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  • All real Special Forces troops. Not Third World countries troops to protect idiot tirans or to opress their own people. Great video.

  • foken little stupid prick, I asked you again a question ,where the hell did you suck such lies,you are such pathologic liar.Cuban never had more than 30 000 troops in Angola at once time.Russian only sent some military specialist.There was never ever in the history of this world,east Germans troops in the Angolan soil. stop you crudw lies fokken racist,ignorance is dangerous,unfortunate,there no pills to cure you stupidy.

  • @Katyusha75 what a twit.... castro himself admitted he had close to 60000 in angola, russia had a lot of specilist in angola they've admitted that much and more than a few have spoken about the humiliating defeats SA inflicted on them. east german troops might not have been in angola but many ANC and swapo memebers were sent to east germany for training.... I suggest you get a clue before speaking about things you know nothing about... you right about the pills, pity since you need them!

  • Selous Scouts are the greatest special forces unit ever without any doubt. The Rhodesia army were the best counter terroist army that has ever walked this planet and if the UK had listened to Ian Smith they would still be on the UK's side and cleaned up long ago in Afganistan. Not just the Selous Scouts but the Rhodesain Light Infantry (best para regiment ever), Rhodesian African Rifles and Rhodesia Regiment too.

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    then how did they lose Rhodesia

  • Alamo Scouts never lost a man, in 80 operations...

  • Z FORCE WAS NUMBER 1 SAS 2ND ITS TRUE FACTS

  • My old man gave some of the Selous Scouts their jump training..

  • cool song with this thx for sharing it

  • Well, in the interest of the topic of the video, I would like to learn more about the operations in central and south America myself. Nicaragua, Panaman, Columbia, Peru....etc. There were a lot fo operations conducted on a daily basis in the past 30 years especially against organized military units also with Warsaw Pact advisors that will never see the light of day. I know some guys that were involved but will not say ANYTHING about it due to the high level of secrecy.

  • Yeah i have read stuff on the SAS/SBS working on the Swedish coastline to make them think the russians were wroking there , just so the swedes would play ball with NATO

  • Yeah man, it gets under my skin that the USMC Recon units get so little credit when I know some of their involvement and their level of professionalism. In reality I think of all US units they have done the best job of keeping it quiet. When the Marines refused to give up control to SOCOM they were basically erased from the pages of spec ops as a force. I guess it has worked well for keeping the hush hush, but it burns me that all these kids don't know anything about them.

  • Well in a way thats good thing , what with the SEAL's , Delta , SAS , SBS being to publicly known , MARSOC could and should be used more often if people aint heard of them , MARSOC are much like our Pathfinders or Brigade Recce

  • agreed. MARSOC is relatively new. Only what 2 years? Although they are comprised of Force Recon. I hate to give movies too much credit but movies like "Sniper" and "Clear and Present Danger" are very historically accurate portrayals of the type of daily operations the Div Recon and Force Recon have been involved in for the past 30+ years.

  • yeah but dont even get me started on movies , U-571 just makes me so fucking angry lol

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  • Yes because they are mercenaries , the British Army had a UN mandate and was under strict rules of engagement , any PMC unit isnt , as has been seen in Iraq by the Blackwater Company

  • Yes it was a shame we had to move out there. they should of left us in there do finish the job.

  • But it didnt need it , law and order was restored the the British are currently training there Army , so its all cool now , even teaching them some parade square drill lol

  • Yes only now it is done but it took you cunts years to do this we did this in a year, order, free election to this country not the British nor the UN gave freedom to them.

  • Took us years? The Nigerians etc were there for years , we dployed and the place was done and dusted , free elections were only possible once the British had moved in not some South African Mercanaries

  • haha... bite him with the snaggle tooth!!! hahahaha

  • No mate you are in denial if you think you guys did this in Siera Leon.

  • Well i cant see what denial seeing as i WAS THERE , was you there with Executive order , or something you read?

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  • You told me you had been in the UK for 10 yrs , if thats correct you couldnt of been in sierra Leone when the British were there as Op Palliser never started till 2000 , thats 10 yrs exactly

  • Yes I did tell you I was in the UK for 10 years, good observation! Do you think the Soera Leon crises was only going on for this period of of this time you think 2000?? Wake up sunny boy! It was in 1995!

  • Yes but your specifically mentioning the British and there lack of doing anything , Executive Order was in there in '95 , British was in there in 2000 , quite a difference wouldnt you agree?!

  • bubbles, strict rules of engagement?? Fact of the matter was that Executive Outcomes were abiding by the contract they signed with the actual government of Sierra Leone. So really, they were abiding by the rules of engagement as per their contract, which was basically all gloves off against the RUF.

    So what if the British were abiding by the UN Mandate?? As I can recall, it was the UN that was so freaking scared by the idea of South African mercenaries running around in West Africa (cont)

  • that they passed anti-mercenary edicts that put Executive Outcomes out of business just after they finished completely routing the RUF and pushing them back to their last stronghold. If anything had the UN not overreacted here, the War would of been concluded years before and many more lives would of been saved....

  • BTW Executive order was around in sierra Leone in 95 , UK never went till 2000 , so quoting the UK with UN forces is totally false

  • Blackwater also had ' rules of engagement' but that didnt stop them massacaring civillians , the Rules of Engagement we was under were the same we was under on the front gate of our barracks in the UK , ironically they also were the same as used in Ireland and Iraq , and the British wasnt part of the UN force that was the ECOMOG or whatever they were , we were there to restore order outside the UN but we still had a mandate

  • We are talking about Executive Outcomes NOT Black Water.....Two completely different outfits serving in two different times, and two different wars. It's like comparing apples with oranges....

    As for the rest, I really don't think that it was the case that the British restored order. What is this about warrior tribes being brought into the cities?? Y'all didn't create a modern government at all, rather what we know have are folks turning back to the old tribes and clans.....

  • All PMc's dont work by rules and reg's you'd realise that if you had been there or Iraq , the British did restore order after the country went tits up , try reading up on the history as of 2002 all fighting had ceased and all the old combatants had joined the Sierra leone Army , the West Side Boys had done so too after they got taking out by the Para's and SAS

  • bubbles, I'm not doubting that in Iraq and Afghanistan we've had incidences were PMCs disregarded rules and regulations. However, we are talking about Executive Outcomes in Sierra Leone. Don't you think it's a logical fallacy to use analogies here??

  • No i think they are all the same , they have little regard for anything , they have no rules set to them , they are nothing short of a hinderence , and caused us nothing but problems in Iraq

  • but bubbles, what is this news about the British in Basra playing off the Badr Brigade against and the Mahdi Army and vice versa while they were there?? will that not cause trouble in the future??

  • sury i was out there on my last tour in Iraq in 2005 before Afghan reared its ugly head , we engaged both the Badr Force ( not Brigade) and Madhi Army irespectivie of who they were , the British done a deal with Moqda al Sadr , as the bombings and civillian deathswas caused by them , do a deal , stop people sying simple. The minute they dropped there part of the bargain they almost got wiped out up in Cimic House in Al Amarah, these are FACTS i dont need a book to argue my points i use real life

  • Bubbles did you also know that we never sent in our standing army in to Angola? We also only had 3500 troops the hole duration of this 30 years. The Cubans had over 250000 troops there this is including the 6000 Russian troops with the East German with 4000 troops.

  • where the hell did you suck such lies,you are such pathologic liar.Cuban never had more than 30 000 troops in Angola at once time.Russian only sent some military specialist.There was never ever in the history of this world,east Germans troops in the Angolan soil. stop you crudw lies fokken racist.

  • @Katyusha75, Ignorance has your illusionary little puny brain in control hey!!! Stop acting like you have a day of deja vu constantly, its a sign of psychological problems and when you have theses symptoms, you know you need to stop being a troll, a internet Troll, find a suitable Dr to help you with your problem!! you will find reality is not as bad as you would find in your make believe little world Tulonga!! Wake up this's the new age and by your judgement it seems you the racist pointing!!

  • @BigBlackMamba101, Daar`s nie pille vir dom wees nie!!!you should find a best Dr to help you.You are mad,and think you are suffering from something I don`t know.

    

  • @BigBlackMamba101, Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.

    Sun Tzu

  • I still think it is a lot to do about nothing... I have a hard time putting the Recce and Selous units in the same category as the SAS, GSG, Seals, Marsoc, etc... operations against unorganized African militants hardly compares to the constant specops operations in South America for the past 50 years for example.

  • Bob McKenzie. A US veteran, this is the same man that was respected all over the world for his contribution to the wars he fought in. What happened to him? He got killed and cannibalised by a third world country UDF. This was him on patrol in Siera Leon with his unit. mmmmm No one could sort this out but one organisation ECO. Only had 200 troops which gave chase to UDF. British Military did nothing and the same with the UN. LOL

  • British had a UN mandate , and as such cant go around Freetown and Sierra Leone , all gung ho and rambo

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  • What you mean was that a reply to my comment or you saying hi? Not sure on your dodgy South Africans living in Edinburgh lol

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  • Good job i am from Surrey then and only based in Windsor then lol Kaffer lol

  • All this talk about South Africa... What campaign against a real enemy have they waged? Spear hurling zulus don't count... I mean a real opposing military.

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  • Americans? The Bay of Pigs was a bunch of Cuban nationals that were equipped by the US Army. They were in no stretch of the imagination a US military operation. They also only failed because on the 11th hour JFK decided not to go to war and did not support them.

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  • I honestly dont think the US would ever of gone to war over Cuba , would of brought the USSR in and to be honest and neutral the whole US hating of Cuba was the basing of Soviet Mislles , but the US did the same in Turkey , although i know the US secretly moved the missles out after the crisis.

  • Nah, Bubbles the US opposition has nothing at all to do with the missiles, that was much after. The US lost A LOT of businesses, civilians, investments, etc when Castro overthrew the gov't. Cuba was a long standing US ally going back to the Spanish-American war. Post WWII the US population was not ready for another conflict especially when Korea started up. Most americans would not have supported a war in Cuba.

  • Would of been interesting then on what NATO's stance would of been on it then , proably wouldof stayed in Europe in case the Warsaw Pact rolled though the Fulda Gap in Germany

  • meh... I seriously doubt that the Russians would have become involved. Simply out of logistics I doubt it. Cuba is 90 miles from Miami. Russia is what close to 4000 miles and across NATO controlled space and the US Navy dominated Atlantic? I seriously doubt it... JFK was more concerned about the US public reaction to involvement. If he were so scared about confronting the Soviets the missile crisis would not have ended the way it did.

  • Probably just a way of showing up the USSR , Cold War was ' fought ' in so many different ways but i just dont buy everyonesaying ' We were THIS close ' to nuclear war.

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  • Hmmmm, well first off... there is little to nothing written about Warsaw Pact operations in southern Africa. I doubt there was much more than small operations. Every source for the history of the Recce and Selous units mentions fighting against SWAPO and other 3rd world militias....but little to nothing about the Spetznaz or other Warsaw units. Most everything I read said the European units were advisors etc and not a full fledged Spetz unit.

  • Selous Scouts and the RLI were pretty hard core. Lots of Ex British Army.

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  • So there you go the Recces are one of the most Specialised units on the planet.

  • Oh suddenly it's working... So sad to not see mention of the Marine Raider Battalions. Carlson's Raiders ftw!! nice video bubbles.

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  • Sepcialist troops such as Storm Troopers were normal troops with specialist equipment , these troops on the vid are completely different , to say they are just random i feel is a little stupid of a comment , all these units had a specific part to play in the wars they fought in , in fact more so then others .

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  • Spetsnaz was a generic term there were many units under the same name , Ukraine was in the USSR and so was Belorussia so they wouldof been in the Red Army , and yougoslavia wasnt in the Warsaw Pact , it was aligned but not in the Warsaw Pact , it was removed from the communist brotherhood after Tito threatened to kill Stalin in 1948 , os i very much doubt they were in Africa fighting. Plus all well and good fighting avaried enemy but they all had the same tactics , dictated by Moscow

  • Nope, mate these are all facts.

  • Well some of your facts are wrong , Yugoslavia wasnt Warsaw pact alligned , Ukraine and Belorussia were SSr's inside the USSR so would of been in the Red Army and Spetsnaz are not a sinlge unit more a name for many units under the same name

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  • In the UK context, it is equivalent to students undergoing training equivalent in the duration and much of the skills training, to the full Special Air Service and Special Boat Service initial training cycles, and thereafter being posted to one of these units to receive a years further specialised training in that units particular fields of expertise.

  • WTF... it won't let me post on here.

  • Interesting video m8,maybe the Rhodesian light infantry could of sneaked its way into the Vid as well ,thier fireforce tatics were considered quite Revalutionary at the time

  • I considered them but i didnt want to flood one nation , i chose the Selous Scouts instead because although they were small in number they created 67% of deaths to there enemies the rest of the whole army did the 33% , not bad for a tiny unit!

  • Fairplay, the Selous scouts were legendary

  • What about the original frogmen? Italian 10th Mas they rode on mini torpedo like subs broke through heavy defended ports and sunk many british naval ships and merchant ships all frogmen are based on them, check them out

  • Not bad, check also "Cichociemni" (silent-darks).

  • They look pretty hardcore mate , i will admit i hadnt of heard of them till you told me :-)

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  • I didn think about including WW1 , but refrained from doing so

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  • I personally wouldnt consider Storm Troops as SF , they were not trained anymore then anyone else they were just equipped with weapons specifically for the job such as MP18 not the Kar 98K

  • nice vid

  • Niiice!! I've always been interested in the Special Forces that never grabbed the headlines or gets the mention....

  • Yeah such as units like Selous Scouts , Recce's , Alamo scouts , Alamo Scouts i'd never heard of

  • Awesome vid thanks.

    All the best

    Infokemp

  • Secret forces after all ;)

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