Needle jumping on your turntable? Set the Anti-Skating

[brunoseibert]

very helpful..

[luki83ld]

I forgot to say that it happened on both decks

[luki83ld]

hey mate! I have a problem with gemini tt1000! When I bought it I balanced the all, but found himself in the Issue will ba anti skate my work at all, and when you scratch a little tone arm moves, but nothing terrible. whether it is by default done or ..? Thanks in advance

[michaelman311]

can someone look at my video and give me some help?  watch?v=t1Cgwc2dces

[allamericanloz]

i have a philco model K-1633X-121 and it is very very old. the needle keeps jumping half the time. what do i do?

[Underthejrose]

is that a tiger army vinyl? =D

[49kasey]

I just do it by ear with a normal record, you can clearly hear it if you have half an ear. Try it. It might be different for 45 rpm.

[OldMusicOnVinyl1]

My Audio-Technica CN5625AL cartridge kept backwards skipping on some rougher records, and I knew it must have had something to do with the antiskating, so I referred to your video for help. I followed your instructions carefully, and I'm happy to report my skipping woes are over! Thank you so much Jon for the help!

[TheBeebopper]

I totally understand what you are saying, but what happens when you change speed from 33 to 45, is there more pull to the centre, do you need to use more 'anti-skate'? I really should know this, but I didn't think to ask at college, I didn't think to ask at the station. I just check the stylus appears centred if I don't have a scope and setup discs. I'll balance channels if there is suspicion of error, but I've not studied lateral bias in detail. Please examine it and report backj.

[curtis8516]

i just rest a coin or a battery on it, im 17 so im probably ruining it! its murder trying to play fleetwood mac big love as it skips like mad! i have a bush rpa1

[WalkWithMeInHelll]

@curtis8516 omg i love that song haha, fleetwood mac is amazing, im only 21 so i have memories of listening to it with my dad in the car as a kid, great song!

[BassRaisers]

i want that slipmatttttttttttttttttttttttt­tttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JTS29580]

further to my message below i think i've cracked it. even though the recommended weight is 4 if i have it at 3 and the antiskate at about 2.8 it works spot on. tried it with a 1 sided record and it stays perfectly still in the middle. think the problem is with the technics antiskate dial only going up to 3 when i have the weight on 4 grammes (or 0 in the case of the technics) 3 isn't enough antiskate so it goes to the centre.

[JTS29580]

quick question for you mate. i have an sl1210 mk2 and i'm using an ortofon pro s concorde cartridge with it. with the cartridge i'm using the recommended tracking force is 4 grammes so i have it set to 4 grammes but with the technics counterweight that means it's at 0 because it only goes up to 3.5. the technics instruction manual tells you to have the antiskate set to the same as your counterweight so therefore it would be 0. however on a 1 sided vinyl it's whizzing to the middle of the record.

[techtester45]

Is all you need a turntable to basicly scratch and just have fun with it, or do you need like speakers and some other stuff?

[psykick77]

@techtester45 a mixer and speakers help a little. lolz

[techtester45]

@psykick77 duhh lol i wanna learn

[OZPerpetue]

@psykick77 and an amp you forgot the amp

[metalshadowmario4]

What do I do if I don't have an anti Skating ?

[njmikec]

Cheers big ears. Thanks. :o)

[bluesilky]

So you saw your ugly mug on the smooth side great. Hey question which country produces more Turntable Champions(DNC winners) & has dominated the turntable culture since the 80's?

[DJJohndice]

@bluesilky the US?

[glict]

Just leave it on zero. That works fine

[vibrancy3]

does this apply to 1210's aswelll ???

question prob been asked a million times!!!

but anyone know ???

[ivangonzale2016]

how do you get the green led on the pitch indicator on when its in the middle? like automatically. not pressing reset..

[peppoj]

Could i use a CD instead of the blank vinyl?

[unrealloco]

if you want to be a true dj use turntables

[producerben]

If you don't have a "blank" vinyl, the general rule of thumb is that you set the antiskate to the same ammount as your tone arm weight. For example : 3 on tone arm weight dial, 3 on antiskate setting.

[gee707]

well explained! a million thanks!

[redabolo]

hahahahaha

you call this tutorial??

hahahahaha

blank vinil is bullshit

remove the needle and move the antiskating

look to the dj q-bert tutorial (do it yourself)

q-bert is a real dj tutor

not you

[frankie4la]

q-bert is a legendary dj but a shitty tutor...

if you follow q-berts logic (which emphasizes a ton on scratching prep) you will wear out both your vinYl's and needles...

[battlestarvfx]

I agree, he can't set up his decks to save his life.

[sneskid]

Agreed. Also, look at the way q-bert basically FORCED that counterweight into position like that, in his video. That poor Technics :( (:

Anyone who turns a counterweight, points to the scale and says "I don't even know what the hell that does", and then proceeds to turn the counterweight the wrong way around, has no business setting up turntables.

[foodandmoney]

lol wanker

[sneskid]

That shouldn't be happening. Readjust your vertical tracking force (weight) to what is recommended by your cartridge manufacturer, and then make sure your turntable is PERFECTLY LEVEL.

Now try adjusting your anti-skate again.

[05garmstrong]

its fine now, the anti-skating sprig was screwed up. thanks anyways

[ubzm555]

l'm having problem with the tonearm moving to outside of the record. l tried to adjust and what is mentioned on the vid but i'm still having problem with it.

Can anybody know what it could be?

[producerben]

Make sure you have the weighting system on the arm set up correctly. The arm COULD be sitting too light or too HEAVY so the antiskate can't compensate for it enough

[sneskid]

I know this post is from 6 months ago, but I figured I'd reply anyway.

It sounds like your turntable is not level. Use a bubble level, to help you fix this.

[tschipov]

wow a mokum slipmat !!!!!

[devonhellier]

ok mate most of the peeps watchin this have acctually seen a truntable we aint spastics!!!!!! jus get on with the vid u posh c**t

[wotsthedifferance]

why is anti skating so important

[YellaDevil1]

This guy's videos help me keep my basics sharp. The first time I discovered the anti-skip was AFTER I had broken my cousin's $75 Shure needle(it was my second time on the tables, I was still learning).

[sweepee123]

shure needles are known for breaking down,they are not build to last.

a better alternative is ortofon or stanton.

[Sukh8001]

yea shure's are horrible

[producerben]

Personal choice man, but maybe your deck was not or is not set up correctly and it doesn't sound as good. I went through a stage of testing different DJ carts and styli. My prefered chices were Pickering, Ortofon Super DJ series, Shure, Stanton. But that's my own opinion.

[Sukh8001]

i just dont like them because they are bulky, some new records have a nice lip that comes up at the edge. With Shure's they skip a little because they get to low to the record and the lip causes it to move ahead... thats all

[willowtheguy]

thanks for a tutorial.. i dont have a anti skate on my stanton turntables... will this wear my records?

[elektrey]

some have automatic anti skate.

[producerben]

anti skate could well be preset in the factory, but it won't be automatic

[bal20]

Good video man 5*

[superheaton]

Hey nice video!

Question:

My record doesnt grab fast enough when it is stopped or brushed back....

I have a slippery Butter Rug slipmat. The platter seems to move fine and starts within 2seconds.

Just want to make sure if it is my slipmat. I'm not sure if other pro's in videos push it back perfectly in sync, after a back brush movement. Some1 let me know?

[jackass11250]

U are f***n GOD ;)

[teendude16]

I would like to thank you for helping me setup my tonearm, it is something I did not know how to do before, or even thought about it, your very smart and it is easy now, I had thought it was hard to do. I have more then one turntable. One is from england, transcriptors, I guess the instructions is for more/most tonearms, I guess?. Thanks so much. I like your vids.

[12inchRules]

Haha, Mokum slipmat! Respect!

[coasttocoast7]

dont you just set it to the same # as the tracking force?

[producerben]

Yeah you can do that, I do use that method, but there are varying ways to do it. Audiophiles use test tones on test vinyls to do it. But this is a good one for DJ use or your suggestion if you don't have a "blank" vinyl

[Funkie010]

thnx a lot..

Nice Mokum slipmat by the way.. ;)

[sounzdeep]

i nvr new what the hell the point of this thing was. now i do. most people moved it to help but never adjuste dproperly with a blank record... which most people dont have

loved it... thanks for talking alot

[hansdnb]

Excellent tutorial video!

[Dwaas88]

thanks for the vid

but still i dont understand what the use is of anti skating.. will needle stay on the same position when there is no track? Why should you want that? when you play tracks that is quite usseless? Im a noob though so what do you win with this anti skating?

[pr4gm4]

For just plain listening this is important if you want the right sound. A stereo record have right and left channel on each side of the inner walls of the groove. The centrifugal force pulls the stylus in to the center of the record. This means there will be more force on one of the walls so you get more sound from one speaker. To fix this, the horizontal counter force must be set to equalize the centrifugal force vs. down force. When this is equalized you get correct sound from both speakers.

[pr4gm4]

...and for DJ's I guess it is extra important since they scratch the record back and forth, so with no equalizing of weight and forces, the stylus skates all over the place...

I tried to reply to Dwaas88, but that didn't work :P

[producerben]

the anti skate assists the tracking of the stylus tip between the groove walls of the vinyl. As well as achieving good stereo sepperation, a well tracked stylus wont have any added distortion and will prevent sibilence issues. An example of bad Sibilence is when "s" sounds come out as "SSHHH" sounds.

[Kidman848]

Antiskate should only be used for playback or recording purposes. I have found that If your scratching and cuing the needle tends to jump out of the groove with antiskate on.

[djnineeleven]

thnx a lot now I get what`s the antiskating thnx a lot but in the manual they said to set the antiskating to the same to be equal to the wieght that u set the tone arm to like 0.5g = 0.5 on the antiskating but anyway i`ve done what you said on this video and when i try to scratch the needle is all over the place no matter how light i try to make my hands so how do i have to deal with that plz answer and thnx a lot

[SlashButcher]

You need to change the weight of tone arm to higher rate. That should solve your problem.

[shinri1]

I think this is way too complicated. A blank disc setting is usually not accurate because a modulated groove with music causes much more drag on the stylus than a blank disc. For regular record playing, just follow Technics' instructions and set the anti skating dial to the same number as your tracking force. If you do a lot of scratching and back cueing, you may find it will skip less if you turn the anti skating way down or off.

[ellaskins]

to shinri1, thanks for all your comments , they have been a great help to me and i'm sure they will be a help to others. thanks johnathan

[DjSNO3]

how tight are the screws holding the stylus to the headshell need to be?...just to know....

[stevesurv]

Why didn't you use a turntable with a functioning anti-skate mechanism?

[fireboy1414]

what do you do if you dont have anti-skate and it keeps jumping..what then...thats my problem

[nathango]

same problem you got it on ebay?

[fireboy1414]

no its one of stantons low end tables...

[djGoodfella24]

another informative vid jonathan,nice one

[Abrasaxon]

I'm a bit puzzled Johnathan. Maybe I mist it in an earlier post. Did you you go out and buy another Tech 12 or is it another one you had laying around or did you repossess your old ones???

[vinyljunkie07]

Yo mate, the anti skating should be set at the same value as you have your counter weight set at. So if you are tracking at 3grams you set the anti skating at 3.

[allthingsbouncy]

thats what i thought,

[brettland]

good vid fully understood that it was as clear as mud

[BigMilan]

GRRRR i was SO going to do this exact same video tomorrow!!! lol. well at least my anti skating thing works, so i'll show how it works, and post it as a response. lol... next time i'll be quick to implement ideas!!!

anyway it's recorded and loading to my computer right now. it'll be a good compliment to this video i think. i'll post it as a response tomrorow or something

[grittey]

so that's where my other mokum slipmat is!!!!!!!!!

[DJPWN]

Heh, I guess I had way too much wieght on my Cartridge cause regardless of the Anti-Skate position it moved to center of record at the same speed. After adjusting the wieght I found out that I can make the Cartridge stay still. Thank you so much again John. Now I have a standard ROFL!

[syntse]

Couldn't you work there same way as with riding pitch finding the correct spot. While the needle is on the record and record is spinning you notice it drives to one direction while this happens turn the skating so you eventually get it to stay still?

[BigMilan]

that's exactly how i did it in a video i'll psot here. it's a bit quicker that way yea.

[DudasMiska]

I have 2 stanton T60s, what would use suggest I do if there are no anti skating devices on them? Also where do you get vinyl thats just clear without any music on it?

[JonAvalon]

DudasMiska

Stanton STR8 arms or straight arms in general don't need an anti-skate. The STR8-150 does have a anti-skate knob but its actually not connected to anything to its not gonna have an effect. One like ur T.60 is already balanced

[DudasMiska]

Thank you guys

[DudasMiska]

I find that it still jumps from time to time but thats only when I do some scratching, then the energy I find is transferred to the other side of the platter where the stylus sits on the vinyl.

[BigMilan]

not sure how you would adjust it without that dial, but you don't buy a blank vinyl. some vinyls will occasioanlly have a song on only one side and the other side will be perfectly flat. that's the case in this videop ,and the one i will post as a response

[baalpeteor]

i did a google search for "buy singled sided vinyl" also "buy one sided vinyl" will work. found one for 3 bucks on ebay

[baalpeteor]

what if the table wobbles 2? like a stick with a plate on top.. it goes around when u press start.. but it dips in the same spot as it goes around.. its not bad or nothing but looking at your table it seems it was straight.. perhaps just cheaper tables?

[baalpeteor]

i shoulda rephrased that. not the table but the platter dips

[baalpeteor]

nicely done. thx alot. I also found out my slipmat was crooked.. and the shopping bag .. so i have to cut that.. but I bent my slipmat straight ;p