ESPN 30 For 30 - Catching Hell Steve Bartman Story Part 10/10

[odenipb469]

Steve Bartman = Kaiser Soze

And like that ...... he's gone

[acdc2454]

The reason the cubs lost is because in game 1 mark grudzielanak made an error in the top of the ninth which would have been a double play but it wasn't then 2 runs scored and the marlins went up 9-8 and won in 11 innings if the cubs would have won they would have swept because they won the next 3 games and they would have won the series and went to the world series and game 6 wouldn't have happened that is true look it up.

[tokenmuchochiba]

Boston & Chicago sports fans have zero class. They continually embarrass the entire sporting world with their childish antics. Bartman seems like a great dude, donating to children's diabetes charities, taking the high road etc. He is obviously too good to be one of the many alcoholic Cubs fans who live their sad life vicariously through their shitty team.

[Hank1974]

Bob Costas saying "He made a mistake" only adds to the false blame directed at Steve Bartman.

That's no mistake. Every fan would be going for that ball. It's happened a thousand times before.

Unfortunately for Bartman, he did it during a Cubs playoff game, and the Cubs ended up doing what the Cubs always do.

[GialloHorror]

@Hank1974 That's a GREAT point about Costas's statement. It wasn't a mistake. More like wrong place, wrong time.

[Brian211978]

I wish buckner would have snubbed them again and not came. He didn't lose the game. The catcher did and that's that!

[brainsareus]

oh shit, you could not find a guy with a dark complexion, for the final re-enactment scene of alou,just missing the ball? btw- leave steve bartman the hell alone !!

[british87]

09:52,,is that chandler bing? lol

[Tyrunner0097]

6:35 That was actually a pretty good curve-ball! Yay, Buckner!!

[jismjacket]

I watched this live and thought it was Ben Stiller in disguise!!!

[seejayteeair]

What a pussy. No crying in baseball!

[gbjwal1]

That was an hour long apology from the media. They would do exactly the same thing if it happened again,though. Unlucky, Steve. That could have been anyone. Stay classy Chicago.

[Spudskie]

Bartman did not do anything wrong.

[GUTBUSTER79]

The group that did this documentary should win an award for "Dumbest questions pondered in a sports documentary." You don't need some deeply analytical analysis of why this or that. He made a bad decision at the wrong time for the wrong franchise, that's it. Friggin stupid!

[qaibthai]

THUMBS UP SO EVERYONE CAN SEE! Steve Bartman didnt make a mistake! Everyone who says that they wouldnt have caught that ball! they're lying! any one of us would have done the same! This "Catching Hell" series gives us the perception that Both Cubs and Bartman had the same equally amount of impact to something! when in fact really Steve bartmans life had become something else! i am ashamed of our humanity, if something like this was to happen in the real world! In the end its only a game!

[BOOMEROU4]

erikia just earned her place in heaven

[farronx]

@BOOMEROU4

For what;blubber?

Gimme a break...

[chris9ABC]

so this means steve bartman is booked to throw the first pitch the season after the Cubs win the World Series again. Congrats Steve!

[josheyboffey]

@chris9ABC 1 problem he will be dead by the time that happens

[ghouston69]

Man this kinda reminds me how Angel fans treated Donnie Moore after the 86 ACLS.

[AtTheDriveBy]

one of the better ESPN30for30.

[hydrogray]

This documentary shows nothing more of how people in America need to blame another person for mistakes by Government, social situations, and their own lives. Keep this in mind fans, it’s just a game! Sports bring people together and for those individuals who feel differently, get a grip!

One thing that stood out for me in this video is all the sports commentators, writers, and fans saying it’s a mistake, but we forgive him. No, it was a fan enjoying a game and nothing more!

[setokaiba991]

Funny thing is the Cubs would've then lost the WS to the Yankees. Remember that this was the 2003 NLCS and not the WS yet. Im still not convinced, that the 2003 Cubs would've won a best of 7 series against the Yankees. Im sure if any Yankee fans are reading this, that looking back the 2003 Yankees would've rather have played the Cubs than the Marlins during that year.

[TheStopmotionguy1000]

@setokaiba991 the cubs would of won that year

[theoochable]

this whole documentary changed my life as a cub fan when that incident happened I talked shit and a lot of it looking back I know I was an asshole for blaming one simple play on a fan I feel so bad for the guy now

[BionicleMOCs6810]

And why does the cloth say "We forgive you Bill Buckner"? It should be "Forgive us Bill Buckner," after they way they treated him.

[BionicleMOCs6810]

Rant mode: God, those stupid Cub fans p*ss me off so much. They drove a nice guy into hiding! People haven't heard from him in YEARS! And it was a freaking FOUL BALL! If those Cubs hadn't made so many errors, would they still have won? YES! Did the Marlins score any runs off the the misplayed foul ball? NO! It's the cubs fault they let eight runs! So many fans reached for the ball, but they're all pinning the blame on Bartman. Cubs fans have got to be the most heartless people in the world.

[knightschwartz]

bartman marries erica.

[knightschwartz]

gonzo really fucked up the most.

[VegasAlien]

Alou: crybaby. Cubs: crybabies. Cub fans: eternal crybabies. ANY other fan there would have gone for the ball. Steve has nothing to apologize for. The Cubs need to apologize for always sucking and taking fans' money.

[DreamObscene]

Poor Steve. I can only imagine what was going through his mind. I felt bad when the camera showed him wiping the beer off his face. I think he was well aware all the attention was on him, but he didn't want to make things worse by acknowledging it, so he sat there and tried to focus on the game. I hope he and his family have found some peace.

Also, 4 outs (had Alou made the catch) is a lifetime in baseball. The Rangers were down to the final out/strike TWICE in game 6 so...

[TheKrazyk2010]

As a seattle fan stating this: Chicago should be more thankful for such a sports city that have. They have two baseball teams that have won champions. They had the best player that ever played basketball and a recent MVP named Derrick rose. They have a good football team that is a threat. And to see cubs fans complain about one little mistake sickens me. Look at Seattle both the Seahawks and the mariners haven't won a damn thing. The sonics were relocated in 2008 and now okc is doing well. (wat

[unkomannn]

Cubs deserved to lose for how they reacted to the play.

You ain't gonna win when your whole stadium is feeling sorry for yourself.

Yet I could see why fans were annoyed with Bartman, His demeanour, the way he immediately shut out the outside world in his headphones, the blank stare, it all enraged fans and stirred the animal urge to stomp on a weaker thing. Even the way he is safe in his own world today, protected by his friends & lawyers, must be still annoying to some fans. Time will heal.

[dayjob77]

i do feel bad for Bartman and i do believe its his choice to forgive chicago when he feels like. but if he wants any of this to be forgotten, he needs speak out. he would be the most famous person for a month but after that, nobody would care about him anymore.

[Tyrunner0097]

If there are any heroes for this, they are Bartman and Buckner. It's amazing how well Buckner handled everything that went on for him since that ball went through him...he deserves to be considered for the HOF now, especially looking at how his career went.

As for Bartman, he probably did the right thing by slipping back into the shadows from where he had come from. Someday he will forgive the Cubs fans and all will be well...but only when HE says so, not the Cubs or the fans.

[nonlineark]

I totally thought he was in the witness protection prgram

[BULLHEART99]

Someone mentioned why Bartman does not move to South Florida. The answer is simple: there are more Cubs fans than Marlins fans :p

[BULLHEART99]

Didn't Chicago win the world series with the White Sox? Who cares about the cubs? ;)

[moboby]

Maybe if the city of Chicago apologizes to Steve the curse will go away. Anyway, cubs may be cursed, so what, Chicago was blessed for having MJ

[deedsy404]

I hope someday what the Red Sox's did for Buckner the Cubs can do for Bartman when we finally win a world series.

[shuart24]

@deedsy404

Why only when the team wins the World Series? Oh, we've won now so everything's cool between us. You're forgiven. What sort of message does that send? I live in Chicago but that was utterly despicable what occurred. I'm surprised Buckner didn't punch somebody for that.

I want to see the club and fans take the initiative to atone for its behavior even if they lose every single game. 

[mrceebees14]

There is a story that Buckner was at a baseball signing right before he left Boston in 1993. A kid had tossed Buckner a ball to sign, as he was tossing it a fan walked by and said "hey kid, don't do that, he might let it go through his legs." I heard Bill went after the guy, or someone near by did, but whatever the case, has anyone heard this of this story? Is it BS?

[YouCanCallMeAl1022]

It is not Bartman who should be seeking forgiveness. It is the city of Chicago who should be seeking atonement.

[TBEau1]

Every Cubs fan in Chicago should put a bumper sticker on their car that says "I'm Sorry Steve". Bad karma from the way fans treated him is the ONLY curse the Cubs have.

[mrceebees14]

I remember the media calling up Buckner after the Sox finally won it in 2004 and asked if he would want to come back to Fenway as a way of "being forgiven." That really pissed me off and it ticked Bill off also. He paused and said "forgive me for what?" And the media asshole had nothing to say and tried to change the subject. The media really fucked with this man, bunch of scribbling dick heads who were picked on in high school.

[choctaw46]

Hahahahaa cubs suck they deserved to loose bc we all know the real chicago team won it 2 years later

[TheStopmotionguy1000]

No since a lot of cubs fans forgave bartman so they will win

[spinblackcircles]

Cubs fans don't deserve to ever win a world series with the way they treated that guy. If karma exists at all they will just go on losing forever.

[gstew4444Usc]

ASS-hole ASS-hole ASS-hole, top 5 best chants ever, i was at the game and it is true everybody knew he lost us the game, i saw him in person and it looked like he wanted to commit sucicide

[dart1285]

@gstew4444Usc not sure whether to call you a stupid bitch or a stupid dick....but either will do. sober up, drink some orange juice minus the vodka you've had in it tonight

[3DGNumberOneFan]

Why doesn't he just move to South Florida? We'll accept him with open arms!

[Bones0]

I'm convinced if Alou had the self-control to not get so upset over the missed foul ball, it's entirely possible they would have continued to victory. When you make such an obvious visual display that you are upset, you convince everyone on your team and in the stadium that you are destined to lose. From there, self-fulfilling prophecy takes over and it's no wonder you lost. Had he simply shrugged the play off as a foul ball, it would have just been viewed as simply another strike.

[blindtimes]

@Bones0 that is so absolutely true it happens at lots of games and lots of times at the workplace you make a bad decision you take it out on someone moral is down, people are upset, energies get lower, people make mistakes. Watch the 2004 Red Sox Champs a lose team that was a bunch of "idiots" this team was fragile and once you have that you just wait and only hope, but you need to have more than hope

[JrJackassFilms]

if this comment gets 13 likes, i wil track down steve bartman

[MichRockHop81108]

This shit is crazy as hell. The words buckner says. I see it on tv about twice a week......damn.....

[mikeeey47]

IM DOWN WITH STEVE BARTMAN

[cjms08]

carey price just said he pulled a bill buckner when he got scored and miss played the puck when he took a swipe at it and it went into the net for a goal. if feel sorry for all these people who get theblame and it's not really there fault it's the teams fault who could not hold the lead

[MrChitownsports12]

I think Bartman should throw out the first pitch on opening day the year after the Cubs win the world series!! If he's still alive at the time!

[TexasPuertoRock]

@MrChitownsports12 I think that would be a bad idea because alot of Cubs fans are very superstitious and would think that it might bring the curse back. I think that Steve Bartman should just simply be left alone and happy that this didn't happen in New York or Boston where the fans eat, drink, live, and breathe their teams.

[NineInchLongSchlong]

BARTMAN DIDN'T "MAKE A MISTAKE"

[NineInchLongSchlong]

One thing this documentary DOESN'T say....Wrigley Field changed for the worst two years later, when the cross-town rival Chicago White Sox finally won the World Series. Cub fans seem emptier today. They're numb, drunk and cynical -- almost to the point that even if the Cubs won the World Series, the fans would be too jaded to celebrate. AND IT ISN'T BARTMAN'S FAULT -- the Cubs have simply passed their prime as a lovable team.

[Fruth37]

I enjoyed this very much. Mr. Buckner showed class and was 10 times the person the goons who pelted Bartman with beer, food, and insults. Thumbs up to Steve Bartman for also showing class and not profiteering from this incident. I hope if or when the Cubs win folks will get off his back. I also was disappointed that the finish of this piece that had the Cubs going to the Series after Alou caught the ball. 4 outs to go.

[mjn76]

Buckner had much more class than I ever knew. I doubt I would have been so gracious to a city of baseball fans who terrorized him and his family for years.

[MitchellWachtel]

i wish someone sucker punched that big goon asshole who threw the beer. prick doesn't even apologize years later for his childish actions. steve bartman is 10X the fan any of these fools are!

[InternetAesHole]

the last part of the video with the play by play being dubbed is WRONG. If moises caught the ball it would have been two outs, and no they wouldn't have gone to the world series after that probably play.

[iloveme969]

Bartman is the unluckiest man in the world considering he wasnt the person that leaned out the farthest but the ball curved in perfectly to hit him and every fan leans over to catch the foul balls but that foul ball was the most important one in Cubs history so he just wasnt lucky at all

[gutterrat101]

@bhawksaddict Lets remember that Red Sox fans never forgave Bill Buckner until after their team won the World Series, which was 18 years after the 1986 incident. These ignorant, boorish Cubs are NEVER gonna forgive Bartman unless the Cubs win a World Series, and I wouldn't hold my breath to see that happen.

[TheBlackhawksown]

I watched all ten parts I'm bored out of my mind ok?

[markus122piesuckers]

wow...

[bhawksaddict]

12:57-1307; Could not stop crying during that 10 second stretch

[bhawksaddict]

Smh Red Sox fans can forgive Bill Buckner & he wasn't even that big of an icon for them before '86, yet Cubs fans (except for me, & a few ones that aren't douchebags) can't forgive Sammy Sosa.

[AndyinMTL]

the moral of the story is...in what kind of society are we living in???

ITS JUST A FUCKING GAME! YES THE CUBS LOST THE AL FINALS...SO THE FUCK WHAT??? This Bartman dude made a mistake its time to forgive him and get this shit over with!

[3zer05]

The dude from the movie "there's something about marry" and "meet the fuckers" should play steve bartman in the "steve bartman movie"

[jrmixtapes]

@3zer05 its fockers dummy

[ldsjfdslakfjdsa]

I really feel for Steve. What fan wouldn't want a ball from the nlcs? He just wanted a ball...forgive the guy he did nothing wrong.

[DelPiero1980]

The difference between Boston and Chicago is that Chicago has two teams and the White Sox won the World Series two years after the Bartman incident and they lifted the curse for the city of Chicago because the WSox's last WS title was in 1917!!

That's the beauty of having two teams in the same city!!

[bengaLroyalty]

@DelPiero1980

You clearly have no idea about the relationship between Cubs and White Sox fans.

[thielees]

Steve, the fates went to a LOT of trouble to introduce you to your soul mate and you somehow blew it. Yes, I mean Erika the security guard. Maybe it's not too late. Call her, you idiot.

[Piecesof8]

@thielees

Hell, I wanted to marry her at the end of this movie. She seems like the best person in this whole ordeal, apart from Steve.

[mrceebees14]

@thielees I think she really, really felt bad for him. Before watching this documentary I knew about what had happened, I saw it and I thought "this guy was a doof." After watching this though I realized just how stupid we can all be and I feel bad for the guy.

I hope the Cubs win it one day.

[Coastergeekperson04]

@thielees He's married.

[elderlyjr]

The 2008 Cubs were better than the 2003 team. The '08 team was the real disappointment.

[nunnninja]

@xXRaginCajunXx5 People have many different speculations on what happened to him. Some say he moved to London. Some say he moved out of Chicago. Another speculation is that he still lives in the Chicago, but doesn't go out a lot. Because he was wearing a turtleneck, glasses, headphones, and a cap people don't notice him when he goes out. They say that he can't use his credit card because he doesn't want people to know if he's Steve Bartman.

[maroinmybones]

So Bartman tipped a ball that would have potentially been the second out in the inning? That's not the same as retiring the inning with a third out, or the end of the game. Cubs blow, and Karma is a bitch. They just cursed themselves for another 100 years.

[lecheessexy]

@WhyUGot2Hate its because the cubs havnt won a world series. If they did im sure he would be forgiven. But it really is a disgrace, this poor guys life was ruined.

[WhyUGot2Hate]

why can't the Cubs be like the red sox and forgive the man for his honest mistake. it wasnt his fault anyway, they were still winning be 3, they only needed 5 more outs, and gonzalez made that errror that would have probably got them out of the inning

[leafs3113]

@WhyUGot2Hate are you kidding me?? the red sox only forgave him and let it go when they finally won a world series almost 20 years later.... don't get all high on yourself just because you now forgive him because none of you would have if you hadn't won the world series yet....

[WhyUGot2Hate]

@leafs3113 i get what ur saying, but im not even a red sox fan. im from san diego, Padres territory.

[leafs3113]

@WhyUGot2Hate okay, it looked like you were a sox fan

[bhawksaddict]

@WhyUGot2Hate It took the Sox 2 World Series championships for them to forgive Buckner. I think once the Cubs win once, they'll forgive him.

[tamzokes]

most people in this world have little to no awareness. no clutch gene. bartman didn't have it that day

[xXRaginCajunXx5]

Does anybody know what happened to him. Like where is he now? Is he still hiding or what? Shit, i feel really sorry for him, but I feel more sorry for the fans that did all of that to him. Why not just say I'm sorry Steve and and pray that he forgives you back. If I was Steve I would have been cussing everybody out. At least he had good character unlike the fans at the time.

[TonyVisciardi]

That "catch" was in the 8th inning too. They still had one more FLA at bat to go.

[TonyVisciardi]

I wonder if Bartman speaks to the so called friends that went to the game with him? I never knew he went with people. What trash to just let the poor guy get crap that night? Just sad...

[MrAsudevil1997]

Steve Bartman made a mistake, but then again we all do, we are humans everybody makes mistakes. They need to forgive Bartman for this he doesn't deserve any of this shitty treatment

[SCARLEMSCARS]

Bartmans family must pay the ultimate sacrifice

[DisappearingBoy2010]

I think Buckner should win an award for best 'stache. You don't see much of those around anymore.

[buc555]

I guess if he wares contacts now and doesn't where a cubs hat, people probably wouldn't recognizes him.

[buc555]

Maybe Bartman should become a White Sox fan! :) Nah just kidding.

Seriously though how the hell does he live a normal life now? Especially if he still live in Chicago where everyone knows him. He should move somewhere where they don't play or watch baseball, like the UK.

[buc555]

"we forgive you"! Are you fucking serious, what the hell is there to forgive? He made the same kind of mistake every first baseman will make from time to time, he did nothing wrong.

He should be asked to forgive the fans for all the abuse they gave him.

[beergut09]

jim cuthbert...your a fucking idiot...throw a beer at me and see what happens...carma is a bad thing to mess with...hope u regret it!!!

[beergut09]

dane placko...your a terrible man!!!

[beergut09]

the fucking media...they make everything worse...thanks media...for fucking up peoples lives...the media can suck my fucking balls...fuck you!

[unique121884]

If u look at the end of this movie it is very symbolic u will see that alou makes the catch without interference and catches the ball not on the bleacher side of the railing or the field its in the middle. Watching the play closely u can c its a 50/50 ball bartman reached for the ball but it wasnt over the railing on the field so it never was interference according to those to idiots that came up with the bartman rule who just so happens to both be cub fans. Oh and gonzales booted an easy dble

[JJking5523]

I'm a cubs fan and I remember this moment like it was yesterday, it's easy for us to say we would've pushed the hands away but Steve just got a terrible break all I want to say is god bless u Steve and the best of luck to u and ur family

[cjwall77]

The guy who throws beer over him deserves a slap.

[bagss28]

what ever happened to steve bartman?

[bagss28]

it is not steves fault. he went for a foul ball just like any other fan would. leave this dude alone. i support you steve

[mdonley1973]

Tells how dumb people are over a Baseball game. All Cubs fans should be ashamed and they deserve to lose being this big of jerks to a poor young guy who basically was a nice man. I hope the Cubs go another 100 years of losing for being such Douche Bags

[Eric21ND]

I think the anger swelled because Bartman's demeanor made it look like he was oblivious to what transpired. I think the Minnesota Twins have the best fans in baseball, very respectful and even give standing ovations to opposing teams/players if they put on remarkable performances. They would've gave the guy a hug and a pat on the back, not thrown beer at him.

[Tankness420691]

@Eric21ND Yeah right it is hard to say what a whole fan base would given certain situations. I go to Cardinals games all the time and they claim to have the best/classiest fans in the world. And being a Cubs fans when I go to the games. I have left Busch being screamed and cursed at...Fans are short for fanatics. And aafter an intense Cubs/ Cardinals games classy they are not.

[aperez515]

I support you STEVE! Im A BART-MAN!!!!

[ovechkin651]

Not a Cubs fan, but hope they win the big one and someday Bartman throws out that first pitch of the season.

[Kngny2k]

Bartman is Bob Costas.

[kejsport]

HOW ironic that Dan Shaughnessy is in this video talking about Buckner... WOW just days after this video came out...Red Sox choke. FAIL

[FedMoos]

2003 - Cubs Choke in Epic Fashion, 4 outs away from the World Series

2004 - Red Sox Win World Series*

*first World Series since 1918 (86 years).

2005 - White Sox Win World Series

*first World Series since 1917 (88 years).

2006 - Cardinals Win World Series

* Cubs biggest intra-league rivalry and constant tormentor in the NL Central

2007 - Red Sox Win World Series (AGAIN!)

That's as rough a stretch for any one team's fans as history can produce. Epic failure and rivals winning it all...

[johnnyfive222]

@FedMoos

2011 Red sox complete the biggest Collapse in MLB history. Is Boston sure that the curse didn't get broken?

[TheStarkSide1]

Buckner is class, as he showed in the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode recently. I wasn't overly impressed with this doc, but Bartman's refusal to cash in is incredibly impressive and really unprecedented it would see.

[Ravenz4]

Anyone involved in this, from the fans to the media should be extremely disappointed in themselves, this is as disturbing as it gets. A mans life was ruined from attending a sports game to support his favorite team. Thumbs up if you support Steve Bartman

[spirojus]

@Ravenz4 Bartman should have known better as a baseball coach. Get your hands out of the way, you loser. I would have pelted him with food and anything else I could get my hands on.

[mjn76]

@Ravenz4 The newsmedia has no shame. None.

[SoutheGarden]

that wasn't even a mistake, this documentary explains well, nobody deserves this kind of torment.

[Sone1ne]

There was only 1 out at the time. So he makes the catch, you still have one more out. The whole thing could've still unwinded. But what makes it such a story is the big WHAT IF? And let's not forget, there was still one more inning left. The CUBS had two more outs, an entire inning and another game to put em away. They just failed, spectacularly. It happens.

[danimel2]

What bothers me the most about this that no one seems to talk about is Bartman's 2 friends sitting next to him especially the big guy who does nothing about him getting beer and stuff throw at him...what a loser punk! If i were Bartman id never speak to them again.

[Tankness420691]

@danimel2 I don't think you know what 40,000 irrate Cub Fans are capable of when you are only 3 people. Go ahead and retaliate. I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation....

[danimel2]

@Tankness420691 i dont know about you or the kind of people you hang out with and call friends, but speaking for myself and the type of person i am, i wouldnt care if lucifer and his hordes of demons were attacking my family or friend. Thats the way we do it here in brooklyn, im sorry but a few (not 40 thousand) punk ass drunk cubbie fans dont really make me shiver.

[Gforcebond]

@danimel2

what are they going to do? start throwing beer back? and get mugged by dozens of angry fans?

[danimel2]

@Gforcebond What is wrong with you people??? No disrespect but you sound like a punk. Im not saying that people should start trouble at baseball games but Bartman was being attacked verbally and physically. Both he and the people he was with, especially the big dude should have fought back. i dont care how many or how angry these fans were...man up people, lets stop talking like a bunch of sissy's.

[0r305]

@danimel2 I agree, I know my friends would have my back if someone threw beer on me. They just stood there like it was a normal thing. It makes me think that maybe they resented him. Maybe they turned their back on him after that play to protect their own asses. It is a damn shame.

[danimel2]

@0r305 it could have been any of those reasons but i honestly think they were chicken shit scared.

[InternetAesHole]

@danimel2 and they ditched him when they took him into that room and they wouldn't answer his phone either, fucking pricks.

[danimel2]

@InternetAesHole Yup...i left that part out.  Fucking pussies.

[acnumber7]

What a story.  Wow.

[cruzang10]

good moive



[dunskie]

Billy Bucks is a man.