this appears to neglect that these newer processes are hijacking ecological and natural evolution as well as does not consider how eating foods that grow in a day may have consequences of compromising your physiological development. much like eating antibiotic induced live stock compromises your relationship with antibiotics... then again im sure they are thinking the poor r the perfect guinea pigs.. there are many other methods and regional applications which can help with food ie: permaculture
@lllraverslll you tried changing the subject from whether or not gmo is good to some incoherent statement about ronald reagan lol you are fucking stupid.
Combining "business" and "ethics" in the same expression is to be assured that you get a perfect cancelation of terms - a meaning less concept. They are opposing forces.
Yes. Idiots of this video. Please tell the billions of people GM foods have saved that it's bad and poison. Tell the rural farmers who can now double their output on the same amount of land why we should go back to stone age farming that would drastically decrease their output and their lifespan. Sometimes you just wish you could trade in someone to bring back people like Borlaug for a bit longer.
@endauthority The retard comment is telling on you maturity level. Aside from that it takes a special person to say films aren't evidence. Even when speaking "in a scientific context". Video/film evidence my not be conclusive but it's still evidence. Please engage reality a little more.
@JoseL786 name a single scientific theory that has been established via film, you uneducated twit.
film isnt evidence, its subject to doctoring, and in addition, scientific evidence is academic, with lots of math and empirical proof. you are dumb as shit, read a science book. film evidence would get you laughed out of any serious science class or organization for good reason. you might as well use anecdotes. shit for brains.
@JoseL786 i actually read you loud and clear, the problem is that you dont know how evidence is conducted in science. which is why you brought up murder instead of biology. you stupid piece of shit.
@endauthority Then please point out in my comment where I said the film is a replacement for the scientific method. All I said the film is a form of evidence and can and is used in the scientific process. And for the second time Video/film evidence may not be conclusive but it's still evidence.
@JoseL786 the first comment you made was about a scientific topic, but you responded as if it were a court case(hence you bringing up murder)
Theres no two ways about it, you're a fucking idiot of the highest order.
"it takes a special person to say films aren't evidence. Even when speaking "in a scientific context"."
Film is never used for the natural sciences. Sorry, but you fucked up and are trying to find a way to weasel out of it. The sooner you admit it, the sooner youll feel better :)
@endauthority answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AppBQi6KIm4pJUSU.v_ylG4azKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20110815210038AAavPi1 I put it up on yahoo answers to let the public decide.
Wouldn't this use a lot of electricity? I'd rather have my food grow outside or in a greenhouse. But genetic modification is cool and I think it would be nice if we could grow meat in a petri dish.
@jacknewt actually, its YOUR mind thats under attack. theres NO evidence to suggest GMO is dangerous for consumption, but you decided to go along with paranoid conspiracy theories anyway, because they made an EMOTIONALLY satisfying argument, as opposed to a logical one
@endauthority a tomato that grows in a day, we are not talking about the gm you are thinking about any longer. Another issue is do you really want companies to own food? eg monsanto and soy
@endauthority well thats one issue you need to address, the other is he says a tomato that grows in a day, we are not dealling with the food that is currently modified, would you be willing to consume what he is discussing? that being said we basically dont know what we are eating anymore, even meat... doesnt come to us looking like the animal it once was, most people dont even know what nature is like... so why not just grow it in a dish
@endauthority I don't think its that its dangerous for consumption its the monopoly that GMO manufacturers have on their product thats the real issue. [At least thats how I see it, i'm sure some people might think its dangerous but like you said, little/no evidence for that.]
@SecularMentat One of the reasons there's litte/no evidence, is that virtually no systematic research has been done on potential health impacts. The little research that has been done is ambiguous. The assertion of "substantial equivalence" means that the regulatory process has been effectively bypassed. So, GMOs may indeed be harmless, or even beneficial, but no-one actually knows.
@aido92 Which is why i'd say that the harmful to people isn't actually the problem from GMO's. That part is pretty cleanly fine at this point. Its the crushing the farmers under their thumbs thats the real issue. Especially that whole patented Genome BS, as well as cross-pollenation and people getting their crops taken away garbage. the safety isn't really the issue i'd have with GMO's at all its the business ethic.
@endauthority actually...your ignorant as hell. if u would do any research and not trust the corporate media u would see the gmos are potentialy harmful. they can cause new allergens, increase toxicity, resist antibiotics, and the nutritional value goes down so get your facts straight.
@onelovesmker you're*, i DO do research, and I dont trust corporations because im a socialist.
everything in nature is potentially harmful, all life can create new allergens, theres no evidence they increase toxicity(nice ambiguous claim there), all life resists antibiotics, just look at bacteria, the nutritional vale would be set for what we want it to be, as opposed to normal factory farming that actually DOES reduce a plants nutrients due to soil erosion
@endauthority No evidence does not mean evidence that disproves it is dangerous. Do you know how long here was 'no evidence' that smoking is bad? That fried food is bad? That those pills that caused birth defects were bad? Keep believing the greedy corporations, but at your own peril.
@endauthority What are you even talking about? Im saying evidence will not be found because nobody is looking for it and if someone does find some they will be quieted. And then I listed examples of this going on in the recent past. You reply to that with some sort of universal statement, which isnt even true. Ironic that your user name is 'end authority', but you are completely caving to the pseudo-science authorities.
@doutonight theres no evidence to suggest scientists are being forced to shut up, and science is constantly searching for answers, including harmful effects of food. Thats kind of an important role in our food regulations.
you are an idiot. you ONLY judge arguments by their emotional appeal to you.
@endauthority First of all, scientists don't just "do science", they are hired to research specific things. If nobody hires them to regulate food, they won't do it. Secondly, who decides food regulations? Politicians, not scientists. And politicians are affected mostly by lobbyists. Also, you failed to provide reasons why non-gmo foods would have an emotional appeal. You didn't provide any arguments, but appear to be quite angry at me. Seems to me you are judging me ONLY by emotional appeal.
@endauthority If you think any government agency is independent you are the worst kind of sheep. Secondly, FDA doesn't make laws, it only enforces them. Again, who makes the laws? Try to think this time, you brain dead imbecile. You are disgusting. You are the problem of today's world, you are a blind obidient sheep, yet you think you are impartial, reasonable, and just follow the evidence. You keep insulting me and trying to discredit me, but have no substantial arguments. You are filth.
@endauthority That doesn't guarantee independence, nor does it prevent lobbyists from pushing policy. Again you failed to deal with my arguments. And calling this a conspiracy theory? You have shown what na utter babbling idiot you are. Go eat some deep fried mars bars now
@doutonight my point remains. They are not a political organization. Go eat organic food that has no benefit LOL you conspiracy sheep. Youll believe anything, as long as it sounds cool or scary lolol. You dont need evidence to make claims.... WHAT A RETARD LOL
We the seven billion of Earth want nothing but Peace, Love and Light on Earth always.We want the END of ALL WAR on this planet and the end of the NUCLEAR NIGHTMARE.
Official First Contact and the end of the TRUTH EMBARGO will soon be here
Michael Moore speaks for the compassionate HEART of AMERICA NOW
Love and protect Earth and her precious Air, Water and Soil by all means
Help us ban HYDRO FRACKING Worldwide as this poisons Trillions of gallons of fresh water 4 all generations.
this appears to neglect that these newer processes are hijacking ecological and natural evolution as well as does not consider how eating foods that grow in a day may have consequences of compromising your physiological development. much like eating antibiotic induced live stock compromises your relationship with antibiotics... then again im sure they are thinking the poor r the perfect guinea pigs.. there are many other methods and regional applications which can help with food ie: permaculture
Th3Wab3 6 months ago
The Zeitgeist Movement has been talking about this technology for years.
QuantumGh0st 6 months ago
more like using hydro-ponics to grow weed
UncertainTruth 6 months ago
great!...GM Foods for GM Peoples!...this klown figured it out!
FOBmzunguREPTILICUS 6 months ago
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lllraverslll 6 months ago
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lllraverslll 6 months ago
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lllraverslll 6 months ago
@lllraverslll you tried changing the subject from whether or not gmo is good to some incoherent statement about ronald reagan lol you are fucking stupid.
endauthority 6 months ago
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lllraverslll 6 months ago
Whenever I use hydroponics I just get hungrier.
tabber87 6 months ago
Combining "business" and "ethics" in the same expression is to be assured that you get a perfect cancelation of terms - a meaning less concept. They are opposing forces.
The34gl3 6 months ago
I'm looking forward to the super-efficient LED lights for cutting my electric bill.
ndrthrdr1 6 months ago
what a load of bulls***
LSD616 6 months ago
Yes. Idiots of this video. Please tell the billions of people GM foods have saved that it's bad and poison. Tell the rural farmers who can now double their output on the same amount of land why we should go back to stone age farming that would drastically decrease their output and their lifespan. Sometimes you just wish you could trade in someone to bring back people like Borlaug for a bit longer.
LibertarianINT 6 months ago
Using what is created with most current hydroponics it would lead to even more global hunger.
This is a joke.
Totallydistortedfilm 6 months ago
What are these people smoking? A tomato growing in a day.....
Sm1vvy 6 months ago
Wow, fresh grapes in my fridge at all times......HURRY UP!!!!
TheViolentBuddha 6 months ago 2
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lllraverslll 6 months ago
What? A presentation within a presentation?
B O R E C E P T I O N
Phelan666 6 months ago 7
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jacknewt 6 months ago
@jacknewt Prove that its poison, using verified, peer reviewed science. Films arent evidence, sorry.
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority Films aren't evidence? So if I film you killing someone it doesn't count as evidence?
JoseL786 6 months ago
@JoseL786 Hey retard, were talking about science. In a scientific context, no films arent evidence. Please engage reality a little more
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority The retard comment is telling on you maturity level. Aside from that it takes a special person to say films aren't evidence. Even when speaking "in a scientific context". Video/film evidence my not be conclusive but it's still evidence. Please engage reality a little more.
JoseL786 6 months ago
@JoseL786 name a single scientific theory that has been established via film, you uneducated twit.
film isnt evidence, its subject to doctoring, and in addition, scientific evidence is academic, with lots of math and empirical proof. you are dumb as shit, read a science book. film evidence would get you laughed out of any serious science class or organization for good reason. you might as well use anecdotes. shit for brains.
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority It's has now become obvious that you can't read... so I'm done, enjoy your ignorance.
JoseL786 6 months ago
@JoseL786 i actually read you loud and clear, the problem is that you dont know how evidence is conducted in science. which is why you brought up murder instead of biology. you stupid piece of shit.
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority Then please point out in my comment where I said the film is a replacement for the scientific method. All I said the film is a form of evidence and can and is used in the scientific process. And for the second time Video/film evidence may not be conclusive but it's still evidence.
JoseL786 6 months ago
@JoseL786 the first comment you made was about a scientific topic, but you responded as if it were a court case(hence you bringing up murder)
Theres no two ways about it, you're a fucking idiot of the highest order.
"it takes a special person to say films aren't evidence. Even when speaking "in a scientific context"."
Film is never used for the natural sciences. Sorry, but you fucked up and are trying to find a way to weasel out of it. The sooner you admit it, the sooner youll feel better :)
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AppBQi6KIm4pJUSU.v_ylG4azKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20110815210038AAavPi1 I put it up on yahoo answers to let the public decide.
JoseL786 6 months ago
@JoseL786 truth is not determined by voting, retard
endauthority 6 months ago
lol - "doing without even thinking.." - nothing new, is already in practice worldwide.
Umbalafum 6 months ago
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lllraverslll 6 months ago
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nothings perfect but it's FAR better then someone on their knees....
omnigear1975 6 months ago
Wouldn't this use a lot of electricity? I'd rather have my food grow outside or in a greenhouse. But genetic modification is cool and I think it would be nice if we could grow meat in a petri dish.
BizWiz2000 6 months ago
genetic modification is "cool" ?? Wake up, your mind is under attack
jacknewt 6 months ago
@jacknewt actually, its YOUR mind thats under attack. theres NO evidence to suggest GMO is dangerous for consumption, but you decided to go along with paranoid conspiracy theories anyway, because they made an EMOTIONALLY satisfying argument, as opposed to a logical one
endauthority 6 months ago 16
@endauthority a tomato that grows in a day, we are not talking about the gm you are thinking about any longer. Another issue is do you really want companies to own food? eg monsanto and soy
lagook 6 months ago
@lagook nothing youve said makes any sense. is english your first language?
No I dont want companies to own food (they already do...) capitalism is a bad economic system
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority well thats one issue you need to address, the other is he says a tomato that grows in a day, we are not dealling with the food that is currently modified, would you be willing to consume what he is discussing? that being said we basically dont know what we are eating anymore, even meat... doesnt come to us looking like the animal it once was, most people dont even know what nature is like... so why not just grow it in a dish
lagook 6 months ago
@endauthority sorry i shouldnt say you, i mean WE need to, all of us
lagook 6 months ago
@endauthority I don't think its that its dangerous for consumption its the monopoly that GMO manufacturers have on their product thats the real issue. [At least thats how I see it, i'm sure some people might think its dangerous but like you said, little/no evidence for that.]
SecularMentat 6 months ago
@SecularMentat One of the reasons there's litte/no evidence, is that virtually no systematic research has been done on potential health impacts. The little research that has been done is ambiguous. The assertion of "substantial equivalence" means that the regulatory process has been effectively bypassed. So, GMOs may indeed be harmless, or even beneficial, but no-one actually knows.
aido92 6 months ago
@aido92 Which is why i'd say that the harmful to people isn't actually the problem from GMO's. That part is pretty cleanly fine at this point. Its the crushing the farmers under their thumbs thats the real issue. Especially that whole patented Genome BS, as well as cross-pollenation and people getting their crops taken away garbage. the safety isn't really the issue i'd have with GMO's at all its the business ethic.
SecularMentat 6 months ago
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The34gl3 6 months ago
@endauthority actually...your ignorant as hell. if u would do any research and not trust the corporate media u would see the gmos are potentialy harmful. they can cause new allergens, increase toxicity, resist antibiotics, and the nutritional value goes down so get your facts straight.
onelovesmker 6 months ago
@onelovesmker you're*, i DO do research, and I dont trust corporations because im a socialist.
everything in nature is potentially harmful, all life can create new allergens, theres no evidence they increase toxicity(nice ambiguous claim there), all life resists antibiotics, just look at bacteria, the nutritional vale would be set for what we want it to be, as opposed to normal factory farming that actually DOES reduce a plants nutrients due to soil erosion
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority read for yourself: DOI: 10.1146/annurev.ento.47.091201.145309
tremulent 6 months ago
@endauthority No evidence does not mean evidence that disproves it is dangerous. Do you know how long here was 'no evidence' that smoking is bad? That fried food is bad? That those pills that caused birth defects were bad? Keep believing the greedy corporations, but at your own peril.
doutonight 6 months ago
@doutonight without evidence, theres no reason to justify anything.
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority What are you even talking about? Im saying evidence will not be found because nobody is looking for it and if someone does find some they will be quieted. And then I listed examples of this going on in the recent past. You reply to that with some sort of universal statement, which isnt even true. Ironic that your user name is 'end authority', but you are completely caving to the pseudo-science authorities.
doutonight 6 months ago
@doutonight theres no evidence to suggest scientists are being forced to shut up, and science is constantly searching for answers, including harmful effects of food. Thats kind of an important role in our food regulations.
you are an idiot. you ONLY judge arguments by their emotional appeal to you.
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority First of all, scientists don't just "do science", they are hired to research specific things. If nobody hires them to regulate food, they won't do it. Secondly, who decides food regulations? Politicians, not scientists. And politicians are affected mostly by lobbyists. Also, you failed to provide reasons why non-gmo foods would have an emotional appeal. You didn't provide any arguments, but appear to be quite angry at me. Seems to me you are judging me ONLY by emotional appeal.
doutonight 6 months ago
@doutonight the FDA is independent of politics, retard
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority If you think any government agency is independent you are the worst kind of sheep. Secondly, FDA doesn't make laws, it only enforces them. Again, who makes the laws? Try to think this time, you brain dead imbecile. You are disgusting. You are the problem of today's world, you are a blind obidient sheep, yet you think you are impartial, reasonable, and just follow the evidence. You keep insulting me and trying to discredit me, but have no substantial arguments. You are filth.
doutonight 6 months ago
@doutonight They are independent of politics because nobody votes for who is part of the FDA, you illiterate conspiracy sheep.
endauthority 6 months ago
@endauthority That doesn't guarantee independence, nor does it prevent lobbyists from pushing policy. Again you failed to deal with my arguments. And calling this a conspiracy theory? You have shown what na utter babbling idiot you are. Go eat some deep fried mars bars now
doutonight 6 months ago
@doutonight my point remains. They are not a political organization. Go eat organic food that has no benefit LOL you conspiracy sheep. Youll believe anything, as long as it sounds cool or scary lolol. You dont need evidence to make claims.... WHAT A RETARD LOL
endauthority 6 months ago
We the seven billion of Earth want nothing but Peace, Love and Light on Earth always.We want the END of ALL WAR on this planet and the end of the NUCLEAR NIGHTMARE.
Official First Contact and the end of the TRUTH EMBARGO will soon be here
Michael Moore speaks for the compassionate HEART of AMERICA NOW
Love and protect Earth and her precious Air, Water and Soil by all means
Help us ban HYDRO FRACKING Worldwide as this poisons Trillions of gallons of fresh water 4 all generations.
OnenessNow 6 months ago 2
@OnenessNow
Are you sure?
We all want peace?
I don't think so at all!
How come the goal of half the population of the earth is having as much kids as possible?
Does that mean they want peace?
No! They want to spread the world, they want to spread their primitive religions throughout the world.
You are going to stop them? Of course not, you are humanists!
The only thing you will do is help them survive and grow more rapidly!
Spend money to Somalia! Really?
malsifood 6 months ago
@malsifood Engage the HEART and see through the ILLUSION.
OnenessNow 6 months ago
@OnenessNow
I am not closing the eyes from evil!
Go on sleeping, and keep on being an ignorant!
malsifood 6 months ago
Hydroponics are a good solution...
FelipeZucchetti 6 months ago
sounds good
TheSyrupMan 6 months ago