Whoever says this is fake and the girl who was shooting it has a stupid or slow reaction. I'm her fucking brother and she was only thirteen when this happened and had obviously never seen a plane crash or someone die right in front of her. She was in to much shock to even understand what happened. This video is 100% real to the assholes who think its fake.
I'm not disputing whether or not this crash actually happened but I have a problem the video/audio. The aircraft went down at least a mile away from the camera yet the crash was heard at the exact moment of impact. Wouldn't the sound have been delayed several seconds? Just an observation.
@mnpd007 - As lives were lost I will keep it simple. Your ideas are correct, however timing and distance in real flight are spatially dissimilar in a big way, therefore control inputs are way different. Of course I am sure you suspected that.
Headed nose down at least 15 degress, T- 6 Texans sharply drop their right wing and snap roll inverted when they stall? Doesn't sound like a very good trainer.
@sbd45acp Following on what JustinAndersen said above, the stall was caused by loss of airspeed. The pilot most likely tried to correct it causing the wing to dip and stall as stated above. If you try pulling back on the stick in this sort of situation and just happen to slightly dip a wing, the aircraft will go into that type of spin and repeat over and over until the correct amount of air needed to maintain lift is reached. There was simpily no time to react to the situation.
The T-6 is very easy to stall. I have flown in Tim Mcdonalds T-6 (TA-799) which crached on the July 2nd, 2010. This plane that you just watched crash into the water was one of his friends. When the T-6 does that type of stall, It's near Impossible to recover it. If you recover and live, your super luckey.
Blue sky, blue water sunlight, clouds and several slow rolls. Looked like spatial orientation failure. Attempted to correct in the wrong direction w/ no altitude left. I see no stall.
@sbd45acp No, that was a stall my friend. If he had another 1500-2000 feet below him, it would have started in a flat spin. Have flown these birds in person and in simulators. Very easy aircraft to stall.
I don't pilot and never felt the urge, but have flown RC gas and electric models for decades. I've stalled wings and found the hard way not to pull back on the stick since it just tightens the spiral and the speed. I learned to cut the throttle and level the wings before throttling up again. Always wondered if real plane recovery is simliar. Very sorry for the loss of good friends.
@mnpd007 I have read that no properly trimmed airplane can ever stall itself. Improper inputs from the pilot are always required to enter and maintain a stalled condition. I believe your RC recovery technique is the same for full-scale planes as well.
@MikeRomeoVictor You're right in that airplanes do not stall themselves. But a stall in and of itself is not an aweful thing. Accidents in which the stall is pointed out as the problem usually have a number of factors that lead up to the stall. Such as this video. Looks like he was low and just get too much AoA on it working to pull out. Seen it time and time again with all sorts of flying machines.
You don't use your ailerons to recover from a spin or to maneuver when stalled. The reason is that a stalled wing will go deeper into the stall if you increase its angle of attack, which is what lowering the aileron will effectively do to that wing. So you use your rudder. A spin recovery is usually done by reducing throttle to idle, giving full rudder opposite the yaw and then neutralizing the elevator, while keeping ailerons neutral.
@mnpd007 When you enter a stall it is usually because you were going to slow or pitch up to fast and the lift produced by the current speed is insufficient to maintain current pitch attitude.the wing will buffet due to air becoming choppy over the top of the wing, in an extended stall any control inputs to pull up without sufficient airspeed will only worsen the condition of the stall. In a stall you push full throttle drop the nose, build airspeed then begin a climb to regain lost altitude.
@mnpd007 you are correct, stall recovery is forward stick and full power. (althought for rc idk about the full power cause of the massive power to weight ratio) to exit a spin, the recovery is different but the basic thing to remember, a stall is exceeding critical angle of attack, if you are not longer exceeding it you are no longer stalled. so forward elevator brings you out of it.
@mnpd007 The entry to the spin is caused by one wing stalling, either because the rudder input at the stall was asymmetric or the pilot attempted to bank. Often the first instinct of a pilot when his wing suddenly drops is to attempt to counter it with aileron input. This put the stalled wing further into a stall and increases the spin. Standard spin recovery procedure is to cut throttle, stick forward, ailerons neutral and apply opposite rudder. Speed builds and you pull out of the dive.
The difference that you may not realize is the power to weight ratio. I fly RC's and am also a pilot. RC's can recover so quickly due to the extreme power to weight ratio that full size aircraft dont have the luxury of having.
@tomturntx Glad you have an opinion on the loss of two lives. Maybe the next bad decision you make costs you your life and somebody will make a stupid assumption as to what type of "accident" you had. Easy being a keyboard pilot tomturntx. Keep your comments to yourself
@gmavs4 How would someone keep their comments to themselves, in the "comment" section? Perhaps what you meant to say is "Don't anyone make comments that upset me because the comment section is only for people who agree with me or say what I want them to say." Isn't that what you meant?
The comment section is for comments you self-righteous ass. If you can't take it then you're the one that needs to go elsewhere.
If you choose to comment on this video, please remember that two lives were lost in this accident. The pilot and passanger were good friends to many of us. Dr. Zeiger was an excellent pilot, but accidents can happen to even the best of us.
Whoever says this is fake and the girl who was shooting it has a stupid or slow reaction. I'm her fucking brother and she was only thirteen when this happened and had obviously never seen a plane crash or someone die right in front of her. She was in to much shock to even understand what happened. This video is 100% real to the assholes who think its fake.
TheDTC7 1 week ago 2
I'm not disputing whether or not this crash actually happened but I have a problem the video/audio. The aircraft went down at least a mile away from the camera yet the crash was heard at the exact moment of impact. Wouldn't the sound have been delayed several seconds? Just an observation.
cencoastdave1 2 weeks ago
@mnpd007 - As lives were lost I will keep it simple. Your ideas are correct, however timing and distance in real flight are spatially dissimilar in a big way, therefore control inputs are way different. Of course I am sure you suspected that.
Lear23Driver 2 weeks ago
Why do people feel compelled to do aerobatics in not very agile aircraft so low????
baldo2104 2 months ago
Emotionless moron. She seemed to have little comprehention of the loss of lives.
radreader01 3 months ago 2
kind of sad I flew with this guy for years and he was my moms boss
stagedivers24 4 months ago
id say she's handling that pretty well, me, shocked, woundering if the pilot is okay, dialing 911, something.
ht4005 4 months ago
Someone should try installing VG's on the wings. They give amazing results.
videoclipits 4 months ago
Headed nose down at least 15 degress, T- 6 Texans sharply drop their right wing and snap roll inverted when they stall? Doesn't sound like a very good trainer.
sbd45acp 4 months ago
@sbd45acp Following on what JustinAndersen said above, the stall was caused by loss of airspeed. The pilot most likely tried to correct it causing the wing to dip and stall as stated above. If you try pulling back on the stick in this sort of situation and just happen to slightly dip a wing, the aircraft will go into that type of spin and repeat over and over until the correct amount of air needed to maintain lift is reached. There was simpily no time to react to the situation.
cmbwingman 4 months ago
The top comment says it all..
sablemase 4 months ago
What kind of fucked up reaction was that? Stupid bitch
whosh0tu 5 months ago
The T-6 is very easy to stall. I have flown in Tim Mcdonalds T-6 (TA-799) which crached on the July 2nd, 2010. This plane that you just watched crash into the water was one of his friends. When the T-6 does that type of stall, It's near Impossible to recover it. If you recover and live, your super luckey.
RIP...
cmbwingman 5 months ago
Why did this happen? Anyone?
TheDeJureTour 5 months ago
Sounded like she got horny and turned on by watching the plane crash killing 2 people.
SteveWard3928 5 months ago
She don't seemed to concerned!!
TheVille8086 5 months ago
the dumb bitch acts like its no big deal and fucking zooms in on the other plane
Scienceoverreligion 5 months ago 20
crashed into the water, not flew you fucking retard.
Polybun 5 months ago
Blue sky, blue water sunlight, clouds and several slow rolls. Looked like spatial orientation failure. Attempted to correct in the wrong direction w/ no altitude left. I see no stall.
sbd45acp 5 months ago
@sbd45acp No, that was a stall my friend. If he had another 1500-2000 feet below him, it would have started in a flat spin. Have flown these birds in person and in simulators. Very easy aircraft to stall.
cmbwingman 4 months ago
You sound like you just won the lottery ya insensitive bitch...
MrSlapjaw 6 months ago
Dr. Zeiger should have spent the money on a nice boat instead... HHAHAAhaaha
OsceolaLongBeard 6 months ago
I just wonder why he chose to go into an inverted flight at such a low altitude?
TOPHAT1966GS 6 months ago
I was sittin on my back patio the day I watched this plane hit the water
7130odyssey 6 months ago
I don't pilot and never felt the urge, but have flown RC gas and electric models for decades. I've stalled wings and found the hard way not to pull back on the stick since it just tightens the spiral and the speed. I learned to cut the throttle and level the wings before throttling up again. Always wondered if real plane recovery is simliar. Very sorry for the loss of good friends.
mnpd007 7 months ago
@mnpd007 I have read that no properly trimmed airplane can ever stall itself. Improper inputs from the pilot are always required to enter and maintain a stalled condition. I believe your RC recovery technique is the same for full-scale planes as well.
MikeRomeoVictor 7 months ago
@MikeRomeoVictor You're right in that airplanes do not stall themselves. But a stall in and of itself is not an aweful thing. Accidents in which the stall is pointed out as the problem usually have a number of factors that lead up to the stall. Such as this video. Looks like he was low and just get too much AoA on it working to pull out. Seen it time and time again with all sorts of flying machines.
pulsejet1 3 months ago
You don't use your ailerons to recover from a spin or to maneuver when stalled. The reason is that a stalled wing will go deeper into the stall if you increase its angle of attack, which is what lowering the aileron will effectively do to that wing. So you use your rudder. A spin recovery is usually done by reducing throttle to idle, giving full rudder opposite the yaw and then neutralizing the elevator, while keeping ailerons neutral.
jstro1 6 months ago
@mnpd007 When you enter a stall it is usually because you were going to slow or pitch up to fast and the lift produced by the current speed is insufficient to maintain current pitch attitude.the wing will buffet due to air becoming choppy over the top of the wing, in an extended stall any control inputs to pull up without sufficient airspeed will only worsen the condition of the stall. In a stall you push full throttle drop the nose, build airspeed then begin a climb to regain lost altitude.
thehiddenhand20 6 months ago
@mnpd007 you are correct, stall recovery is forward stick and full power. (althought for rc idk about the full power cause of the massive power to weight ratio) to exit a spin, the recovery is different but the basic thing to remember, a stall is exceeding critical angle of attack, if you are not longer exceeding it you are no longer stalled. so forward elevator brings you out of it.
gowill2 5 months ago
@mnpd007 The entry to the spin is caused by one wing stalling, either because the rudder input at the stall was asymmetric or the pilot attempted to bank. Often the first instinct of a pilot when his wing suddenly drops is to attempt to counter it with aileron input. This put the stalled wing further into a stall and increases the spin. Standard spin recovery procedure is to cut throttle, stick forward, ailerons neutral and apply opposite rudder. Speed builds and you pull out of the dive.
JustinAndersen 4 months ago
The difference that you may not realize is the power to weight ratio. I fly RC's and am also a pilot. RC's can recover so quickly due to the extreme power to weight ratio that full size aircraft dont have the luxury of having.
baldo2104 2 months ago
OMG that plane just flew into the water *the most undramatic yelp ever*
the sheer lack of emotion of the girl as she saw the plane crash made me lol.
laputadetumadre11 8 months ago
His right wing stalled in the turn
cirrusflier5 8 months ago
@tomturntx Glad you have an opinion on the loss of two lives. Maybe the next bad decision you make costs you your life and somebody will make a stupid assumption as to what type of "accident" you had. Easy being a keyboard pilot tomturntx. Keep your comments to yourself
gmavs4 11 months ago
@gmavs4 How would someone keep their comments to themselves, in the "comment" section? Perhaps what you meant to say is "Don't anyone make comments that upset me because the comment section is only for people who agree with me or say what I want them to say." Isn't that what you meant?
The comment section is for comments you self-righteous ass. If you can't take it then you're the one that needs to go elsewhere.
kevjay777 5 months ago
If you choose to comment on this video, please remember that two lives were lost in this accident. The pilot and passanger were good friends to many of us. Dr. Zeiger was an excellent pilot, but accidents can happen to even the best of us.
lowflybye 11 months ago 9
@lowflybye
My sincerest condolences to you and all of Dr. Zeiger's loved ones. I hope this video can help others avoid this kind of tragic accident.
MikeRomeoVictor 11 months ago
what a Dumb b..c those pilots DIE! ( RIP )
hansclaw 11 months ago