the minute and hour hand are? did you come up with that yourself?
uzedaman 1 year ago
@uzedaman The trick of finding south using only a watch is an old Boy Scout trick I learned back in the 60's. It was in the "Boy Scout Handbook". Just ignore the minute hand, and line up the hour hand to the sun. Then, find noon (12) on your watch. Due south will be exactly between the hour hand and the 12 on your watch.
lochinvar00465 1 year ago
@lochinvar00465 that is only if your in the northern hemisphere, if your in the south hemisphere you must point the 12 at the sun and its the difference in between the 12 and your hour hand
BobSmiIey 1 year ago
@lochinvar00465 and also that method is less accurate the closer to the equator you are
BobSmiIey 1 year ago
i remember a tv show, the placed a couple of scientists or just clever people on some random place on earth and they had to find what country they where in. and at the end of the show they where given a world map and was supposed to point out their position. If i just can remember what name the show had XD
timonix2 1 year ago
what is the sun. its a ball of light
xf4ktor 1 year ago
my watch stopped working but i feel better after watching this as i am only on earth twice every day it doesn't affect me. :)
NINJACHESSMASTER 1 year ago
nice video very clear. thanks
carriefwb 1 year ago
i feel smarter curse you youtube ur supposed t have funny videos D8
loumast123456789 1 year ago
I have a digital watch. I wound up in Pittsberg.
gamesbok 1 year ago 3
What's funny is I thought this was literally a video on how some form of shuttle or transport could navigate people by the sun...
fabsthegreat123 2 years ago
Really nicely done! I used to teach field expedient navigation (land) and frankly since taking up sailing it's been GREAT learning CelNav and the history of the brilliant people who developed it.
Thanks for posting this excellent video.
-RadioRay
svprovidence 2 years ago
Thanks for the kind words. They're really appreciated. Celestial navigation was one of my favorite classes back in school, and I figured I should share.
dcolarusso 2 years ago
Holy-Terrorist:>wtf, the earth have rotation with the sun, and the rotation earth sun haved 1year !!!
Agentoxedo07 2 years ago
and by the way, good explanation
polarkerr 2 years ago
At night The North star "the great bear pointing to Polaris" can be used for the northern Hemisphere.
Sextant: Go Abbassyd Empire
polarkerr 2 years ago
Don't forget the shadows, can tell a lot
I use them to figure out my day's prayer times.
polarkerr 2 years ago
thank you. =)
xeleft85 2 years ago
Very informative. Thank you
joe2sam888 2 years ago
Excellent. Good basic info that too few people know.
I USED to know the hour-hand vs south trick and FORGOT IT. I'd tried finding it online and couldn't. Glad you reminded me!
GetMeThere1 2 years ago
great. i had this in school and i still love it. thay didn't explain to us about artificial horizont tho.
Karletto555 2 years ago
thank you
judgementIV 2 years ago
ese tipo esta loko
rafaelrdzc 2 years ago
Finally, a science video with facts, not soon to be 'corrected' theory. ;) Thanks.
socomcygnusx1 2 years ago 2
Good explanation with a few down to earth tips that everyone can follow
xxAdamLambertFanxx 2 years ago 2
Thanks.
dcolarusso 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
we need you in class!
pikapikarchu 2 years ago
for me it was hard as i need a real compass to know how accurate i was it seemed a little off for me downunder
geezablade 2 years ago
Keep in mind the following: (1) If you're in the Southern Hemisphere, halfway between the hour-hand and "noon" is due north; (2) we're talking about true north, not magnetic north; and (3) both standardized time zones daylight savings introduce error as this method was devised to work with local time. Also, there's some error introduced around sunrise and sunset due to the angles involved.
dcolarusso 2 years ago
i can tell my teacher about this... we are learning about how to fine latitude with a homemade thingymajigger we made...
ghostrider433 2 years ago
Great. I hope it's helpful.
dcolarusso 2 years ago
i still don't get it..
aznmaplemaster 2 years ago
well i dont know if i really can help but heres i learned it.
1) remember sun rises east and sets west
2) On your watch, point the hour hand at the sun and half way between the hour hand and 12 is South.
thelosthikers 2 years ago
Hi i think what he was trying to say is that when you are in the north hemisphere then the halfway between your hour hand (pointing to the sun) and the noon (which does not always have to be 12) is south. your noon will always create 90 degree angle with your hour hand which is pointing the sun. since our 12-hour watch rotate twice as fast as the sun rotation in one day.
fakhribohang 2 years ago
yeah because everyone carries that shit on them
819726 2 years ago
very intersting...they should teach this is in public schools.
Emb21 2 years ago 20
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justjev 2 years ago
I used to.
dcolarusso 2 years ago
@Emb21 no that would go against our government's policy of teaching useful things.
Dudeuseyourbrain 1 year ago
@Emb21 exactly but instead, we are more worried about how many apples Sarah has more than Jim..very frivolous.
polozine 3 months ago
Posting to say, this was amazing!
slmskrpk 2 years ago
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
dcolarusso 2 years ago
hey this is terrific information but yeah... if i needed to look up declination on the web I'd just look up the longitude and latitude and be done with it.
Dontbustthecrust 2 years ago
Fair enough. When I need to do complex calculations I usually consult a calculator and I'm always using my GPS. They're faster and more accurate, but sometimes it's nice to go old school. ;)
dcolarusso 2 years ago
oh no I know what you mean. I go old school sometimes too. It gives you the same sort feeling of accomplishment as building a stupidly complex rube gold-berg machine.
Dontbustthecrust 2 years ago
I don't think this would be very useful though. I'm trying to come up with a situation in which this could help but it isn't easy. It's down to two.
--You time travel to an empty sailing ship with instruments and charts on board.
--You are stranded with no recolection of your position during a rally race accident.
boredman443 2 years ago
No.. When you're really aware of this, you can easy orient yourself. Even without a watch..
abdula31 2 years ago
You determine your coordinates with this method. That really won't help you unless you have charts to help.
boredman443 2 years ago
i don't mean the coordinates directly, and you don't need charts. This is not only to determine coordinates.
abdula31 2 years ago
I still often use the Sun to orient myself to the cardinal directions which is helpful when driving. On a long road trip in the absence of clear signage, I once pointed out we were heading the wrong way because the Sun was on the wrong side of the car. Admittedly, however, the latitude was not important. ;)
dcolarusso 2 years ago
Yeah. I always use the sun for time.
boredman443 2 years ago
Haha, yes thanks for the explanation. Well all i can say is that this information is valuable as much as GPS, so i'm glad you posted it.
abdula31 2 years ago
and david do u live in somerville?
alphabees 2 years ago
hey david, that is so cool and i made 1 similar to it but uses real protracter and ruler
alphabees 2 years ago
Well yes it's pretty much information :)
abdula31 3 years ago
Very nice, but please don't spin the big earth around the small sun, it makes me dizzy.
abdula31 3 years ago
This is cool stuff, and actually telles everything you need to know, therefore my question may seem redundant, but could you post a video where you actually demontrate the usage of these homemade devices to do landnavigation?
Best regards
silk
blacksilkblacksilk 3 years ago
you mean the sextant? Sailors tend to lose some sight because of those at daylight.
abdula31 3 years ago
mr c, you're cool! and you make cool videos and teach cool classes because you're cool.
headintheclouds109 3 years ago
Thanks for the sentiment. There's not an old student hiding behind that user name is there?
dcolarusso 3 years ago
I thank you so much for responding I'd like to pose a question for you and that is do all the planets revolve around the sun in the same speed? I believe they do (which is 1037 1/3mph ; what do you think?
coantte 3 years ago
They do not. How fast a planet orbits depends on how far away it is from the Sun. Google "Kepler's laws of planetary motion" and check out his third law.
dcolarusso 3 years ago
I believe thats a lie to keep people off track so it becomes immpossible for them to tap into other energy sources and ways to navigate across the universe. if you don't believe in ufo's check out the 'disclosure project'
coantte 3 years ago
is the north your talking about true north or magnetic north? ; excellent video by the way!
coantte 3 years ago
true north, and thanks for the kind words.
dcolarusso 3 years ago
Very good video Thanks
jamesbensley1 3 years ago
these videos are awesome. never seen them before lol.
langerCAN 3 years ago
Ah, that was awesome!
harshm2u 3 years ago
Thank you kindly.
dcolarusso 3 years ago
These are great videos. This is what youtube is for.
Prophestus 3 years ago 20
Thanks, since leaving the classroom, this has been the primary outlet for feeding my teaching habit. I'm hoping to produce something new in early January. So stay tuned.
dcolarusso 3 years ago
might sound corny but i think its important to know little things like this.
Sprunk12 3 years ago 2
No argument from me.
dcolarusso 3 years ago
damn this Digital Watches!!! Grrr
PvtPorky 3 years ago
i rather buy a GPS :) but great explanation prof ;)
zipalho 3 years ago
It was clear enough but presented too quickly.
TroyJone 3 years ago
i think too much material was packed in this video for this duration.. and we need example like for the lattitude/longtitude
madmax797 3 years ago
you go in the cage, cage goes in the water, sharks in the water
panterastang 3 years ago
Some of this stuff are too advanced :(
techdudezz 3 years ago
May I ask what wasn't clear?
dcolarusso 3 years ago
I thought it was pretty danged professional. From the perspective of a person growing up in the 70's-80's and watching "professional" instructional videos at school...you are light-years ahead.
Don't take that as a dig.
I am saying...that I really actually enjoyed YOUR video, which has more editorial impact that a dry interpretation of production quality, etc.
Disagree? Check out the movie "Prime" which was filmed for a RIDICULOUSLY low budget and is a GREAT movie.
Regards...
Prometheus1st 3 years ago
I liked it, i thought your explanation was really clear! thanks, I'm an Astronomy buff my self!
GalaxyCom 3 years ago
excellent, just need to watch it a few more times to never get lost again...
nosiriwonthaveapples 3 years ago
This was a great video.
Wiegieboard 3 years ago
wow thats cool!
roboman79 3 years ago
i love it, i'll never get lost again thx!
2Punk2Wipe 3 years ago
Working on this, it has become clear to me that I really need a digital camera. My built-in iSight is great, but really limiting. I'm rather disappointed with its effect on production quality. I also really need a good mic. :(
Anywho, this was an entry in a contest. If I had more time I would have borrowed some nice gear, and I would have included some music as well. I have to admit, however, I'm quite happy that I hit the 5 min limit dead on, and it's not bad for a two-day turn around.
dcolarusso 3 years ago