I can't believe all the "intellectual" arguments over this movie. It's like seeing two piles of dogcrap on the ground and saying, "Hmm. I believe that this pile with the chewed-up diaper has a much greater value than the white pile that has been here a while and has only pine nuts in it. Hmm."
how is this an exploitation film? Considering the stuff I've seen becuase of the Cinema Snob (ie Caligula, Salo, Cannibal Holocaust etc.) this is pretty tame.
- it was a lot easier to shock people in 1956. Extreme violence didn't get started until Blood Feast in '64 and you couldn't show nudity of any kind in this era unless it was for "educational" purposes. I'm sure your cinema snob guy knows about the pre-70's exploitation stuff too, but probably just realizes it won't shock anyone whose already seen real animals being tortured and killed and people being forced to eat shit.
Why do they her parents keep refering to her as a child and worry about leaving her home alone? In the first couple minutes of the movie her mother said, 'the ladies keep saying how I am too young and pretty to have an 18 year old daughter."
I compare the girl in this to the boy in I Accuse My Parents and while Jimmy is kind of sympathetic (and stupid), this girl just comes off as whiny and stupid and conniving. Jimmy had parents who apparently genuinely neglected him and were at least close to being alcoholics. The girl in this has parents who are busy, yes, but a mother who made more than one attempt to spend time with her, and a father who made time to speak with her at work. Spoiled and whiny.
Was there really that much of a juvenile delinquency problem in the 50's, or did the makers of all these MST-lampooned films just think there should be, and "normal" people should be terrified?
@s1lverfalcon This is archetypal Cold War era scare tactics, with a veneer of "entertainment." Draw people in with a "nice story" and "attractive women," and hope that the morality lesson will stick. Of course, in the '50s, you couldn't so much as buy milk without hearing about the "Red Menace," or some other paranoid delusion. Still, the "morality tale" could have just been thrown in to justify a film about anything other than "American virtue." Best not to read too deep into Woods' stories.
@Phobos1313 If you knew anything about what Communism did to Russia, China, and other conquered countries, you would never say anything like that again.
Holy crap people making comments are taking the rape scene IN AN ED WOOD FILM far too serious. Uhhg. I guess I just like dark humor. You squares bug me, YOU REALLY BUG ME!
I just realized something about the 'viciously attacked' newspaper. Now most likely due to film censorship they wouldn't have said 'raped' but I think even back then, and still now, there's a belief that a man can't be raped by a woman. I wouldn't be surprised if the character told the police he was just attacked instead of raped due to sheer shame. Okay I might be putting too much thought into an Ed Wood film. Funny episode is funny.
@Irrelevant402 You're not putting too much thought into it; that's exactly what happened (and the MST3K folks' jokes confirm that, sadly, the attitude still exists). Ed Wood seems to have made an attempt to portray the real trauma of such an attack (it's as traumatic for guys as it is for women). Honestly, the MST3K jokes made me very uncomfortable.
@zenfrodo Seriously? Ed Wood wasn't trying to make any great "point" - this whole movie is just shock porn designed to appeal to the paranoid '50s mindset. Look at any of this movie - was any part of it designed with the care indicative of an artistic or genuine vision? No - that's why it's so incredibly awful.
I suggest you lighten the fuck up. Just because an issue is serious doesn't mean we can't joke about it. The MST3K guys were just voicing the reaction Wood was trying to elicit.
@Irrelevant402 Way too much thought. Wood wasn't trying to make a point about gender roles and rape - he was trying to titillate his audience. That's why the "attackers" in the scene are all young, attractive females, and the "victim" shows no real signs of distress before the attack, and isn't shown at all afterwards. Wood was just trying to be shocking while simultaneously providing a fantasy for male audience members. If he was addressing male rape, he'd have focussed on the aftereffects.
So, being a newspaperman and some kind of chairwoman/housewife pays enough that this family can give their daughter blank checks and keep getting her a new car every single year?
@uruseiranma I sometimes get the feeling that Ed Wood was some kind of wonderful alien from outer space, possibly a planet were men are free to wear as much angora as they want to. The movies were his nostalgic tributes to that fluffly, pink paradise that he's forever lost. Kinda sad, really.
"Say, Paula, you kinda match the description of one of the girls in that criminal gang that robbed that young couple, isn't that funny? It's fortunate that the gang members were completely unmasked and left their victims alive, eh?"
That's some cup of coffee Pops has got. Without refilling it, he's managed to up-end the cup several times. He practically covers his face with the cup, yet no coffee comes spilling out the sides.
Well, if you don't like him, we always have the Oily Leo or Calgon, the most amused villainn ever. Or the Chicken Overlord Krankor, who is your favorite?
The father is one thing (maybe), but how in the world is he mother a negligent parent?
The Mamie Van Doren joke makes you realize the one thing missing from this movie. Mamie would definitely fill out the cast of this one.
Oppeldeldoc1 1 week ago
750 between the 4 of us and we did like 10 robberies!!! Buuuulchit!
Dablkwid0w2008 1 month ago
"POTTY"!?
bodhisattva71 1 month ago
dad loves working on his manifesto
ottoandgeorge 2 months ago
Big plans for government. Why has the lord chosen me you might ask. lol the subtle jokes make this more enjoyable.
MrAlcazar 2 months ago
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I can't believe all the "intellectual" arguments over this movie. It's like seeing two piles of dogcrap on the ground and saying, "Hmm. I believe that this pile with the chewed-up diaper has a much greater value than the white pile that has been here a while and has only pine nuts in it. Hmm."
Yapshire 2 months ago
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Yapshire 2 months ago
"Here comes Uncle Mame."
DickieAnginson 3 months ago
But I wanna rob Clanton's!
ChaoticYak 3 months ago
"What would you like this morning?" "A blank cheque."
Applemask 5 months ago
"Hector Berlioz?" LOL I love how they keep trying to guess the portrait...
darkprose 6 months ago
We hear and obey!
ChaoticYak 6 months ago
haha. "sal mineo entertains at home."
TheSmutchypuss 6 months ago 2
how is this an exploitation film? Considering the stuff I've seen becuase of the Cinema Snob (ie Caligula, Salo, Cannibal Holocaust etc.) this is pretty tame.
TheLoverboyz901 8 months ago
@TheLoverboyz901
- it was a lot easier to shock people in 1956. Extreme violence didn't get started until Blood Feast in '64 and you couldn't show nudity of any kind in this era unless it was for "educational" purposes. I'm sure your cinema snob guy knows about the pre-70's exploitation stuff too, but probably just realizes it won't shock anyone whose already seen real animals being tortured and killed and people being forced to eat shit.
nickmooselives 5 months ago
@nickmooselives oh yeah. duh
TheLoverboyz901 5 months ago
"PAJAMA PARTY? Why can't you just have cocaine fuelled orgies like the other girls?"
padddy5 8 months ago
@padddy5 their not french
84MadHatter 8 months ago
"C'mon you write Cappy Dick for god sake!"
RetroToledo 8 months ago
"Sometimes there isn't much difference." HAHAHAHAHAHA.
"Big plans for the government. Why the Lord has chosen me you might ask..."
Elcoyotenegro 8 months ago
"Sometimes there isn't much difference." HAHAHAHAHAHA
Elcoyotenegro 8 months ago
6:15 - "btw, we're all pregnant from that guy we attacked"
Nixel85 9 months ago 2
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"goodness i love squirrt!" ajjajhahahhaha
1ciccone 9 months ago
"goodness i love squirt!" ajjajhahahhaha
1ciccone 9 months ago
Did Paula ever win any essay contests?
sleepyhollow783 9 months ago
PEOPLE DON'T TALK LIKE THIS!
LliamSantino 10 months ago
Why do they her parents keep refering to her as a child and worry about leaving her home alone? In the first couple minutes of the movie her mother said, 'the ladies keep saying how I am too young and pretty to have an 18 year old daughter."
Chillazilla2 10 months ago
Of course they can't solve the crimes - they don't have KLINE on the case!
amcint01 11 months ago 3
I compare the girl in this to the boy in I Accuse My Parents and while Jimmy is kind of sympathetic (and stupid), this girl just comes off as whiny and stupid and conniving. Jimmy had parents who apparently genuinely neglected him and were at least close to being alcoholics. The girl in this has parents who are busy, yes, but a mother who made more than one attempt to spend time with her, and a father who made time to speak with her at work. Spoiled and whiny.
And yes, I'm overanalyzing. :)
ChaoticYak 11 months ago 4
8:54
Oooooooohhhhhh...
she's a kleptomaniac bitch.
Yes, life is so hard with your silver spoon lifestyle and parents with hearts of gold. "You know what get's me going? Rape, assault, and robbery."
ninjawraith17 1 year ago
Was there really that much of a juvenile delinquency problem in the 50's, or did the makers of all these MST-lampooned films just think there should be, and "normal" people should be terrified?
s1lverfalcon 1 year ago
@s1lverfalcon This is archetypal Cold War era scare tactics, with a veneer of "entertainment." Draw people in with a "nice story" and "attractive women," and hope that the morality lesson will stick. Of course, in the '50s, you couldn't so much as buy milk without hearing about the "Red Menace," or some other paranoid delusion. Still, the "morality tale" could have just been thrown in to justify a film about anything other than "American virtue." Best not to read too deep into Woods' stories.
Phobos1313 1 year ago
@Phobos1313 If you knew anything about what Communism did to Russia, China, and other conquered countries, you would never say anything like that again.
NerdilyDone 9 months ago
So the moral of the story is...never leave your children alone, or else they'll turn into violent criminals while you aren't looking?
rasberrylatte52 1 year ago 2
The film that denounces smut by showing smut over and over.
clshannon21 1 year ago 4
Holy crap people making comments are taking the rape scene IN AN ED WOOD FILM far too serious. Uhhg. I guess I just like dark humor. You squares bug me, YOU REALLY BUG ME!
einomega 1 year ago 5
why do movies/shows around this time period always seem like cheezy comarcials
Chanjar 1 year ago
Who could possibly dislike this!?!
KingGeorge1024 1 year ago
So when this movie was made, girls went to highschool in their late 20's, early 30's.
lainonthewired 1 year ago
I just realized something about the 'viciously attacked' newspaper. Now most likely due to film censorship they wouldn't have said 'raped' but I think even back then, and still now, there's a belief that a man can't be raped by a woman. I wouldn't be surprised if the character told the police he was just attacked instead of raped due to sheer shame. Okay I might be putting too much thought into an Ed Wood film. Funny episode is funny.
Irrelevant402 1 year ago 7
@Irrelevant402 You're not putting too much thought into it; that's exactly what happened (and the MST3K folks' jokes confirm that, sadly, the attitude still exists). Ed Wood seems to have made an attempt to portray the real trauma of such an attack (it's as traumatic for guys as it is for women). Honestly, the MST3K jokes made me very uncomfortable.
zenfrodo 1 year ago
@zenfrodo Seriously? Ed Wood wasn't trying to make any great "point" - this whole movie is just shock porn designed to appeal to the paranoid '50s mindset. Look at any of this movie - was any part of it designed with the care indicative of an artistic or genuine vision? No - that's why it's so incredibly awful.
I suggest you lighten the fuck up. Just because an issue is serious doesn't mean we can't joke about it. The MST3K guys were just voicing the reaction Wood was trying to elicit.
guysmiley00 1 year ago 6
@guysmiley00 Obvious troll is obvious.
zenfrodo 1 year ago
@Irrelevant402 Way too much thought. Wood wasn't trying to make a point about gender roles and rape - he was trying to titillate his audience. That's why the "attackers" in the scene are all young, attractive females, and the "victim" shows no real signs of distress before the attack, and isn't shown at all afterwards. Wood was just trying to be shocking while simultaneously providing a fantasy for male audience members. If he was addressing male rape, he'd have focussed on the aftereffects.
guysmiley00 1 year ago 4
-Here comes "Uncle" Mame!
She does emanate a rather masculine aura. lol
watda74 1 year ago 4
LOOK LIKE A MAN AND TALK LIKE A hello~~
oscarX 1 year ago
I wonder if they'll all get put into Girls Town, from an earlier MST3K...
Dulcimerist 1 year ago 3
So, being a newspaperman and some kind of chairwoman/housewife pays enough that this family can give their daughter blank checks and keep getting her a new car every single year?
Paging Mr Wood- what universe do you live in?
uruseiranma 1 year ago
@uruseiranma I sometimes get the feeling that Ed Wood was some kind of wonderful alien from outer space, possibly a planet were men are free to wear as much angora as they want to. The movies were his nostalgic tributes to that fluffly, pink paradise that he's forever lost. Kinda sad, really.
eviljoel 1 year ago 5
"Running rampage"? That doesn't even make sense.
textthing 1 year ago
"Say, Paula, you kinda match the description of one of the girls in that criminal gang that robbed that young couple, isn't that funny? It's fortunate that the gang members were completely unmasked and left their victims alive, eh?"
KaterzTheMSTie 1 year ago 8
lmao 7:53 , she does look like harpo marx
TheDeadhead76 1 year ago 2
We like milk and it shows!
ChaoticYak 1 year ago 3
"suffocating ice queen"-lol!!!
pretorious700 1 year ago
"whats this rag! oh..."
Theburn77 1 year ago
gotta love the pointy bras of yesteryear
devospud 1 year ago 9
"I could have sworn I had a daughter."
nostromo38 1 year ago 4
0:38 XD
TheJoeShow08 2 years ago
Which parents are worse, these two stiffs or the jerks in "I Accuse My Parents"?
pretorious700 2 years ago
The Jerks in "I Accuse My Parents" NO ARGUMENT!
CaptEoNinja83 1 year ago
That's some cup of coffee Pops has got. Without refilling it, he's managed to up-end the cup several times. He practically covers his face with the cup, yet no coffee comes spilling out the sides.
beggar1015 2 years ago 14
@beggar1015 hahaha...I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't hot coffee kinda melt your skin when you're swimming in it like he was?
jaded0724 2 years ago 3
@beggar1015 Knowing Wood, the budget was probably so low they couldn't even afford actual coffee.
eviljoel 1 year ago
This film almost screams anti-feminism and can make womens' libs advocates into misogynists.
Did I phrase that well enough? lol
SeoulMan 2 years ago 3
As soon as Paula gave her little 'nobody puts one over on me' bit, I was hoping their drinks were drugged.
rcevey2 2 years ago 2
Is it just me, or does almost all of the Ed Wood movies have cars you could stand up in...
FurretSpectrum 2 years ago 4
what the hell is the message behind this movie dont leave your 18 year old unattended????? back then 18 was the adult age none of this 21 year old BS
Makeshiftdemon 2 years ago
I love Mike and the Bots trying to figure out who the picture is of on the office wall XD
"Is it Hamilton?"
joemomma46 2 years ago 7
"You're a growing girl." What?? How much growing does she have to do, at age 30??
ElveeKaye 2 years ago 55
"Potty?!"
"Yup, I'm really off to the newspaper! I'm certainly not going to the stop where they attacked that fellow."
"Oh BTW, have they built any 7-11s around here?"
"BTW, we're all pregnant from the guy we attacked."
"Oh phooey! It says No Solicitation! Well, back in the car."
"Did anybody remember the potato salad?"
"So is this that Melrose Place everybody been talking about?"
ManaAdvent 2 years ago 4
to be honest I kinda like this movie. I know it's bad, but still somewhat entertaining.
BarbedBiohazard 2 years ago 7
If there's going to be a Legion of Doom of Mst3k villans I definately think that The Fatman, all powerful chairman of Novacorp should be included.
fisticuffsjr21 2 years ago 37
TO WENDY'S!
KaterzTheMSTie 2 years ago 4
Hey, someone turn off the fat rotating guy!"
didgeboy287 2 years ago 3
@fisticuffsjr21 "FINGLE, YOU ARE MINE! ...WITH BEARNAISE SAUCE!"
jmn327 1 year ago
@fisticuffsjr21 they should have J.K (Bob Evil) CEO of Gencorp as his number 2.
bjago01 9 months ago
"See you when I can."
Is that vague enough for ya?
DMCdawg 2 years ago 9
7:51 "Isn't that Harpo?" Great call.
glasfurd31 2 years ago
"By the way, we're all pregnant from the guy we attacked."
seanThree16 2 years ago 12
3:22 - It sounds like "...the girls that did this shit?"
buffypython 2 years ago 6
omg it does!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha
Ututwhynot 2 years ago
"did this yet?" ...but yea, it does sound like that
Jaikith 2 years ago
@buffypython - and "Ow, my pits hurt." - 5:16 - sounds a bit dodgy as well.
Gjeorje 11 months ago
"I could've sworn I had a daughter."
modchic720 2 years ago 11
Happy Birthday! Now get out. LOLOL..So cold, so cruel...so funny!!
sprinkleshouse 2 years ago 4
This is the stupidest dad..ever! :)
Mandi7882 2 years ago 5
So this is the Melrose Place everyone's been talking about?
My answer would have to be a yes.
DrGregoryHouseIT 2 years ago
KICKS, baby.
Gomess 2 years ago 7
Oh my god: "What in the world is a pajama party?"
JackKlompus13 2 years ago 7
'WE HEAR AND OBEY.'
'Well I don't know who you are or why you're here but come on in!'
USSJaneway 2 years ago
This movie would have been WAY better if their fence/boss/whatever she is at 7:30+ had turned out to be a Communist agent!
GoblinXXX 2 years ago
Would rather have as this movie villain the good old Bob Evil, from Time Chasers, he was evil for the sake of being evil.
Herr12 2 years ago
With his evil corporate headquarters on the stairs in a mall or library?
GoblinXXX 2 years ago
Well, if you don't like him, we always have the Oily Leo or Calgon, the most amused villainn ever. Or the Chicken Overlord Krankor, who is your favorite?
Herr12 2 years ago 4
Krankor and the Master are MST's best villains, IMO.
GoblinXXX 2 years ago 5
yOU fOrGoT tO mEnTIoN tORgO.
SgtHydra 2 years ago 5
Torgo comes bundled with the Master package. That and his hell-beast are why he's cool.
GoblinXXX 2 years ago 3
I think Torgo would split off from the Master and join Ortega.
didgeboy287 2 years ago
Ortega would never leave the evil gypsy fortune teller with the sheep tick on her face, though. (You feelthy PEEG!)
GoblinXXX 2 years ago 6
3:21 I know it's not what she says, but it so almost sound like, "have they got a line on the girls who did this shit?"
SoundsmithOne 2 years ago 6