2009 Korg WaveDrum WD-X Performance and Sound Examples

[andrekkezero]

I like this new toy...

[bennyb4]

The only thing i wish is that it was a controller and a sampler........ hmmm maybe there is a way to convert it to midi but a usb out would be nice. any one know of anything like this but for controlling vsts or uas

[vladimire82]

I'm sorry I just don't see the point of this......even at $600 it seems like a toy even a seasoned drummer would use for 2 weeks then just get tired of.

[smokinjoe45]

@vladimire82

I've been a percussionist and bad keyboard player for years now. I bought a wavedrum and it's incredible. Don't look at it as a replacement for anything. For me, it's a new instrument and the ideas it inspires are endless.

[bolijack]

@vladimire82 You dont see the point? Well, you must be blind :-((

[J0rdanguitar]

yes!! just ordered mine... cannot wait!

[JohnBertotti]

What stands can it use? Can I use a 14 inch snare stand? Is the Korg stand very stable. Some of the videos it seems the stand wiggles a good bit. I want the most solid one I can use without it interfering with the instrument. Thanks for the help!

[AltayGENC]

... on the other hand, MIDI OUT singals could be used to trigger another drum or sample sound to achive the variaties beyond the capability of the machine.

at least midi out should be included as an option.

[BudgeBurnley]

i think the fact that midi is not included is a good thing because it makes it more like an instrument, and stops you from quantizing everything and making it less organic. If you do need to improve timing a bit, these days most DAWS have good audio flexing or warping anyway.

[rikkox1]

that is a drummers favourite toy

[mmaier2112]

Looks great but $600?

[shaft9000]

@mmaier2112 the original Wavedrum Korg made in the 90's was $3K and still holds most of it's value

[603Crawler]

@mmaier2112

The original Wave Drum was $2,000 and they easily sell for 3 times that now if you can find one...Korg only produced 800 of them world wide.

6 beans is a fair price for an instrument of this quality and considering what it's capable of.

[eckenschneck]

In diesem Film konnte ich nur wenige Unterschiede zur WD1 beobachten.

[JerryVmika2]

Im a guitar player and I want one of these, the

percussive applications are endless.

[tngregory]

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke I received mine today. This feels like magic to me.

[HeartaQ]

It's more like what you don't understand is magic. It's like with any magic trick. Once you know how the trick works it doesn't feel like magic anymore. And I'm jealous 'cos I want one too, but can't afford. :(

[JerryVmika2]

@HeartaQ Any Idea what they cost. I know Korg

sold these a few years back.

[HeartaQ]

About 400 €  from what I know. You should just google that stuff. :)

[mmaier2112]

Just Googled right now and it's all $600 US.

[fuzzpedal0101]

I'm glad this thing doesn't have midi.

[fixtwix]

why?

[tablaninja]

Well, here's one tabla player who must have one for each hand! Holy Crap when can I get one of these!!!!

[gordrum]

as soon as it's available I'm all over it! I just wish it had a kick trigger input : (

[tngregory]

no midi. that's just a bizarre omission.

[newtonlkh]

But it seems it's impossible to translate all those details like attack type, position, pressure into midi. I've read that it have piezo pickups inside, just like some electric guitars... i think they use the piezo signal to modulate the acoustic modelling??

[mrtvi46]

There's no problem to translate it to midi. It's all in the triggers.

[mrtvi46]

If the wavedrum can register, process and recognize the difference between a stick or a brush (which it obviously can), it's also definitely possible to turn that into midi control values. The communication between the drum surface and sound generator is already there. Each hit is turned into binary code which can be translated to midi control values. Maybe it requires many midi controls at once, but that is very possible!

[mrtvi46]

(Cont.) Now, midi can register 127 values for EACH of these midi controls simultaneously. The only real problem is how much midi data a midi channel can transmit. But I have stuff that can transmit on many channels at the same time. If the 3 sensors can convert audio into generated sound, it can obviously convert it into midi as well. So while the WD is advanced and processes a lot more audio info than ONE midi control could handle, it is possible for a bunch to do that. (Cont 2)

[mrtvi46]

(Cont 2). My Machinedrum has a "midi base channel" that consists of 4 midi channels. It receives midi on all 4 to handle the massive stream of signals required to control loads of parameters available in up to 16 sounds per drumkit. So even if the WD DSP is very advanced, midi _could_ do the job. Perhaps not 100%, but good enough. I apologize for claiming that this is "all in the triggers", because it's actually a matter of midi implementation; admitted it would be different from the norm.

[mrtvi46]

Did you read it all? :) My conclusion is that it is still very possible to make midi work with WD, since it could send and receive enough midi values by combining many midi controls on more than one midi channel. Meaning that several continous controllers operating simultaneously on several channels could transmit enough midi data. The DSP can convert the audio input to data and generate sounds, so the conversion is already happening. Btw, pitch bend can have up to 16000 steps. (Thank you 2!)

[LukeSock]

That was wonderful, thanks for the info!

Do you think they might find some sort of software implementation of it, or do you think we'd have to wait for another wavedrum to come out to implement midi? I really hope midi is in the future for this product!

[mrtvi46]

Sorry LukeSock. I think you have to wait for another WD. The discussion was purely hypothetical. I think it _could_ be done, though.

But I agree, midi would make the WD 100% kickass! :D

[mrtvi46]

It depends on midi implementation. It would obviously not work with the kind of implementation that is used with an ordinary keyboard, pedal, pads on a sampler or a touch pad (like the Kaoss Pad etc). But notice the difference between the three. Various keyboard and pedal manouvers can be translated into many different midi values. On my DSI MEK I can transmit trigger, velocity, pitch bend, mod wheel, pressure, pedal and turn knobs. (Continued)

[shabbee]

I can see that this product is gonna be a massive hit for Korg. I don't know any other electronic drum that can translate the player's technique in such a way as this does. WOW Korg!!

[papabravo63]

A real drum with acoustic properties. This makes the Roland Handsonic look like a toy. At £400 every percussion player will want one.

[tepposal]

Ahh!

Korg finally re made it. A new version of the legendary wavedrum.

This time I shall have it!

[jaygodin]

Want It!

[swillie30]

Fabulous Darling!!