@RealFreak69 Once you realize that repeating your claim that I am an idiot does not make it true, you'll realize that you continue to fail to refute anything I have said, further exhibiting to all that in fact - you are the idiot...
@RealFreak69 Declaring your opinion fact only demonstrates in actuality what an idiot you are. Thank you for revealing yourself to be an idiot so that further inane comments by you may be evaluated with your proven idiocy as the baseline...
So you claim that Fox News extended their coverage of a particular in order to vindicate themselves as news organization? Then why didn't they just address each of the claims about their ideological bias? Weird to suggest that a particular news organization went on to prove others wrong about their news bias by extending coverage when the claims have to do with past coverage. If I burned your house then I ought to be convicted of burning the house, not rewarded for extinguishing the flames.
@lookit87 Your analogy is senseless. They did not address each claim in the past for two reasons a least. Cost, and disbelief that other news organizations would actually be responsible for attacks against their credibility. The extensive coverage is due to the fact the story was getting attention, so the opportunity lent itself to the purpose. This is all so old though. NOW it has become obvious that the other networks are more biased. Matthews tingles, O'donnel is a socialist...
@marklross2 Why is my analogy senseless? What is the cost of addressing each claim? Do tell. No, I'm sorry disbelief does not discourage a media organization from vindicating themselves, after all if they truly weren't bias towards conservatism they would have no qualms doing so, I recall a CNN anchor doing just that for CNN;with little cost.
"The extensive coverage is due to the fact the story was getting attention, so the opportunity lent itself to the purpose." Then you contradict yourself.
@marklross2 Well, I don't disagree that MSNBC does have many Leftwing political commentators but that doesn't mean they are bias in delivering the news. The most bias I suppose they could have is sensationalist bias but that isn't any different from any other media outlet's goal. Having a certain political position or even stating an opinion does not mean you deliberately mismanage the distribution of information, a flawed assumption on your part.
@lookit87 No flaw on my part - on yours for not understanding that MSNBC is biased because ALL their commentators are left wing. MSNBC no longer presents both sides of the issues. They fail at journalism 101...
@marklross2 No, not all their commentators and you have yet to demonstrate that simply holding a political position means you deliberately distort information in order to make it seem as though your political ideology was superior to another. So unless you are willing to do that instead of repeating baseless assertions, this is going nowhere.
@lookit87 Well there's no arguing with an idiot. If you can't see that the political leanings of commentators like Keith Overblownman, Chris "Thrill up my leg" Matthews, and Lawrence "I'm a socialist" O'donnel lead them to distort their reporting, well - I needn't waste my time defending my statement of the OBVIOUS...
@marklross2 Name-calling is grade school mentality, find direct proof that they mismanage bits of information that they distribute then come talk to me about the liberal bias in the media. Let's apply your logic elsewhere, the government has a stranglehold over the substances we consume - some are illegal - right?Then all the statistics posted by the government concerning Drugs are negligible since they hold a position and thus have a vested interest to distort those stats, right? Wrong.
@lookit87 No name calling - just applying the proper label. The proof is broadcast everyday on msnbc. No doubt you will deny it - but you're a brainwashed true believer.
@marklross2 For a man your age, you seem very immature. You don't know the first thing about me, I don't even watch the News at all. lol I don't even consider myself a liberal! haha
Anyway, so you flunked my very simple requests and so this is farewell, buh-bye.
@lookit87 Yes - well I try to sink to the level of the opponent to better understand where they're coming from - so with you - well you said it. Well having proved nothing and made no sense - yes - slink away - I'm tired of wasting the energy it takes just to type answering you.
You cannot assume that ALL fox news viewers (some of whom are not fans) had already seen the Howard Dean clip in its entirety. you can assume that most regular fox news viewers (fans) had seen the full clip.
The 2 things I don't like about your videos that I like about liberal viewer's videos are:
1) Production value: Liberal viewer sounds better, and doesn't rely on that crappy black and white effect.
2) Regardless of whether or not Liberal viewer lies or not he doesn't put music in the background of his posts that makes you emotionally uneasy about what you see.
Just present the facts and we'll check them out on merit. I will say LV's last two posts have been pretty weak. FOX has way more spin.
No problem - people who think critically and are interested in the substance and truth of the message the video conveys don't obsess over production characteristics...
Yeah, people who think critically look at the entirety of the argument and ask questions about why people present the information the way they do. Hence the point about the music.
I don't concern myself with the truth of the message, just the facts.
"Liberal Viewer and others in the mainstream media"?
Liberal Viewer isn't a member of the mainstream media! He's a YouTube blogger! I've been watching LV for a while now, and while I don't always agree with him, I don't think he's some demigogue. Furthermore, your attacking him is a bit like Don Quixote jousting windmills. Except that since he's a youtuber, you aren't jousting windmills, so much as jousting pinwheels.
Just thought I'd try to insert some perspective in here. Have a nice day.
Thank you for your perspective - skewed that it is. I know Libby isn't mainstream media, hence the word OTHERS (non-inclusive). I also have no delusions of audience size. I am only interested in making sure Libby's sycophants, like yourself, get exposure to reality....
Like how Fox News viewers are better informed, despite polling that suggests they believe that WMD's were found in Iraq, Saddam helped Osama attack the US, etc etc.
Also, I watch his videos sometimes, I hardly think that makes my sycophantic. Hell, I've watched a few of yours now too. I just think that he can be kind of an ass, and you can be a bit of a dick. But at least he has some semblance of understanding of reality.
Quit watching Fox, and start reading real news, please. For America.
Fox news needs to be defending their credibility. Libby liar? Really? That sure is funny. It makes me wounder how much time you spent between thinking about your arguments and coming up with funny little quips.
You don't need a background in law to know what is right..I have watched many of his propagandist vids. He distorts, stretches truths and uses low tactics. My degree may just be in mechanical engineering, but it doesn't take finite element analysis to reveal the weakness in his misrepresentations...
I love how he thinks Howard Dean is HONEST. I remember seeing a clip of him saying "We tried capitalism for the past eight years, it's time for something new". I mean WTF? Sooo many things wrong with that.
@marklross2 Once you get to the point of accepting that you are an idiot, you will be able to see what is flawed in this video. It is that simple.
RealFreak69 4 months ago
@RealFreak69 Once you realize that repeating your claim that I am an idiot does not make it true, you'll realize that you continue to fail to refute anything I have said, further exhibiting to all that in fact - you are the idiot...
marklross2 4 months ago
@marklross2 Aww, look at you! Trying so hard to look smart. Well, just keep on trying, you'll get there one day.
RealFreak69 4 months ago
@RealFreak69 And another inane comment fails to address the subject matter of the video...
marklross2 4 months ago
@marklross2 Oh, it is not my opinion, it is a fact. Pity you can't see it.
RealFreak69 4 months ago
@RealFreak69 Declaring your opinion fact only demonstrates in actuality what an idiot you are. Thank you for revealing yourself to be an idiot so that further inane comments by you may be evaluated with your proven idiocy as the baseline...
marklross2 4 months ago
@marklross2 You sir, are an idiot.
RealFreak69 4 months ago
@RealFreak69 Your inaccurate opinion of me failed to refute the assertion of my video - ergo you fail...
marklross2 4 months ago
So you claim that Fox News extended their coverage of a particular in order to vindicate themselves as news organization? Then why didn't they just address each of the claims about their ideological bias? Weird to suggest that a particular news organization went on to prove others wrong about their news bias by extending coverage when the claims have to do with past coverage. If I burned your house then I ought to be convicted of burning the house, not rewarded for extinguishing the flames.
lookit87 1 year ago
@lookit87 Your analogy is senseless. They did not address each claim in the past for two reasons a least. Cost, and disbelief that other news organizations would actually be responsible for attacks against their credibility. The extensive coverage is due to the fact the story was getting attention, so the opportunity lent itself to the purpose. This is all so old though. NOW it has become obvious that the other networks are more biased. Matthews tingles, O'donnel is a socialist...
marklross2 1 year ago
@marklross2 Why is my analogy senseless? What is the cost of addressing each claim? Do tell. No, I'm sorry disbelief does not discourage a media organization from vindicating themselves, after all if they truly weren't bias towards conservatism they would have no qualms doing so, I recall a CNN anchor doing just that for CNN;with little cost.
"The extensive coverage is due to the fact the story was getting attention, so the opportunity lent itself to the purpose." Then you contradict yourself.
lookit87 1 year ago
@marklross2 Well, I don't disagree that MSNBC does have many Leftwing political commentators but that doesn't mean they are bias in delivering the news. The most bias I suppose they could have is sensationalist bias but that isn't any different from any other media outlet's goal. Having a certain political position or even stating an opinion does not mean you deliberately mismanage the distribution of information, a flawed assumption on your part.
lookit87 1 year ago
@lookit87 No flaw on my part - on yours for not understanding that MSNBC is biased because ALL their commentators are left wing. MSNBC no longer presents both sides of the issues. They fail at journalism 101...
marklross2 1 year ago
@marklross2 No, not all their commentators and you have yet to demonstrate that simply holding a political position means you deliberately distort information in order to make it seem as though your political ideology was superior to another. So unless you are willing to do that instead of repeating baseless assertions, this is going nowhere.
lookit87 1 year ago
@lookit87 Well there's no arguing with an idiot. If you can't see that the political leanings of commentators like Keith Overblownman, Chris "Thrill up my leg" Matthews, and Lawrence "I'm a socialist" O'donnel lead them to distort their reporting, well - I needn't waste my time defending my statement of the OBVIOUS...
marklross2 1 year ago
@marklross2 Name-calling is grade school mentality, find direct proof that they mismanage bits of information that they distribute then come talk to me about the liberal bias in the media. Let's apply your logic elsewhere, the government has a stranglehold over the substances we consume - some are illegal - right?Then all the statistics posted by the government concerning Drugs are negligible since they hold a position and thus have a vested interest to distort those stats, right? Wrong.
lookit87 1 year ago
@lookit87 No name calling - just applying the proper label. The proof is broadcast everyday on msnbc. No doubt you will deny it - but you're a brainwashed true believer.
marklross2 1 year ago
@marklross2 For a man your age, you seem very immature. You don't know the first thing about me, I don't even watch the News at all. lol I don't even consider myself a liberal! haha
Anyway, so you flunked my very simple requests and so this is farewell, buh-bye.
lookit87 1 year ago
@lookit87 Yes - well I try to sink to the level of the opponent to better understand where they're coming from - so with you - well you said it. Well having proved nothing and made no sense - yes - slink away - I'm tired of wasting the energy it takes just to type answering you.
marklross2 1 year ago
@lookit87 and Overblownman contributes to lefty campaigns.
marklross2 1 year ago
You cannot assume that ALL fox news viewers (some of whom are not fans) had already seen the Howard Dean clip in its entirety. you can assume that most regular fox news viewers (fans) had seen the full clip.
CHRISHAAAAAH 2 years ago
The 2 things I don't like about your videos that I like about liberal viewer's videos are:
1) Production value: Liberal viewer sounds better, and doesn't rely on that crappy black and white effect.
2) Regardless of whether or not Liberal viewer lies or not he doesn't put music in the background of his posts that makes you emotionally uneasy about what you see.
Just present the facts and we'll check them out on merit. I will say LV's last two posts have been pretty weak. FOX has way more spin.
phatsexxy70 2 years ago
I am not interested in your opinion about production characteristics...
marklross2 2 years ago
I figured you would be trying to make your videos liked by more people so you could get your message out. My bad.
phatsexxy70 2 years ago
No problem - people who think critically and are interested in the substance and truth of the message the video conveys don't obsess over production characteristics...
marklross2 2 years ago
Yeah, people who think critically look at the entirety of the argument and ask questions about why people present the information the way they do. Hence the point about the music.
I don't concern myself with the truth of the message, just the facts.
phatsexxy70 2 years ago
"Liberal Viewer and others in the mainstream media"?
Liberal Viewer isn't a member of the mainstream media! He's a YouTube blogger! I've been watching LV for a while now, and while I don't always agree with him, I don't think he's some demigogue. Furthermore, your attacking him is a bit like Don Quixote jousting windmills. Except that since he's a youtuber, you aren't jousting windmills, so much as jousting pinwheels.
Just thought I'd try to insert some perspective in here. Have a nice day.
TheNihonjin 2 years ago
Thank you for your perspective - skewed that it is. I know Libby isn't mainstream media, hence the word OTHERS (non-inclusive). I also have no delusions of audience size. I am only interested in making sure Libby's sycophants, like yourself, get exposure to reality....
marklross2 2 years ago
Like how Fox News viewers are better informed, despite polling that suggests they believe that WMD's were found in Iraq, Saddam helped Osama attack the US, etc etc.
Also, I watch his videos sometimes, I hardly think that makes my sycophantic. Hell, I've watched a few of yours now too. I just think that he can be kind of an ass, and you can be a bit of a dick. But at least he has some semblance of understanding of reality.
Quit watching Fox, and start reading real news, please. For America.
TheNihonjin 2 years ago
unfunny quips
manbitesdog1 2 years ago
you got a creepy face, look in a mirror you freak
sjcpal 2 years ago
It goes to show how far someone will go to make reality match his perspective.
shattersidvik 2 years ago
Indeed...
marklross2 2 years ago
Fox news needs to be defending their credibility. Libby liar? Really? That sure is funny. It makes me wounder how much time you spent between thinking about your arguments and coming up with funny little quips.
badfish4311 2 years ago
Not much...exposing obvious lies is easy....
marklross2 2 years ago
Much less lies than your misinterpretation of what he's trying to say.
badfish4311 2 years ago
There is no misinterpretation. I used his literal words verbatim...
marklross2 2 years ago
Your interpretation=/=what he means.
You're taking what he's saying out of context and misunderstanding him.
badfish4311 2 years ago
oh - you mean like what he does to Fox in everyone of his videos...
marklross2 2 years ago
Except for the fact that Fox really is the most biast new network out there.
Have you acctually ever watched any of his videos?
Oh and he has a backround in law, What do you have?
badfish4311 2 years ago
You don't need a background in law to know what is right..I have watched many of his propagandist vids. He distorts, stretches truths and uses low tactics. My degree may just be in mechanical engineering, but it doesn't take finite element analysis to reveal the weakness in his misrepresentations...
marklross2 2 years ago
Well using tje work propagandist to DEFEND fox is a new one.
Such a great way to go about carring on an argument to discreadit him, but can you acctually defend things fox says and does?
badfish4311 2 years ago
Defense of Fox is only a secondary result of simply exposing libby's lies....
marklross2 2 years ago
I love how he thinks Howard Dean is HONEST. I remember seeing a clip of him saying "We tried capitalism for the past eight years, it's time for something new". I mean WTF? Sooo many things wrong with that.
hanzo138 2 years ago
So right...what will he say next?
marklross2 2 years ago
That pretty much sums it up.
spanky061970 2 years ago
Yeah - take your pick...
marklross2 2 years ago