Great video. I've been working small scale and would love to try large scale someday. By the way, there is a new Facebook page to help us get in touch with others interested in the craft. It's a community just beginning. We'll figure out the best ways to share. Would you like to join us? If so please stop by and like the page. We'd love to see photos of your pieces and practice, too. Anyone working on fold forming is welcome. Just search for fold forming (no dash) on facebook.
Fabulous video. I've taken a class in fold forming based on the great book by Charles Lewton-Brain. Of course, we did small scale pieces with copper.Eventually I want to do my pieces with fine silver and enamel them. Your work is magnificent and I would love to try that too, but alas I have no possibility of such equipement. Normally we would not even have a chance to see such work. Thank you for sharing. It is very much appreciated
Hey there Bill. Absolutely loved the video. I have just found this after purchasing a book on Fold Forming. I have a real interest in bladesmithing too, having just nearly completed my workshop, but still would like to get me a good powerhammer. Would you mind me asking more about the one you use in the video? I purchased the Simple Air Hammer (RKs) booklet a few years ago, but havent gotten around to making one yet. Any advice would be welcome.
thanks, KW. Glad you enjoyed the vid. I'd be glad to help ya with the S.A. hammer when you build. The one in the video has been working great for me since '95.
Much appreciated indeed. It may still be a while until I get the time to put to the project, as we are house renovating (big time) for the next year or more.
It's a homemade "Simple Air Hammer" that is from a design that is available from ABANA. It was originally designed by Ron Kinyon. Which is why it's sometimes referred to as the Kinyon style hammer.
AND I'm not sure of the music..it's something that Youtube has available........
i didn't know you could heat aluminium! Obviously you can! I am doing small scale fold forming on aluminium,but im having trouble with it. this is cool by the way!
sure you can........you can heat pretty much anything..can't ya? The trick with aluminum is knowing the correct temperature when "annealing". There are a few ways to do this. In the video you can see me "rubbing a piece of wood" on the heated aluminum. When the aluminum is at the correct temp. the wood leaves a dark mark. IF you quench at that temp. the aluminum will be annealed/soft.
Another way...is to put a Sharpie mark on the aluminum......the Sharpie "burns off" at the same temp. AND another Old School way to calculate that temp. is to COVER the aluminum with SOOT from an acet. torch.....the soot burns off at the SAME TEMP.
SO.....there are many ways to determine that temp.
best of luck with your fold forming. IT'S A BLAST, isn't it?
That's usually our FIRST mistake.....when we think "we're the only ones doing anything"........LOL . I like the quote....."There are no original ideas.....the ancients STOLE them all".
why do you use water to quench? why not oil? water tends to not cool the metal evenly, and often causes it to crack or become deformed. not saying what you're doing is wrong, just wondering.
it's not heated as high as something in a forge. the degree of temperature change isn't as great and i think the aluminum is pretty pure. foreign stuff in the metal causes it to be brittle
The aluminum could just as easily been heated in a forge....if it fit. The torch gives a lil more control. As for the aluminum being pretty pure.......it's an alloy... 6061.....not pure, FWIW.
I'm not trying to harden the aluminum, I'm annealing it. Quenching in oil is something that you'd do with an OIL HARDENING steel. Think you may have "anneal and hardening" confused, IMO.
TO anneal aluminum you quench in water when the aluminum is at the proper temperature. I'm using a lil trick, with a piece of wood, to tell when I've achieved that temp.
Great video. I've been working small scale and would love to try large scale someday. By the way, there is a new Facebook page to help us get in touch with others interested in the craft. It's a community just beginning. We'll figure out the best ways to share. Would you like to join us? If so please stop by and like the page. We'd love to see photos of your pieces and practice, too. Anyone working on fold forming is welcome. Just search for fold forming (no dash) on facebook.
Sue
SueLacyDesigns 7 months ago
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thanks, Sue. :) Great idea for a FB page.
bill
ornametalsmith 7 months ago
Fabulous video. I've taken a class in fold forming based on the great book by Charles Lewton-Brain. Of course, we did small scale pieces with copper.Eventually I want to do my pieces with fine silver and enamel them. Your work is magnificent and I would love to try that too, but alas I have no possibility of such equipement. Normally we would not even have a chance to see such work. Thank you for sharing. It is very much appreciated
lakenewell 1 year ago
awesome
pinkyrnc23 1 year ago
Hey there Bill. Absolutely loved the video. I have just found this after purchasing a book on Fold Forming. I have a real interest in bladesmithing too, having just nearly completed my workshop, but still would like to get me a good powerhammer. Would you mind me asking more about the one you use in the video? I purchased the Simple Air Hammer (RKs) booklet a few years ago, but havent gotten around to making one yet. Any advice would be welcome.
Regards
KW
Britguy1962 2 years ago
thanks, KW. Glad you enjoyed the vid. I'd be glad to help ya with the S.A. hammer when you build. The one in the video has been working great for me since '95.
ornametalsmith 2 years ago
Much appreciated indeed. It may still be a while until I get the time to put to the project, as we are house renovating (big time) for the next year or more.
Thanks again.
Britguy1962 2 years ago
What type of power hammer is that?
and what is the name of the artist that recorded that music?
Thanks
propdr 2 years ago
It's a homemade "Simple Air Hammer" that is from a design that is available from ABANA. It was originally designed by Ron Kinyon. Which is why it's sometimes referred to as the Kinyon style hammer.
AND I'm not sure of the music..it's something that Youtube has available........
ornametalsmith 2 years ago
i didn't know you could heat aluminium! Obviously you can! I am doing small scale fold forming on aluminium,but im having trouble with it. this is cool by the way!
maxineey 3 years ago
sure you can........you can heat pretty much anything..can't ya? The trick with aluminum is knowing the correct temperature when "annealing". There are a few ways to do this. In the video you can see me "rubbing a piece of wood" on the heated aluminum. When the aluminum is at the correct temp. the wood leaves a dark mark. IF you quench at that temp. the aluminum will be annealed/soft.
ornametalsmith 2 years ago
Another way...is to put a Sharpie mark on the aluminum......the Sharpie "burns off" at the same temp. AND another Old School way to calculate that temp. is to COVER the aluminum with SOOT from an acet. torch.....the soot burns off at the SAME TEMP.
SO.....there are many ways to determine that temp.
best of luck with your fold forming. IT'S A BLAST, isn't it?
ornametalsmith 2 years ago
I've used the Sharpie method for years to make 6061 T6 workable, thought I was the only one that used it.
originaLkomatoast 2 years ago
That's usually our FIRST mistake.....when we think "we're the only ones doing anything"........LOL . I like the quote....."There are no original ideas.....the ancients STOLE them all".
ornametalsmith 2 years ago
this is amazing, thanks for sharing!
rhinestonextract 3 years ago
why do you use water to quench? why not oil? water tends to not cool the metal evenly, and often causes it to crack or become deformed. not saying what you're doing is wrong, just wondering.
rocky60002001 4 years ago
it's not heated as high as something in a forge. the degree of temperature change isn't as great and i think the aluminum is pretty pure. foreign stuff in the metal causes it to be brittle
jayzillawashere 2 years ago
HUH? ya lost me on this one. LOL
The aluminum could just as easily been heated in a forge....if it fit. The torch gives a lil more control. As for the aluminum being pretty pure.......it's an alloy... 6061.....not pure, FWIW.
ornametalsmith 2 years ago
Rocky,
I'm not trying to harden the aluminum, I'm annealing it. Quenching in oil is something that you'd do with an OIL HARDENING steel. Think you may have "anneal and hardening" confused, IMO.
TO anneal aluminum you quench in water when the aluminum is at the proper temperature. I'm using a lil trick, with a piece of wood, to tell when I've achieved that temp.
Hope that makes what I was doing......clearer. :)
ornametalsmith 2 years ago