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Complete legend, us Norwegians treasure our heroes a lot.:D

JTucker3 2 years ago

@JTucker3 The Norwegians didn't treasure Sonia Henie.It took them many years to put up a statue of her at Frogner Park.Sonia turned her back on her home country.

HattieLovesCattie 1 year ago

@HattieLovesCattie If nothing else, we Norwegians are vindictive. If she had turned her back o us she wouldn't have a famous centre of art named after her, nor would she be universally reviered as a figure skating icon. I wonder what your sources are..

lektrum 1 year ago

@lektrum The shows about her on TV in the USA thru the years plus the book her brother wrote about her.

HattieLovesCattie 1 year ago

@lektrum, I never thought of norwegians as vindictive. In fact that's quite out of character in which I know many of your citizens. Are you sure you're not too hard on yourself now, lektrum, or is this better explained by your need a premise to build up your conclusion?

I tell you what I believe, it took some time for the norwegians to realize how big Sonja really was because she was greatest abroad. How's that for a more positive explanation? Well, okay, she also got an attitude:-)

Vocalallusive 1 year ago

@Vocalallusive It's not my need of a premise on which to build my conclusion. As a whole we as a society is based on the "law of Jante". I could ask you to wiki it, but I fear the wikipedia article is a bit too negative towards it. Matches current trends I suppose. It is frowned upon in media and as a general proposition, but speak to individuals, and you'll find it is basically hardcoded into us. I myself do not think of it as a bad thing. Has to do with checks and balances.

lektrum 11 months ago

@lektrum, I believe I hacked Jante pretty well at my stay and i must say I came to a whole different conclusion than my norwegian friends. I don't believe, at all, it's about equality amoung citizens, but rather a poorly hidden lie they too want it all. The solution, at least how I see it, is to teach people how much pain there is to be paid, "to get it all". Most people would probably realize the cost is too high. Then it's much easier to show respect for those it wasn't. Pwn me if I'm wrong.

Vocalallusive 11 months ago

@Vocalallusive There's an element of truth in what you say, but I have to vehemently oppose the notion we "want it all". What we want is to lead a life of comfort, not luxury. Looking at statistics (yeah I know statistics makes for a poor reference, but I've got no way of being objective in this debate) any "solution" to any perceived problem would only jeopardize what seems to be a winning formula (standard of living and so on).

lektrum 11 months ago

@lektrum the fact that norwegians never quite took to Henie had mutch to do with her connections with Hitler and his nazi regime.

Norwegians needed time to let that fact calm down a little and start to look at her as an legendary athlete, figureskateing is not a massive sport in Norway unlike in the United States.

SpursNorway 1 year ago

@SpursNorway Figure skating was massive in the 30's. She put herself before the collective, therefore the collective had no reason to support her, especially after the late 30's. The reason, I suppose, of her popularity must have been political in the sense of US vs. USSR after she became a US citizen in 1941. My grandfather was an important intelligence officer in the resistance, and she had denounced them.

lektrum 11 months ago

@SpursNorway There is no way anyone could have supported her post-war had it not been for politics. With the USSR having liberated the northern parts of the country in 1944, the "West" must have put up pressure to counteract any eastern influence through political whitewash, and the level of propaghanda up until the 90's has been in retrospect been quite scary. I'm not going to pass any judgement on her, but I think she would have been forgotten or persecuted had she been communist.

lektrum 11 months ago