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[Azazel000]

ORU Are A bunch of crooks Along with Sandra Lewis and The Day Center for the Homeless. They never pay taxes and fly around in jets And spit on hard working people. Fuck you and your holy Bullshit. Join The Movement thezeitgeistmovement com

[ThePrometheus89]

This video is the most pathetic video I have ever seen on youtube. I am a current student at Oral Roberts University, there is nothing wrong with the founders, and nothing wrong with the school. You should be ashamed of yourself for ever posting this video, it is an attack on a school that does in fact focus on academia, while also bringing people up spiritually. As an Engineering major, I know just how focused ORU is on academics, they offer only the best of faculty TEACH students.

[maricle17]

This isn't going to work. Get off of your "I'm so awesome because I pour coffee and have neato hair" high horse, and get right with God. He doesn't hate, and will bring ORU back to where he wants it to be.

[sisterberthabangers1]

Yea saith the Lord, not many days hence, I shall cause the decievers to eat something bad tonight. Yea, I shall cause Oral & his gospel pimping son to eat their own dung and drink their own piss saith the Lord of hosts...

[pretymisty14]

sweet water and sour water can't flow from the same fountain.... Choose your master.

[srichards01]

Oral Roberts is the ORIGINAL Big Healing, Big Preaching (Hell & Brimstone) minister. When I was a kid, my parents dragged me to his tent camp meetings many times. Even then I KNEW he was full of crap and his son Richard, is the biggest scumbag on the planet. Both are LIARS and should be put in prison. How many lives have they ruined? THOUSANDS!

[chgosatrap]

He is not teh "original" anything preacher, he is one of many preachers. However, what does that have to do with the lawsuit? I mean, if you can sue somebody for being a scumbag and a liar, no guy would ever get a date.

[flyleaf24]

annnnnnd that was stupid.

[cocogrrl]

Dick who?

[Quester550]

Who appointed YOU to be Judge over the actions of others? ORU is First and Last a BIBLE [CHRISTIAN] COLLAGE. Are you there to become an Minister, too lead others to Our Lord Jesus Christ or to study Politics as Servants of Satan ?

[MOTORCADEMUSIC]

Obviously, you have not been to COLLEGE.

[goberontheIII]

get a life jordan

[alexpv133hotmailcom]

What is this? Man people are dying all over the world. You and your 2 friends spend your time doing what? Project Free what? Get a job. Do something good for your neighbor.

Alex

[spires01]

I live in Oklahoma and im glad to see all these thieving televangelists be exsposed for what they truly are...Im also glad to see us getting more mainstream and getting rid of all the bible thumping,GW supporting idiots out of this state.

[chgosatrap]

Isn't OK still a "red state"? I don't know how "mainstream" the state has become, with the KKK advertising their new look back in 1998 (re-styled hoods to show the faces).

[spires01]

Oh I agree..Oklahoma is not as mainstream as LA,NY,or other states...There are still allot of redneck,hicks,GOp loving idiots outside of OKC but,we are making strides....Im from Queens NY and I must say that OKC has made huge strides as far as Democrat supporters....OKC is now 65% Democrat and 35% percent GOP....

[joemullins]

jordan i agree with the comments below, explain. when i watched your video i wasnt sure if i was suppose to protest agaisnt the lawsuit or protest against oru. by the way jordan did attend oru, i stopped by his room once or twice

[harker3355]

I am thrilled at the concept of protest against ORU's administration. When I was a student there, the student newspaper was heavily censored, the Student Senate was a joke, students were bullied by the Administration, and there was no such thing as opposing anything the Administration did. So this is wonderful!

[chgosatrap]

That is basically how schools are run, from pre-school through PhD. Admin is in charge, students have to follow rules, etc. etc. There is no point in attending a school that desesrves one's protestations.

[chgosatrap]

You have not explained the reason for the 'protest'. Whatever laws have been broken are being handled by the legal system, so, no need to protest there. As for the 'philosophical' differences, that's easy. Just go to a school with whose philosophy you agree. If ORU did something to you, it's easy to transfer. You are no longer a student there, so why be mad now?

[IAmBiggestFan]

LOL

this is more entertaining than watching the grubby greedy televangelists telling poor people to borrow money to 'sow a seed' in their ministry ... !!!

[PDFOUR]

You laugh but the guy makes a valid point. No where does the video talk about what the protest is for or the reason behind it. All I see are anti-christian signs and signs saying some guy lied. Lied about what? A little more information would be helpful.

[lukemcleod24]

Jordan...what's up bro? Haven't seen you in awhile

[orulawsuit]

hello

[joshmasso]

a) this is the stupidest video on youtube

b) the guy who doesnt know how to shave and is nothing more than a barista at Nords never even went to ORU

c) find something better to protest about

d) oru has done so much around the world; every institution will have it's flaws.

[orulawsuit]

fall 2003-spring 2005

[chgosatrap]

I would like someone to explain to me, what is being protested? OK, "illegality, dishonesty, manipulation, thievery, intimidation, hypocrisy", but isn't the law handling that? Do you really need to protest what the law is handling?

[MOTORCADEMUSIC]

The law sure is doing a good job of handling the President of the United States.

[chgosatrap]

The law is the President's friend, buddy, bed-fellow. The law is NOT the church's friend.

[pretymisty14]

I'm kinda confused.. are u for or agenst ORU? If your for it then thats good, and if your agenst it, then your lucky i'm not on campus right now cuzz i'd first probably punch you, then throw you behind walmart! What are you doing on that property if your trying to DESTROY IT?!?!?

[orulawsuit]

against. violence is a lack of creativity and deeply rooted in ignorance.

[MOTORCADEMUSIC]

Was that a threat? Are you kidding me?

What is even more frightening and scary than your threat of violence is the fact you use words like, "cuzz."

[chgosatrap]

I guess I don't get this thing of Christians publicly attacking other Christians. No earthly entity is perfect. I am not sure what it is you would like to see happen to ORU...do you want themm to close down? Did something bad happen to you there?

diane

[orulawsuit]

what in the video persuades you to believe that Christians are attacking Christians? what is a Christian?

[MOTORCADEMUSIC]

I think your misunderstanding comes from the assumption that everyone who has an opinion about ORU is a Christian.

[chgosatrap]

OK, true, MCM. Still, the individual who posted this is a former student of ORU. So, what I want to know is, what's the beef?

[PDFOUR]

Really? I got the opposite idea from the video.

[chgosatrap]

Yes, PD, he says he was a student there, 2003-2005. That is what he has posted in some of his comments here.

diane

[ForbiddenClay]

I went to ORU. I saw and have had so many bad things done to me there! I hope the truth comes out!!!!! I even have some proof... I used to have more, but after moving a couple of times. ACK!

[chgosatrap]

Why do people stay in places where "so many bad things" happen to them?

diane

[gimmeyomoneysucka]

When it is proved that they spent ministry money on themselves, people should ask for their donations back.

[MOTORCADEMUSIC]

class action

[harker3355]

It's about time somebody stood up to the bullies at ORU.

[beede1984]

What did ORU do to you?

[orulawsuit]

Now, does that really matter when the law has been broken?

[beede1984]

What about the whole innocent until proven guilty thing?

[rsox406]

face it you oralites you have been swindled...the gospel of salvation is an alien idea to you guys....so for all of you healers i say go to the hospitals and heal and go to cemterys and raise the dead...your faith can do little for you in this earth other than for salvation.

[123Tallie123]

It is very clear to me these accusers are NOT hearing from God because:

They are not following the scriptures on how a mature christian is to handle situations if they find someone in error.

They are sueing which is another thing against the scripture guidelines.

They gave the documents they found to the Board of Regents and at that point it was the duty of the Board to handle any misconduct if they found it to be true.

[orulawsuit]

what is god telling you? i suppose you follow the bible word for word then? i assume that you've stoned those you know are adulterers or would stone those you know are adulterers because that's also in the scriptures. The board of regents did nothing. that is why they are apart of the suit as well.

[orulawsuit]

I suppose you ARE hearing from God, right?

Who said anything about hearing from God? There have been illegal actions taken that even the Oral Roberts University Board of Regents can't pray into legality.

Let's drop this whole "turning a blind eye" thing. It's sickening. Call a spade a spade. The Board has been complicit in this misconduct because they personally GAIN from the misconduct. Wake up and smell the myrrh!

[orulawsuit]

This is the first time I've heard the one about "suing" being against "scripture guidelines?" Are "Scripture Guidelines" like the other "10 Commandments?" I don't follow. If you want to argue Theology, take it somewhere else. However, if you would prefer to discuss the lawsuit from an intellectual and ETHICAL perspective, then by all means, pony up!

We are speaking of US FEDERAL LAW, not bibliomancy.

[chgosatrap]

Tallie, "you ain't seen nothin' yet!" Every minister who has been in the news lately, for some kind of problem, error, mistake, is posted on YT and christians are posting the most vile stuff. At least this guy isn't using profanity from what I see.

[Ultrasecond]

Claiming to speak for a religion's god does not place the speaker above criticism.

[bapagan]

Can you say hypocrite? That pretty much summizes the American Christian of today. This reality obviously underscores the need for separation of Church and State. I'd say it's time to lose the tax-exempt status as well.

[onethingsailing]

repent, realize what you are doing is wrong and then stop doing and make restitution if necessary.

[orulawsuit]

When I said, "legal," I meant that "repentance" from a religious standpoint means nothing. When you and your family have stolen and robbed and preyed upon people for almost 50 years, then I think religious "repentance" is going to fall on deaf ears for most. I think that he should realize what he's doing (but he's delusional, so he won't) and he should make restitution (which he won't because he's delusional).

[jenzingrules]

Do you even go to ORU? Did your tuition money go to ORU?

[orulawsuit]

Yes, and YES. Do you think we are doing this just for the fun of it? What is bizarre to me is that before religious dogma is scrutinized, before faith is ever called into question, the ones with the QUESTIONS (me) are for some reason suspect. We are pointing a finger at a giant, ugly scab on the face of Tulsa. Some of you don't like to be aware that you have a disgusting bleeding lesion that is difficult for the rest of the world to look at and keep from vomiting.

[jenzingrules]

You never know. People out there like to cause more drama and get involved in things that have nothing to do with them. I went to ORU for 3 years. I think Richard and Lindsey are good people, theyre not perfect and they got greedy. What good can become of this? ORU closing down? Justice will be served and they will have to pay the consequences for what they did. Who are you to judge anyways?

[orulawsuit]

They are greedy. And they're beggars. Been begging for decades.

I will not succumb to your definition of the word, "judge." I am a critical mind to "discern and criticize" the most possible data available to me in the real world. I will leave it up to the Federal judge, to well... you know, JUDGE.

Will you be so inquisitive of his authority to send the Roberts Greedy to prison if he so chooses? Question his authority to "discern and criticize" the data. I dare you.

[jenzingrules]

I just dont see what mocking them will solve. Yes a judge will JUDGE them, but thats not up to you. If you were discerning you would know that God does not give us the power or the right to judge others.

[orulawsuit]

Why do prisons exist? Judgement. But see, here's the problem: you are judging US for judging instead of simply acknowledging the reality of corruption surrounding ORU and the people who control it. I seriously can't believe that this is having to be spelled out.

[jenzingrules]

And I dont think He would think too highly of you for mocking them the way you are. Yes they are greedy. I agree with that. Its just not your place to be pointing the finger. Youre not perfect, no one is. I dont think you'd like it if someone were to point the finger at your gian ugly scabs now would you?

[orulawsuit]

You yourself just said, "they are greedy." I'm smelling JUDGEMENT.

The fact that you do not seem to understand that YOU are indeed coming into this forum to JUDGE others for what you perceive as "judgement" on the Roberts and ORU, is amazing. You are in denial about your own hypocrisy as evidenced in your previous comments. Thank you for this wonderful illustration of exactly the sort of behavior that Christians are generally notorious for: conflation, misunderstanding, gullibility.

[orulawsuit]

I realize that ORU doesn't teach much in the way of a Logic course.

[chgosatrap]

So, Tulsa would do better if ORU left? What next, Rhema?

[orulawsuit]

And even if I DIDN'T go to ORU, there are PLENTY more reasons both legally and philosophically to be opposed to such a bizarre organization and the smarmy, tacky people who run it.

[onethingsailing]

what exactly are you protesting? do you want the university to fold or just repent? are you a christian?

[orulawsuit]

We are protesting illegality, dishonesty, manipulation, thievery, intimidation, hypocrisy... more?

Does any of that sound very "Christian" to you?

[onethingsailing]

so you just want them to repent?

[orulawsuit]

Could you please define the legal term for "repent?"

[Ultrasecond]

"so you just want them to repent?"

Part of repenting means taking responsibility for your actions. If that means going to jail for committing a crime, then you have no one to blame but yourself for your punishment.

[prqnl]

A University built on faith healing is a University built on lies.