It's not often you hear someone say this, but it really is a shame that they stopped taking drugs.. "The drugs don't work" Richard?? Please reffer to the above clip and compare with Sonnet. Exactly.
First Verve song I heard, back in the Summer of '92....... Doesn't seem like nearly 20 years ago.
Just finished my GCSE's and was looking to head to college, Verve became the soundtrack to my mid to late teens. Listening to those 12" EP's, A Storm In Heaven and singles like Where The Geese Go take me straight back to those carefree days.
Same Ashcroft and McCabe could never get along, but history is full of great men whose collaborations were immense, but never lasted.
@kbdevo1962 Good lyrics doesn't make it not boring. He's a good lyrics, but a terrible songwriter by himself IMO. The Verve's best songs were collaboration efforts.
@Zehydra106 Ok Music is subjective so while YOU may not like it I do . And I think some of Ashcrofts songs from his solo efforts rival most of the music Verve made . Not all but most. .That includes the first LP BTW . Songs like Brave New World are absolute gems , But I am a fan of both Ashcroft's solo stuff and Verve . I like 4 as much as self titled 1 And Northern Soul and Urban Hymns .
They seem like a completely different entity to the boring ballad-heavy bilge of later (which may have coincided with when they had to put 'The' in front of the band name). Ashcroft resembles something that should be lurking in the basement of the movie 'Performance'. Completely off this planet. The great days before he disappeared up his own arsehole.
@ultramegaunknown Me 2! I love eraly Verve. That's because they where more into psychedelic music back then. Now they are a really bad band unfortunately.
@ziribai To be honest, I enjoy their more contemporary stuff, and I found out about the band through "Urban Hymns", but once I found their early work.... there really is no comparison for me.
It's miles deeper than their newer work, and it isn't as accessible to the masses, because many people don't seem to like to "think" when they listen to their music, they just want something catchy playing for 3 minutes. That's fine, though.... it's more personal that way anyways.
@ultramegaunknown Same here, i found out about them through "Urban Hymns", which i bought at the time. Last track of that album, "Come on", it totally blew me away, and was only later i realized their early works were a lot better and deep than any other album. These guys are really good, it's a shame that they strive to sell records instead of making art. I don't like catchy-3-minute-tunes, i like it long, epic and magical like Gravity Grave.
@ziribai I agree with you. I think it's because Ashcroft started crafting more songs on his own, instead of the band. You notice how many songs on "Urban Hymns", particularly the pop songs, are credited to him alone. More rocking songs like "The Rolling People" were written by all members. I think McCabe in particular contributes to the psychedelic writings of the band.
And they need to release a B-side album!!!!!
Their B-sides are excellent. "You and Me", "Change My Life", "So Sister"...
@ultramegaunknown Change My Life wasn't a B-Side, it was only played live. I'd chew my right arm off for a studio version of it. Brilliant song that should have made one of their E.Ps for sure. I don't much care for So Sister. They had a demo called "Oh Sister" which is a much better track.
Have you noticed that the clock on the sand is the same that is on the wall on the Verve Ep cover? And both are showing the same hour. Interesting...
IMpsychomancer 3 months ago
It's not often you hear someone say this, but it really is a shame that they stopped taking drugs.. "The drugs don't work" Richard?? Please reffer to the above clip and compare with Sonnet. Exactly.
whaeflungdung 3 months ago
@whaeflungdung that plus his ego got way too big.
dermastersize 2 months ago
First Verve song I heard, back in the Summer of '92....... Doesn't seem like nearly 20 years ago.
Just finished my GCSE's and was looking to head to college, Verve became the soundtrack to my mid to late teens. Listening to those 12" EP's, A Storm In Heaven and singles like Where The Geese Go take me straight back to those carefree days.
Same Ashcroft and McCabe could never get along, but history is full of great men whose collaborations were immense, but never lasted.
TheYorkMan 6 months ago 2
Boring Ballads ? Ashcroft has some of the best lyrics in the biz. Just because they switched from Shoegaze to Britpop does not make them boring...
kbdevo1962 6 months ago
@kbdevo1962 Good lyrics doesn't make it not boring. He's a good lyrics, but a terrible songwriter by himself IMO. The Verve's best songs were collaboration efforts.
Zehydra106 5 months ago
@Zehydra106 Ok Music is subjective so while YOU may not like it I do . And I think some of Ashcrofts songs from his solo efforts rival most of the music Verve made . Not all but most. .That includes the first LP BTW . Songs like Brave New World are absolute gems , But I am a fan of both Ashcroft's solo stuff and Verve . I like 4 as much as self titled 1 And Northern Soul and Urban Hymns .
kbdevo1962 5 months ago
They seem like a completely different entity to the boring ballad-heavy bilge of later (which may have coincided with when they had to put 'The' in front of the band name). Ashcroft resembles something that should be lurking in the basement of the movie 'Performance'. Completely off this planet. The great days before he disappeared up his own arsehole.
observationpoint 1 year ago
wow this makes me meloncoly of the past
futuremason4301 1 year ago
The early stuff pisses on Urban Hymns etc.......Got this on 12'' Vinyl when it came out. Fuck me it just seems like yesterday......Time flies man.
CaptainKubla 1 year ago
@CaptainKubla 1992, a great summer listening to those impressive 12" EP's. Damn it does feel like yesterday, but over half a lifetime ago.
TheYorkMan 1 year ago
LOVE the Verve.... especially early Verve!!!
ultramegaunknown 2 years ago 23
yeah so true ..blue .all in the mind.. at their best
wwillow1 2 years ago 16
@ultramegaunknown Me 2! I love eraly Verve. That's because they where more into psychedelic music back then. Now they are a really bad band unfortunately.
ziribai 1 year ago
@ziribai To be honest, I enjoy their more contemporary stuff, and I found out about the band through "Urban Hymns", but once I found their early work.... there really is no comparison for me.
It's miles deeper than their newer work, and it isn't as accessible to the masses, because many people don't seem to like to "think" when they listen to their music, they just want something catchy playing for 3 minutes. That's fine, though.... it's more personal that way anyways.
ultramegaunknown 1 year ago
@ultramegaunknown Same here, i found out about them through "Urban Hymns", which i bought at the time. Last track of that album, "Come on", it totally blew me away, and was only later i realized their early works were a lot better and deep than any other album. These guys are really good, it's a shame that they strive to sell records instead of making art. I don't like catchy-3-minute-tunes, i like it long, epic and magical like Gravity Grave.
ziribai 1 year ago
@ziribai I agree with you. I think it's because Ashcroft started crafting more songs on his own, instead of the band. You notice how many songs on "Urban Hymns", particularly the pop songs, are credited to him alone. More rocking songs like "The Rolling People" were written by all members. I think McCabe in particular contributes to the psychedelic writings of the band.
And they need to release a B-side album!!!!!
Their B-sides are excellent. "You and Me", "Change My Life", "So Sister"...
ultramegaunknown 1 year ago
@ultramegaunknown Nice to know, so one could say Ashcroft is responsible for the actual state of the band. If only they heard McCabe!
ziribai 1 year ago
@ultramegaunknown Change My Life wasn't a B-Side, it was only played live. I'd chew my right arm off for a studio version of it. Brilliant song that should have made one of their E.Ps for sure. I don't much care for So Sister. They had a demo called "Oh Sister" which is a much better track.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@ultramegaunknown what year is this from?
snbORdie 9 months ago
@snbORdie 1992, I think.
ultramegaunknown 9 months ago
Great to see the full version of Gravity Grave is up- the psychedelic jam over the last 4 minutes is amazing!
cmc0405 2 years ago 11
oh yes - one of my all-time favourites!
BlueRuby32 3 years ago 10
Great song!
verveverveverve 3 years ago 10