(Kent Hovind) Creation Seminar 1 - Age of the Earth Part 14

[djfantom205]

It's amazing how so many evolutionists state how this man knows nothing about science just because he's a creationist.

My theory is that if god created everything, then he created science. If gods intention for all of his creation was to honer and glorify him, then why would science be a corrupt thing?

I've seen first hand how science is parallel to creation in so many ways. The bible even talks about how Jesus used science himself.

[RJL738]

There would still be problems but yes fresh and saltwater animals could have a common ancester. But that was just inmature to say the least saying they believe they came from a rock and just because there idea isn't air tight that it is still better than the other side wich has been mischaracterised, that is beyond a logical fallacy. That is not the way to argue such and important subject. His ground eroding down arguamnt is just too hard to unpack.

[RJL738]

How does he place it at exactly 4,400, a percision like that is too ambitious even for his timescale so not that models should not be tested but he is somewhat or far more than that putting his theory in danger having an almost seemless idea for how hystory unfolded. Not that a clock can't be made but I doubt in the future the oceans will be obscenly salty if that is what is being implied at all. There is something wrong.

[RJL738]

I'm not sure but Niagra Falls may have been eroding for almost or whatever 9,000 years that is more than plausible something to consider. Lol I'm not sure how it all fits together but not only does 10,000 years not even discredit Young Earth Creationism or Creationism in general it most certainly does not discredit the Bible even by adding an entire decible place to the number or a few, the Bible is not at stake. Even within his timeline how does he know 4,400 exactly and other things.

[oleh2007]

bullocks....

[MrsBerean]

Maybe instead of all the haters putting Hovind down - they should actually do some of their own research and make an attempt to discredit him ...Know why they don't - they have no proof...

[spidertraceur15]

About 1000 years ago, scientists knew that the earth was at the center of the galaxy. About 600 years ago, scientists knew that the earth was flat.

About 500 years ago, scientists knew that bigger rocks fell faster than smaller rocks.

Today people believe that that they came from apes.

Scientists don't know shit.

[fatgirlballet]

@spidertraceur15 Humans don't decend from apes. We are apes. Just like chimps, orangutans and gorillas. And do you have an education? If so, thank science.

[brj0207]

Charles Darwin didn't start questioning the fallacy of the Bible until he went to the Galapagos Islands for HIMSELF and saw that evolution takes place. AFTER he went back to his home, he read the work of Lyell. That is a Creationist FAIL.

[chattiestspike2]

geology fail. that's all i have to say.

[lizazoon]

Genesis is fiction:Most bible colleges teach it`s allegory:As an example, there are 106 schools in the Christian College Coalition. Of those 106 only 5 teach a literal interpretation of the Genesis account of creation or that the flood was global & the flood prevailed the highest peak

[gregrutz]

The Guadalupe Mountains are the uplifted portion of an ancient reef that thrived along the edge of an inland sea more than 250 million years ago during Permian time. Preserved in the rocks are the bodies of sponges, algae, snails, nautilus, and many other animals that lived in this ancient sea. Scientists from all over the world visit the park each year to study the structure and fauna of the reef.

[gregrutz]

Carlsbad Caverns is in an old reef, millions of years old.

[spurnthemuse]

@gregrutz Somebody told, to you, this? SPURN THE MUSE!!

[gregrutz]

@spurnthemuse

Have you been to Carlsbad Caverns?

You can see the fosslis in the coral, and cave in the limestone or out in the salt flats from the old ocean.

[Prontest]

this is just hard to watch so horrible with the science

[dscolar]

you just cant accvept d fact dat ur evolution theory is complete self-deception. fraidy cat ur scared of the enormous evidence being presented before you.

[xxdjsethxx]

Again you are making bullshit claims, The evidence for Evolution is overwhelming as the so called Evidence for Creation is None. Don't give me look at the sky or design crap, it's been debunked plenty of times. I guess you believe all Scientist are out to get you and have decided to accept a theory which if it was false would ruin their careers , however please go and try to find me some peer reviewed information proving Evolution to be false.

[dscolar]

u are one of the most irrational thinkers ive ever encountered on youtube. he didnt even mention anything about skies or design. he presented evidence upon evidence to support the young age of the earth. you just cant face the fact that all u guys do is to bring up outrageous and abstract conclusions to support ur blind claims.

[xxdjsethxx]

All his "Evidence" has been debunked by real Scientist, you know those people who went to colleges for a very long period and studied hard to get those degrees and a real one at that not one from a Diploma Mill. Have you even read Mr. Hovinds Dissertation? It's a laughable thing to even read. There is no scientific evidence that supports a young earth, go to any real scientist within geology (along w/ other areas) who has peer reviewed papers and ask them they will tell you it's a old earth.

[xxdjsethxx]

Now when I said do not give me the sky or design crap, is because many creationist I have met use the "design" method to try and prove creation/god. This is a logical fallacy in it self, I would love to see your evidence for creation, and give me something which have not been debunked plenty of times so please do.

The fact is Evolution is accepted and has been proven and without it you wouldn't have the advances in modern medicines that we do.

[xxdjsethxx]

Ontop of all this the percentage of people whom support Evolution is on the rise, as well as the percentage of people who claim "None" as a religion in the USA (Atheist , Agnostics are on the rise) Now if you look world wide the percentages are MUCH Higher and the Majority is now in the area of NONES, some of the only places where this is not the place is in the Middle East. So maybe you should move to there so you can be with your friends who also support magical characters eh?

[dscolar]

none of what u mention is related to the topic. dr. hovind's personal life or the percentage of fools who believe in the evolution delusion have nothing to do with the evidence supporting the existence of God. this is the only way you evolutionists can argue. besides i repeat dr. hovind made no mention of sky or design. it just like me saying im tired of hearing about your origin from rocks theory" be try to be more realistic, open, and unbiased to arguments of this nature. the evidence is clear

[xxdjsethxx]

Why are you dodging my questions and repeating the same shit? Unable to think for your self and need to have Hovind do your talking for you? I only used the sky/design part because many creationist use that, are u unable to understand that part? Again give me some evidence to support creation which has not been debunked via Scientific PEER REVIEWED Papers from REAL SCIENTIST, you know people with REAL DEGREES.

The rest I said was to see if you really have any clue where u stand...

[dscolar]

y r u obsessed with peer reviewed evidence that were made up to hide the truth. besides dont make the mistake of thinking that i am letting hovind do all my talking for me. i have done my own research and my own conclusions are similar to his. you claim to do research and read a lot but fail to read the one book that probably answers it all.. the bible. i urge you to read the bible not as a religious book but as a history book. perhaps your questions will be answered and u will gain knowledge.

[xxdjsethxx]

So you believe that all Scientist who support Evolution and an Old Earth are in a Global Conspiracy against creationist... REALLY? Is this going to be your basis of your argument?

I have read the Bible, I was a Christian until my late teens when I started to investigate the religion/bible it self, and then look into other religions and our earths past. I came to the conclusion that the Bible it self was written by man, Men whom at the time didn't know many things so took many parts

cont.

[xxdjsethxx]

They took many parts of the Bible from other religions, all the accounts of Jesus are from a 3rd party - word of mouth account. No real 1st person perspectives really came from it. Now the question that the Bible might have some Historical Facts is true, sure some of the cities, wars, kings, and other issues are true within it. However MUCH of the Bible is not and can not be proven. The worst part of the entire book IMO is the OT which is sick, twisted dogma beliefs. Wish to try again?

[dscolar]

now i see its no point arguing with evolutionists especially ones as sleek as you. you never stick to the topic or focus of the argument. i dont see how the new world order comes into this i made no mention of such a thing. again u were not a christian bcos if u were u wuld have prayed to God to help u understand the bible if you really read it at all. stop giving me lame excuses to justify man's foolish intelligence bcos that is d best way to describe evolutionists' and atheists' intelligence.

[xxdjsethxx]

Where did I bring up NWO? You clearly started that these Scientist who submit peer reviewed evidence make up and hide the truth, which would be considered a Global Conspiracy would it not? Your the one who said that Not me, so now your back peddling and being up illogical arguments. Then you proclaim I was not a Christian , or as many consider a "Real Christian?" Oh I am guessing you are and only people with your views are, however if someone whom was a "Christian" changes their views

cont.

[xxdjsethxx]

Then that person was never really a Christian to start with.. really? Your ignorance only shines in what you speak of. Sorry to break it to you, but evidence supports a Old Earth, and Evidence supports Evolution. As I said please submit some type of proof to support a young earth and creation which has not been debunked. HAVE AT IT!

[ferdnerkel]

@xxdjsethxx not to worry, my imaginary friend speaking through paul told us that this would happen just before he returns (2th 2;2-3) and we don't need to go to the M.E. because our gov will bring them here. our dept of homeland security says that i am more dangerous than osama bin laden. we are already being targeted by those who are responsible for our safety. besides when the time comes we will be killed to reinforce your delusion, most likely by muslims already here (rev 20;4)

[xxdjsethxx]

yep you got that from a Book, I can read Harry Potter too... good for you =P

[ferdnerkel]

Yep i got it from the bible and watching the evening news. welcome to the revelation of Jesus Christ!

[walter0bz]

Why does someone who has such a problem with timescales over and above that of his immiediate experience choose to beleive a book written THOUSANDS of years ago...

[walter0bz]

god did not create nature

god IS nature

or, much more acurately,

Nature IS god.

Man created God in Mans image - not the other way

[ghanamuscle2000]

Why does he refer to "Charlie" Lyell and "Charlie" Darwin? Is he actually unaware that they were named Charles, or is this some pathetic attempt to belittle them? How would YECs like it if people referred to "Harry" Morris, "Donny" Paxton or "Kirky" Cameron? And then he has the nerve to bleat about ad hominem attacks on him! Maybe if Kenty here didn't have his head stuck so far up his own arse he might be capable of expressing some crude form of logic. But until then...

[ghanamuscle2000]

So a researcher who studies the Great Barrier Reef and concludes it grows back is an "environmental wacko" wasting taxpayer money, but a 'researcher' who studies the Paluxy tracks and concludes erroneously that humans and dinosaurs co-existed is a hero of science. What complete and utter bullshit. I despise this man so much.

[archabe]

"I believe, 6000 years ago god created everything and 4400 years ago it was a flood"

If you tell a big lie often enough ppl will believe it. He said so himself while quoting hitler. And he has also admitted to be a lier.

[Dhesyca]

So much of what he says is just so WRONG...He does just enough research to find something he can use without finishing the research to find out how it really works. He's under-representing the information available.

And he has no understanding of geology at all...

[Stitchman3875]

8:45 did anybody catch that? So if it conforms to what Kent Hovind want's it to be, he accepts it. If it doesn't, we shouldn't trust it. Please Kent, do preach anymore, you are giving all of us Christians a bad name.

[joefx69]

This guys is truly unbelievable, nothing, NOTHING, he says makes any sense. Its true Pandering to the uneducated.

"Derrrr, it dont matter we cant read them book things, this funny man says its all fake anyway so why bother uhuh!"

[BohemianBlasphemy]

This charlatan is STILL going on about the "evolution says life came from a rock" thing!

How hopeless.

[BohemianBlasphemy]

How can anyone take this clown seriously?

[BohemianBlasphemy]

And I am SURE he is still preaching in jail. That's his job: To lie.

[Samson25877]

Scoffer number 23847237856123695

[charmer512]

It's a very lovely seminar and I quite enjoyed it.

Which year was this seminar done in? He went to jail in 2007 I believe, and I just want to know timeline differences.

[Maximuslnfidelis]

If any of you care at all about science and the truth you will think this guy is so annoying, how can you be such a liar and a Christian? Christianity = lie  That's how!

[artem1002]

man i love his seminars, so interesting and true, GOD BLESS U JOSH!

[jbbremerton]

i love how he keeps saying "i have a theory about that." awesome!!!!!!!

[thecommonsenseguy]

If anyone here is honestly interested in what science has to say about an old earth, i can tell snyone first hand why this planet is old and why there was no great flood, this is a take it or leave it opportunity. There is a reason 99% of scientists believe in an old earth, if you honestly are curious why, just send me a private message and ill give you information im sure you never considerred or even knew existed. I can tell you all you need to know and more, that is all.

[revan235]

i belive the earth is old but if u have any evidence im not aware of it would be great to read it please ^^

[thecommonsenseguy]

"i belive the earth is old but if u have any evidence im not aware of it would be great to read it please ^^"

well...to be honest, the evidence for an old earth is vast, and when put together...it is clear that it is the most logical conclusion.

the evidence consists of and is a summation of chemistry, laws and principles of geology and geography, physics, paleontology, genetics, biogeography, i mean...the evidence is vast, and it all fits together perfectly.

[thecommonsenseguy]

if there is a particular topic youre interested in, i can talk about it, and relate it to whatever evidence for an old earth it may have...but to simply ask me for evidence of an old earth is basically like asking me to tell you thousands upon thousands of lines of evidence, which would take very long, and though i dont mind talking about it, its hard to know where i should start, because honestly, there are just so many things.

[revan235]

oh ok thanks ^^ some1 already told me about a couple of books im gonna start searching, thanks for helping tho, its nice to see not all ppl think like kent hovind

[thecommonsenseguy]

"its nice to see not all ppl think like kent hovind"

yea...to be perfectly honest, i didnt even know people who think like hovind existed until i saw em on youtube...lol. Its a big world...and science speaks loud.

[meinaim]

if only 2 things he says are true, it def ridicules evolutionism, just take 2.

Then take one of his proofs and check Gods word.

God rules

[Dolirn]

If I were to say "Creationism is false," "The Bible is the holy book of Christianity," and "Evolution is a widely accepted theory among scientists," by your logic Creationism is false.

[meinaim]

well, no. :o)

The problem is that this discussion will never end, untill Jesus returns and the whole world will know.

There is proof for both sides of the story and after all it´s a question of believe.

The bible says clearly that non believers are willingly blind not to see Gods truth. They don´t want to accept God to be, so they search for evidence hat makes God unnecessary.

Well, this doesn´t make God disappear...

[jbbremerton]

yeah, God is so loving, He allows people to be idiots and not believe the truth! :-)

[TheRuthlessOnslaught]

Yup, he loves you that much! =)

[wiinux]

thanks for putting this stuff up! very interesting.

[Joshua271987]

Your welcome. :)

[123abcdme]

@Joshua271987 i'm glad you still have these videos on here even after all the ridicule

[Kelo60]

"Kent your a fucktard!" best song ever!

[TheRuthlessOnslaught]

I assume Kent's your name? =)

[memoryofakiss]

notice int description here says this video is NOT copyrighted.

seems odd given the current state of things on youtube.

bait and switch anyone?

[Nabs07]

Dragonfist, what do you think of Kent Hovind?

[dragonfist25]

I've always believed in God and when I heard Hovind for the first time it was like pouring gasoline on the fire.

To bad he is on lockdown now :-/ but it's all good. He can get the inmates saved.

[Nabs07]

Yeah, but he is a bit looney

[YadaYadaguy]

yeah inmates like white collar crimnals ...fresh meat anyone? kent better pray to GOD he knows how to fight lol cause the trailer bible school he went to didn't seem to have a physical Education area.

[Nabs07]

Hypocrites =)

[TheRuthlessOnslaught]

Hypocrite? he teaches Science for goodness sake. If he were teaching Taxes oh yeah clear hypocrite. Dummy =).

[ChristmasFruit]

Actually while he was in that jail cell he got most of them converted.

[Potoholic]

The only thing that got converted is his asshole.

[spurnthemuse]

@Potoholic You will find out, that you are not as secure, as you may think, in cursin and slanderin. The bad deed will always catch up to you, it has a life of its own, and will turn on its maker.

[Nabs07]

Lol? dragonfist? you there? =P

We are replying instantly, u gotta be on the other side... Morse code morse code!! =P haha

[dragonfist25]

LOL my bad, I went to go get a double cheese burger.

[Nabs07]

You better have a spare!! 0_0;;

[AtheistMaximus]

Just one question, when did the global flood happen? According to your video's it was around 2344 - 2343. What were other people in the world doing at this time? The Egyptians for instance kept on living, so did the Chinese. The step pyramid was built by pharaoh Netcherike-Djoser in 2630 BC, 286 years before the alleged flood of Noah. Jesus refers to the flood as if it is fact, so if the flood did not happen then that would at least call into question the accuracy of the Gospels.

[GunshipTrooper]

Kent Hovind converted me. Thank you HOVIND! <3

[Nabs07]

He didn't convert me o_O

[GunshipTrooper]

so?

[Nabs07]

Nevermind.

Just thought i might say that...

[Potoholic]

He converted you to a retard congratulations.

[swordslanga]

FREE HOVIND weather you agree with him or not do a little research and see Google America freedom to fascism and see for yourself this man is in Prison for a crime that has NO LAW

[aceSucksDick]

FUCK HOVIND. let that lying bastard rot in prison.

[GunshipTrooper]

I agree man!!! but athiest hate his guts more than anything. They rather put him in prison before they see cho in prison. (The virginia tech shooter) It's quite sad.

[Cupit29]

I thought fraud had a law against it...

[Boasziekelijk]

dr dino sucks dude

i'm from netherland so i can't debatte

[michaeld7]

Micro Evolution is species adapting to survive. Macro Evolution is Species becoming different Species. Some people don't even know what the religion of Evolution entails.

[Cupit29]

What? Some animals slowly adapted to survive in salt water? What a familiar theory..

[Cupit29]

I hate it when theists twist and misquote Darwin's words to fit their fantasies.

[dragonfist25]

"fit their fantasies."

Take a look at what YOU believe homie. YOU believe EVERYTHING in the universe came from a "dot"...

[Cupit29]

That's because everything in the universe is moving away from a single point, namely the centre of the universe.

[dragonfist25]

Hey man...I will pay you $500 bucks if you can make a table fit into a "dot".

[Nabs07]

u talking to me? o_O

It's impossible to do that unless u imagine it.

I will pay you £700 british pounds if you can find my house and collect the money. Lol

[dragonfist25]

Na man, I was talking to cupit29. He seems to think that everything in the universe came from a "dot" where "nothing exploded".

[Nabs07]

Oh yes. Oh boy what a stupid theory huh?

[Nabs07]

Furthermore, these evolutionists actually claim that there is a supposed "pre existing - always eternal universe that existed always, wayyyyy before our own Ooooo. Amazing huh? Or does that just sound ridiculous?

Evolutionists dont want to admit a God exists, so instead of taking His attributes and applying it to a fake God they actually force feed us this shit to believe where the REAL universe and everything else came from. Ooooo

[dragonfist25]

That's way when I get into a debate with a evolutionists I go straight to the core and ask, "What happened before the "dot" exploded?" And I usually get a .........

[Trzcinka77]

Let Steven Hawkins answer you, "Asking what was before Bing Bang was like asking what lies more northly on earth than The North Pole". Now go to your church and dont try to teach scientists what is science, you are nor smart enough nor talented to learn proper science.

[dragonfist25]

...what was before "Bing Bang" was like...

...you are "nor smart" enough nor talented to learn proper science.

Are you trying to be ironic? ;-)

[Nabs07]

They're ripping pages out of Genesis' book and shaping it into their money making stupid theories.

[Cupit29]

dragonfist...you weary me..you really do.

[dragonfist25]

Is that supposed to be an insult?

[Nabs07]

God is eternal. It's obvious they've snatched this away from God and made it part of their theory.

They want to shut us up about a God by saying the universe had ALWAYS existed and is ALWAYS eternal. That's taken a page out of Genesis' book. o_O

[dragonfist25]

LOOL, EXACTLY..

[Cupit29]

An atomic explosion is a massive amount of energy, all from a single point. And before the big bang is wheer science ends so that's why evolutionists don't know. My saying that Dustin Hoffman did it is just as valid as your saying god did. It's philosophy. The laws of physics were created in the bang, so it's impossible to say what came before it. You obviously know nothing about the theory of evolution or any SCIENTIFIC theory for that matter.

[Nabs07]

And you obviously know NOTHING about God. So quit shitting on our character, poor attempt.

[Cupit29]

Did you even go to school..?

[Nabs07]

What? Today? Yeah of course i did, wanna know how it went down? =)

Where should i start... Ummmmmmm =/

[Cupit29]

Furthermore, if everything in the universe is moving away from a single point in the universe(and we know this due to a useful concept known as mathematics), then what's the conclusion? Oh yeah, I forgot...it was OBVIOUSLY god..

[dragonfist25]

Was that an attempt at sarcasm?

[Cupit29]

Well spotted.

[Nabs07]

Doesn't mean he should be tossed in prison for it.

What kind of fraud was he accused for?

[YadaYadaguy]

stealing taxes ...he stole money and thanks to his im a science teacher speech (another lie)people believe this crap...

[calamariaxo]

The reef argument falls upon it's own fallacy, and has been explained to many times to count.

The age of niagara falls != the age of the earth.

It probably originated around 7000 years ago.

Limestone stalactites from calcium carbonate and stalactites formed from calcium hydroxide form at very different rates. This is observable physical evidence.

And again. Nothing evolved from a "rock".

[Epyon42]

lol, this guy is so mind numbing. He agrees with the report about the barrier reef because it backs up his position, but any other estimate on anything disagreeing with him is now wrong. It's just so painful to see someone so pleasantly deluded in his own conspiracy theories. Also, he's in jail for tax fraud.

[GunshipTrooper]

I love how aethiest get so defensive over their own religion that they have to bring up this guys taxes. He was never in jail you can youtube it if you don't believe me.

[Epyon42]

He's currently in the United States Penitentiary, Atlanta (a high security prison). I bring it up because he is a long list of religious snake oil salesmen. You buy into his crap, and then are *surprised* to find out that you got dupped by someone just in it for the money. These people prey on fundamental Christians, they are so willing to give their money to the church and they will swallow just about anything, as evidenced from this video.

[GunshipTrooper]

Then why would he bother to donate his time? anyways either or, doesn't matter he debugged the evolution theory.

[Epyon42]

Does the fact that he is currently serving 10 years for stealing money people like you donated mean nothing to you? The guy is a swindle, a hack, a liar. He didn't "debug" anything. What would it take to convince you that this convict is not someone to look up to?

[soolkyut]

Donate his time? I can't count how many times he plugs his products for you to buy... there is no donation going on he is running a business. and he has "debunked" nothing

[dragonfist25]

EXACTLY