Jesus did not do any miracles until he was anointed by the Holy Spirit- John 2vs11. None of these so-called lost books were authoritated by a prophet &show too much free use of imagination-giving rise to fiction stories; &imitates the genuine portions of Scripture. Most of these books were written in the dark ages- the last messenger Christ was foretold (Malachi 3v1) ;the books testify of the 4 gospels. Yet, the gospels were counted true by Christians, Jews, heretics and heathen!
@amvfan82 I had read that there was a first wife for Adam, named Lilith. But the story goes that she didn't like Adam or want anything to do with him. So God created Eve. I don't know how true that story is. Written by Raziel, which is thought to be one of the Fallen Angels. I don't put much stock in it. But it is online, and interesting to read.
I have to admit this issue has been a debated for years that is mostly opinion based.. The only thing that we have to go on is that they say everything the wrote was inspired by God. We see today how so many ministers that claim God told them to do something and find out the minister is not who he claim to be. But if these minister were alive 1000s of years ago they would get away with some of the things they do today and get caught. Just thinking out loud.
Its interesting how people that wrote something 1000s of years ago in muslin and christian faiths. These two religions cause a lot of heated debate and sometimes war.. I have to agree without the people that wrote it 1000s of years around to explain it to you how can we be for sure that either one is 100% correct ? What if both texts were used to control and rob people of there true power? I know for myself today if a group of people claim God told them to write new bible they would hate mail.
HAHAHAHAHA but in the bible it says marrys comes from the rich king family both father and mother HAAHAHAHAHA but they came from Nineveh which where edan was created
HAHAHAHA how about everything is wrong, the people who wrote the text are the only ones that can explain it, if you have 10000;s of people read a story only 1 or 2 people will see that same views and ways as the person who wrote it. HAHAHAHAHA so its all lost man its all gone down the drain all u have left are the stories nothing more
More likely none of this stuff happened the way it's believed. A much more plain and down to earth thing happened. Something like Jesus became enlightened to the idea of helping others before yourself and taught it to the people. That's an important story, not the magical mystical, and most likely made up stuff.
Matthew 1:28(she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.) Luke 1:35(The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:) Can't you see that you are giving the atheist, the skeptic, the agnostic a stick to beat you with? They may well ask "How did the Holy Ghost come upon Mary?" "How did the Highest overshadow her? The Quranic narrative is How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?
The biblical version is correct The ruach qodesh overcame mary when she has Yeshuah the messiah. the bible clearly states she was not touched by any man and that she was a virgin matthew 1:22 so out goes the koranic version which just reiterates what was already said
i know the bible doesnt mean that virgin was not mary but the language is distateful, very rude, read for you own i quoted above, unlike the quran which is pure and so authentic and dealign with respect with Mary.
The bible is clear it says Mary is a virgin, There is not a single distasteful word against mary and yet you are imaging words that are not even there. Tell me one word that is distateful? Your imagination and condition via Islam is making you think theres sexual connotations when in all honesty theres nothing
@BPhire 2:191 is about the first hajj were the pagans threatened to kill the Muslims. I does not apply to anything but that as well as 2:193. 2:16 say that fighting is good or bad and it is up to god to decide."Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not."
Mary chosen above the women of all nations, There is a chapter Mary which is chapter 19th in the Holy Quran in the Honor of mother of Jesus while there is no book named after Mary in the 73 books of Roman Catholics and 66 books of the Protestant, no such honor given to Mary can be found anywhere in the bible.
Books in the bible were named according to their authors. mary never wroite a book hence why she doesn't have a book in her name. The named book in the koran wasn't written by mary . So your claim is unfounded and pointless because theres several verses in the bible that laud Mary
Jesus called him mother WOMAN in john 2:4 the same word which he used for a prostitue in john 8:10, but the quran in chapter mary 19:32((He) hath make me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable )
I don't need to remind you 'woman' is not an insult it's a verb for female. Yeshua calling Mary Woman doesn't confer any insult onto her as you are trying to imply. What did you want him to call the woman a prostitute
The writings in the koran should be called a commentary on mary not a narrative because prophet Mohammed wasn't there was mary was alive. Giving titles posthomously is erroneous .Mary is honoured as the mother of Yeshua many times already
you rgith said Muhammad pbuh was not there but the true one God was, quran is the God's word revealed to Muhammad pbuh, unlike the bible who were written by synonymous hands, there are 114 chapters in the holy Quran, and chapter 19th is in honor of mother of Jesus Al-Imran 3:42(Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations."
So if the koran was God's word explain the glaring mistakes? The koran is inaccurate and has so many mistakes that it's hard to take serious. Nobody outside Islams takes a historically inacurate unprophesized book that teaches against the original bible. Accepting the koran would mean insulting God and all his over 40 prophets only to accept Mohammeds word
more than 5 mins as the video passes the man with glasses said, that the woman salomi pardon me stick her fingers in Mary's vagina to prove her virginity, what the rubbish things the christian world is coming to tell us, we muslim held in high respect mary the mother of jesus, quran tells us about the virginal concept of jesus so we dont need any gospel of james or any outside prove, stop these words of blasphemous.
if you question and go against Gods word the bible then you are destend to go to hell but please do not lead others to the pit lest you kill a mans flesh but also kill his soul
You must understand what the Holy Quran says before you make comments..Your statements leaves no doubt about your understanding is far below the average hate mongers on the net. However .. I was commenting on the Narators false assertions of the video posted. Joseph the Husband of Mary (peace be upon her) is NOT mentioned in anywhere in the Holy Quran .. that is the lie anyone can check. Is that clear to you now Sir?
So we have a narrator lieing verses a 1400 year old prophet lieing hmmm tell me what lie is more dangerous one from an unknown narrator or one from a deluded prophet with over 1 billion followers. Mohammed lied thats the end of it theres no excuse for calling moses the sister of mary.
please dont call the quran holy if you read is self indalgents of mohammad who tries to put himself (a man) above christ ans goes as far to call himself god
We read the beautifully written Quran many times and we could not understand why anyone would consider it holy, but just he opposite! God Bless Always
This Video narrator makes false assertion that the Holy Quran mentions Joseph, the husband of Mary the mother of Jesus (peace ,be upon them both).NO WHERE IN THE HOLY QURAN THE NAME OF JOSEPH OR HE BEING THE HUSBAND OF MARY (PEACE BE UPON HER)is mentioned. LIES ARE LIES PUTTING THEM ON THE YOUTUBE do not make them truth.
what about the lies MOhammed told like saying Mary is the sister of aaran and daughter of Amram. Nobody needs to put lies on youtube the koran already has those. If the koran can call moses the sister of mary then it's a book of deceit. The koran isn't actual fact it's the opinion of an illiterate warlord that knew nothing of previous scripture
the fact that Mary's mother was barren does not equal that she was born without sexual conception... Sarah was old & barren and so was Sampson't mother. The perpetual virginity of Mary is an attempt to diefy her rather than giving honor to the Messiah. It had Pagan background. If it is not explicitly stated as such, it should not be taught. Period. I have seen television programs with Catholic people giving Mary more praise (Guadalupe) than I have EVER seen them give 2 the 1 who died 4 their sin
it's interesting to know that there are actually books that was lost.What should we believe? all i know when they put the bible together they should have put it all and notand not some.Why did they do that?
IAMTHATIAM1962 you on a sugar rush?
samlucky16 5 days ago
THE VIRGIN STORY WAS ONE BIG FAT LIE, THAT'S WHY ALL THE DIFFERENT STORIES! JOSEPH IS CHRIST FATHER BY BLOOD, THE SEED OF JESSE!
IAMTHATIAM1962 9 months ago
Jesus did not do any miracles until he was anointed by the Holy Spirit- John 2vs11. None of these so-called lost books were authoritated by a prophet &show too much free use of imagination-giving rise to fiction stories; &imitates the genuine portions of Scripture. Most of these books were written in the dark ages- the last messenger Christ was foretold (Malachi 3v1) ;the books testify of the 4 gospels. Yet, the gospels were counted true by Christians, Jews, heretics and heathen!
not25yet 1 year ago
A question, did Adam had a first wife name Lucia? or something like that.
amvfan82 1 year ago
@amvfan82 I had read that there was a first wife for Adam, named Lilith. But the story goes that she didn't like Adam or want anything to do with him. So God created Eve. I don't know how true that story is. Written by Raziel, which is thought to be one of the Fallen Angels. I don't put much stock in it. But it is online, and interesting to read.
RudeAwakning 1 year ago
I have to admit this issue has been a debated for years that is mostly opinion based.. The only thing that we have to go on is that they say everything the wrote was inspired by God. We see today how so many ministers that claim God told them to do something and find out the minister is not who he claim to be. But if these minister were alive 1000s of years ago they would get away with some of the things they do today and get caught. Just thinking out loud.
grownman455 1 year ago
Its interesting how people that wrote something 1000s of years ago in muslin and christian faiths. These two religions cause a lot of heated debate and sometimes war.. I have to agree without the people that wrote it 1000s of years around to explain it to you how can we be for sure that either one is 100% correct ? What if both texts were used to control and rob people of there true power? I know for myself today if a group of people claim God told them to write new bible they would hate mail.
grownman455 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA but in the bible it says marrys comes from the rich king family both father and mother HAAHAHAHAHA but they came from Nineveh which where edan was created
UmakeMeSYK 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA how about everything is wrong, the people who wrote the text are the only ones that can explain it, if you have 10000;s of people read a story only 1 or 2 people will see that same views and ways as the person who wrote it. HAHAHAHAHA so its all lost man its all gone down the drain all u have left are the stories nothing more
UmakeMeSYK 1 year ago
Mary was Joseph's wife. Yet it is claimed that Mary remained a perpetual virgin. Are we to believe that Joseph never once had sex with his own wife?
sbrown314 2 years ago
Yes.
BPhire 1 year ago
More likely none of this stuff happened the way it's believed. A much more plain and down to earth thing happened. Something like Jesus became enlightened to the idea of helping others before yourself and taught it to the people. That's an important story, not the magical mystical, and most likely made up stuff.
tiuric77 2 years ago
Of course she was going to say that she was pure. It was girl on girl action. Hahaha!!!
polylingue 2 years ago
Hahaha!!! Of course you bag groceries. Hahaha!!!!
BPhire 1 year ago
i dont understand.... Mary appeared to one saint...and said she was the Immaculate Conception
JohnNikshMarcelo98 2 years ago
Matthew 1:28(she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.) Luke 1:35(The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:) Can't you see that you are giving the atheist, the skeptic, the agnostic a stick to beat you with? They may well ask "How did the Holy Ghost come upon Mary?" "How did the Highest overshadow her? The Quranic narrative is How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?
mujeeburehmannn 2 years ago
The biblical version is correct The ruach qodesh overcame mary when she has Yeshuah the messiah. the bible clearly states she was not touched by any man and that she was a virgin matthew 1:22 so out goes the koranic version which just reiterates what was already said
tuxi187 2 years ago
i know the bible doesnt mean that virgin was not mary but the language is distateful, very rude, read for you own i quoted above, unlike the quran which is pure and so authentic and dealign with respect with Mary.
mujeeburehmannn 2 years ago
The bible is clear it says Mary is a virgin, There is not a single distasteful word against mary and yet you are imaging words that are not even there. Tell me one word that is distateful? Your imagination and condition via Islam is making you think theres sexual connotations when in all honesty theres nothing
tuxi187 2 years ago
Right. The Quran. "Pure and so authentic"
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them
2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression
2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
Right. The Quran: Pure & Authentic.
BPhire 1 year ago
@BPhire 2:191 is about the first hajj were the pagans threatened to kill the Muslims. I does not apply to anything but that as well as 2:193. 2:16 say that fighting is good or bad and it is up to god to decide."Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not."
Bearlizard777 1 year ago
@mujeeburehmannn And yeah the Quaran also tells you to hit your women.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
Mary chosen above the women of all nations, There is a chapter Mary which is chapter 19th in the Holy Quran in the Honor of mother of Jesus while there is no book named after Mary in the 73 books of Roman Catholics and 66 books of the Protestant, no such honor given to Mary can be found anywhere in the bible.
mujeeburehmannn 2 years ago
Books in the bible were named according to their authors. mary never wroite a book hence why she doesn't have a book in her name. The named book in the koran wasn't written by mary . So your claim is unfounded and pointless because theres several verses in the bible that laud Mary
tuxi187 2 years ago
Jesus called him mother WOMAN in john 2:4 the same word which he used for a prostitue in john 8:10, but the quran in chapter mary 19:32((He) hath make me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable )
mujeeburehmannn 2 years ago
I don't need to remind you 'woman' is not an insult it's a verb for female. Yeshua calling Mary Woman doesn't confer any insult onto her as you are trying to imply. What did you want him to call the woman a prostitute
tuxi187 2 years ago
the matter of fact is that Jesus, used the same word for his mother and a prositute. WOMAN
mujeeburehmannn 2 years ago
@mujeeburehmannn How is 'woman' an insult? Please explain that?
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis women are due to be respected, but the language jesus used calling both his mother and a prostitute A WOMAN is an insult to woman
mujeeburehmannn 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis women are due to be respected but the way jesus calls his mother and a prostitute A WOMAN is an insult
mujeeburehmannn 1 year ago
@mujeeburehmannn Actually Jesus showed no disrespect, Not even to the prostitute, whom HE said was forgiven. The word woman was not disrespectful!
RudeAwakning 1 year ago
The writings in the koran should be called a commentary on mary not a narrative because prophet Mohammed wasn't there was mary was alive. Giving titles posthomously is erroneous .Mary is honoured as the mother of Yeshua many times already
tuxi187 2 years ago
you rgith said Muhammad pbuh was not there but the true one God was, quran is the God's word revealed to Muhammad pbuh, unlike the bible who were written by synonymous hands, there are 114 chapters in the holy Quran, and chapter 19th is in honor of mother of Jesus Al-Imran 3:42(Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations."
mujeeburehmannn 2 years ago
So if the koran was God's word explain the glaring mistakes? The koran is inaccurate and has so many mistakes that it's hard to take serious. Nobody outside Islams takes a historically inacurate unprophesized book that teaches against the original bible. Accepting the koran would mean insulting God and all his over 40 prophets only to accept Mohammeds word
tuxi187 2 years ago
more than 5 mins as the video passes the man with glasses said, that the woman salomi pardon me stick her fingers in Mary's vagina to prove her virginity, what the rubbish things the christian world is coming to tell us, we muslim held in high respect mary the mother of jesus, quran tells us about the virginal concept of jesus so we dont need any gospel of james or any outside prove, stop these words of blasphemous.
mujeeburehmannn 2 years ago
if you question and go against Gods word the bible then you are destend to go to hell but please do not lead others to the pit lest you kill a mans flesh but also kill his soul
benebeer 3 years ago
You must understand what the Holy Quran says before you make comments..Your statements leaves no doubt about your understanding is far below the average hate mongers on the net. However .. I was commenting on the Narators false assertions of the video posted. Joseph the Husband of Mary (peace be upon her) is NOT mentioned in anywhere in the Holy Quran .. that is the lie anyone can check. Is that clear to you now Sir?
akdelwar 3 years ago
So we have a narrator lieing verses a 1400 year old prophet lieing hmmm tell me what lie is more dangerous one from an unknown narrator or one from a deluded prophet with over 1 billion followers. Mohammed lied thats the end of it theres no excuse for calling moses the sister of mary.
tuxi187 3 years ago
please dont call the quran holy if you read is self indalgents of mohammad who tries to put himself (a man) above christ ans goes as far to call himself god
benebeer 3 years ago
Can you prove the Quran is holy? There is much evidence that the beautifully written Quran is anything but holy for many reasons! God Bless Always
marcusstarr2000 2 years ago
We read the beautifully written Quran many times and we could not understand why anyone would consider it holy, but just he opposite! God Bless Always
marcusstarr2000 2 years ago
This Video narrator makes false assertion that the Holy Quran mentions Joseph, the husband of Mary the mother of Jesus (peace ,be upon them both).NO WHERE IN THE HOLY QURAN THE NAME OF JOSEPH OR HE BEING THE HUSBAND OF MARY (PEACE BE UPON HER)is mentioned. LIES ARE LIES PUTTING THEM ON THE YOUTUBE do not make them truth.
akdelwar 3 years ago
what about the lies MOhammed told like saying Mary is the sister of aaran and daughter of Amram. Nobody needs to put lies on youtube the koran already has those. If the koran can call moses the sister of mary then it's a book of deceit. The koran isn't actual fact it's the opinion of an illiterate warlord that knew nothing of previous scripture
tuxi187 3 years ago
A great lecture to watch: "The Islam Catholic connection" by total Onslaught, you can find it under Google videos, TOtal Onslaught".
WONDAWOMAN 3 years ago
Thanks will check that
tuxi187 3 years ago
the fact that Mary's mother was barren does not equal that she was born without sexual conception... Sarah was old & barren and so was Sampson't mother. The perpetual virginity of Mary is an attempt to diefy her rather than giving honor to the Messiah. It had Pagan background. If it is not explicitly stated as such, it should not be taught. Period. I have seen television programs with Catholic people giving Mary more praise (Guadalupe) than I have EVER seen them give 2 the 1 who died 4 their sin
WONDAWOMAN 3 years ago
it's interesting to know that there are actually books that was lost.What should we believe? all i know when they put the bible together they should have put it all and notand not some.Why did they do that?
sexycumhere3 3 years ago
Excellent Post!
scwomanchangeling 4 years ago
there is still a lot we dont know and the church rejected to fit religion at its own intersest
peratikos 4 years ago 6
very interesting
bassjoew 4 years ago