NH: KeeneGov seeks verbal harassment penalty

[samatention]

I dont understand you libertarians you dont want cities to waste money and yet this shit head wants the city to waste what $800 on a computer server, spend what 20 K on keying in all the reports to the system, hire computer security person to keep people from hacking the system and destroying it. Who is going to pay for all that.

[downlowfunk]

One could argue that mxing alcohol and guns aint safe. But the wild west wasnt won by slack jaws.

There is a video of Hunter S. Thompson driniing liquor and shooting his guns. The first time I saw this I was shocked. Oh well Thompson is american and if I he wanted to get loaded and shoot his guns on his private property than to hell with the safety critics. Just like me bitching about people that dont stop at stop signs. No one got hurt why should there be a fine?

[fczwartek]

You know, if Hunter Thompson wants to drop some acid and go visit Alice in Wonderland while shooting off his gun I really don't care. At least I don't care if he does on his own private property.

I just think people who want to carry guns in public should be held to a higher standard.

[downlowfunk]

3:15 NH tax dollars at work.

Amazing.  Thanks Ridley.

This footage is A+

[p00lman]

Rights can be taken away? Really? Like which ones?

[pandyne]

You don't believe in rights outside of law, remember?

You've shown your lack of logic. Now you show your lack of integrity by continuing to skirt the question.

[p00lman]

I have no idea what you're trolling about, bunky.

[pandyne]

Who's the troll? It couldn't be the guy who claims to live in South Korea and has no interest in individual liberty that posts illogical and contradictory statements on videos about liberty activists in New Hampshire. By the way you worship the state it seem more appropriate for you to move a few miles north.

[p00lman]

Why would I want to move to Connecticut?

[Anothercoilgun]

Lets all support Noland. And that quote at the end is absolutely Alpha.

[Anothercoilgun]

Rights cannot be taken away. Only infringed upon.

[oyate1960]

Hey no more mixing guns and alcohol you guys! If it's indeed true.

[12GaugeLosAngeles]

those ads are freaking pathetic.

[RidleyReport]

FreeeeeKeeeeeene dot commmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[neven01]

lol you go Dave!

[neven01]

I have been a martial artist for 30 years and a key perspective is no matter how fast or good at it you get you can not dodge bullets

I think open carry is the single most effective way to deter crime ask anyone whom open carries for proof of this, they have their stories I am sure, I do not drink or do drugs nor would I endorse the use of mind or mood altering substances, however as Ron Paul states it is not my business what you do to your body, USE YOUR RADICAL COMMON SENSE!

[fczwartek]

I'll tell you what is the single most effective way to deter crime (and it doesn't have anything to do with guns)-

Give people the opportunity to find meaningful and good paying jobs. Increase the quality of life for people, and decrease poverty.

If guns actually did deter crime America would be the safest place in the galaxy.

I'm sorry to tell you that for all our guns....America isn't even the safest place on the continent.

[neven01]

Your observation of crime is missing one important aspect, Very few people practice OPEN CARRY so you will have crime, my statement is that When one is openly carrying criminals do think! So It is Most effective for the Average American Citizen to open carry not merely to deter crime but remind those Gov't officials whom think its open season on us law abiding citizens, reminding them whom WE THE PEOPLE are and and that it is WE they actually work for, not visa versa, Reminding them of the oath!

[fczwartek]

I have to responses to your statement;

1- Crime rates have little correlation with gun laws.

2- The people in charge of the levers of gvmnt don't really care if you carry guns or not. They spend about 3/4 of a trillion dollars a year (of our money) on the military (and not all of it is spent on $900 hammers, or $4000 toilet seats.)

The people in charge have 10,000 nuclear bombs are their disposal. You really think they care about your gun?

[neven01]

IDK where your running with that so w/e you win buddy

I made a statement, You chose to highjack it, you win,

I would rather be happy then right any day.

Closing with this LOCAL Gov't Does notice when more and more peeps OC so this being Freestaters, OC locally and educate police on rights 'We the people' who they work for! OPEN CARRY! Practice you're 2nd!

as for you fc IDK why you chose to go off on the $900 hammer issue but w/e you win!

I will not reply further on a subject not related to vid.

[fczwartek]

I hijacked your statement like a Somali pirate.

I'm not against open carry. I'm not against people exercising their 2nd amendment rights.

But let's not pretend that guns are the magic answer to our problems (like most libertarians mistakenly believe.) That solution is too simple, too easy, and not based in reality but rather fantasy.

Is all I'm saying.

[neven01]

ROFLMAO

I get your point

Damn pirates they're everywhere!

[neven01]

Why would anyone pacify this p00 he seems to wish harm to anyone willing to question authority, stand up for their inalienable rights, and invoke the freedoms every human being is entitled, with or without badges we all deserve to be treated with respect, these freestaters are here because it is the one state left in the union they believe they can be heard, Honestly give them kudos for standing up for their rights! I do WTG! Freestaters give em what for!

As for this p00 guy, angry gov't worker?

[remember04191775]

I have to respectfully disagree with the drinking/open carrying position as stated by Ridley. Here in NH you can carry openly or concealed. I think that as long as you don't drink to excess, and have a holster with a good retention system, it is OK to have a couple drinks while open carrying. Some people do not want to ask the govt for CHLs (like me). I retain my right to be armed at all times, and having a couple of drinks shouldn't change that.

[anarchistassilum]

exactly im 6'3 and weigh over 250 lbs i can have a beer or 2 and not even notice an effect

[ConstrainedNoMore]

p00lman is just the biggest troll out there, his opinion should not be valued as anything, and frankly no one in their right mind take him seriously.

[p00lman]

Just because you disagree with some things doesn't mean the government doesn't represent the greater majority.

You can't please everyone all the time, and you shouldn't have to.

[p00lman]

Wow, what assholes, harrassing regular local government employees who have no chance of changing policy on their own.

If they change the law, it's only in reaction to how uncivilized, unruly, and downright rude these pricks have become.

Just because obnoxiousness is protected by the first amendment doesn't mean you should act that way as often as possible.

You have the freedom to shoot yourself in the face. That doesn't mean you should do it.

[watcher8o]

The poor "regular govt employees" are not meeting the standards of their positions, which opens them to lawsuits. It's not about changing policy, it's about not following through on things they are required to do.

You're such a govt worshiper. Little guy breaks a speeding limit and you want the book thrown at him, govt official doesn't relinquish records in the manner required of him and you absolve him. Double standard much? Of course you do, because you're an Authoritarian.

[p00lman]

Then these asshoels should pursue lawsuits, not act like petulant children and harrass people.

"govt official doesn't relinquish records in the manner required of him"

Show me where it's required.

[fczwartek]

Dave thanks for your appeal to libertarians not to drink and carry guns,

It is a mistake to carry a firearm and drink or smoke pot. Some of the public pot smokers have also been seen wearing guns and I hope you will also urge them not to carry firearms while high.

[funktroop3r]

You have to understand that those drugs effect (affect?) people differently, I've drank and carried before but I don't carry if I have more than the equivalent of 2 beers because that will only relax me. I've been high before but didn't carry but wouldn't have a problem doing it.

[fczwartek]

I don't see how you can conclude that being in a self induced altered state of mind (regardless of what drug got you there) while carrying a gun is a good idea.

It's really not a good idea. It is the height of irresponsibility, especially in a public place.

[funktroop3r]

I disagree you still have a right to defend yourself no matter what your on, besides you seem to think if you have but one drink you will have severely impaired judgment to the point you are a danger but that really isn't true.

[fczwartek]

Self defense is not limited to carrying a firearm. You still have a "right to defend yourself" whether you are carrying a loaded gun or not.

It's absolutely disrespectful to everyone around you when you drink while carrying. As I said before its the height of irresponsibility..

You think it would be ok for someone who is pissed drunk to carry a gun in public? Because without it "they cant defend themselves" right?

[funktroop3r]

So now your just putting words in my mouth, I never once said it was okay to carry a gun while "pissed drunk" but if you have one beer then I don't see the problem unless you have a strong reaction to just one drink. A lot of people today have been taught not to drink rather than drink responsibly.

[fczwartek]

Asking you a question is "putting words in your mouth"?

I agree that people are taught not to drink rather than to drink responsibly. But that's not the issue. Carrying a firearm responsible is the issue.

And I agree with Dave. If you're going out to have some drinks don't bring a gun with you. How is that not common sense and common courtesy?

[funktroop3r]

It seemed you asked the question in a rhetorical fashion to imply that I would support being pissed drunk and carrying. A small amount of Alcohol is not enough to make you drunk and wouldn't even put you near the illegal driving limit. To some extent I would agree with you though because I would not be seen drinking a beer and carrying in public because it would seem irresponsible and potentially dangerous because you can't know how much someone has had to drink.

[RidleyReport]

Thanks FC.... BTW I saw your criticism on the other vid....how would you have handled the Fed contractor differently?

[Weapon01]

-(A)-

[Bristecom]

In High School, an officer threatened to arrest me for verbal abuse when I asked him some questions. He got out a massive book and showed me a law in tiny print which basically said that they can arrest you for any reason they want. It was then that I lost all faith in the police and I came to the horrifying realization that the government answers to no-one.

"It is the responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin

[SSILENTNATION]

Wallace Nolan is a crook and a thief - it is well documented that he makes his living suing. Freestaters want to dissolve the system, yet have no problem utilizing it when it serves their needs/agenda. As usual - Wallace is HAPPY "make my day" when things go south,,,just like Sam gets happy when some cop can't recite the Constitution verbatim upon demand.  Unbelievable how much tolerance cops have for them - despite the verbal shit they get.

[watcher8o]

I can't speak for Freestaters, but it seems to me that they don't want to dissolve the system, rather reform it.  If you can't reform it from within, then what option do they have?

I think it's interesting that you have problems with Freestaters trying to implement a traditional ideology and force authorities to follow their own rules, but support authorities for breaking their own rules based on childish behavior of some activists.

[p00lman]

The whole problem is with freestaters using force and coercion. They're acting like a mob.

[watcher8o]

Force? Force would be twisting the bureaucrats arms, litterally. Coercion? Are they holding the children of the officials captive or threatening some harm to these officials?

No, they are pointing out that the officials are breaking the rules the government concocted which makes them liable to being sued.

A mob doesn't argue and reason, a mob just uses violence to achieve an ends. Talk about using meaningless labels...

[p00lman]

If they're liable to be sued, then SUE THEM.

Or are you people such pussies that you can only manage empty threats?

[pandyne]

I don't think anything you say here holds any weight. I still want you to tell me where human rights come from if they supersede law. Try to do it without argumentum ad numerum this time. As long as you keep posting, I'm going to keep asking.

[p00lman]

Some people are desperate for attention.

[pandyne]

I'm just desperate too figure out how you've managed to survive to adulthood while claiming 2+2=3 and 2+2=5 simultaneously and never concede that 2+2=4.

[p00lman]

Where did your penis go? Can I help you find it?

[mrethrift]

I'm afraid to ask what your interest in his penis is.

[pandyne]

Up Toshimitsu Deyama's ass helping him hit the high notes. I know you're jealous.

[p00lman]

Bwahaha, your reliance on wikipedia is as evident as your lack of penis.

[pandyne]

It's evident of your lack of logical by your resorting to childish attacks. Its not hard for me to do the same. Did you move to Korea because when you showed the American girls your penis and they laughed at you, you thought you should move to a country full of Asians where it would be larger in comparison? Its too bad that its still considered small over their. Im surprised you have time to reply to all my comments between sessions of masturbating to Mein Kampf.

[pandyne]

Yes I did look up that shit band on Wikipedia, but I think its funny you cant do the same when I ask you where the idea of human rights comes from. Your lack of curiosity explains why you have the intelligence of a pile of rocks.

[p00lman]

Nothing funnier than a troll desperate for attention, and desperate for a penis. Tell me more.

[fczwartek]

I think you're wrong about free staters (and other libertarians) not wanting to dissolve the system.

There certainly are a few moderate libertarians (like Ridley) who are apparently more interested in reform...but if this message board is any kind of indicator, the moderates are a dwindling minority.

These people who advocate for a "voluntary" society, who despise democracy, and worship the free market (which is neither free, or a market), are not moderate reformers.

[SSILENTNATION]

The govt. is following the rules. Wallace Nolan wanted the email addresses for Keene employees; he got them. But he is pissed because it isn't in email form. Now....if you think such a thing is something to get so worked up over so as to sue - and waste time and $ - then there probably isn't much more I can say that would convince you otherwise. I know I'm a "troll" in everyone's eyes, but come on - every now and then someone must question the legitimacy of a complaint.

[landofbile]

If the law says that the state is, if requested, supposed to provide them in electronic form and they do not do so the only outlet is the courts. That's their role. I bet the city brings up rather wasteful cases to court all the time... those should be criticized more then lawsuits looking to hold government accountable to their own laws... regardless of how petty they may seem. It is one of the jobs of the judicial branch.

[SSILENTNATION]

That is the issue - the law does not state that it need be sent via electronic format. Wallace Nolan just feels like being litigious. Look him up.....he isn't doing this for anyone's "liberty" movement - he is doing this because this is how he makes his living. Look him up....he's a crook - and you people are supporting that. Shameful.

[landofbile]

If he doesn't have a case the courts will throw it out and he'll have to pay to cover the costs. I don't see a problem with that in and of itself.

If he's making money by suing government successfully then the blame should be placed on bad judges or laws if illegitimate. You can only take this particular case into account when judging the merits of it. I don't care if he's a murderer... if he has a legitimate case he has a legitimate case. You say he doesn't. I'll leave that to the courts.