RE the 0dBFS Ceiling. If you're working with outboard gear then it's generally accepted that 0dB in the hardware world is the equivalent of -18dB in a DAW as you can push hardware beyond 0dB without any nasty effects & in fact sometimes quite pleasing results, but if you go over 0dB in a DAW it's Game Over.
So, if you set the 0dBFS Ceiling (0dB Full Scale) to -18dBs then your lower-volume outboard gear will be hitting the VW as if it were at 0dB (Unity Gain).
@Dubphazor Hmm, actually not sure now if that should be +18dB to compensate. I haven't actually used the VW, just stumbled across this vid. But some 'analogue-modelled' plug-ins like the Softube CL-1b & Slate Digital VCC observe analogue gain-staging. The CL-1b requires a Trim plug-in before it when working solely in a DAW as around -18dB is it's sweet-spot. You can set VCCs Input & then use the Gain & Drive to mimick analogue behaviour.
Is it possible to share your mastering chain? I know is much to ask but it would be a great help to us beginners to get our tracks fat enough to a point that you can feel it pounding in you chest!
"Separate controls on VintageWarmer's rear panel independently adjust the thresholds for three frequency bands. These threshold controls work in conjunction with VintageWarmer's Ceiling control, which is a global threshold adjustment for all compressors (in either mode) and the multiband mode's brickwall limiter." -- PSPaudioware VintageWarmer
Great tutorial! A question: when A/B-comparing the dry and wet mixes (that you've set to channel 1 and 2 respectively), how do you make it so that channel 1 gets disabled once you activate channel 2 and vice verse?
I am not 100% sure about this, but as i understand it, the ceiling is pretty much a control for the brickwall. If your signal is at -4 db and you'd rather have it at -8 db, move the ceiling to -8 db and make sure that the brickwall is turned on. You might get a bit of distortion though. I guess what i am trying to say is that it is the control for the limiter.
You've literally created one of the most concise and useful software presentations I've ever seen. You're obviously a teacher or have public speaking experience. :) That was incredibly watchable.
Amazing tutorial man, this is definitely A go to plugin. One question though, if i want to pump up a channel should i use it as a return track or as part of a channel strip with different settings depending on the track? And the question then should be, is this gonna load up my cpu? Thanks!
@kozihoppy Either way would work, especially if you have several percussion tracks grouped or are being fully routed through a bus. Just remember that return tracks typically have their effects set to 100% wet, which would likely require careful "send" settings from the original track. If CPU is an issue, you can certainly use the MicroWarmer. Just trust your ears and constantly A/B for comparison. Worry more about the "blend" the plug creates as opposed to the "loudness."
Really helpful tutorial. Can you help with the 'link' switch? Is that for New york Compression? Any help on that would be great. you should do one on Ozone!
@Gennady93 The link switch changes the channels on which the VW is processing audio. When Link is ON, the VW is processing both L and R channels in stereo, which can also be reduced to the MONO signal with the mono/stereo switch. If Link is OFF, the VW processes either the L or R channel, which means you can have one VW on each side with different settings.
What's that black screen on your mix window? Looks like a built in spectrum analyzer for Live. I've been using Live for a good 2 years now and I haven't seen anything like it. Looks very useful!
Great tutorial! I bought this plug awhile ago because of the top producers who swear by it. I knew it needed to be worked into my productions to improve my sound but I never could get into learning from this manual. I tried playing with it a bit and knew I wasn't using it right so I slowly quit reaching for it. Its been on the back of my mind as a tool I really need to utilize so I thought I would search again for a video tutorial. This was EXACTLY what I was begging for! THANKS SO MUCH!!
@djmattplay You're very welcome! Just remember, to use it a little at a time. It certainly isn't the type of plug that can go full-on 100% wet. It'll be too much. Subtlety is key here... Glad you liked!
This is incredible tutorial. The BEST I've seen on YouTube on any music tech-related matter. Awesome work. Of course its not for the beginners, but really enjoyable and educative. Thank you sir!
Wow this is the best tutorial i have seen. Extremely clear, to the point and bs, Balanced volume/narration mix, zoom in everytime and hd video. what more could we ask for.. Thank you so much!
In every big recording studios there's a "rule" that you put your loudness maximizer aka limiter's ceiling to -0.3dB to prevent clipping on "weak" audio systems, because as you know nowadays the quality is behind and way behind quantity, and trash systems, headphones just starts to clip if the mastering engineer did his job with the ceiling set on 0 dB.
(continueing my previous post) That also makes sense considering the interaction with the saturation adjustment (i.e. the ceiling decides when the saturation kicks in).
Isn't the "ceiling" knob just a threshold for when the limiting begins (i.e. if you don't want the signal to reach beyond -3dB you set the ceiling to -3?
@Cristos08 Yes that does make a lot of sense! I'm just wondering what sort of use that application that would have in a real life scenario. I think I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the idea of limiting beyond 0.0dB, unless of course the track fader is kept very low and signal is driven into a high ceiling. I just don't know! haha...
The KNEE is what determines where the saturation comes in, but I see your point.
@JGS007 I agree it seems really strange to go above 0dB, can't really think of an application for that either (in the analog world it can be desirable to go above since a mixing desk might have something like 25dB headroom above 0. This may induce some nice distortion from the analog equipment, in the digital world, however, this is rarely the case. Though in a DAW like Logic you can actually push the master bus a bit for distortion, so who knows, it might sound great ....)
@Cristos08 Exactly! I was alluding to this in the video, that it might be something "analog" related that a DAW can simulate but might not necessarily be common practice. I totally agree we should experiment and report back our findings. Good ideas you have there!
Great tutorial! I couldn't understand why my tracks were sounding a bit empty when I mixed them with tracks of other producers. That problem has been solved! So many thanks!
awesome video dude
Bowsar1337 6 days ago
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And as you are working within a DAW and the VW defaults to 0dB as 0dBFS then you're totally correct that you don't need to change it :)
Dubphazor 1 week ago
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Dubphazor 1 week ago
RE the 0dBFS Ceiling. If you're working with outboard gear then it's generally accepted that 0dB in the hardware world is the equivalent of -18dB in a DAW as you can push hardware beyond 0dB without any nasty effects & in fact sometimes quite pleasing results, but if you go over 0dB in a DAW it's Game Over.
So, if you set the 0dBFS Ceiling (0dB Full Scale) to -18dBs then your lower-volume outboard gear will be hitting the VW as if it were at 0dB (Unity Gain).
Dubphazor 1 week ago
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Dubphazor 1 week ago
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Dubphazor 1 week ago
@Dubphazor Hmm, actually not sure now if that should be +18dB to compensate. I haven't actually used the VW, just stumbled across this vid. But some 'analogue-modelled' plug-ins like the Softube CL-1b & Slate Digital VCC observe analogue gain-staging. The CL-1b requires a Trim plug-in before it when working solely in a DAW as around -18dB is it's sweet-spot. You can set VCCs Input & then use the Gain & Drive to mimick analogue behaviour.
Dubphazor 1 week ago
Jamie, the way I understand it and the way my friends and I have always used it, the Ceiling acts like the threshold on a conventional compressor.
OlavBasoskiMusic 1 week ago
Excellent videos. Thank you so much, No more presets for me.
MrPetepetepete 1 week ago
What a great tut! Thanks!
Is it possible to share your mastering chain? I know is much to ask but it would be a great help to us beginners to get our tracks fat enough to a point that you can feel it pounding in you chest!
DjNaiki 3 weeks ago
what a plugin!!!! does anyone ever use this in the mastering stage of production as ive had some good results when iv used it
CHRISDJS72 4 weeks ago
Outstanding tutorial mate, very informative.
TheMarauder1974 1 month ago
Thanks for making this tutorial. It was a big help!
merkaba1 1 month ago
I think Ceiling is like threshold maybe?
rygrystaldrigrist 1 month ago
Thanks for taking the time to make these tutorials, really informative and very usefull.
chidamole 2 months ago
"Separate controls on VintageWarmer's rear panel independently adjust the thresholds for three frequency bands. These threshold controls work in conjunction with VintageWarmer's Ceiling control, which is a global threshold adjustment for all compressors (in either mode) and the multiband mode's brickwall limiter." -- PSPaudioware VintageWarmer
Jul 1, 2003 12:00 PM, BY MICHAEL COOPER
KevinGenus 2 months ago
Great tutorial! A question: when A/B-comparing the dry and wet mixes (that you've set to channel 1 and 2 respectively), how do you make it so that channel 1 gets disabled once you activate channel 2 and vice verse?
kerryzhang 2 months ago in playlist More videos from JGS007
I am not 100% sure about this, but as i understand it, the ceiling is pretty much a control for the brickwall. If your signal is at -4 db and you'd rather have it at -8 db, move the ceiling to -8 db and make sure that the brickwall is turned on. You might get a bit of distortion though. I guess what i am trying to say is that it is the control for the limiter.
JensMadsenBassMusic 2 months ago
You've literally created one of the most concise and useful software presentations I've ever seen. You're obviously a teacher or have public speaking experience. :) That was incredibly watchable.
PhilForHire 2 months ago 4
@PhilForHire Thank you for such kind words! And yes, I am a music teacher when I'm not in my studio cranking out some techno!
JGS007 2 months ago 3
Just wondering, how do you do the quick toggeling between channel 1 and 2?
spaaske 3 months ago
@spaaske I have an APC40 controller, which has dedicated buttons for the mute/unmute controls in Ableton.
JGS007 3 months ago
Amazing tutorial man, this is definitely A go to plugin. One question though, if i want to pump up a channel should i use it as a return track or as part of a channel strip with different settings depending on the track? And the question then should be, is this gonna load up my cpu? Thanks!
kozihoppy 3 months ago
@kozihoppy Either way would work, especially if you have several percussion tracks grouped or are being fully routed through a bus. Just remember that return tracks typically have their effects set to 100% wet, which would likely require careful "send" settings from the original track. If CPU is an issue, you can certainly use the MicroWarmer. Just trust your ears and constantly A/B for comparison. Worry more about the "blend" the plug creates as opposed to the "loudness."
JGS007 3 months ago
Really helpful tutorial. Can you help with the 'link' switch? Is that for New york Compression? Any help on that would be great. you should do one on Ozone!
Gennady93 3 months ago
@Gennady93 The link switch changes the channels on which the VW is processing audio. When Link is ON, the VW is processing both L and R channels in stereo, which can also be reduced to the MONO signal with the mono/stereo switch. If Link is OFF, the VW processes either the L or R channel, which means you can have one VW on each side with different settings.
JGS007 3 months ago
@JGS007 nice one...you have a great teaching style this vid was really helpful.
Gennady93 3 months ago
@JGS007 Do you know PSP Nitro...thank would be great if you could do a video on that.
Gennady93 3 months ago
amazing video!!! thanks a lot
hughsaidthat 4 months ago
Thanks a lot, really helpfull tuto :)
eSdarkenrahl 4 months ago
What's that black screen on your mix window? Looks like a built in spectrum analyzer for Live. I've been using Live for a good 2 years now and I haven't seen anything like it. Looks very useful!
RaggaDnB 4 months ago
@RaggaDnB That's exactly what it is! Look for "Spectrum" in your audio effects list...
JGS007 4 months ago
@JGS007 Got it! I just had to click the triangular icon and it went right up, thanks.
RaggaDnB 4 months ago
Great tutorial! I bought this plug awhile ago because of the top producers who swear by it. I knew it needed to be worked into my productions to improve my sound but I never could get into learning from this manual. I tried playing with it a bit and knew I wasn't using it right so I slowly quit reaching for it. Its been on the back of my mind as a tool I really need to utilize so I thought I would search again for a video tutorial. This was EXACTLY what I was begging for! THANKS SO MUCH!!
djmattplay 4 months ago
@djmattplay You're very welcome! Just remember, to use it a little at a time. It certainly isn't the type of plug that can go full-on 100% wet. It'll be too much. Subtlety is key here... Glad you liked!
JGS007 4 months ago
Awesome Tutorial!!! Thank you
willoliveirapereira 4 months ago
THIS IS GREAT! thank you so much! Really helpful and very clear tutorial.
kokhen 4 months ago
Excellent tutorial man..... Thanx !!!!!
Cregino2k 5 months ago
This is incredible tutorial. The BEST I've seen on YouTube on any music tech-related matter. Awesome work. Of course its not for the beginners, but really enjoyable and educative. Thank you sir!
potilassotilas 5 months ago
Thank you Potilas and Jeremy! Glad they helped!
JGS007 5 months ago
Wow this is the best tutorial i have seen. Extremely clear, to the point and bs, Balanced volume/narration mix, zoom in everytime and hd video. what more could we ask for.. Thank you so much!
jeremyfonseca7 5 months ago
In every big recording studios there's a "rule" that you put your loudness maximizer aka limiter's ceiling to -0.3dB to prevent clipping on "weak" audio systems, because as you know nowadays the quality is behind and way behind quantity, and trash systems, headphones just starts to clip if the mastering engineer did his job with the ceiling set on 0 dB.
So there's that .
rieesj 5 months ago
@JGS007
Thanks for a great tutorial, btw!
Cristos08 6 months ago
@JGS007
(continueing my previous post) That also makes sense considering the interaction with the saturation adjustment (i.e. the ceiling decides when the saturation kicks in).
Cristos08 6 months ago
@JGS007
Isn't the "ceiling" knob just a threshold for when the limiting begins (i.e. if you don't want the signal to reach beyond -3dB you set the ceiling to -3?
Cristos08 6 months ago
@Cristos08 Yes that does make a lot of sense! I'm just wondering what sort of use that application that would have in a real life scenario. I think I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the idea of limiting beyond 0.0dB, unless of course the track fader is kept very low and signal is driven into a high ceiling. I just don't know! haha...
The KNEE is what determines where the saturation comes in, but I see your point.
JGS007 6 months ago
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Cristos08 6 months ago
@JGS007 I agree it seems really strange to go above 0dB, can't really think of an application for that either (in the analog world it can be desirable to go above since a mixing desk might have something like 25dB headroom above 0. This may induce some nice distortion from the analog equipment, in the digital world, however, this is rarely the case. Though in a DAW like Logic you can actually push the master bus a bit for distortion, so who knows, it might sound great ....)
Cristos08 6 months ago
@Cristos08 Exactly! I was alluding to this in the video, that it might be something "analog" related that a DAW can simulate but might not necessarily be common practice. I totally agree we should experiment and report back our findings. Good ideas you have there!
JGS007 6 months ago
Thank you.
iammammoth 6 months ago
brilliant
keogh7776 6 months ago
dude you are awsome!!!!
ki2thedoubled 6 months ago
great video..u should do more
eldoradoNei 7 months ago
wow bookmarked this video
Freakingwork 8 months ago
@Freakingwork Thanks guys! Hope the tips help!
JGS007 8 months ago
Great tutorial! I couldn't understand why my tracks were sounding a bit empty when I mixed them with tracks of other producers. That problem has been solved! So many thanks!
1987ingeborg22 8 months ago