Marie Antoinette: The Last Queen of France (part9/12)

[amyrat151]

5:39

A timid person MA was not. Instead of getting scared she was pissed off and ended up sounding a lot like her mother.

[annazt11]

A million dead in the war?? So meaningless! And so many killed in the great terror!

[MrAssholeTan98]

If I were them I won't take anything and just take a simple bullock cart all the way 2 Austria

[reszikora]

It is so sad to know how close they were to getting their freedom, even sadder to know what happened to them and their son in the end game. They were so much the prisoners of their times and positions. I been to V.P. I can understand how they would have been so out of touch with the world they were not allowed see.

[MrHeadSet1]

they should have escaped to belgium first

[davidsegun]

@MrHeadSet1 belgium was also an enemy i think

[VocalRuns]

if only they had the common sense to travel without grandeur... sigh....

[nunocbf]

Europe payed very harshly this "revolution": wars, million of dead, extrusion by Bonaparte's armies, occupations, murder of people. Just in Portugal, the french invasions provoked more than 20% of population casualties. Not speaking about the generalised robbery who still being today in french museums and private homes.

[cleanhomer]

@nunocbf So basically, the French Revolution caused as much damage as Nazi Germany did- without the systematic genocide. (I thought of that when you said "20% of Portugal dead" reminded me Poland being 20% dead from WWII.)

[nunocbf]

@cleanhomer Precisely what I mean. The toll was high, extremely expensive. Here, the State moved the capital to Rio de Janeiro. During the WWII, other governments fled to London or Cairo, but in the beginning of the 19th century, Brazil was a part of the Portuguese crown, avoiding the surrender to Bonaparte's projects.

[himissalice7]

Ok, escaping in a grand carriage may not be the best idea, but to call MA and Louis "stupid" is harsh and too much. I'm sure they were too much in a panic, too filled with anxiety and fear, to think things over to every last detail. Even if you have years to plan an escape, if you were as young as they were and scared for your life, you'd make BIG mistakes too.

[SILVERTINKER4578]

dude 23 years are you kidding me that's how long the war lasted

[Mr1958louief]

June 20th was not a good day for them!

[Slivatar]

You can' t really feel sorry for them - MA and Louis were plain stupid with that grand escape. People that arrogant and pompous were destined to be caught. 

Even when their lives were at stake they had to make their above status visible - hello, here' s one royal couple fleeing the country in the shiny new carriage.

Ridiculous.

[islandblind]

Escaping in a golden carriage seems only slightly more intelligent than fleeing on a fire engine with its siren blaring and its lights flashing. Had the royal couple escaped, I suspect that history would have played out very differently. Of course, we'll never know for sure.

[akissy]

Napoleon got a far better treatment when he was exiled,. And Marie and Louis, who didn't deserve to be treated like that and beheaded got the treatment Napoleon deserved... Why is the people so stupid? Anyways, what did the revolution brought to them? And I'm not talking about modern times, but about that century. The poor remained poor and the aristocrats remained aristocrats... nothing changed in reality... all because the lazy wanted what the rest had...

[meredithkuz]

@theamericanevita I don't think they should have killed them either, but people thought differently back then. To them, making the revolution permanent and absolute meant wiping the slate clean by killing the royal family. It's really sad but true:/

[RLviddy]

Marie's idea to escape. Louis' idea to escape in style. Marie's desire to fetch the Austrian army herself on horseback. But nooo, mustn't make Louis look bad. I think they wanted to die.

[RaInBowVeEiNs]

oh my gee could you be anymore retarded??? think of your children!!!! when you sneak out of your house you don't just hop in the shiniest car you see and expect to get past state boundaries!!!!

[TheAmericanEvita]

Savages! Monsters! Did you not see that Marie was a mother of children ? Her eldest daughter survived the Revolution but did go through a nightmare during imprisonment and later knowing what had happened to her parents. She had the memory of being loved and protected by Marie, who did her best to save the monarchy FOR THE SAKE OF HER CHILDREN. The French should have just sent her, Louis & the kids into exile, not killed them.

[IceEyedBlackWolf]

I think they should have worn regular clothes, cut their hair or whatever else to make them look normal, only travel at night and ride individual horses instead of riding in that fancy carriage.

[HazieRox]

1-800-VIENNA.

lmfao.

[iorixs]

who started spreading those pamphlets i wonder. freemasons and the voodoo cult?

[itsmister2u]

@Blush true' true. You are a product of your enviroment. The King/Queen only knew how to behave as royalty could. They road in style.

[RSCII]

What a horrifying experience - the 4 slow days back to Paris.

[lunalovegood34]

"...when they were spotted by a former cavalry man." OH SHIT

[TheSunIsBlack]

these people were absolutely baffled concerning basic reality--crazyness

[LILBUDDYRaffa]

haha 1-800 Vienna cute :)

[inneruniverse17]

23 years of war? Wow.

Marie was a very strong women; it's such a shame that there aren't many women like her in the present day.

[MrsNemonina]

@inneruniverse17 oh shut up, of course there are many like her, suffering war but being strong...don't glorify the past...that's so fucking cliché

[inneruniverse17]

@MrsNemonina The past must be glorified, for it molded the shape of the present....... There aren't many women like Marie at the present, many of them are depending on men to nurture them because they simply feel that they can't do it for themselves.

[lee3051]

@inneruniverse17 Lets face it there are woman like that present and past. The only difference the helpless woman from today are in the public eye more often then the strong women vice versa for the women of the past.

[yayayarelis]

wow...if i was married to a man like this king...i would have left him a long time ago. why stay with a man that didnt know what to do in any circumstances?? pishh, i would of been like "bump you, ill do this my darn self. peace!"

[RLviddy]

@yayayarelis MA should have left the king behind the moment he whined about Fersen.

[MystroTheDefender]

@RLviddy he whined because Axel was forern, if they found out he'd helped it maight have cause a war with that country, and it would make the royal family look weak.

[CristinaBellex]

oh they were so evil with the whole pamphlets thing. Not even society today is so disgusting to the people who deserve it.

[lavinder11]

In her latter years she seemed to be a woman who is very aware of herself.

I love Lever's pronunciation.

[JaneeAddy]

Why on earth didn't Louis and Marie disguise themselves instead of leaving the castle in the grandeur of their statehood?

[seekerskeptic]

@JaneeAddy

I know! They were so close!

[starquant]

@JaneeAddy That's a really excellent question. I think (rightly or wrongly), that they simply did not know any better.

[legendary0006]

@JaneeAddy, They all were disguised, dressed in simple apparel, even the dauphin dressed as a young girl. However, it was the king who was reconised due to his strinking appearance.

[leelee94565]

@JaneeAddy because all they knew was royal ettiquette which was what prescribed all those bells and whistles..... and no one thought to tell them to tone it down

[LaSerpentaCanta]

@JaneeAddy They didn't leave the castle in statehood, Marie was dressed as a maid and Louis in a merchant's dress if I'm not mistaken.

[CaitlinSk]

@LaSerpentaCanta Its also said that they would have been okay if Louis hadn't looked out the window and back. Someone saw him and recognized him

[LaSerpentaCanta]

@CaitlinSk Yes but the real problem is that they took too long to reach the location where a loyal small army was waiting for them. The general in command thought they had been caught or weren't going to arrive and panicked and simply left with his army. By the time they got there the post was deserted and they had to go into Varennes completely alone, and parallel to that, two men had already recognized them and were alerting the authorities at Varennes. It's a nervewracking story, intense.

[LaSerpentaCanta]

@CaitlinSk But of course, the whole enterprise was doomed since the moment the King didn't want Fersen to accompany them. Fersen was decisive, a quick soldier, knew how to react in an emergency, and his absence was fatal for the King and Queen.

[BlushResponse1]

@JaneeAddy I'm not excusing this folly!, but their royal...royalty is all they knew, this was the only way they knew how to travel, of course to their deprament...

[WinterHaven]

@JaneeAddy  Ego.

[MrJtr75]

@JaneeAddy They had tradition shoved down their throats their whole life. They didn't really know better, didn't have "common" sense.

[poo0115104]

I think MA's husband appears to have had serious anxiety issues which is further proven by his apparent fears of sex.......even though some of his depression, im sure, was due to the circumstances.

[pcbb01]

@poo0115104 impotence = weakness

[gothicash]

Thank you so much for this!!

[maisondecouture]

thank u for uploading... we all are waiting for the rest . thanks.. please dont take too long... :)

[Bottebuh]

I want to see the last part!!!