It already is good enough for congress. They have govt healthcare. So if it's good enough for congress, it's good enough for the people that put them there.
Joe, you are a hero. I guess booing George a few years back was not a big deal to everyone. You are one man that was able to be singled out. Don't let these people get you down. There aren't so many powerful people in Washington. It's the American people the Congress and Senate need to worry about- not you. Rock on, Joe!
Dont let 'em get ya down joe!!when harry reid apologizes to gw bush then maybe you would too,lol...i'm going to contribute to your campaign fund God Bless you!!the liberals cant handle the same that they dish out...
chipper and hate- You both seem to think that being in the millitary doesn't earn you health care. You say hypocritical when EVERYONE has the oppurtunity he had to serve and protect. If he rails against it, I'm sure it's because he's seen it not working first hand. Hatehasnotworked- You admit that he and 4 sons fight and defend this country. If that's not being deserving of health care I dont know what is. One more time so you get it--- THATS NOT FREE ---its earned.
a retired Army National Guard colonel Joe wilson with four sons in the military, he and his family enjoy free military Medicare coverage, known as Tricare. Tricare is a single-payer system and covers 9.5 million people. Though Wilson enjoys Tricare, he has voted 11 times against health care for veterans in eight years.
"a retired Army National Guard colonel Joe wilson with four sons in the military, he and his family enjoy free military Medicare coverage" How the hell is it free if they served their country for it?
I read the votes...it didn't give reasons behind the bills just numbers. In my opinion give the veterans whatever they want. They WORK harder then the rest of us, but that doesn't negate the fact that Wilson was right in what he said. Military medical is never FREE, so don't disrespect that point.
I just did a Yahoo search on 'bush nazi' which returned 31,000,000 results. Then I searched on 'obama nazi' and got 40,900,000 results. So you tell me, which one has been labeled a nazi more often? And Obama has only been President for 9 months! Also, no, what Joe Wilson did was wrong and he should hear it from all of us. Your very own youtube profile page talks about the breakdown of public discourse. Can you imagine what kind of a message it would send if BOTH parties stood up...
What Joe Wilson did was very partisan in its results. Where were these democrats when they booed Bush when he was giving a televised speech infront of congress? That discord is appropriate?
Also the statistic you quoted about healthiest nations is slanted. It comes from a survey that automatically gives points for having a socialized option. The US also counts for any death. Most of the countries you mentioned have clauses that hide their true health problem and mortality rate.
I didn't actually quote a statistic or cite a source, so not sure what you think is slanted. If you don't think those countries are among the healthiest, then I would love to see your top ten list. Please enlighten us all.
If you do not agree with what I said, which was 'countries with socialized medicine programs like Norway, Holland, Canada, Denmark, etc. routinely appear at the top of the lists of the healthiest countries', then please post your list of the top ten healthiest countries. I beg you to post your list. I absolutely positively want to see it. I plead to you to please post your list. In fact, I will even PayPal you $5 if you post your list tonight! Easy money, Falchard!!
Its impossible to accurately account for countries with the best health. There are many factors outside healthcare that come into play with a persons health including polution and crime rate. When it comes to healthcare service I believe these countries are at the top.
1. USA
2. Japan
3. India
I listed these because they rank the best in Cancer treatment, creating new preventions, and availability of treatment.
The World Health Organizations list on the top 10 healthiest countries does not properly account statistics when applied to healthcare. Like I said, in the US alot of things are counted for preventative deaths, such as people who died in the line of duty, abortion, and victims of violent crimes.
It also doesn't account for the environment in the region, and doesn't account for the people who die because they were denied coverage. In the US even the uninsured get treatment.
Sorry you didn't win the prize, but I do give you credit for posting something. The truth is that the countries I mentioned are some of the healthiest countries in the world. I know you are just trying to save face by posting your list, but can you seriously sit here and tell me you think the average Indian is healthier than the average Canadian? Canada has a huge Indian Ex-pat Community, and I'm guessing that partly has to do with the higher quality of life in Canada, including health care.
I don't doubt that the US (and probably the rest of the countries) count soldiers in their mortality rates, it makes sense that they would. I also don't doubt what you've said about cancer research. But I do doubt that aborted babies are included in mortality rates, do you have proof of this? Also, 15 million Americans do not have health insurance, and no, they do not all receive the treatment they need.
Canada doesn't have to deal with the population problems of the US, Japan, or India. Figuring out how to provide coverage to over 150 million people is a whole new area then small populations of those countries. I misread something about mortality rate of aborted fetises, so I will give that up..
When it comes to proper treatment. You will get rationing in the US under the current proposal as 45% of doctors surveyed will consider retiring or quiting if its past. I wonder how much worse that would be then 15 million people who chose not to get treatment.
I would love to know who gives you your statistics. I like to deal with only documented, verifiable facts, and don't have much respect for wild assumptions. That is part of the scare tactics being used by Republicans. Did 45% of doctors retire when Medicare was passed? Please be careful who you get your information from and do your own independent research. Think your own thoughts, not those of others. I meant to before that 15% of Americans don't have health insurance, not 15 million...
...and trust me, most of them are not CHOOSING to not get treatment. Reagan once said that homeless people have chosen to be homeless. Do you believe that? That is the kind of intellectualism that is offered by the right.
...and said we aren't going to tolerate this kind of nonsense? What is wrong is wrong. And no, not everyone qualifies to be in the military. In fact, by definition, you must be healthy to join the military. So many incorrect statements by you the last couple days, 'liberalssuck', I could be here all night. Next, in one sentence you imply that single payer health care is superior to other forms, then in another sentence you imply that it is not. Which is it? You do realize...
...that countries with socialized medicine programs like Norway, Holland, Canada, Denmark, etc. routinely appear at the top of the lists of the healthiest countries, right? Oh, and one more thing about Joe Wilson, somebody should not be rewarded for doing something wrong (as Wilson was when he got millions in campaign donations after his stunt).
Same sex marriage, Abortion ,MOST definitely education.....all major state issues and nothing to do with the fed ...same with drugs it should be up to the states how they choose to generate revinew in for the states coffers....The states were ment to be the great test tube for the nation and to lead by examples in there experiments
Well, we can probably agree on everything you just said. But both sides, liberals and conservatives, use the Federal Government for these things. It has been this way for many decades. You have to live in the real world, not the world you wish in your mind. And since both liberals and conservatives are guilty of this it makes your side look like sore losers when you start throwing around words like 'socialism' and 'communism' simply because our president would like to fix the health care...
...In fact I find it a little treasonous when your side compares the President of the United States to Hitler. Your side will go nowhere fast with that kind of garbage. And to be honest, when you start mis-spelling 'revenue', 'meant', and 'their' all in one sentence, it sort of perpetuates the myth that your side is filled with under-educated people.
Oh, and two more things. I just read that Congress voted to rebuke Wilson for his outburst, and that the vote fell along party lines. That means that at least most, if not all, Republicans voted 'no', even though what Wilson did was obviously wrong. And who claims to be the party of 'morals'? And finally, what do you have to say to the post below by 'HateHasNotWorked'? Seems a little hypocritical to rail against a single payer system for the public while you enjoy the benefits of one, no?
See there you go talking like you know something yet again, Wilson apologized to Obama and the White House, but refuses to apologize to the Senate floor. He was rude to Obama and I'm glad that he told him sorry,but this is not grade school. Democrats that want to rake him through the fire are all trying to act hurt and crying. It kills me, they should all grow up. I say toss them all out and start over...no incombent allowed. Others could have his same health care if they serve their country.
Nice. It looks like all three people that you were talking too were nearly awake. At least none of them were crude enough to interrupt your speech by calling you a liar.
the hispanicx vote for democrats to get all the freebies , they only think of what happens to them not the country as a whole , thats what they did to their country and now they want to destroy ours , if they can't live by our rules , pledge alegence to our flag , and be as one in our country [ where we speak [ ENGLISH] then they need to get put out
Mr Wilson , stand by your guns my son , Please do not apoligize to those dam scumbags , all they want to do is take over our country and destroy it , if they havn't already , Obama is a liar, proven by the many promises [ on tape ] that he blatently has gone back on , tell it like it is
Chippergold...you speak some proclamation like you have unearthed some vast intellegent thought; how simple that thought is. You think all this is for a tax hike on the top 1% then you truely are a fool..the health care bill is the biggest government intrusion on our lives since F.D.R. and his anti constitution NewDeal policies. For you to think it's just as simple as that doesn't make you smart it makes you foolish.Ron Paul supporters in most part didnt support the war and they're conservative.
Sending people to die in a needless war seems like a big intrusion into our lives. Why do you think the proposed health care plan will be an intrusion in your life? Is it because Rush Limbaugh told you to think that? Do you think the millions of Americans that currently do not have health insurance will feel like it is an intrusion when they can start receiving chemotherapy for their cancer that wasn't covered by their employer's insurance company because it was a pre-existing condition?
Do you think that a single mother that works two jobs will feel like it's an intrusion when she can take her child for a regular checkup? Conservatives act like bad things only happen to poor people, but if I died today my wife and 8-month old would barely scrape by. Most of us would be up shit's creek if an unexpected disaster happened. That is why social safety nets like social security and medicare exist. We are a country and should take care of one another. I'm not saying you should...
...hand your paycheck to the next homeless person you pass. But if we can't take care of each other a little bit then what is the point of having a country to begin with? I will gladly agree to be taxed a little more so that someone's grandmother can live with dignity in her old age, and then if my mother were to ever need help social security would be around for her as well.
Make no mistake, there is not a single country in existence that does not employ some 'socialist' programs. In fact, if I it weren't for government student loans I would never have graduated from college. But because the government was willing to subsidize my education, I am now a more productive member of society and the government earns money on their investment in me through increased tax revenue throughout my life. If there was not a socialized educational loan program I would be stuck...
...in a low paying job, and would not be contributing much to society. Governments invest in their citizens through government programs. I guarantee you or someone in your family has taken advantage of a 'socialized' government program, and that it has helped them, and made them better people.
I never said that government couldn't help people ...but thats up to the states government .. It's not in the constitution by any stretch of the mind...the general welfare clause wasn't intended anything like what the left tries to use it for, otherwise that broad defintion would have covered everything. It would not have to mention where powers were deligated as in what ever is not named in the constution should be left to the STATES.
I'm certainly not a Constitutional scolar, but Congress passes laws everyday that don't pertain to the things specifically mentioned in the Constitution, i.e. common defense, taxation, etc. How is this any different? If the states could fix the problems of the health care system, then why haven't they? My state certainly wasn't willing to give me a loan for college but the U.S. Department of Education did. You are a big states' rights supporter? You must have been outraged when Bush...
...proposed a Constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage? Or when Reagan launched the Federal war on drugs? Or do you only support states' rights when it serves your agenda?
If we all send Joe Wilson $5.00 !!! if that is all you can afford. HE WILL BE THE HERO WE ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAKE SURE HE STAYS IN OFFICE, HE IS ONE OF US !
God bless you Joe for calling it like it is he is a lier,I cant beleave that peaple are upset that you spoke up and said the king has no cloths.
The government has tied up and filled everything else it has run with redtape what make's him (obama) think that they can run a healthcare program that isnt going to tied up the system .And I agree if this dose go thru that congress should have to drop there current coverage and sign up for the new one.
Thank you for the common sense you propose Joe. The gibberish speaking commentors here should actually LISTEN to what you're saying. How in the world can ANYone disagree with it? (BESIDES fatcat Congress people)
Unfortunately, theres too many hypocrites in Congress who've not even read Orwell's "Animal Farm", & don't see they're pigs in Wash.DC, & have made themselves "more equal" than the rest of us animals...
Those failing to heed the past are doomed to repeat it (or their grandchildren)
Not really...since there are only 26 alphabetial characters in Englsh and countless hundreds of characters in Mandain....English is simply more efficient and practical for science,computers etc....if you don't think so then ask all those 300 million Chinese who are learning English as a second language
So I missed an apostrophe...sue me...you will notice that I didnt' miss the apostrophe the second time referring to his ancestors' King...and if you really don't know who was Queen of England in 1588,then there are some SERIOUS gaps in your education
Your people paid the price for being a backward culture....if it hadn't been for the parliamentary system and English common law brought over by MY ancestors,you would still be kissing the ass of some two bit 'jefe maximo'
i was quoting a George Lopez joke. i quote it because there is a 100% guarantee that the person im saying it to will object to going back to Britain on the Mayflower.
no, i was merely quoting racist radicals like yourself who believe in death panels and believe government ran health care is socialized medicine when it really just is socialized insurance that has nothing to do with you and your doctor. i feel i must point out you are the one who is typing with incorrect grammar repeatedly. when you said "MY ancestors Queen" it should have been "MY ancestors' Queen". but you didnt say what queen so it should have been lower case.
that is right jz!!! even though i have a white person name im mexican. the white man are the true illegal immigrants. they did not discover america, you cant discover something that was already discovered. here is a deal to the white people from us mexicans... all 12million of us will go back to mexico and then we will build you the mayflower so 12million of you can go back to Great Britain!
No thanks...jz is hispanic...he speaks no Indian languages....and the reason we speak English here now instead of Spanish is because the navy of MY ancestors Queen defeated the armada of HIS ancestors' King in 1588....they got the runner up trophy in the World Domination League....so they get to suck hind tit and English is now the language of most of the civilized world....the language of business,computers,science etc....res ipsa loquitur
english is the language of most of the civilized world? you are wrong again. there are 1,120 million people speaking mandarin compared to only 520 million speaking english. hurts to be wrong doesnt it?
way to go armigerous!!! these racial slurs really help demonstrate how qualified you are at political debate. your opinion should not be considered because your opinion is filled with hatred and bias. and should i mention that you are the one who misread my original comment? so doesnt that make you semi-literate also? that is very hypocritical of you. i thank you in showing the true colors of all the Joe Wilson supporters out there. thank you for proving they are all uneducated racists.thank you
Liar, I mean Congressman Wilson, if I may ask why didn't you turn down your government ran health insurance plan that you and your immediate family were given when you got elected? If your plan is good enough for you why isnt it good enough for me? I do pay for your health care and your family's healthcare so why cant I get that too?
Good point....but you're barking up the wrong tree....it was the Dems who control the House who voted to exempt themselves from the public option...Joe didn't vote with them....try using a little logic before you make idiotic accusations like that
hmmm.... please send me your source. make sure you send me 3 different sources from credible news websites such as foxnews, msnbc, cnn or yahoo. it can be from another real news agency too. thanks
Actually since it was YOU who accused Joe of voting to decline the public option for himself and his family it is YOU who needs to document your assertion that he did so.....take your time...I've got all weekend
that is not what i said... ALL senators and congressman get FREE HEALTH INSURANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!! i'll repeat myself.... ALL SENATORS AND CONGRESSMAN GET FREE HEALTH INSURANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
i asked why didnt he decline the INSURANCE THE GOVERNMENT GAVE HIM and get private insurance instead.
Then explain why Joe should be the only one to do so?....why hold him to a different standard than you do everybody else in Congress?....ask your own Congressman Charilie Gonzales why HE doesn't do that
the issue isnt who gets free government health care paid for by us and who doesnt. the issue is if government ran health care insurance is so bad and socialist why does he accept government ran health insurance? i think it would help make his point if he gives up the socialist insurance he accepts. If Socialized Health Care is Good Enough for Congress, It is Good Enough for Us.
He accepts it for the same reason that everybody else in Congress does...it goes with the job like a private parking space....and Congress's health care program is actually adminstered by a private firm...it's just that the premiums are paid for by taxpayers like his office and staff etc....so it isn't 'socialized medicine'...that would entail paying premiums to the government.....like what ObozoCare would be....understand now?
heh....you're either a liar or brain dead...Joe has not signed onto the public option....actually he is one of the members of Congress who did NOT want Congress to exempt itself from the public option if it should become law....but naturally since the Dems control the House,they voted to exempt themselves
Let Mexico pay for them...they are citizens of Mexico...the Mexican government can damn well reimburse US hospitals for treating them....they can pay us off in oil from PEMEX
Then why did the Dems vote TWICE against an amendment that would have expressly excluded illegal aliens earlier this year,and move to close the loophole in HR 3200 this week to which Joe was referring?....you're behind the curve on this one....the Dems clear intent is to cover illegals to appease the hispanic lobby and they got caught on it...all Joe did was call them out on it like Barokeydoke said he would do if any lies were told about the bill
Well if a renegade bitch nigger who thinks he is 'God's partner in matters of life and death' was shucking and jiving in MY presence,I'd call the boy a liar,too.....as for another apology on the floor of the House,Joe needs to tell Big Pauly Greasebally's menopausal whore to go clean the shit out of her pussy
These Outbursts come from Joe the Plumber and even that at at time and place outside of a Presidential Speech. If it is in your personality to suddenly "let my emotions get the best of me" you really need to consider some therapy, there was a much much better way to express your opinion.
Your outburst during the President's speech was childish and mean spirited. That kinda comment would not fly from a Congressman or Senator from my state of Michigan. I cannot believe the residents of your state will put up with it. Shame on you.
Wilson, u r a bigot , a stupid and a liar. U know the President was telling the truth. But as liar and a bigot, of course, you couldn't take the truth. You would have never said to a white president what you yelled at president Obama , let alone in the setting you chose to do so. You are the worst face of America, ignorant ,racist and ill-mannered. Please resign and try to restore the dignity of the office you held and the sullen name of our country because of your action.
You, as a service member, have disgraced your uniform. It is against the UCMJ to disrespect your commander in chief. You are a disgrace to your uniform. Just because you disagree does not give a military member a right to act like a fool. Shame on you. As a war vet I think your actions are inexcusable.
Joe Wilson was not appropriate but, do you really in your heart believe that abortion and illegal aliens will not be covered? If you are honest with yourself, you would see why he was incensed at those comments. The President was not truthful and if this passes, illegals and abortions will be covered if not immediately soon thereafter. If the press would only challenge this, the frustration would not build. Nobody calls him on it and that is a disgrace.
So who is going to pay for them? Do you mean to tell me that emergency rooms will stop treating illegals? The country is already bankrupt we cannot afford this for anyone. The bill for our wars is coming due soon!
I refuse to visit anywhere in South Carolina, and I will encourage my friends and family to the same, until Rep. Joe Wilson unequivocally apologizes on the floor of the House of Representatives for disrespecting the Office of the President of the United States and the American people. Rep. Wilson's behavior was totally unacceptable and his attack was entirely false and untrue. Thank you.
Are you also going to refuse to visit Illinois because Barokeydoke lied his ass off during that entire speech the other night?....or are you not aware of the fact that the Dems removed the loophole Joe was referring to in HR 3200 the next day?
Joe Wilson, you sir are an epic failure. Read the bill, "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."
Joe....you uttered 2 words of truth last night...Barokeydoke lied his ass off for 55 minutes....as far as another apology is concerned,tell Nancy Pelosi to go fuck herself
Hey Joe - Unthil you totally disrespected the Office of The President of the United States I would have never spent a second worrying about South Carolina politics, but now I've donated to your 2010 opponent and I'm pushing everyone I know to support your opponent (and I know a lot of people) because it's time to take out the trash in Congress. Seeya, Joe.
Joe Wilson, You should be ASHAMED of yourself. I can not remember at any other time when a President was so disrespected. There were several times that George W Bush said things in congress that were political but all the members didn't heckle him. You are an Asshole and your party is a disgrace to America. Just like Glen Beck and Sean Hanity.
Then Ted Kennedy should have resigned for what he said about Justice Bork during his hearings. George Bush got booed by the Dems on more than one occasion. You are deluding yourself and are worse than any you put down.
what obama should have done is to walk over to where you were and slapped your face so damm hard that when you are 65 yres you will still feel the the pain.disrespect him but not his f------ office!
Joe Wilson you just ruined your political career. I hope your ignorant and racist outburst was worth it. You just helped another Democrat get elected. Thank you for you ignorance.
I support what you said last nite. You should not had apologized, as what you said was the truth. Obama is A LIAR ! Obama should had been the one to apologize to Palin. So please, no more apologies to Obama.
On September 9, 2009 you were totally triumphant an embarrassing the United States of America before the world!
Your behavior during the President speech was vulgar, adolescent, and typical of a delinquent whose understanding is limited at best and so self involved he resorts to personal attacks because he is unable to comprehend what is told him.
So you dont mind Barokeydoke lying to you through his entire speech but you despise Joe Wilson for having the courage to point it out?....you need professional help
LOL...how can I read a bill that you claim doesnt exist yet,tonto?...Obozo doesn't have a bill...but I'm talking bout HR3200...in THAT bill wetbacks cannot be asked about their immigration status when they show up for medical treatment...and TWICE the Dems on the House Ways and Means Committee voted down an amendment that would have fixed that..so you go ahead and pretend there is no bill...or that there is but that it doesn't say what it does..you are obviously educated beyond your intelligence
do whatever the fuck you want to do but if this is what you do all day then you maybe should get a life and get your ass off the internet becuase your just ruining it
All I have done is point out what the Dems in Congress have refused to do....prohibit mojados from being covered by HR 3200...evidently you refuse to accept that....it's a matter of public record in spite of your being in denial over that
I used the word tonto for a very good reason,tonto...because the clear intent of Obama and the Democrats in Congress is to cover wetbacks with this bill....if it isn't, then why did they all vote down TWO separate amendments that would have expressly prohibited that?....and why does the bill expressly prohibit asking them about their immigration status when they show up for medical treatment?.....I eagerly await more of your toro cacate
You are totally misinformed; you keep calling it bill... there is no bill yet. I keep advocating rational discussions, by providng exact information, and you keep saying the reform says this and that... where? where? On the other hand section, 101 (a) (15) has some provisions to take care of this. Read the bill.
I've read the bill,tonto....read what the amendment would have done....as the bill is written now,ANY illegal alien can show up at a hospital for treatment and they can't be asked about their immigration or citizenship status....now do you comprende what that means or not?
You cannot even speak clearly."Tonto" means fool; that's all you got to rebuttal my point? Definitely, when you run out of intelligent arguments, insults is your only way out. Besides, I pointed the exact section of the bill... You are just saying, it says what you want, but you cannot even say what section of the bill says that. More misleading information!!!
Just read the bill. HR 3200 section 246, and you will see that President Barrack Obama was telling the truth. It does not mean, I agree with him, but I am not going to defame him, just because I do not agree with him. Read the bill. Let's have rational and sincere discussions. PLEASE!!!
I'm a conservative, and I love America, but this does not give me the right to disrespect another person who does not agree with my views. PLEASE tell the TRUTH. The Health Care reform, section 246 says in BOLD letters, UPPER CASE: " NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS" and it goes on to say: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal Payments for affordability credits on behalf on individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." BE PROFESSIONAL AND READ THE BILL!!!
On July 16 and amendment by Rep Dean Heller (R-Nev) that would have required use of the SAVE (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements)program to prevent illegal aliens from receiving the affordable premium credits was defeated by the House Ways and Means Committee with ALL Democrats voting against it....try again,pedro
Yelling at the President and being disrespectful is not excuse in exorcising a differing of opinion. Facts are key here. This is shameful behavior at best.
Are you proud of yourself for your little stunt during the president's speech? I hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes of fame because you're going down. Your career is over. Bu-bye!
Yes....one big non stop lie....and if the latest AP polls mean anything at all,52% of the American public agrees with me.....we know how fundamentally dishonest the boy is and what his true ideological agenda is....maybe if you did your homework instead of drooling down your chin every time he speaks,you'd understand that
Tell me something,TheBassRegulator....when Barokeydoke squirts his renegade bitch nigger cum in your mouth,do you swallow it all right away,or do you french kiss that dirty leg whore your daddy knocked up and share it with her?
heh....well unlike you, I can tell the difference between an honest enlightened black man like Clarence Thomas or Ward Connerly or J C Watts or Mike Steele and a renegade jiveass bitch nigger like Barokeydoke...maybe someday when you get to be a big boy,you'll be able to as well
Maybe so OR you're one of the elderly people Obama is going to kill and you're scared....since he's doing that...right????I'd just be scared you were the second and not the first haha ( you probably even like jesse)
heh..not me....I pay my own medical costs....I'm not stupid enough to sign up for ObozoCare...if your'e stupid enough to do so and become a ward of the state for the rest of your life,then be my guest
I'm not planning on signing up for the option, but it's nice if it's there for those that need it. If the naysayers can get their facts together and come up with some other ideas they might get somewhere....but last night wasn't a townhall meeting where you shouldn't be yelling out like that anyways. It was an address to congress, the nation and the world about an important subject.
Well,if it had been ME apologizing,I would have told Rahm Emanuel "I sure am sorry the First Ho' dirties up her low bred,affirmative action,colored girl pussy with such a lying gob of nigger dog shit"
Well,all Joe really did is point out what a lying gob of nigger dog shit the First Ho' dirties up her low bred,affirmative action,colored girl pussy with...I don't see what all the hubbub is about
You GO JOE! Thank you for speaking up last night. I read the health care plan. Our current situation is past a time for manners. It is time for the truth to come out. You may have some tough times from standing up, but in the end you will be rewarded for speaking the truth. Hold your head high.
What a wonderful cowardly act Joe! The GOP has made a mess of this country! Stop blaming it on the black dude. That defines you as a racists and a coward!
"Have good heart. Go forward with God; do not hesitate. God conducts our work. If I had not this assurance I would rather guard sheep than expose myself to so great perils."
"In God's name we must fight them!"
"The King of Heaven will send more powerful forces...and when it comes to blows will it be seen who has the better right of the God of Heaven!" (Joan of Arc, Maid of Orlean, 1429) & Francisco de Aguilar, 2009
It already is good enough for congress. They have govt healthcare. So if it's good enough for congress, it's good enough for the people that put them there.
mlodge87 2 years ago
"YOU LIE"
captaincusa 2 years ago
Since the disrespectful "you lie" outburst, I puke every time I see this guy. I'd hate to be his children and be so embarrassed
PinkFloydRoadie 2 years ago
we should held any countries accountable if their citizen try to use our health system to their advantageous over our hard work money.again
it is fair to accordant.
humberlick 2 years ago
Joe, you are a hero. I guess booing George a few years back was not a big deal to everyone. You are one man that was able to be singled out. Don't let these people get you down. There aren't so many powerful people in Washington. It's the American people the Congress and Senate need to worry about- not you. Rock on, Joe!
mahzmusic 2 years ago
GO BACK IN YOUR HOLE, WILSON.
markievon 2 years ago
Dont let 'em get ya down joe!!when harry reid apologizes to gw bush then maybe you would too,lol...i'm going to contribute to your campaign fund God Bless you!!the liberals cant handle the same that they dish out...
coalsampler147 2 years ago
chipper and hate- You both seem to think that being in the millitary doesn't earn you health care. You say hypocritical when EVERYONE has the oppurtunity he had to serve and protect. If he rails against it, I'm sure it's because he's seen it not working first hand. Hatehasnotworked- You admit that he and 4 sons fight and defend this country. If that's not being deserving of health care I dont know what is. One more time so you get it--- THATS NOT FREE ---its earned.
libralssuck 2 years ago
a retired Army National Guard colonel Joe wilson with four sons in the military, he and his family enjoy free military Medicare coverage, known as Tricare. Tricare is a single-payer system and covers 9.5 million people. Though Wilson enjoys Tricare, he has voted 11 times against health care for veterans in eight years.
Read it at Newsweek
HateHasNotWorked 2 years ago
"a retired Army National Guard colonel Joe wilson with four sons in the military, he and his family enjoy free military Medicare coverage" How the hell is it free if they served their country for it?
I read the votes...it didn't give reasons behind the bills just numbers. In my opinion give the veterans whatever they want. They WORK harder then the rest of us, but that doesn't negate the fact that Wilson was right in what he said. Military medical is never FREE, so don't disrespect that point.
libralssuck 2 years ago
I just did a Yahoo search on 'bush nazi' which returned 31,000,000 results. Then I searched on 'obama nazi' and got 40,900,000 results. So you tell me, which one has been labeled a nazi more often? And Obama has only been President for 9 months! Also, no, what Joe Wilson did was wrong and he should hear it from all of us. Your very own youtube profile page talks about the breakdown of public discourse. Can you imagine what kind of a message it would send if BOTH parties stood up...
Chippergold 2 years ago
What Joe Wilson did was very partisan in its results. Where were these democrats when they booed Bush when he was giving a televised speech infront of congress? That discord is appropriate?
Also the statistic you quoted about healthiest nations is slanted. It comes from a survey that automatically gives points for having a socialized option. The US also counts for any death. Most of the countries you mentioned have clauses that hide their true health problem and mortality rate.
falchard 2 years ago
I didn't actually quote a statistic or cite a source, so not sure what you think is slanted. If you don't think those countries are among the healthiest, then I would love to see your top ten list. Please enlighten us all.
Chippergold 2 years ago
There is only 1 statstic that puts the health where you placed it.
US is #1 in the world in Cancer research and prevention. It has shown to be the strongest nation in curing the uncurable.
In our life-expetancy and infant mortality, we include people who died in the military. We also include abortions as infant mortality.
falchard 2 years ago
If you do not agree with what I said, which was 'countries with socialized medicine programs like Norway, Holland, Canada, Denmark, etc. routinely appear at the top of the lists of the healthiest countries', then please post your list of the top ten healthiest countries. I beg you to post your list. I absolutely positively want to see it. I plead to you to please post your list. In fact, I will even PayPal you $5 if you post your list tonight! Easy money, Falchard!!
Chippergold 2 years ago
Its impossible to accurately account for countries with the best health. There are many factors outside healthcare that come into play with a persons health including polution and crime rate. When it comes to healthcare service I believe these countries are at the top.
1. USA
2. Japan
3. India
I listed these because they rank the best in Cancer treatment, creating new preventions, and availability of treatment.
falchard 2 years ago
The World Health Organizations list on the top 10 healthiest countries does not properly account statistics when applied to healthcare. Like I said, in the US alot of things are counted for preventative deaths, such as people who died in the line of duty, abortion, and victims of violent crimes.
It also doesn't account for the environment in the region, and doesn't account for the people who die because they were denied coverage. In the US even the uninsured get treatment.
falchard 2 years ago
Sorry you didn't win the prize, but I do give you credit for posting something. The truth is that the countries I mentioned are some of the healthiest countries in the world. I know you are just trying to save face by posting your list, but can you seriously sit here and tell me you think the average Indian is healthier than the average Canadian? Canada has a huge Indian Ex-pat Community, and I'm guessing that partly has to do with the higher quality of life in Canada, including health care.
Chippergold 2 years ago
I don't doubt that the US (and probably the rest of the countries) count soldiers in their mortality rates, it makes sense that they would. I also don't doubt what you've said about cancer research. But I do doubt that aborted babies are included in mortality rates, do you have proof of this? Also, 15 million Americans do not have health insurance, and no, they do not all receive the treatment they need.
Chippergold 2 years ago
Canada doesn't have to deal with the population problems of the US, Japan, or India. Figuring out how to provide coverage to over 150 million people is a whole new area then small populations of those countries. I misread something about mortality rate of aborted fetises, so I will give that up..
falchard 2 years ago
When it comes to proper treatment. You will get rationing in the US under the current proposal as 45% of doctors surveyed will consider retiring or quiting if its past. I wonder how much worse that would be then 15 million people who chose not to get treatment.
falchard 2 years ago
I would love to know who gives you your statistics. I like to deal with only documented, verifiable facts, and don't have much respect for wild assumptions. That is part of the scare tactics being used by Republicans. Did 45% of doctors retire when Medicare was passed? Please be careful who you get your information from and do your own independent research. Think your own thoughts, not those of others. I meant to before that 15% of Americans don't have health insurance, not 15 million...
Chippergold 2 years ago
...and trust me, most of them are not CHOOSING to not get treatment. Reagan once said that homeless people have chosen to be homeless. Do you believe that? That is the kind of intellectualism that is offered by the right.
Chippergold 2 years ago
...and said we aren't going to tolerate this kind of nonsense? What is wrong is wrong. And no, not everyone qualifies to be in the military. In fact, by definition, you must be healthy to join the military. So many incorrect statements by you the last couple days, 'liberalssuck', I could be here all night. Next, in one sentence you imply that single payer health care is superior to other forms, then in another sentence you imply that it is not. Which is it? You do realize...
Chippergold 2 years ago
...that countries with socialized medicine programs like Norway, Holland, Canada, Denmark, etc. routinely appear at the top of the lists of the healthiest countries, right? Oh, and one more thing about Joe Wilson, somebody should not be rewarded for doing something wrong (as Wilson was when he got millions in campaign donations after his stunt).
Chippergold 2 years ago
Same sex marriage, Abortion ,MOST definitely education.....all major state issues and nothing to do with the fed ...same with drugs it should be up to the states how they choose to generate revinew in for the states coffers....The states were ment to be the great test tube for the nation and to lead by examples in there experiments
libralssuck 2 years ago
Well, we can probably agree on everything you just said. But both sides, liberals and conservatives, use the Federal Government for these things. It has been this way for many decades. You have to live in the real world, not the world you wish in your mind. And since both liberals and conservatives are guilty of this it makes your side look like sore losers when you start throwing around words like 'socialism' and 'communism' simply because our president would like to fix the health care...
Chippergold 2 years ago
...In fact I find it a little treasonous when your side compares the President of the United States to Hitler. Your side will go nowhere fast with that kind of garbage. And to be honest, when you start mis-spelling 'revenue', 'meant', and 'their' all in one sentence, it sort of perpetuates the myth that your side is filled with under-educated people.
Chippergold 2 years ago
The liberals had "death to Bush" signs and always compared him to Hitler...did you bitch about that?
libralssuck 2 years ago
Oh, and two more things. I just read that Congress voted to rebuke Wilson for his outburst, and that the vote fell along party lines. That means that at least most, if not all, Republicans voted 'no', even though what Wilson did was obviously wrong. And who claims to be the party of 'morals'? And finally, what do you have to say to the post below by 'HateHasNotWorked'? Seems a little hypocritical to rail against a single payer system for the public while you enjoy the benefits of one, no?
Chippergold 2 years ago
See there you go talking like you know something yet again, Wilson apologized to Obama and the White House, but refuses to apologize to the Senate floor. He was rude to Obama and I'm glad that he told him sorry,but this is not grade school. Democrats that want to rake him through the fire are all trying to act hurt and crying. It kills me, they should all grow up. I say toss them all out and start over...no incombent allowed. Others could have his same health care if they serve their country.
libralssuck 2 years ago
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FreedomsReigning 2 years ago
Nice. It looks like all three people that you were talking too were nearly awake. At least none of them were crude enough to interrupt your speech by calling you a liar.
babbchuck 2 years ago
simplicityperron
the hispanicx vote for democrats to get all the freebies , they only think of what happens to them not the country as a whole , thats what they did to their country and now they want to destroy ours , if they can't live by our rules , pledge alegence to our flag , and be as one in our country [ where we speak [ ENGLISH] then they need to get put out
baldie1948 2 years ago
Mr Wilson , stand by your guns my son , Please do not apoligize to those dam scumbags , all they want to do is take over our country and destroy it , if they havn't already , Obama is a liar, proven by the many promises [ on tape ] that he blatently has gone back on , tell it like it is
baldie1948 2 years ago
Question #1 What angers liberals?
Answer - Illegal wars and thousands of dead soldiers.
Question #2 What angers conservatives?
Answer - A proposed modest tax hike for the wealthiest 1% of citizens.
Chippergold 2 years ago
Chippergold...you speak some proclamation like you have unearthed some vast intellegent thought; how simple that thought is. You think all this is for a tax hike on the top 1% then you truely are a fool..the health care bill is the biggest government intrusion on our lives since F.D.R. and his anti constitution NewDeal policies. For you to think it's just as simple as that doesn't make you smart it makes you foolish.Ron Paul supporters in most part didnt support the war and they're conservative.
libralssuck 2 years ago
Sending people to die in a needless war seems like a big intrusion into our lives. Why do you think the proposed health care plan will be an intrusion in your life? Is it because Rush Limbaugh told you to think that? Do you think the millions of Americans that currently do not have health insurance will feel like it is an intrusion when they can start receiving chemotherapy for their cancer that wasn't covered by their employer's insurance company because it was a pre-existing condition?
Chippergold 2 years ago
Do you think that a single mother that works two jobs will feel like it's an intrusion when she can take her child for a regular checkup? Conservatives act like bad things only happen to poor people, but if I died today my wife and 8-month old would barely scrape by. Most of us would be up shit's creek if an unexpected disaster happened. That is why social safety nets like social security and medicare exist. We are a country and should take care of one another. I'm not saying you should...
Chippergold 2 years ago
...hand your paycheck to the next homeless person you pass. But if we can't take care of each other a little bit then what is the point of having a country to begin with? I will gladly agree to be taxed a little more so that someone's grandmother can live with dignity in her old age, and then if my mother were to ever need help social security would be around for her as well.
Chippergold 2 years ago
Make no mistake, there is not a single country in existence that does not employ some 'socialist' programs. In fact, if I it weren't for government student loans I would never have graduated from college. But because the government was willing to subsidize my education, I am now a more productive member of society and the government earns money on their investment in me through increased tax revenue throughout my life. If there was not a socialized educational loan program I would be stuck...
Chippergold 2 years ago
...in a low paying job, and would not be contributing much to society. Governments invest in their citizens through government programs. I guarantee you or someone in your family has taken advantage of a 'socialized' government program, and that it has helped them, and made them better people.
Chippergold 2 years ago
I never said that government couldn't help people ...but thats up to the states government .. It's not in the constitution by any stretch of the mind...the general welfare clause wasn't intended anything like what the left tries to use it for, otherwise that broad defintion would have covered everything. It would not have to mention where powers were deligated as in what ever is not named in the constution should be left to the STATES.
libralssuck 2 years ago
I'm certainly not a Constitutional scolar, but Congress passes laws everyday that don't pertain to the things specifically mentioned in the Constitution, i.e. common defense, taxation, etc. How is this any different? If the states could fix the problems of the health care system, then why haven't they? My state certainly wasn't willing to give me a loan for college but the U.S. Department of Education did. You are a big states' rights supporter? You must have been outraged when Bush...
Chippergold 2 years ago
...proposed a Constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage? Or when Reagan launched the Federal war on drugs? Or do you only support states' rights when it serves your agenda?
Chippergold 2 years ago
hahaha, 'scolar' should be 'scholar', what a word to mis-spell. :)
Chippergold 2 years ago
What is a 'lier'?
Chippergold 2 years ago
If we all send Joe Wilson $5.00 !!! if that is all you can afford. HE WILL BE THE HERO WE ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAKE SURE HE STAYS IN OFFICE, HE IS ONE OF US !
jackiestbird 2 years ago
GO JOE WILSON
jackiestbird 2 years ago
right on jackiestbird , 60 more of him in there would make a hell of a difference
baldie1948 2 years ago
Thanks you Joe Wilson.
Sincerely,
Mark Fleagle.
investormark1 2 years ago
Well I won't day that the poster boy for pickaninny jiveassery is a liar....but Barokeydoke seldom deviates into veracity.
Armigerous 2 years ago
you lie
samtexas123 2 years ago 2
God bless you Joe for calling it like it is he is a lier,I cant beleave that peaple are upset that you spoke up and said the king has no cloths.
The government has tied up and filled everything else it has run with redtape what make's him (obama) think that they can run a healthcare program that isnt going to tied up the system .And I agree if this dose go thru that congress should have to drop there current coverage and sign up for the new one.
Thank you
Joe Ervin
pissedoffjoe 2 years ago
Thank you for the common sense you propose Joe. The gibberish speaking commentors here should actually LISTEN to what you're saying. How in the world can ANYone disagree with it? (BESIDES fatcat Congress people)
Unfortunately, theres too many hypocrites in Congress who've not even read Orwell's "Animal Farm", & don't see they're pigs in Wash.DC, & have made themselves "more equal" than the rest of us animals...
Those failing to heed the past are doomed to repeat it (or their grandchildren)
summo55 2 years ago 2
Didnt I tell you not to drink the water in Mexico?...sounds like you got the 'revenge' to me
Armigerous 2 years ago
Now you can rag on me for my typos and whine again about how illiterate I am
Armigerous 2 years ago
Not really...since there are only 26 alphabetial characters in Englsh and countless hundreds of characters in Mandain....English is simply more efficient and practical for science,computers etc....if you don't think so then ask all those 300 million Chinese who are learning English as a second language
Armigerous 2 years ago
So I missed an apostrophe...sue me...you will notice that I didnt' miss the apostrophe the second time referring to his ancestors' King...and if you really don't know who was Queen of England in 1588,then there are some SERIOUS gaps in your education
Armigerous 2 years ago
Your people paid the price for being a backward culture....if it hadn't been for the parliamentary system and English common law brought over by MY ancestors,you would still be kissing the ass of some two bit 'jefe maximo'
Armigerous 2 years ago
i was quoting a George Lopez joke. i quote it because there is a 100% guarantee that the person im saying it to will object to going back to Britain on the Mayflower.
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
And may I remind you that it was YOU who didn't understand what 'socialized medicine' is....so you are the political illiterate on this thread
Armigerous 2 years ago
no, i was merely quoting racist radicals like yourself who believe in death panels and believe government ran health care is socialized medicine when it really just is socialized insurance that has nothing to do with you and your doctor. i feel i must point out you are the one who is typing with incorrect grammar repeatedly. when you said "MY ancestors Queen" it should have been "MY ancestors' Queen". but you didnt say what queen so it should have been lower case.
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
that is right jz!!! even though i have a white person name im mexican. the white man are the true illegal immigrants. they did not discover america, you cant discover something that was already discovered. here is a deal to the white people from us mexicans... all 12million of us will go back to mexico and then we will build you the mayflower so 12million of you can go back to Great Britain!
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
No thanks...jz is hispanic...he speaks no Indian languages....and the reason we speak English here now instead of Spanish is because the navy of MY ancestors Queen defeated the armada of HIS ancestors' King in 1588....they got the runner up trophy in the World Domination League....so they get to suck hind tit and English is now the language of most of the civilized world....the language of business,computers,science etc....res ipsa loquitur
Armigerous 2 years ago
english is the language of most of the civilized world? you are wrong again. there are 1,120 million people speaking mandarin compared to only 520 million speaking english. hurts to be wrong doesnt it?
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
Then you need to clean the cacate out of your mama's panocha,tonto
Armigerous 2 years ago
Then why are you using the language of the 'immigrants' then,tonto?
Armigerous 2 years ago
way to go armigerous!!! these racial slurs really help demonstrate how qualified you are at political debate. your opinion should not be considered because your opinion is filled with hatred and bias. and should i mention that you are the one who misread my original comment? so doesnt that make you semi-literate also? that is very hypocritical of you. i thank you in showing the true colors of all the Joe Wilson supporters out there. thank you for proving they are all uneducated racists.thank you
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
And saying 'this facts' instead of 'these facts' makes YOU a semi-literate frijolero who needs a remedial English grammar course
Armigerous 2 years ago
Liar, I mean Congressman Wilson, if I may ask why didn't you turn down your government ran health insurance plan that you and your immediate family were given when you got elected? If your plan is good enough for you why isnt it good enough for me? I do pay for your health care and your family's healthcare so why cant I get that too?
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
Good point....but you're barking up the wrong tree....it was the Dems who control the House who voted to exempt themselves from the public option...Joe didn't vote with them....try using a little logic before you make idiotic accusations like that
Armigerous 2 years ago
hmmm.... please send me your source. make sure you send me 3 different sources from credible news websites such as foxnews, msnbc, cnn or yahoo. it can be from another real news agency too. thanks
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
Actually since it was YOU who accused Joe of voting to decline the public option for himself and his family it is YOU who needs to document your assertion that he did so.....take your time...I've got all weekend
Armigerous 2 years ago
that is not what i said... ALL senators and congressman get FREE HEALTH INSURANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!! i'll repeat myself.... ALL SENATORS AND CONGRESSMAN GET FREE HEALTH INSURANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
i asked why didnt he decline the INSURANCE THE GOVERNMENT GAVE HIM and get private insurance instead.
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
Then explain why Joe should be the only one to do so?....why hold him to a different standard than you do everybody else in Congress?....ask your own Congressman Charilie Gonzales why HE doesn't do that
Armigerous 2 years ago
the issue isnt who gets free government health care paid for by us and who doesnt. the issue is if government ran health care insurance is so bad and socialist why does he accept government ran health insurance? i think it would help make his point if he gives up the socialist insurance he accepts. If Socialized Health Care is Good Enough for Congress, It is Good Enough for Us.
clayfromsanantonio 2 years ago
He accepts it for the same reason that everybody else in Congress does...it goes with the job like a private parking space....and Congress's health care program is actually adminstered by a private firm...it's just that the premiums are paid for by taxpayers like his office and staff etc....so it isn't 'socialized medicine'...that would entail paying premiums to the government.....like what ObozoCare would be....understand now?
Armigerous 2 years ago
Are there any intellectuals left in the Republican Party?
Chippergold 2 years ago
Thank you Rep Joe Wilson!!! Someone had to say it!!! Congratulations!! You are a true Patriot!!
gdrbs427 2 years ago
THANKS JOE!
For reminding me why I left the Republican party!
kc10ken 2 years ago
heh....you're either a liar or brain dead...Joe has not signed onto the public option....actually he is one of the members of Congress who did NOT want Congress to exempt itself from the public option if it should become law....but naturally since the Dems control the House,they voted to exempt themselves
Armigerous 2 years ago
I would love to have the health plan I'm currently helping to pay for Joe Wilson to have, and I thank Rep Wilson for signing on to the public option.
snarkhunter 2 years ago
Let Mexico pay for them...they are citizens of Mexico...the Mexican government can damn well reimburse US hospitals for treating them....they can pay us off in oil from PEMEX
Armigerous 2 years ago
Then why did the Dems vote TWICE against an amendment that would have expressly excluded illegal aliens earlier this year,and move to close the loophole in HR 3200 this week to which Joe was referring?....you're behind the curve on this one....the Dems clear intent is to cover illegals to appease the hispanic lobby and they got caught on it...all Joe did was call them out on it like Barokeydoke said he would do if any lies were told about the bill
Armigerous 2 years ago
YOU TOLD THE TRUTH!!!! HE IS A LIER!!!!
TheFreeHeart101 2 years ago
What does 'LIER' mean?
Chippergold 2 years ago
lol...shhhh Liar.... it was a long day...lol Thanks Chippergold... I guess it obamaside!
TheFreeHeart101 2 years ago
Well if a renegade bitch nigger who thinks he is 'God's partner in matters of life and death' was shucking and jiving in MY presence,I'd call the boy a liar,too.....as for another apology on the floor of the House,Joe needs to tell Big Pauly Greasebally's menopausal whore to go clean the shit out of her pussy
Armigerous 2 years ago
Hey voters in SC:
Rob Miller is a Democrat and an Iraq war veteran, and last year he won 46% of the vote against Wilson despite raising half as much money.
DNAisNotDestiny 2 years ago
By the way, did your guys simply unplug your internet site, or are there so many people just trying to view more about you?
Julioandbill 2 years ago
These Outbursts come from Joe the Plumber and even that at at time and place outside of a Presidential Speech. If it is in your personality to suddenly "let my emotions get the best of me" you really need to consider some therapy, there was a much much better way to express your opinion.
Julioandbill 2 years ago
Rep Wilson,
Your outburst during the President's speech was childish and mean spirited. That kinda comment would not fly from a Congressman or Senator from my state of Michigan. I cannot believe the residents of your state will put up with it. Shame on you.
Gr8Scout 2 years ago
Wilson, u r a bigot , a stupid and a liar. U know the President was telling the truth. But as liar and a bigot, of course, you couldn't take the truth. You would have never said to a white president what you yelled at president Obama , let alone in the setting you chose to do so. You are the worst face of America, ignorant ,racist and ill-mannered. Please resign and try to restore the dignity of the office you held and the sullen name of our country because of your action.
Thank you.
Thank you.
yasteserial 2 years ago
Joe Wilson is a national disgrace and should resign immediately.
AnimalPak2 2 years ago 2
You, as a service member, have disgraced your uniform. It is against the UCMJ to disrespect your commander in chief. You are a disgrace to your uniform. Just because you disagree does not give a military member a right to act like a fool. Shame on you. As a war vet I think your actions are inexcusable.
felixxxx999 2 years ago 2
Joe Wilson was not appropriate but, do you really in your heart believe that abortion and illegal aliens will not be covered? If you are honest with yourself, you would see why he was incensed at those comments. The President was not truthful and if this passes, illegals and abortions will be covered if not immediately soon thereafter. If the press would only challenge this, the frustration would not build. Nobody calls him on it and that is a disgrace.
jprbos 2 years ago
If you actually looked at the truth and stopped listening to FOX News and Rush Limbaugh. The bill says explicityly in
HR 3200/Section246 - that Illegal immigrants are excluded. Read and not just believe
Johndaviddm 2 years ago
So who is going to pay for them? Do you mean to tell me that emergency rooms will stop treating illegals? The country is already bankrupt we cannot afford this for anyone. The bill for our wars is coming due soon!
mhill247 2 years ago
I refuse to visit anywhere in South Carolina, and I will encourage my friends and family to the same, until Rep. Joe Wilson unequivocally apologizes on the floor of the House of Representatives for disrespecting the Office of the President of the United States and the American people. Rep. Wilson's behavior was totally unacceptable and his attack was entirely false and untrue. Thank you.
gbbearlvr 2 years ago
Are you also going to refuse to visit Illinois because Barokeydoke lied his ass off during that entire speech the other night?....or are you not aware of the fact that the Dems removed the loophole Joe was referring to in HR 3200 the next day?
Armigerous 2 years ago
YOU LIE!
Dionkeyundead 2 years ago
Joe Wilson, you sir are an epic failure. Read the bill, "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."
Knossos2004 2 years ago
Joe....you uttered 2 words of truth last night...Barokeydoke lied his ass off for 55 minutes....as far as another apology is concerned,tell Nancy Pelosi to go fuck herself
Armigerous 2 years ago
Hey Joe - Unthil you totally disrespected the Office of The President of the United States I would have never spent a second worrying about South Carolina politics, but now I've donated to your 2010 opponent and I'm pushing everyone I know to support your opponent (and I know a lot of people) because it's time to take out the trash in Congress. Seeya, Joe.
jcisalways 2 years ago
Joe Wilson, You should be ASHAMED of yourself. I can not remember at any other time when a President was so disrespected. There were several times that George W Bush said things in congress that were political but all the members didn't heckle him. You are an Asshole and your party is a disgrace to America. Just like Glen Beck and Sean Hanity.
Paul Pierce, Sacramento, CA
roadiemanchild 2 years ago
Then Ted Kennedy should have resigned for what he said about Justice Bork during his hearings. George Bush got booed by the Dems on more than one occasion. You are deluding yourself and are worse than any you put down.
jprbos 2 years ago 2
You stupid dumb redneck republican go fucking kill yourself you racist pig.
zragen7 2 years ago
Kinggordon87, what was "racist" about anything? Explain, if you can.
ItachiUchiha12349blablabla.. It would be EASY for Obama to make illegals legal once government control over your life is signed. DUH!
I'm glad Wilson had the balls to speak out, we need MORE like him !..
enterprise59 2 years ago
Save your breath, people. You can't fix stupid.
gonzodon 2 years ago
what obama should have done is to walk over to where you were and slapped your face so damm hard that when you are 65 yres you will still feel the the pain.disrespect him but not his f------ office!
rosirag 2 years ago
I am a republican from South Carolina, you are a shame to us. u racist bastard.i and the rest of the world hopes you die!
kinggordon87 2 years ago
Thank you Joe. You spoke the truth that was on our minds. Oregon
orygun15 2 years ago
Joe Wilson you just ruined your political career. I hope your ignorant and racist outburst was worth it. You just helped another Democrat get elected. Thank you for you ignorance.
blewknew 2 years ago
You are a f*cking ass hole.
VinceBow 2 years ago
Congressman Wison
I support what you said last nite. You should not had apologized, as what you said was the truth. Obama is A LIAR ! Obama should had been the one to apologize to Palin. So please, no more apologies to Obama.
arlenearmy 2 years ago
ROFLMAO...so you cuss like a sailor but it's ME who is 'ruining the internet'?...ok,junior....if you say so
Armigerous 2 years ago
On September 9, 2009 you were totally triumphant an embarrassing the United States of America before the world!
Your behavior during the President speech was vulgar, adolescent, and typical of a delinquent whose understanding is limited at best and so self involved he resorts to personal attacks because he is unable to comprehend what is told him.
ru4lace 2 years ago 2
So you dont mind Barokeydoke lying to you through his entire speech but you despise Joe Wilson for having the courage to point it out?....you need professional help
Armigerous 2 years ago
LOL...how can I read a bill that you claim doesnt exist yet,tonto?...Obozo doesn't have a bill...but I'm talking bout HR3200...in THAT bill wetbacks cannot be asked about their immigration status when they show up for medical treatment...and TWICE the Dems on the House Ways and Means Committee voted down an amendment that would have fixed that..so you go ahead and pretend there is no bill...or that there is but that it doesn't say what it does..you are obviously educated beyond your intelligence
Armigerous 2 years ago
for what you did you wont get re-elected again sir
...and the person who is saying wetbacks on these comments read a book get better vocabulary you ignorent idiot
SilverAqua 2 years ago
Fine then I will use the Spanish word 'mojados' from now on instead of 'wetbacks'
Armigerous 2 years ago
get a life seriously thats all you do just talk shit damn u ruin the world fuck off bitch
SilverAqua 2 years ago
Do your kiss your mother with that toilet mouth?
Armigerous 2 years ago
no but i'm sure everyone else with dirty mouths kisses yours just get life stop commenting me idiot
SilverAqua 2 years ago
No I don't think I will,..I don't take orders from fuzzy dick little boys
Armigerous 2 years ago
do whatever the fuck you want to do but if this is what you do all day then you maybe should get a life and get your ass off the internet becuase your just ruining it
SilverAqua 2 years ago
No intelligent arguments, just sarcastic rhetoric, and misleading information. I will not waste my time. Go on being stubburn.
sarasofiasanchez 2 years ago
All I have done is point out what the Dems in Congress have refused to do....prohibit mojados from being covered by HR 3200...evidently you refuse to accept that....it's a matter of public record in spite of your being in denial over that
Armigerous 2 years ago
I used the word tonto for a very good reason,tonto...because the clear intent of Obama and the Democrats in Congress is to cover wetbacks with this bill....if it isn't, then why did they all vote down TWO separate amendments that would have expressly prohibited that?....and why does the bill expressly prohibit asking them about their immigration status when they show up for medical treatment?.....I eagerly await more of your toro cacate
Armigerous 2 years ago
You are totally misinformed; you keep calling it bill... there is no bill yet. I keep advocating rational discussions, by providng exact information, and you keep saying the reform says this and that... where? where? On the other hand section, 101 (a) (15) has some provisions to take care of this. Read the bill.
sarasofiasanchez 2 years ago
I've read the bill,tonto....read what the amendment would have done....as the bill is written now,ANY illegal alien can show up at a hospital for treatment and they can't be asked about their immigration or citizenship status....now do you comprende what that means or not?
Armigerous 2 years ago
You cannot even speak clearly."Tonto" means fool; that's all you got to rebuttal my point? Definitely, when you run out of intelligent arguments, insults is your only way out. Besides, I pointed the exact section of the bill... You are just saying, it says what you want, but you cannot even say what section of the bill says that. More misleading information!!!
sarasofiasanchez 2 years ago
Just read the bill. HR 3200 section 246, and you will see that President Barrack Obama was telling the truth. It does not mean, I agree with him, but I am not going to defame him, just because I do not agree with him. Read the bill. Let's have rational and sincere discussions. PLEASE!!!
sarasofiasanchez 2 years ago 2
I'm a conservative, and I love America, but this does not give me the right to disrespect another person who does not agree with my views. PLEASE tell the TRUTH. The Health Care reform, section 246 says in BOLD letters, UPPER CASE: " NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS" and it goes on to say: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal Payments for affordability credits on behalf on individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." BE PROFESSIONAL AND READ THE BILL!!!
sarasofiasanchez 2 years ago
On July 16 and amendment by Rep Dean Heller (R-Nev) that would have required use of the SAVE (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements)program to prevent illegal aliens from receiving the affordable premium credits was defeated by the House Ways and Means Committee with ALL Democrats voting against it....try again,pedro
Armigerous 2 years ago
Yea...sort of like the First Ho's affirmative action pussy
Armigerous 2 years ago
Congress should willingly participate in any plan they vote in as appropriate for their constituents. Anything else just doesn't pass the smell test!
notblondetotheroots 2 years ago
Last night's speech will become known to history as "The Great Pickaninny Okeydoke"
Armigerous 2 years ago
Yelling at the President and being disrespectful is not excuse in exorcising a differing of opinion. Facts are key here. This is shameful behavior at best.
thelipstickfemme 2 years ago 3
Are you proud of yourself for your little stunt during the president's speech? I hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes of fame because you're going down. Your career is over. Bu-bye!
otter06 2 years ago 2
heh...in your wet dreams maybe
Armigerous 2 years ago
Yes....one big non stop lie....and if the latest AP polls mean anything at all,52% of the American public agrees with me.....we know how fundamentally dishonest the boy is and what his true ideological agenda is....maybe if you did your homework instead of drooling down your chin every time he speaks,you'd understand that
Armigerous 2 years ago
Kiss my ass you GOP SOB. You and Sanford get together and go hike the trail.
TheBassRegulator 2 years ago
Tell me something,TheBassRegulator....when Barokeydoke squirts his renegade bitch nigger cum in your mouth,do you swallow it all right away,or do you french kiss that dirty leg whore your daddy knocked up and share it with her?
Armigerous 2 years ago
You'd think someone that was in the AF wouldn't be so racist and just plain nasty....guess you're being conservative though right?
TheBassRegulator 2 years ago
heh....well unlike you, I can tell the difference between an honest enlightened black man like Clarence Thomas or Ward Connerly or J C Watts or Mike Steele and a renegade jiveass bitch nigger like Barokeydoke...maybe someday when you get to be a big boy,you'll be able to as well
Armigerous 2 years ago
Maybe so OR you're one of the elderly people Obama is going to kill and you're scared....since he's doing that...right????I'd just be scared you were the second and not the first haha ( you probably even like jesse)
TheBassRegulator 2 years ago
heh..not me....I pay my own medical costs....I'm not stupid enough to sign up for ObozoCare...if your'e stupid enough to do so and become a ward of the state for the rest of your life,then be my guest
Armigerous 2 years ago
I'm not planning on signing up for the option, but it's nice if it's there for those that need it. If the naysayers can get their facts together and come up with some other ideas they might get somewhere....but last night wasn't a townhall meeting where you shouldn't be yelling out like that anyways. It was an address to congress, the nation and the world about an important subject.
TheBassRegulator 2 years ago
Finally! Some truth on the house floor. Obama is a liar and a fraud. You spoke for all of us today.
FreedomsReigning 2 years ago
Joe Wilson in 2012, he is the only guy in the room last night who would stand up for the truth.
CalebBaleb 2 years ago
Well,if it had been ME apologizing,I would have told Rahm Emanuel "I sure am sorry the First Ho' dirties up her low bred,affirmative action,colored girl pussy with such a lying gob of nigger dog shit"
Armigerous 2 years ago
This guy is a fool
cleancaveman 2 years ago
Your behavior last night was disgraceful and you should be ashamed of yourself.
emfelter 2 years ago
Well,all Joe really did is point out what a lying gob of nigger dog shit the First Ho' dirties up her low bred,affirmative action,colored girl pussy with...I don't see what all the hubbub is about
Armigerous 2 years ago
He is a disgrace to the Legistlative body and should be censored. Shame on his State.
Glas45 2 years ago
JOE WILSON FOR PRESIDENT!!!
BibleGeeek 2 years ago
You GO JOE! Thank you for speaking up last night. I read the health care plan. Our current situation is past a time for manners. It is time for the truth to come out. You may have some tough times from standing up, but in the end you will be rewarded for speaking the truth. Hold your head high.
mamemb 2 years ago
What we have is a "teachable moment."
Let's have a beer!
darcytirsia 2 years ago
Gee, great tyo know you favorite yourself. You selfish pig/
Adams42 2 years ago
You are a shame on the name of elected official. Creep.
Adams42 2 years ago
What a wonderful cowardly act Joe! The GOP has made a mess of this country! Stop blaming it on the black dude. That defines you as a racists and a coward!
ThePenneylane 2 years ago
Mr. Willson,
Your shout was heard around the world, and here in Iraq I know many who applaud your courage.
Know you are not alone. We stand by you to fight against the tyranny that is about to befall us.
If no one steps up and speaks what needs to be said we will go down in a whimper.
America's days are counted but for the few, the proud, the real Americans.
kikojaviera 2 years ago
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kikojaviera 2 years ago
"Have good heart. Go forward with God; do not hesitate. God conducts our work. If I had not this assurance I would rather guard sheep than expose myself to so great perils."
"In God's name we must fight them!"
"The King of Heaven will send more powerful forces...and when it comes to blows will it be seen who has the better right of the God of Heaven!" (Joan of Arc, Maid of Orlean, 1429) & Francisco de Aguilar, 2009
kikojaviera 2 years ago
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Joe Wilson dislplay a classic Rethuglican lack of manners, civility and shows massive redneck ignorance.
Another loudmouth, know nothing idiot.
In short, a "dumb white fuck".
Yelling out of turn and getting his facts WRONG, again.
Obama wasn't lying.
You tools of Big Insurance and deadend racists fools are the liars.
LIARS and fucking rude on top of it.
Jubb3500 2 years ago