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  • It won't work for me

  • Is there a soft reset available for the Kin 1

  • @Pickk111 Someone in the comments said that it's the same thing. Try at your own risk.

  • i tried this bu all i did was wipe out EVERYTHING i had and i didnt even give me the option to do it... :(

  • @Bbswaqq2 LIke I mentioned in the beginning of the video, it is possible that your phone won't change and instead will just reset. It all depends on the type of model.

  • Do you have to pay a data plan if you do this? Or does verizon add on any charges?

  • @SuperPacman87channel No I do not have a data plan, and verizon doesn't add any charges. When you do this reset, it keeps the same exact connection you had with verizon as you had before you reset.

  • everyone thumbs up so that people will know on the kin one

  • thank you big help man!

  • Hey, you think you can make a video on showing us newbie kin twom user how to import contact? I have no idea how to do it, tried syncing it with email and it not doing so.

  • @itzthatvietguy I've actually never imported contacts before, but I know there's a way and a tool to do it. I'll look into it and see what I can do. If I figure out how to do it, I'll make a video. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • OS doesnt have a calculator!!!!

  • HAAAAAAX!!

  • My screen doesent go to the downgrading screen it just goes to all the pictures

  • @dumbcrazycrap333 So it just restarts you mean? I know that can happen with certain models where the Original OS wasn't put on another part of the phone. If it restarts and goes back into the Kin Twom OS, then this won't work.

  • @boovish No, it doesn't with the onem.

  • LINUX USER!! FINALLY!!

  • @ClaireZeVideo Haha yeah. I use both Windows and Linux.

  • @TheIggyTech same :)

  • Thank you

  • And will this work for the onem

  • @boovish No you don't need a data plan but that's mostly because the actual Kin Loop and social networking/cloud backup service are gone. This won't let you connect to it because it's been taken down by Microsoft. Idk if this will work on the Kin Onem. Sorry.

  • Does it still need a data plan

  • LINUX FTW!!!

  • I tried this, since my Kin is in an infinite loop on the updating modem screen. Didn't work.  :/

  • @tribal673 Ah yeah Johnkussack had that issue too on one of his Kins. This probably wouldn't solve that issue unfortunately. Best idea is to check out the xda developer forums and search "Kin Two", as if theirs every a solution for that, you'd probably find it their. Also, you could try bringing it to Verizon and see if they have any solutions.

  • @tribal673 wow. that sucks. old OS software is ok. except kin service doesn't exist anymore.

  • hey do you loose all of your data or do you have to back everything up because i got this phone for this reason only please message back

  • @Markus019 Yes you lose all the data that was on your phone when you do this. Contacts, photos, texts, everything. So if you want to back up, do so. Just remember that the Loop and social networking features are not working, so it's more of a downgraded OS vs the one you already have running (Kin Twom OS)

  • Will verizon be able to tell if you have changed it back?

  • @supercarrotgirls not that I know of. I mean if you keep it in the original OS, then obviously they would notice if you brought it to them, but other than that, they shouldn't be able to tell.

  • HELP: if i am in my car driving somewhere, and i just check my loop, will i be charged? also, is there the calculator and calender and alarm clock?

  • @animallover851 Can't use the loop. The service that pinged the phones with the social networking data is gone forever, so the loop is a broken feature. The calculator and calendar aren't in the old Os, so no theirs none of that, I think theirs an alarm clock though. 

  • will this mess up the data plan?

  • @ibechristen I don't have a data plan so I can't really test if it will, but from what I know, doing this to your phone won't change the activation at all, it'll just be a slightly different os running on it.

  • Wil I still be able to recieve messages, and my kin will stay activated?

  • @yardman917 As far as I know, yes. My phone was still activated after I did this (though to be honest, I didn't try calling or anything) but when I checked my phone's settings, it claims to still be activated. So yes (95%)

  • It does work on the Kin Onem, but the loop doesn't work (therefore it wouldn't make any sense to reset it, eh?)

  • @MrCatolin I'm not sure if anyone has tested it on a kin onem, but in theory it should work. However yes, because the loop doesn't work, theirs really no great advantage to switching back.

  • i cant recieve messages now but i can send them and i cant recieve calls but i can call ppl is there a fix for this

  • @tmarlin123 hmmm never heard of this happening. Are you back on the Kin Twom OS? If you are, you could probably try bringing it to the Verizon store and see if they have any idea what's wrong.

  • can u upgrade back??

  • @tmarlin123 Yep. I actually show how to do it in the video. Turn off your phone, and do exactly the same thing you did to downgrade to the Kin OS. Then it'll bring you back to the Kin Twom Os.

  • Free advertizing for stride :)

    

  • @281087sss As if they needed any :)

  • Rj Berger.....

  • Well I would respond to some of these questions if you guys didn't keep removing them.

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  • The loop doesn't even work anymore? Sad! I can understand no more studio, but the looop? :( they coulda at least just restricted it to wi-fi...

    anyway, i have a kin twom and it's real neat. The zune app works GREAT, and it has a decent browser for something that is considered by its carrier a 'dumb-phone'

  • @almann1117 Yeah but when the Kin Two first came out, it had a nice big 3G plan you were forced to pay for. Microsoft made it so that it connected to their "cloud based" network instead of wifi knowing that you were going to have to pay for a 3G plan. Either way, :(

  • Does the loop work im confused

  • @MrJensenX the Loop is the social network ping system with Twitter and Facebook. That network was controlled by the Kin Studio which is gone forever, thus making it impossible to get the Loop to work. So no the Loop does not work.

  • @TheIggyTech If I don't have a data plan on the old version, will the charge me (only will use on wi-fi)

    if I do this even if I don't use 3g?

  • so if i buy a kin two.... i can still update it to the kin twom OS and not need the data plan?

  • @MrTroy354 The original Kin Two? I'm assuming this is off of ebay or something but as for that, I think those got updated by Microsoft automatically to the new Kin Twom os. I'm not positive on that so try searching around to see if it got updated.

  • @TheIggyTech yah on ebay there are some kin two's... so im not sure if i shuld get one because of whether i can update it or not

  • @MrTroy354 From what I saw while looking around, the Kin Two's were all updated by Microsoft. If the one you buy isn't take it to verizon and you should be able to have them update.

  • @TheIggyTech good idea! ill call them up and ask if they can do it. thanks for the help!

  • Biggest question ... when you do it to the original state the OS version it's going to charge you the data plan on verizon right and will it be connected to verizon as ur phone

  • @asrlf0822 yes its automatically connected to Verizon Wireless. It connects to the same activation you had on the Kin Twom OS. As for data charging, I'm not sure. You can ask around on Xda-developer forums if you want.

  • got a new kin onem and it worked=) but the loop doesnt, i dont really care for the loop....

  • Is there a way to tell which TWOm I have (capable to downgrade to the OG software)?

    Also, if I can downgrade, would I be able to utilize the Facebook option via WIFI?

    Thanks!

  • @vicpim74 Yes there is a post in the xda developer forums on which type of phone will work. No facebook will not work with the Kin Loop because Kin Studio was taken down awhile ago by Microsoft, thus ending any transmission for the Kin Loop.

  • i have tried this on my kin onem and all it did was reset my device, maybe it is because the software version, because i have read on xda developers site and a person said he did this on his kin onem and it works maybe it is because the software version...

  • how do you undo it?

    

  • @dirtbiker65cc just do the same hold r+b+power and it will go back to the kin twom software..

  • does this work on the kin onem

  • @96awesomestuff It hasn't been tested on the Kin Onem as far as I know. So the answer is "no clue".

  • great i tried it and it didnt work now i have to update all my contacts again. fuck....

  • @iFartallday Sorry but that is the risk. :( I still haven't updated my contacts fully.

  • mine wont work!?!? can you help me

  • @TheAlabama98 If it didn't convert back, it means you have a newer model Kin Twom and it doesn't have the Original Os on there in the first place. If you followed all the instructions and it just reset into the Kin Twom software, that's the reason. 

  • THE OS...IT LURKS!!! :D

  • With the old OS, does it list the web site that the (loop)kin studio connected to? can we create or use another cloud like server to get that loop up and running? Hell, maybe even stay with MS and use the skydrive? I definaltey have the model that can revert back so I would love to pursue a possible working loop. :)

  • @MSfanboy80 no idea how it works really besides that it connects to Kin Studio. sounds like a cool idea though.

  • so does the loop and the spot really work if you downgrade it?

  • @hooptydunkty the Loop doesn't work because the Kin Studio (the cloud based servers that ran the Loop way back then) are off forever. The spot however, does work (like I showed in my video)

  • To transfer contacts go to your local verizon store with the kin and your older phone they will transfer the contacts data and maybe pictures to the kin. The zune software connects your phone to the computer but is difficult to get it to sync, I'll get back to you on that

  • it wont work for my phone....everytime i take my habds off the buttons it goes to teh verizon sign....tehn it starts up like it usually does...it just reseted my phone...NOTHING ELSE!!! helpp me plzz!!....and for some reason i got a huge "!" on my screen for a second...WTF!

  • @DANCERSOCT Um first of all, I read your first comment. No need to repost. Second, if you've read what I said in the comments as well as annotations and my video description, this doesn't work for all models. Newer model Kin Twom's don't work because they never had the Original OS but older Kin Twom models work because they were originally loaded with the Original OS before Microsoft decided to stop selling them as Kin Two's and then switched over to the Kin Twom.

  • it wont work for my phone....everytime i take my habds off the buttons it goes to teh verizon sign....tehn it starts up like it usually does...it just reseted my phone...NOTHING ELSE!!! helpp me plzz!!

  • My Kin wont do this.... what do I do?

  • @Kadawg4 I believe this means you have a new Kin Twom. Its a bit confusing but what happened is that when the Original Kin 2 was retired and the Kin Twom was released, a lot of left over Kin two originals were sold off with the Kin Twom OS on it. But in the bottom of the Kin Twom's, the Original Os still lurks. Because of this, some Kin Twom's can revert back to the Original Kin OS. However, newer devices that never had the Original OS on it can't revert because the OS isn't on it.

  • @Kadawg4 Also, look at the link in the video description and find a forum post called "Kin (Two) Hotkeys". By the 2nd to 3rd page, there's some discussion about what version of the Kin 2m can revert and which can't. There's also a link to a forum post that discusses (with pictures) the whole "New Kin twom and Old Kin Twom" on the 3rd page.

  • My YouTube on the kin won't work

  • @applefan1997 You mean in the Original OS? I'm not sure if It was ever working in the original OS. However, I do know that if you try a shorter video thats not HQ (on the Kin Twom OS at least) it can be watched.

  • do you have to pay extra for the social networking and spot for the Original OS

  • @TECRH The Spot is free. However, if you happened to read below, I've mentioned that the Kin Studio is gone which means no more social networking features.

  • So if I turn data roaming off will it charge me? And wow I post way to much on this video

  • @applefan1997 Haha it's alright. What I did was turned Airplane Mode on in the wireless settings section. Unfortunately, this also blocks any data (phone calls, texts, etc.) from coming through.

  • my acconts wont conncet to my phone?

  • @applefan1997 You mean when you boot into the Original Kin OS? Yes I know. Because the Kin Studio doesn't exist anymore, it just comes up as an error instead of connecting to your accounts. Sucks I know but we can't really do anything about it.

  • can u do a video on how to put angry birds on kin

  • @SuperCoonandfriends Um well apps first of all don't work on the Kin currently. John Kussack is still trying to get apps on it though. And on a side note, I personally despise angry birds so yeah.

  • Ya sorry posted before finishing the video

  • And does it charge u data

  • Sorry can u re-update it back to kin two m?

  • @applefan1997 yes as I showed in the video you can go to Original Kin OS, but by doing the same key combo when the device is off, you can revert back to the Kin Twom OS. I don't know if it charges you data when your in the Original Kin OS but I put it in Airplane mode just in case.

  • Can u reupgrade it back to the kin to

  • @zjorda456 Beats me. I'm just showing how to do it if for some insane reason you want to downgrade, you can. This is more of a proof of concept than an actual use. Most people won't want to lose everything and the old os isn't really worth it. I agree. But there may be people who really like that Kin Spot or are trying to hack it through using an old OS flaw, you never know. This video just explains it and what happens when you downgrade.

  • Does it activate OK on Verizon's network? Does everything work fine? And since it used to have to have the unlimited data plan, does it eat through data trying to connect to the Loop and Studio? Thank you!

  • @codymws I personally haven't tried messing with any of the Kin Studio features or anything like that. Yes it does activate on Verzion's network without any issues. Kin studio doesn't exist so you basically can't connect or use any features related to the Kin Studio. The Loop is connected through Studio so it doesn't work. I have no idea if anything is eating at my data when I'm activated on the old kin software so I just put it in Airplane mode when I'm using it.

  • @TheIggyTech Ok, thank you. I'll just stick to the Kin TWOm OS. ;)

  • Nice video nice to see people hacking that thing :) keep up the videos

  • Do you know how to get to the secret menu?

  • @Caaaaaaaaaaaaaseyy Yes. All you need to do is go to your phone app and type in the number "##77647266488" and the program code is "000000". I wouldn't try messing around with too much there as you could end up with a messed up phone if you don't know what your doing.

  • Just tryed this with my Kin twom and all it did was reset it to the normal Kintwom software. I now have to reset everything

  • @l3estSh0tz Like I mentioned, go to the Kin 2 xda-developers page for more detailed info on how to do this. You might end up just doing that. It depends on which model of the Kin 2m you have. However, I will put up some warning now that you've mentioned this.

  • There are a few tricks that you didn't cover/use in the video. I'll use those on mine.

  • @Antonpup I know. This video was just on how to do this specific function.

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