you got to remember, its a auto mustang! has bad launches cuz the stall on the torque convertor is only about 1700 rpm, way too low. put a 2500 or 3000 stall in there, which is near max torque, and lose .5-1.0 sec off the 1/4 mile. theres also more power lost through that auto trans, 15% est manual, 20% auto. but if you want to make a strip only car, auto is the best.
Stop aruguing about foxbodys. Their is not alot they can beat stock or even with a mild H/C/I setup. Foxbodys look and sound great but have no power to back it up. The best thing you can do to a fox is look in the aftermarket for a longblock swap or if you want to keep it Ford a nice 351w should give it some bite. 220hp (or however much, still sucks) doesn't cut it. A honda H22 makes that stock as well (I'm not a Honda boy, just know about honads). Great chassis, poor powerplant.
Wrong...you guys need to learn your freaking mustang history on here. The 85 GT had 210 hp, the 86 GT had 200 hp and actually were the quickest foxbody 5.0 made next to the 93 cobra's. the 87-92 GT/LX 5.0 put down 225hp while the 93 GT's put down 205. The 87 GT's were the best for mods. But in stock trim straight from the factory the 86 GT's were known to have run mid to low 14's...That's incredible for a car in the mid 80's....all for around 8-10k brand new.
@jobinblow Automatic 5.0 mustangs only run 14.7's in the 1/4 mile..they run like shit..If you get a 5.0, you need a 5 speed, there a whole nother world next to the automatic..the 5 speeds destroy auto 5.0's..My stock 2011 hemi ram 4x4 quad cab runs 14.58's in the 1/4 mile..I beat my buddys mint condition garage kept 5.0 AOD mustang all day long..Now, the 5 speed on the other hand..he rapes my truck..
Race grade? HUH? How about running some engine cleaner through the system and giving it new rings and bearings and new plugs and other typical tune up items. Heads and cam and 3.73's
@cskater18 The speed has traction control, and i own a 88 5.0, the stock suspension is extremely unpredictable and loves to spin. you put a good set of traction bars on there and some good street tires and that 5.0 would smoke that speed3 up to about 110 or so.
@1built9ford9tough5 I drive a 4.6 stang, so I wouldnt know I guess, I was just surprised because most Mustang's I've driven launch pretty damn nicely.
@cskater18 The 4.6 launch better. when ford came out with the fox body, they tried a new suspension set up. it used a "quadshock" to stabilize the rear end under load. this was great for ride quality, problem is, they let the rear end move too much. that along with soft rubber bushings allows WAY too much movement. it makes the rear end spin ruthlessly and tend to want to wash out in hard cornering.
@cskater18 5.0 is old bud... ye its a quick car but remember this stang is most likly only pumping out 250+/- Hp
not to mention its got tall gears from the factory. both in the tranny and the Diff, and a full frame design (heavy)
take that mustang, run some race Grade cleaner through that tired engine, replace all sparkplugs, wires, injectors, most lickly replace some of the gasket seals cuz their probably toast. and put 3:73 Diff Gears and that mustang would perform wayyyyy better.
@CemetaryGatesML Thanks "bud" for explaining to a mustang owner how to mod a mustang and adding the fact that this 80's car is old. Learn how to spell cock sucker.
i strongly recomend opening a window and lettinf in tome fresh air into that shed...cuz you know...thats were tools like you belong, i would asume its quite sad in there... anyways. ttyl fuckface :)
Give the mazdaspeed its due!.Its one of (if not) the fastest FWD cars out there. I have a mazda 3 S sport (no turbo) and besides the lack of power it handles really nice! Now, where can I find a crashes mazdaspeed drive train? LOL
@b18c5turbo back in 84- I saw the 1st NINJA! I thought ' Man I would love to have one- I'll never be able to afford one". In 86 I traded my KZ 750 for a 'crashed' 84 ninja w/1100 miles. It was 'Written off'. found original owner! Taborinee Sararree or something?wierd name.He (for $100) gave me the title he still had.REGISTERED it! Mark aka BOGART from competition cycle in dania beach florida gave me ALL the pieces I needed! (I traded to him) It was AWESOME! Never forget that feeling 1st ride!
@MrBarnz92 HAMMERED!!?? :P I should get the numbers 1st ha? LOL But Im not that into FWD cars.I know a MS3 can run 14.4 or a lil quicker stock, so if there are other FWD's that are faster, cool. I did say 'ITS ONE OF' (if not) the fastest FWD cars out there.So I wasnt 100% sure.
@arcosfidel A 5.0 with bolt ons, on street tires, is a mid 13 sec car at best. The speed 3, is a ~14 sec car bone stock and some have managed to pull 13.8s stock.
So for it to be that close, he probably didnt suck.
Honestly neither car is what anyone should consider fast.
I've had my 08 MS3 since it first hit the showroom floor and I've dusted every stock mustang I ran with since. I haven't run a well modded one, but a couple bolt on's I have beat. (intake/exhaust) They are defiantly faster post 1/4 in many cases, but my speed just appears to have more low end umph than stock or lightly modded mustang's I've run so far. I only have CAI.
@SGTRandyB Every stock or lightly modified MS3 i've seen at the local strip has trapped 96 mph. I have a 5.0 notch with a very mild cam, stock iron Explorer heads, Edelbrock intake and short tube headers- very mild setup- and I trap 106. That's 10 mph more.... I paid $800 for my car and another $1500 for everything else that's been done to it. How much does an MS3 cost? Yea no thanks waste of money.
@gtdrummerdude Very true lol i spent 500 for my 92 camaro 350 head stock. Dropping an ls1 in it now so cant really say much about saving money and good quality anymore lol
@faststang02 yeah 260 to the wheels stock, I'm running about 400hp right now, bit I agree the new 5.0 is sick, I miss all my old mustangs and I will eventually get a new cobra. But as far as traction I have a lot of wheel hop and torque steer and it's quite annoying lol
@killbillet420 my gfs ex tried to start shit by sending me a vid of a ms3 outrunning a old 5.0 cuz ive got a new one. i whooped his bitch ass. that new 5.0 engine is nothing to mess around with its got some nasty power and with just a few bolt ons it runs less that 10s on a 1/4. i mean stock for stock the 2011 5.0 makes 413hp roughly and a stock ms3 is what? 260-270? hahaha. traction would go to the ms3 cuz fwd but all 5.0 from there.
@faststang02 lol yeah the new ones are def nothing to mess with, the mazda does put out 260 to the wheels on a dyno, more to the motor but you know how all that works, the last time i dynoed my car was in oklahoma and it was 400 i live in colorado so with the elevation in prob at 350. but like I said hopefully by the end of the summer ill have all my parts put me a little over 400 idk if i want to go more but it would be nice haha
@killbillet420 thats pretty damn good for a ms3. wich same goes with the evo and sti's the are like 2.0L and 2.3 or 2.4L and they make can make some killer power yet its awd.
Man I can't believe that MS3 walked on that Fox like that. Impressive. Put a super on that 5.0 and some better shoes and I think that would have ended differently, though. In retrospect, though, I've owned a couple fox's and my Dakota 2wd with the lightly modded 5.2 Magnum it has would have blown the doors off my fox chassis...
Also forgetting since this was a down hill the 4cyl turbo is at an advantage, try the same race uphill and you'll see the the fox pull ahead and most likely even on a flat road with better tires on fox. Looks like a cold day and worn tires.
@svtlincoln. Rofl. You probably posted under a different account and answered yourself.lol. Even if not, you are doing the same thing you fucking retard. You still kill me. And thank you for clearing up that i did't say anything about fuel injection starting in the 80's again retard. As far as the old ZR1 it is the rarest vette made and costed over $60k back in 91 and the calloway edition which ended halfway through 91 costed even more. Yes that is a joke just as you are.
@silverspeedthree learn english please. Costed? it costed? wow great grammar there expert. I only have one YouTube account unlike yourself. I don't have to have multiple accounts because unlike you I'm not a complete douche who still sucks on his momma's tit every night. well goodnight, I have a job to go to in the morning. what time does your shift at mcdonald's start? I know you janitors have some odd hours.
Honestly how pathetic does silverspeedthree sound on here? Get a life and stop fighting on youtube. Better yet try and find some friends .. you know .. real people.
@svtlincoln. Lol, i thought you tucked your tail and walked away like you said before. Your retardedness is really showing now, this is a mobile account.(mobile meaning phone just in case you didn't understand) I also don't understand where i wrote that vettes went fuel injected in the 80's, scroll down a little retard it isn't there. You tell me to hang myself? lol. Man you kill me, please keep responding its hilarious. Retard.
@silverspeedthree The vettes from the 80's all the way up to the late 90's were a joke. That's what you wrote in response. But it's whatever you say expert. Just read what FreshlyBaked13 wrote. Maybe you should take his advice? Ya know get out of your mom's basement. I didn't tuck my tail, I simply grew tired of your childish and incoherent gabbering.
@silverspeedthree here let me respond to people the way you do. By copying and pasting their username. that way you can talk shit and they'll never know it! yea unfortunately for you numbnuts I figured out what you were doing. Oh and on the vette thing, the first fuel injected vette was in 67, not the 80's you fuckin dumbass. and the early 90's ZR-1 was hardly a joke. But hey you're the expert so i'm sure you knew that.
@svtlincoln. Yaayy!! You realized how fucking stupid you are. And believe me if 99.9% of people were as retarded as you, i would prefer if they just walked away. The only thing you did prove is how stupid and full of shit you are. :-)
@svtlincoln. Lol, it gets better and better. What bullshit are you speaking of? The vettes from the 80's all the way up to the late 90's were a joke. And as far as pink slips, why would i want a p.o.s lincoln. It wouldnt even be worth scrappin. Just like i said before, you are a little fanboy retard. And the only thing you probably ever did in a garage wass swept the floor motherfucker. But at least they offer jobs for the handi-capable as yourself.
@svtlincoln. Lol, now your a certified mechanic? Keep writing cause it makes me laugh even more. Just keep rockin your p.o.s lincoln and wishing you could own any of these cars you are watchin or talkin about. Retard.
@silverspeedthree Ya know, I'm gonna do something that i'm sure 99.9% of the people who ever met your sorry ass do, walk away. I don't need to prove a damn thing to you. :)
@svtlincoln. Anytime i need a good laugh I read the shit you post. Who gives a fuck about the new mustang? It has nothing to do with this video or this mustang. I am hoping you know the difference between fuel injected and carburated,(if not you can read up on that) when your beloved mustang with 45 years of heritage went fuel injected they became a joke. If it took this long for fanboys like you to get this excited over a mustang its pretty sad.
@stevezane A regular mazda3 would not beat a 5.0l fox body nor would it hang that close to a stage2 str4. I know because i had a regular mz3. Thing was slow as hell! That was the 1st gen speed3, that's why it didnt have a scoop. They're 280ftlbs in torque in a fwd car, it's going to have trouble getting off the line. Not to mention the ecu limites the psi and takes the hp down to 230 for 1st and 2nd gear...
It's kinda funny how people get into the number quoting game. The times are made by professional drivers, just because they can do it doesn't mean everyone else is gonna. Don't say what your car can do, get out and prove it. Good video btw.
@KittyKranker Tell ya what you wanna race a MS3 vs a GT so damn bad, how bout we line up the 2011 MS3 vs 2011 Mustang GT. Oh wait nevermind the the '11 MS3 couldn't even beat the V6 2011 Mustang! Since that pos mazda runs a best of 13.9 vs the V6 stangs 13.7, and the GT? oh it wouldn't even be a race, 13.9 vs 12.8, that's what we call an ass whoopin.
@TheDylan222222 Ms3= MazdaSpeed3 Ms6= MazdaSpeed6 doesn't really matter though, neither one will touch the new stang. I'm still tryin to figure out how his 14sec mazda beat a 12sec mustang... hmmm
@svtlincoln lol...where do you get your facts...I raced 4 times the same 2011 stang and my 2010 ms3 wins all the time.I start to loose the Stang in third speed.
@stevezane The 2011 5.0 stang runs a 12 sec 1/4 mile. You 2010 ms is a solid 14 sec car. The 2011 v6 stang runs a 13 sec 1/4 . maybe you should try reading some time. and how do u win all the time if he pulls away in 3rd?? that's losing dummy.
@svtlincoln Looking at this video the ms3 won and second...Yes i always win even to a 2011 Stang..what else can I tell you...you don't need to believe me i don't need to read cause i'm out there winning..You can call me dummy or insult me with name calling,but I couldn't care less.
@stevezane there is no way your STOCK 2010 outruns a 2011 mustang unless the driver straight can't drive. even the v6 stang is faster than a stock 10 ms3. somehow you expect everyone to believe your stock ms3 runs a 12sec 1/4 mile. come get me when u wake the fuck up. typical ricer. mustang GT has 412hp and a curbweight of 3600lbs your ms3 makes a laughable 263hp and a weight of 3300lbs. so please tell me how you win. oh and the MS3 has a WORSE EPA rated fuel economy than the Mustang GT.
@shishisha11 yeah,but what you seem to forget is that the Mazda is a 4 cyl and the Stang is a 8??? Amazing that a 4 cyl can friy the 8!1 no? And you know what else?? it cost less gas to fry the Stang's ass...lol
@stevezane actually the only way for the mazda to make more power than the mustang is to force more fuel/air into it. which is what the turbo is for. so it might get better mpg, but not when its using the turbo.
@KittyKranker OK, Look these numbers mean nothing unless you are doing a time attack. I mean obviously go take a look at the GT-R/zr1 times. They didn't start off at the time they are at now. They recorded numerous and I mean numerous amount of times before it is put down. Am I saying car and driver doesn't? No, but it's already been proven real life drivers get better posted numbers. Also, 1995 GT weighs 3281lbs.
@Texarmageddon The most important thing is that if you went to a race and you were restricted from extreme redesigns the mustang is going to take it. As fast as this car is on numbers, the most important number is weight distribution and the MS3 lacks that in a huge manner. I rather take the car that weighs 40lbs heavier with a much better weight distribution and improve it. NOt to mention high-power Fwd is going to be an issue.
@Texarmageddon the MS3 has a 42/48 weight distribution with more HP and more Torque than any 5.0 ever dreamt of, I fail to see where a ford escort with a V8 straped-on has a chance, the MS3 starts being magic in 3rd where it's not boost-limited :D
@Astidcrisse WOAH LOL!?!!!!!! Where did you get that number from?! CAn i have some weed too? Mazda themselves clearly state the mazdaspeed 3 as a 62/38 weight distribution! Since when is 280tq more than 300tq. I should go back to school shouldn't I?
@Astidcrisse are you really that stupid? 87-93 5.0s had 225hp and 300tq ha ha so how is it that your piece of shit 3 has more tq period? let alone your comment about how the shit 3 has more "HP and more Torque than any 5.0 ever dream of"? i hope you were drunk at the time you were saying that ha ha ha
And your crazy if you think a foxbody weighs almost the same as a MS3. The fox is solid steel chassis with iron block, heavy trans, driveshaft and rear diff. It's a damn tank compared to an sheetmetal,aluminum late model car.
@CrazzyJ88 I have never seen a foxbody hit mid to low 14s bone stock without tires or suspension. But then again who cares. The foxbody lost to the MS3 in this vid. The foxbody can be made faster for cheaper but stock for stock the MS3 is indeed faster.
@KittyKranker 05+ mustang is a 4 second car and mazda is a low 6 second car. also a low 14s with mustang being low 13s. A full second is a huge difference. Mazdaspeed is only going to have a chance on short curved tracks.. which im sure you know not every track is like that
@Astidcrisse LOL.. Ok kiddo. First off the Speed 3 is only 262lbs less than a mustang gt. LOL of the 2005-2010 models. 2005-2009 Models have 37 more hp and 40lbs more of tq. Yet, if we compare the 2010 model gt. It's same weight with 45 more hp and 45 lb of tq. If we take the 5.0 Mustangs which are LIGHTER than a MS3 and still has a better weight distribution. I still fail to see your logic. I mean jesus christ you want me to believe numbers that are worse than EDMUNDS?
@Texarmageddon Edmunds gets the garbage of garbage numbers and they are better than the numbers he posted. He provided track numbers, but were the drivers the same in each car? Was the driver thoroughly used to both cars? The ms3 is going through turns 2.7m faster than a mustang gt MEANING you aren't going to fly by a mustang in a corner. Not to mention the huge braking distance of the MS3. You want numbers I'll give you numbers
@Texarmageddon hey little kid, bwuahaha, 2005 and more GT weight in 1700kg, that comes down to 5.57kg per HP and the speed 5.2, if you're going to talk numbers, talk about them all at least,
better power to weight ratio = better performances
plus the old 5.0 had a 0.8 skidpad number, that's as good as my grand mother's escort, kiddo
@Astidcrisse No, 2005 GT weighs 1500kg would you like a cookie on getting such a simple task wrong? I mean as a last resort you could have checked people who owned the car on the forums.
@stevezane yeah and why does it have worst times across the board against the mustang gt? Don't even get me started on the Mach 1 which will run circles on the strip or track against the MS3. just because you beat something... doesnt always mean your car is faster.
@stevezane stang can't go the 7,000rpms?? haha you idiot!! the 2011 mustang GT has a redline of ... guess what?? 7,000rpms!!!!! dude keep on talkin, you're just makin yourself look dumber and dumber. i think you got the new 5.0 mixed up with the old pushrod 5.0 FAIL, AGAIN.
@svtlincoln do you feel important when you call me names?Is it necessary or could you be the idiot that has no tact?Why don't you speak with me like a normal human? I guess you can't if you're a cheap person.What is your cut off on your 2011 Stang? What I meant was your cut off..I'm pretty sure it's not over 7000 rpm.In the mean time i still win when i race them so what is the point of this argument? Are you jealous that 4 cyl can perform betrtter than a 8 cyl?.
@stevezane no i just call it how i see it. When i see an idiot i point it out, idiot. you still have yet to explain how a 263hp car is faster than a 412hp car with only a 300lb weight difference. I think you have the new DOHC 5.0 mixed up with the ole 2v 4.6 You state there are tons of videos with ms3's beating the new 2011 GT, yet there are none. you brag about mpg, yet the stang beats you there as well. but whatever. chumps like you are the ones i enjoy smokin in my 4,200lb Lincoln.
@stevezane yay!!! you finally figured out how wrong you are and that you need to stfu and walk away. Just remember the 2011 mustang GT is faster than a MS3, handles better, makes 149 more horsepower, has something you'll never know called torque, has higher quality ratings, has 45 years worth of heritage behind it and gets better fuel economy. That is an all around ass kicking. Something i'm sure you're use to. idiot.
@svtlincoln nah, I've just figured to stay away from you...there is no way to reason with your kind..for the rest of your comment i just don't agree..better handling??? you have to be sick to say that...anyways...have a nice life insulting people.
@stevezane wow your stupid rpm dont mean shit your ms3 has not fucking chance at beating the new 5.0. Your making yourself look stupid as hell. the sooner you realize there slow the better off you will be.
@KittyKranker same $4000 in a fox mustang goes just as far in terms of hp - basically when it comes down to it, unless one is buying a corvette, shelby mustang, gt-r, or another car in that class, i just don't think that ANY new cars are really worth it - the 2011 mustang gt is the first one i've really salivated over in a long time, aside from the shelby's.
there are plenty of mustangs out there road racing that are very competitive. they're known as drag cars but they're capable of a lot more
@KittyKranker $4000 will get you a 5.0 in decent condition, a set of good aluminum heads and matching cam and intake - another $11000 will buy you exhaust, a new fuel system, suspension, a trans, a new rear end, wide wheels, and some sticky tires. maybe even a fresh short block or a rebuild. throw that up against a $15,000 mazda 3 and see what you get :). the dollar-to-horsepower ratio will speak to the 5.0's validity.
@mgmuscari Wrong, sorry but so wrong. dollar-to-hp mazda has it way beat. I love my old fox body, don't get me wrong, and plenty of friends with built 5.0s and 4.6s, they don't touch my wife's ms3 on take off. Now you give me a 2 mile straight shot and maybe in top end i'll catch her but she'll probably be too far ahead already. I love driving her car on switchbacks, something no mustang could keep up on.
@Rickara3226 i don't see how a $22,725, 265hp (280 according to kittykranker) 3200lb mazdaspeed 3 begins to compare in dollar-to-hp ratio to a $4,000, 225hp 3200lb fox... the math doesn't work out. i'm not saying the mazda sucks - you misunderstand me. i'm saying that you can build up a fox for way less than it would cost to even buy a mazdaspeed 3 new from the factory. when i'm done with my build i'll be under $15k and way over 350hp, and it will handle just as well as that mazda.
@mgmuscari yea, u r right, dunno if i was just not adding it up and being partial, i can see it being able to gain more hp for cheaper but on handling on curves? that would take a hell of a suspension and being a rwd would be hard not to break loose in curves with more ponies. I am a bigger fan of the mustang, i promise,(except for the tail lights on the 2010) but i've seen alot of these little quick geared cars take on some of the greatest old school muscles.
@Rickara3226 Are you kidding? the aftermarket pricing is determined by the longevity of the product. The 5.0 has been in the game a lot longer than the MS3 engine even though it is a ford engine.
@Texarmageddon yea... had a partial day. i've had 2 great foxes, and like i said above, i can see it being cheaper to mod, but to get the handling of the ms3...
I own a ms3 but I love mustangs, mostly 03-04 cobras but a fox has so much potential. I'd much rather have my ms3 as a daily driver but use a fox as just a toy
All that mustang would need to beat that mazda would be a set of 4.10 gears...I mean fuck, stock 5.0 gears are 2.72....Thats pretty much useless from a dig.
its a 5.slow.. not an accomplishment.. that mazda probably has a turbo and full exhaust set up... vs a stock stang.. and the stang kept up.. :-P the new 5.0s are freakin beast.. with the 416HP 302 cubic inch V8s
Yep! Once you start modifying them they are easy 12s cars. My other car is a DART 347 open track car (still legal) and runs 10s, but its an Amercian Iron setup - definitely NOT a drag car. Anyways good luck and take it easy
YOUR FUCKIN STUPID!!! A 5.0HO That came in GT's or LX's(with a V8 Package) it had 225 HorsePower at 300 Footpounds of tourqe. IDK where the hell your getting your numbers from unless your talkin about the 2.3L which this is obviously not. DUMBASS!
shut the fuck up you illiterate prick. You're the one whos butt hurt about the mustang getting beat. you fuckin shit head. Leran the english language before you start shit
you got to remember, its a auto mustang! has bad launches cuz the stall on the torque convertor is only about 1700 rpm, way too low. put a 2500 or 3000 stall in there, which is near max torque, and lose .5-1.0 sec off the 1/4 mile. theres also more power lost through that auto trans, 15% est manual, 20% auto. but if you want to make a strip only car, auto is the best.
V8KindOfGuy 2 months ago
Stop aruguing about foxbodys. Their is not alot they can beat stock or even with a mild H/C/I setup. Foxbodys look and sound great but have no power to back it up. The best thing you can do to a fox is look in the aftermarket for a longblock swap or if you want to keep it Ford a nice 351w should give it some bite. 220hp (or however much, still sucks) doesn't cut it. A honda H22 makes that stock as well (I'm not a Honda boy, just know about honads). Great chassis, poor powerplant.
need2speed94 2 months ago
Wrong...you guys need to learn your freaking mustang history on here. The 85 GT had 210 hp, the 86 GT had 200 hp and actually were the quickest foxbody 5.0 made next to the 93 cobra's. the 87-92 GT/LX 5.0 put down 225hp while the 93 GT's put down 205. The 87 GT's were the best for mods. But in stock trim straight from the factory the 86 GT's were known to have run mid to low 14's...That's incredible for a car in the mid 80's....all for around 8-10k brand new.
jobinblow 2 months ago 2
@jobinblow Automatic 5.0 mustangs only run 14.7's in the 1/4 mile..they run like shit..If you get a 5.0, you need a 5 speed, there a whole nother world next to the automatic..the 5 speeds destroy auto 5.0's..My stock 2011 hemi ram 4x4 quad cab runs 14.58's in the 1/4 mile..I beat my buddys mint condition garage kept 5.0 AOD mustang all day long..Now, the 5 speed on the other hand..he rapes my truck..
521CID 2 months ago
from 87-93 ALL 5.0's were 220hp/300ft lb torque with the exception of the 93 cobra's being what he said "235hp" and with 320ft lb torque.
stangredemption 3 months ago
Race grade? HUH? How about running some engine cleaner through the system and giving it new rings and bearings and new plugs and other typical tune up items. Heads and cam and 3.73's
stangredemption 4 months ago
5.0 did pretty good for being stock. only makein around 210-215 to the tire haha.
Th3yCaLLM3M0nK3y 4 months ago
Ahh, nice toaster video quality.
GunsnTons 5 months ago
Not surprising since it was a stock 5.0
pwkid 5 months ago
how the fuck did the mazda speed get a better launch than the 5.0...?
cskater18 5 months ago
@cskater18 The speed has traction control, and i own a 88 5.0, the stock suspension is extremely unpredictable and loves to spin. you put a good set of traction bars on there and some good street tires and that 5.0 would smoke that speed3 up to about 110 or so.
1built9ford9tough5 5 months ago
@1built9ford9tough5 I drive a 4.6 stang, so I wouldnt know I guess, I was just surprised because most Mustang's I've driven launch pretty damn nicely.
cskater18 5 months ago
@cskater18 The 4.6 launch better. when ford came out with the fox body, they tried a new suspension set up. it used a "quadshock" to stabilize the rear end under load. this was great for ride quality, problem is, they let the rear end move too much. that along with soft rubber bushings allows WAY too much movement. it makes the rear end spin ruthlessly and tend to want to wash out in hard cornering.
1built9ford9tough5 5 months ago
@cskater18 5.0 is old bud... ye its a quick car but remember this stang is most likly only pumping out 250+/- Hp
not to mention its got tall gears from the factory. both in the tranny and the Diff, and a full frame design (heavy)
take that mustang, run some race Grade cleaner through that tired engine, replace all sparkplugs, wires, injectors, most lickly replace some of the gasket seals cuz their probably toast. and put 3:73 Diff Gears and that mustang would perform wayyyyy better.
CemetaryGatesML 4 months ago
@CemetaryGatesML actually, from 87-88 it was 235hp, 89-92 was from 225-230, and the 93 was like 220 but the 93 cobra was 235
samidaram 4 months ago
@CemetaryGatesML Thanks "bud" for explaining to a mustang owner how to mod a mustang and adding the fact that this 80's car is old. Learn how to spell cock sucker.
cskater18 2 months ago
@cskater18 hey "bud" you sound a bit angry...
i strongly recomend opening a window and lettinf in tome fresh air into that shed...cuz you know...thats were tools like you belong, i would asume its quite sad in there... anyways. ttyl fuckface :)
CemetaryGatesML 2 months ago
mazda 3s are rediculous idk why..
xXBiiZaR 5 months ago
I think it's ridiculous that you can't spell ridiculous....LMAO...
CoronaJoe 5 months ago
@CoronaJoe true, im not a very good speller, but i make up for it in huge wiener size.
xXBiiZaR 3 months ago
bro don't leave your camera bitch back there, they have feelings too haha
Gnawrbucks 6 months ago
Thwarted by a hatchback.
WestheLegend 6 months ago
Give the mazdaspeed its due!.Its one of (if not) the fastest FWD cars out there. I have a mazda 3 S sport (no turbo) and besides the lack of power it handles really nice! Now, where can I find a crashes mazdaspeed drive train? LOL
1701mcfly 7 months ago
@1701mcfly lol i totaled my 2010 ms3 three month ago you can probably get the drive tran and stuff there i have to find where they junk it to.
b18c5turbo 7 months ago
@b18c5turbo back in 84- I saw the 1st NINJA! I thought ' Man I would love to have one- I'll never be able to afford one". In 86 I traded my KZ 750 for a 'crashed' 84 ninja w/1100 miles. It was 'Written off'. found original owner! Taborinee Sararree or something?wierd name.He (for $100) gave me the title he still had.REGISTERED it! Mark aka BOGART from competition cycle in dania beach florida gave me ALL the pieces I needed! (I traded to him) It was AWESOME! Never forget that feeling 1st ride!
1701mcfly 7 months ago
@1701mcfly fastest fwd car out there?? are u hammered?
MrBarnz92 7 months ago
@MrBarnz92 HAMMERED!!?? :P I should get the numbers 1st ha? LOL But Im not that into FWD cars.I know a MS3 can run 14.4 or a lil quicker stock, so if there are other FWD's that are faster, cool. I did say 'ITS ONE OF' (if not) the fastest FWD cars out there.So I wasnt 100% sure.
1701mcfly 7 months ago
@1701mcfly well played sir
MrBarnz92 7 months ago
Ever hear of a tripod?
Unleadedcs 8 months ago
that's a nice notch!
71dime 8 months ago
the guy in the 5.0 sucked!!!
arcosfidel 8 months ago
@arcosfidel A 5.0 with bolt ons, on street tires, is a mid 13 sec car at best. The speed 3, is a ~14 sec car bone stock and some have managed to pull 13.8s stock.
So for it to be that close, he probably didnt suck.
Honestly neither car is what anyone should consider fast.
davenow 8 months ago
@davenow ok so recently test drove a MS3 just to see what its like and i got to say they are pretty quick and lots of fun. still a 5.0 man though
arcosfidel 8 months ago
I've had my 08 MS3 since it first hit the showroom floor and I've dusted every stock mustang I ran with since. I haven't run a well modded one, but a couple bolt on's I have beat. (intake/exhaust) They are defiantly faster post 1/4 in many cases, but my speed just appears to have more low end umph than stock or lightly modded mustang's I've run so far. I only have CAI.
SGTRandyB 10 months ago
@SGTRandyB You haven't ran the right mustang. There are plenty of stocks ones that would leave you.
944devster 9 months ago
@SGTRandyB Every stock or lightly modified MS3 i've seen at the local strip has trapped 96 mph. I have a 5.0 notch with a very mild cam, stock iron Explorer heads, Edelbrock intake and short tube headers- very mild setup- and I trap 106. That's 10 mph more.... I paid $800 for my car and another $1500 for everything else that's been done to it. How much does an MS3 cost? Yea no thanks waste of money.
gtdrummerdude 8 months ago
@gtdrummerdude Very true lol i spent 500 for my 92 camaro 350 head stock. Dropping an ls1 in it now so cant really say much about saving money and good quality anymore lol
reallytightpants 8 months ago
Yeah Ive got friends with stis and evos, i wanted a new sti but even an 07 was more than I wanted to pay,lol
killbillet420 11 months ago
@faststang02 yeah 260 to the wheels stock, I'm running about 400hp right now, bit I agree the new 5.0 is sick, I miss all my old mustangs and I will eventually get a new cobra. But as far as traction I have a lot of wheel hop and torque steer and it's quite annoying lol
killbillet420 11 months ago
that mustang wasnt stock ive beat stock 5.0s with my stock mazda speed
killbillet420 11 months ago
@killbillet420 your not talking about the new 5.0. are you?
ricky041878 11 months ago
@ricky041878 lol no not the new 5.0's hopefully be the end of this summer though :)
killbillet420 11 months ago
@killbillet420 my gfs ex tried to start shit by sending me a vid of a ms3 outrunning a old 5.0 cuz ive got a new one. i whooped his bitch ass. that new 5.0 engine is nothing to mess around with its got some nasty power and with just a few bolt ons it runs less that 10s on a 1/4. i mean stock for stock the 2011 5.0 makes 413hp roughly and a stock ms3 is what? 260-270? hahaha. traction would go to the ms3 cuz fwd but all 5.0 from there.
faststang02 11 months ago
@faststang02 lol yeah the new ones are def nothing to mess with, the mazda does put out 260 to the wheels on a dyno, more to the motor but you know how all that works, the last time i dynoed my car was in oklahoma and it was 400 i live in colorado so with the elevation in prob at 350. but like I said hopefully by the end of the summer ill have all my parts put me a little over 400 idk if i want to go more but it would be nice haha
killbillet420 11 months ago
@killbillet420 thats pretty damn good for a ms3. wich same goes with the evo and sti's the are like 2.0L and 2.3 or 2.4L and they make can make some killer power yet its awd.
faststang02 11 months ago
Front wheel drive and upgraded vs bone stock rear wheel drive? thats fair. Not. Who knows whats done to that madza speed.
XD3MONxHUNT3RX 11 months ago
@XD3MONxHUNT3RX Because FWD = better launch right?
kfoxon 11 months ago
@kfoxon Right
XD3MONxHUNT3RX 11 months ago
Man I can't believe that MS3 walked on that Fox like that. Impressive. Put a super on that 5.0 and some better shoes and I think that would have ended differently, though. In retrospect, though, I've owned a couple fox's and my Dakota 2wd with the lightly modded 5.2 Magnum it has would have blown the doors off my fox chassis...
BigNick419andholding 1 year ago
Also forgetting since this was a down hill the 4cyl turbo is at an advantage, try the same race uphill and you'll see the the fox pull ahead and most likely even on a flat road with better tires on fox. Looks like a cold day and worn tires.
sr20tuner 1 year ago
@svtlincoln. Rofl. You probably posted under a different account and answered yourself.lol. Even if not, you are doing the same thing you fucking retard. You still kill me. And thank you for clearing up that i did't say anything about fuel injection starting in the 80's again retard. As far as the old ZR1 it is the rarest vette made and costed over $60k back in 91 and the calloway edition which ended halfway through 91 costed even more. Yes that is a joke just as you are.
silverspeedthree 1 year ago
@silverspeedthree learn english please. Costed? it costed? wow great grammar there expert. I only have one YouTube account unlike yourself. I don't have to have multiple accounts because unlike you I'm not a complete douche who still sucks on his momma's tit every night. well goodnight, I have a job to go to in the morning. what time does your shift at mcdonald's start? I know you janitors have some odd hours.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
Honestly how pathetic does silverspeedthree sound on here? Get a life and stop fighting on youtube. Better yet try and find some friends .. you know .. real people.
FreshlyBaked13 1 year ago
@svtlincoln. Lol, i thought you tucked your tail and walked away like you said before. Your retardedness is really showing now, this is a mobile account.(mobile meaning phone just in case you didn't understand) I also don't understand where i wrote that vettes went fuel injected in the 80's, scroll down a little retard it isn't there. You tell me to hang myself? lol. Man you kill me, please keep responding its hilarious. Retard.
silverspeedthree 1 year ago
@silverspeedthree The vettes from the 80's all the way up to the late 90's were a joke. That's what you wrote in response. But it's whatever you say expert. Just read what FreshlyBaked13 wrote. Maybe you should take his advice? Ya know get out of your mom's basement. I didn't tuck my tail, I simply grew tired of your childish and incoherent gabbering.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@silverspeedthree here let me respond to people the way you do. By copying and pasting their username. that way you can talk shit and they'll never know it! yea unfortunately for you numbnuts I figured out what you were doing. Oh and on the vette thing, the first fuel injected vette was in 67, not the 80's you fuckin dumbass. and the early 90's ZR-1 was hardly a joke. But hey you're the expert so i'm sure you knew that.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
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svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln. Yaayy!! You realized how fucking stupid you are. And believe me if 99.9% of people were as retarded as you, i would prefer if they just walked away. The only thing you did prove is how stupid and full of shit you are. :-)
silverspeedthree 1 year ago
@silverspeedthree Blah Blah Blah. go hang yourself.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln. Lol, it gets better and better. What bullshit are you speaking of? The vettes from the 80's all the way up to the late 90's were a joke. And as far as pink slips, why would i want a p.o.s lincoln. It wouldnt even be worth scrappin. Just like i said before, you are a little fanboy retard. And the only thing you probably ever did in a garage wass swept the floor motherfucker. But at least they offer jobs for the handi-capable as yourself.
silverspeedthree 1 year ago
@svtlincoln. Lol, now your a certified mechanic? Keep writing cause it makes me laugh even more. Just keep rockin your p.o.s lincoln and wishing you could own any of these cars you are watchin or talkin about. Retard.
silverspeedthree 1 year ago
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svtlincoln 1 year ago
@silverspeedthree Ya know, I'm gonna do something that i'm sure 99.9% of the people who ever met your sorry ass do, walk away. I don't need to prove a damn thing to you. :)
svtlincoln 1 year ago
Wow.....5.0 got spanked.
pressrolls 1 year ago
@svtlincoln. Anytime i need a good laugh I read the shit you post. Who gives a fuck about the new mustang? It has nothing to do with this video or this mustang. I am hoping you know the difference between fuel injected and carburated,(if not you can read up on that) when your beloved mustang with 45 years of heritage went fuel injected they became a joke. If it took this long for fanboys like you to get this excited over a mustang its pretty sad.
silverspeedthree 1 year ago
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svtlincoln 1 year ago
i thought mazdaspeeds had scoop hoods? and a different looking rear end than that one? is that a regular 3 and maybe not a speed?
outcast1011 1 year ago
@outcast1011 I would say its a regular Mazda 3..The Speed 3 has round fog lights.
stevezane 1 year ago
@stevezane thats what i figured thanks for the clarification
outcast1011 1 year ago
@stevezane A regular mazda3 would not beat a 5.0l fox body nor would it hang that close to a stage2 str4. I know because i had a regular mz3. Thing was slow as hell! That was the 1st gen speed3, that's why it didnt have a scoop. They're 280ftlbs in torque in a fwd car, it's going to have trouble getting off the line. Not to mention the ecu limites the psi and takes the hp down to 230 for 1st and 2nd gear...
VitaminE6SS 1 year ago
@VitaminE6SS I see...that makes senses.I was surprised to see a regular m3 beat a Mustang..lol
stevezane 1 year ago
mustang should get some drag radials and race again.
vnms1993 1 year ago
I think you mean 4.6 vs MS3.... :D
MovieTheaterHead 1 year ago
It's kinda funny how people get into the number quoting game. The times are made by professional drivers, just because they can do it doesn't mean everyone else is gonna. Don't say what your car can do, get out and prove it. Good video btw.
silverspeedthree 1 year ago
nice American Muscle
adokenk3nnbasil 1 year ago
mustang all the way V8 baby! :D
1bojanbojan 1 year ago
people need to make better titles for there videos, like Grocery getter pones noisy mustang.. can i get a 5.slow anyone...
yousawthis 1 year ago
there is no way that 5.0 is stock. that engine sounds way too good
mynameisntimpt 1 year ago
he would have hatch to ugly peice of shit
ohyes247 1 year ago
@KittyKranker Tell ya what you wanna race a MS3 vs a GT so damn bad, how bout we line up the 2011 MS3 vs 2011 Mustang GT. Oh wait nevermind the the '11 MS3 couldn't even beat the V6 2011 Mustang! Since that pos mazda runs a best of 13.9 vs the V6 stangs 13.7, and the GT? oh it wouldn't even be a race, 13.9 vs 12.8, that's what we call an ass whoopin.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln Already beat a 5.0 2011 mustang in my MS6 80 punch... It was close but I put maybe 2-3 cars plus 80-140 plus
KrGsMrNKusinagi0 1 year ago
@KrGsMrNKusinagi0 not in a stock MS6 you didn't. a stocker coudn't even keep up with a 6cyl.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln whats a ms3?
TheDylan222222 1 year ago
@TheDylan222222 Ms3= MazdaSpeed3 Ms6= MazdaSpeed6 doesn't really matter though, neither one will touch the new stang. I'm still tryin to figure out how his 14sec mazda beat a 12sec mustang... hmmm
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln oh ok thanks for tellin me and yah the new 5.0 is badass and idk eather
TheDylan222222 1 year ago
@svtlincoln lol...where do you get your facts...I raced 4 times the same 2011 stang and my 2010 ms3 wins all the time.I start to loose the Stang in third speed.
stevezane 1 year ago
@stevezane The 2011 5.0 stang runs a 12 sec 1/4 mile. You 2010 ms is a solid 14 sec car. The 2011 v6 stang runs a 13 sec 1/4 . maybe you should try reading some time. and how do u win all the time if he pulls away in 3rd?? that's losing dummy.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln Looking at this video the ms3 won and second...Yes i always win even to a 2011 Stang..what else can I tell you...you don't need to believe me i don't need to read cause i'm out there winning..You can call me dummy or insult me with name calling,but I couldn't care less.
stevezane 1 year ago
@stevezane there is no way your STOCK 2010 outruns a 2011 mustang unless the driver straight can't drive. even the v6 stang is faster than a stock 10 ms3. somehow you expect everyone to believe your stock ms3 runs a 12sec 1/4 mile. come get me when u wake the fuck up. typical ricer. mustang GT has 412hp and a curbweight of 3600lbs your ms3 makes a laughable 263hp and a weight of 3300lbs. so please tell me how you win. oh and the MS3 has a WORSE EPA rated fuel economy than the Mustang GT.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
turbo the 5.0 with the same psi the mazda's on and see what happens.
shishisha11 1 year ago
@shishisha11 it's not about that...it's about what faster and it's the mazda....
TPena92 1 year ago
@shishisha11 yeah,but what you seem to forget is that the Mazda is a 4 cyl and the Stang is a 8??? Amazing that a 4 cyl can friy the 8!1 no? And you know what else?? it cost less gas to fry the Stang's ass...lol
stevezane 1 year ago
@stevezane actually the only way for the mazda to make more power than the mustang is to force more fuel/air into it. which is what the turbo is for. so it might get better mpg, but not when its using the turbo.
shishisha11 1 year ago
dont fuck with a mazda 3!
fredmagic09 1 year ago
Spinning isnt winning..
93foxGT 1 year ago
@KittyKranker OK, Look these numbers mean nothing unless you are doing a time attack. I mean obviously go take a look at the GT-R/zr1 times. They didn't start off at the time they are at now. They recorded numerous and I mean numerous amount of times before it is put down. Am I saying car and driver doesn't? No, but it's already been proven real life drivers get better posted numbers. Also, 1995 GT weighs 3281lbs.
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon The most important thing is that if you went to a race and you were restricted from extreme redesigns the mustang is going to take it. As fast as this car is on numbers, the most important number is weight distribution and the MS3 lacks that in a huge manner. I rather take the car that weighs 40lbs heavier with a much better weight distribution and improve it. NOt to mention high-power Fwd is going to be an issue.
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon the MS3 has a 42/48 weight distribution with more HP and more Torque than any 5.0 ever dreamt of, I fail to see where a ford escort with a V8 straped-on has a chance, the MS3 starts being magic in 3rd where it's not boost-limited :D
Astidcrisse 1 year ago
@Astidcrisse WOAH LOL!?!!!!!! Where did you get that number from?! CAn i have some weed too? Mazda themselves clearly state the mazdaspeed 3 as a 62/38 weight distribution! Since when is 280tq more than 300tq. I should go back to school shouldn't I?
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon tq is nothing without taking weight into account, much less ho and it's still an escort with a v8
Astidcrisse 1 year ago
@Astidcrisse are you really that stupid? 87-93 5.0s had 225hp and 300tq ha ha so how is it that your piece of shit 3 has more tq period? let alone your comment about how the shit 3 has more "HP and more Torque than any 5.0 ever dream of"? i hope you were drunk at the time you were saying that ha ha ha
CrazzyJ88 1 year ago
@CrazzyJ88 Mazdaspeed 3s make 263hp and 280tq and weigh about the same as a foxbody. Bone stock foxbodies are slow as shit and eveyone knows that.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
And your crazy if you think a foxbody weighs almost the same as a MS3. The fox is solid steel chassis with iron block, heavy trans, driveshaft and rear diff. It's a damn tank compared to an sheetmetal,aluminum late model car.
sr20tuner 1 year ago
@sr20tuner foxbody = 3270lbs~ ; 1st gen mazdaspeed3 = 3150.
120lbs doesn't make that much difference.
kfoxon 11 months ago
@kageryu311 Stock there mid to low 14sec cars at sea level. And it only takes one mod to make them drop.5 - 1 second in the quarter mile.
CrazzyJ88 1 year ago
@CrazzyJ88 I have never seen a foxbody hit mid to low 14s bone stock without tires or suspension. But then again who cares. The foxbody lost to the MS3 in this vid. The foxbody can be made faster for cheaper but stock for stock the MS3 is indeed faster.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@KittyKranker 05+ mustang is a 4 second car and mazda is a low 6 second car. also a low 14s with mustang being low 13s. A full second is a huge difference. Mazdaspeed is only going to have a chance on short curved tracks.. which im sure you know not every track is like that
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon 4 second car? hahahahaha come on,
it's got 30 more hp than the speed but weight 600lbs more, it doesnt handle well, read kittykranker's comment, read the internet, do something!
Astidcrisse 1 year ago
@Astidcrisse LOL.. Ok kiddo. First off the Speed 3 is only 262lbs less than a mustang gt. LOL of the 2005-2010 models. 2005-2009 Models have 37 more hp and 40lbs more of tq. Yet, if we compare the 2010 model gt. It's same weight with 45 more hp and 45 lb of tq. If we take the 5.0 Mustangs which are LIGHTER than a MS3 and still has a better weight distribution. I still fail to see your logic. I mean jesus christ you want me to believe numbers that are worse than EDMUNDS?
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon Edmunds gets the garbage of garbage numbers and they are better than the numbers he posted. He provided track numbers, but were the drivers the same in each car? Was the driver thoroughly used to both cars? The ms3 is going through turns 2.7m faster than a mustang gt MEANING you aren't going to fly by a mustang in a corner. Not to mention the huge braking distance of the MS3. You want numbers I'll give you numbers
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon hey little kid, bwuahaha, 2005 and more GT weight in 1700kg, that comes down to 5.57kg per HP and the speed 5.2, if you're going to talk numbers, talk about them all at least,
better power to weight ratio = better performances
plus the old 5.0 had a 0.8 skidpad number, that's as good as my grand mother's escort, kiddo
Astidcrisse 1 year ago
@Astidcrisse No, 2005 GT weighs 1500kg would you like a cookie on getting such a simple task wrong? I mean as a last resort you could have checked people who owned the car on the forums.
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon O btw the 5.0 had a better power to weight ratio and for some odd reason it still lost?
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon one easy explanation..the Stang can't go to 7000 rpm before shifting.
stevezane 1 year ago
@stevezane yeah and why does it have worst times across the board against the mustang gt? Don't even get me started on the Mach 1 which will run circles on the strip or track against the MS3. just because you beat something... doesnt always mean your car is faster.
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@stevezane stang can't go the 7,000rpms?? haha you idiot!! the 2011 mustang GT has a redline of ... guess what?? 7,000rpms!!!!! dude keep on talkin, you're just makin yourself look dumber and dumber. i think you got the new 5.0 mixed up with the old pushrod 5.0 FAIL, AGAIN.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln do you feel important when you call me names?Is it necessary or could you be the idiot that has no tact?Why don't you speak with me like a normal human? I guess you can't if you're a cheap person.What is your cut off on your 2011 Stang? What I meant was your cut off..I'm pretty sure it's not over 7000 rpm.In the mean time i still win when i race them so what is the point of this argument? Are you jealous that 4 cyl can perform betrtter than a 8 cyl?.
stevezane 1 year ago
@stevezane no i just call it how i see it. When i see an idiot i point it out, idiot. you still have yet to explain how a 263hp car is faster than a 412hp car with only a 300lb weight difference. I think you have the new DOHC 5.0 mixed up with the ole 2v 4.6 You state there are tons of videos with ms3's beating the new 2011 GT, yet there are none. you brag about mpg, yet the stang beats you there as well. but whatever. chumps like you are the ones i enjoy smokin in my 4,200lb Lincoln.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln yeah..right..i see what kind of person you are....the one i want nothing to do woth..see ya
stevezane 1 year ago
@stevezane yay!!! you finally figured out how wrong you are and that you need to stfu and walk away. Just remember the 2011 mustang GT is faster than a MS3, handles better, makes 149 more horsepower, has something you'll never know called torque, has higher quality ratings, has 45 years worth of heritage behind it and gets better fuel economy. That is an all around ass kicking. Something i'm sure you're use to. idiot.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln nah, I've just figured to stay away from you...there is no way to reason with your kind..for the rest of your comment i just don't agree..better handling??? you have to be sick to say that...anyways...have a nice life insulting people.
stevezane 1 year ago
@stevezane wow your stupid rpm dont mean shit your ms3 has not fucking chance at beating the new 5.0. Your making yourself look stupid as hell. the sooner you realize there slow the better off you will be.
CrazzyJ88 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon so why the ms3 is always winning over the Mustang? Just check most videos on youtube for proof?
stevezane 1 year ago
@KittyKranker same $4000 in a fox mustang goes just as far in terms of hp - basically when it comes down to it, unless one is buying a corvette, shelby mustang, gt-r, or another car in that class, i just don't think that ANY new cars are really worth it - the 2011 mustang gt is the first one i've really salivated over in a long time, aside from the shelby's.
there are plenty of mustangs out there road racing that are very competitive. they're known as drag cars but they're capable of a lot more
mgmuscari 1 year ago
@KittyKranker love the comment but did you have to mention the POS, i mean the SRT. lol
Rickara3226 1 year ago
@KittyKranker $4000 will get you a 5.0 in decent condition, a set of good aluminum heads and matching cam and intake - another $11000 will buy you exhaust, a new fuel system, suspension, a trans, a new rear end, wide wheels, and some sticky tires. maybe even a fresh short block or a rebuild. throw that up against a $15,000 mazda 3 and see what you get :). the dollar-to-horsepower ratio will speak to the 5.0's validity.
mgmuscari 1 year ago
@mgmuscari Wrong, sorry but so wrong. dollar-to-hp mazda has it way beat. I love my old fox body, don't get me wrong, and plenty of friends with built 5.0s and 4.6s, they don't touch my wife's ms3 on take off. Now you give me a 2 mile straight shot and maybe in top end i'll catch her but she'll probably be too far ahead already. I love driving her car on switchbacks, something no mustang could keep up on.
Rickara3226 1 year ago
@Rickara3226 i don't see how a $22,725, 265hp (280 according to kittykranker) 3200lb mazdaspeed 3 begins to compare in dollar-to-hp ratio to a $4,000, 225hp 3200lb fox... the math doesn't work out. i'm not saying the mazda sucks - you misunderstand me. i'm saying that you can build up a fox for way less than it would cost to even buy a mazdaspeed 3 new from the factory. when i'm done with my build i'll be under $15k and way over 350hp, and it will handle just as well as that mazda.
mgmuscari 1 year ago
@mgmuscari yea, u r right, dunno if i was just not adding it up and being partial, i can see it being able to gain more hp for cheaper but on handling on curves? that would take a hell of a suspension and being a rwd would be hard not to break loose in curves with more ponies. I am a bigger fan of the mustang, i promise,(except for the tail lights on the 2010) but i've seen alot of these little quick geared cars take on some of the greatest old school muscles.
Rickara3226 1 year ago
@Rickara3226 Are you kidding? the aftermarket pricing is determined by the longevity of the product. The 5.0 has been in the game a lot longer than the MS3 engine even though it is a ford engine.
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon yea... had a partial day. i've had 2 great foxes, and like i said above, i can see it being cheaper to mod, but to get the handling of the ms3...
Rickara3226 1 year ago
@Rickara3226 There are handling mods you know. There is a mod for everything
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
iI'd still take the fox anyday over the grocery getter.
99whatevaman 1 year ago 2
@99whatevaman
I own a ms3 but I love mustangs, mostly 03-04 cobras but a fox has so much potential. I'd much rather have my ms3 as a daily driver but use a fox as just a toy
ojd1990 1 year ago
have you guys read about the new engine ford made for the future stangs???? fuckin beasty ass motor...412 horse off the show room floor!!
BIGDEAN23 1 year ago
YES MY 2 favorite cars.......i own an '89 5.0 modded and an '07 Speed3.
dh39zj 1 year ago
Lol! I drove one of them Speed3.. G-FORCE!!
jun19020987 1 year ago
All that mustang would need to beat that mazda would be a set of 4.10 gears...I mean fuck, stock 5.0 gears are 2.72....Thats pretty much useless from a dig.
408Mustangs 1 year ago 2
@408Mustangs I thought stock 5.0 gears were 3.27s?
longbeachmustangkid 1 year ago
They're either 2.72, 3.05 (I think) or 3.27s
And on the Cobra's in 93 they were 3.55s
408Mustangs 1 year ago
very true
BIGDEAN23 1 year ago
@408Mustangs : you meant 2.73
carcajouxx 1 year ago
How fat is the camera guy fucking you're standing there and huffing and puffing. Go for a run
reggindriver 2 years ago 33
@reggindriver
hahahahaha...that made my day
FlyingStuff 1 year ago
nooooo this is not true omg noooo i am not seeing this
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
its a 5.slow.. not an accomplishment.. that mazda probably has a turbo and full exhaust set up... vs a stock stang.. and the stang kept up.. :-P the new 5.0s are freakin beast.. with the 416HP 302 cubic inch V8s
xmodrock 1 year ago
does not matter they all suck dick any way look at this video
540TransAmKid93 1 year ago
@xmodrock The Mazda Speed 3 has a 2.3 engine and yes a Turbo.
stevezane 1 year ago
@xmodrock they are stock turbo. Its a 2.3L engine vs a 5L
evilmatchbox 1 year ago
@evilmatchbox and FWD
evilmatchbox 1 year ago
IM a huge mazda fan but i was really expecting the stang to win the speed3 got terrible torque steer from stand still
evilmatchbox 2 years ago
Not really... stock 5.0L mustangs are kinda slow... really. I've owned 6 mustangs 5x 5.0L... stock, they are high 14s cars.
biscuitninja 1 year ago
@biscuitninja yeah they dont have much high end power mostly just low end torque haha I still love them though.
longbeachmustangkid 1 year ago
@longbeachmustangkid
Yep! Once you start modifying them they are easy 12s cars. My other car is a DART 347 open track car (still legal) and runs 10s, but its an Amercian Iron setup - definitely NOT a drag car. Anyways good luck and take it easy
biscuitninja 1 year ago
even tho the mazda won lol its a fucking mazda, those 5.0s are way cooler
ZGILBERT93 2 years ago
y does people like mustangs shit like this happen
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
Zoom Zoom! Mazdaspeed 3 for the win all day long!!
kageryu311 2 years ago
wtf did the stang get beat wtf i am seeing this al wrong am i
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
Yes you did. It got beat by a FWD 4 banger econobox family car.
Zoom Zoom!!!
kageryu311 2 years ago 2
tell me this y does people like mustangs plez tell me
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
hahaha hell ya
jDmEj7617 2 years ago
@540TransAmKid93 nop...lol I've seen the Mustang get his ass wiped by a Mazda Speed 3 a few times..lol
stevezane 1 year ago
I meant around not under*
jjsk8erkid 2 years ago
old stangs didn't come with alot hp, 95 +, real mustangs 95 cobra R has 320 or something like that THEN CAME 03,04 TERMINATOR
JUANITOSTANG 2 years ago
YOUR FUCKIN STUPID!!! A 5.0HO That came in GT's or LX's(with a V8 Package) it had 225 HorsePower at 300 Footpounds of tourqe. IDK where the hell your getting your numbers from unless your talkin about the 2.3L which this is obviously not. DUMBASS!
TheDreamer655 2 years ago
And im sorry cause i just noticed it was a trunk car not a hatch.
TheDreamer655 2 years ago
r u a mustang fan
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
if u are Y THE FUCK DID A FUCKING MUSTANG GET BEET BY A FUCKING MAZDA FAMLIY CAR MAN THATS BAD MAN I SEEN STAGS GET BEET BY HONDAS MAN WTF
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
ya v8 are really shit anymore if u havent noticed lol
jDmEj7617 2 years ago
well it is a mustang so im anot worry about it man
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
ya id have a trans am if i could own one lol
jDmEj7617 2 years ago
o let me tell u it would not look like this mustang in this video hahaha
540TransAmKid93 2 years ago
@540TransAmKid93 BEET...LMAO!!!
chadn70 2 years ago
@540TransAmKid93 Mazdas are American dumb ass....
longbeachmustangkid 1 year ago
@longbeachmustangkid HEY SHIT THE FUCK AND LOOK AT THIS MUSTANG GETS ITS ASS WHIPPED BITCH
540TransAmKid93 1 year ago
shut the fuck up you illiterate prick. You're the one whos butt hurt about the mustang getting beat. you fuckin shit head. Leran the english language before you start shit
longbeachmustangkid 1 year ago