Von Thronstahl-The Age of Decay and Democracy

[ShinyCarletto]

The biggest modern problem of europe is corruption, which was largely brought by capitalism, and by the church who during the medieval forced jews to become usurers because they couldn't own properties; and still people will search for profits, democracy is one of the worst political form because the biggest half of the population will do its own business don't caring about the little part, and rich men or men from mafia can sit in parliaments by buying their votes. sorry for my bad english.

[lillybellebutterfly1]

@ShinyCarletto " the church who during the medieval forced jews to become usurers because they couldn't own properties;"

You are wrong here. Actually usury is comanded to the Jews by the Talmud, which is the holy books of the Judaism. Jews are taught that they are not allowed to lend money to Gentiles without usury. The Gentiles property is the property of the Jews, stealing from a Gentile is no sin, according to Talmud, or even killing a Gentile is no sin.

[lillybellebutterfly1]

@ShinyCarletto so you see, the Jews themselves started usury, they were not forced by the Christian Church. Besides, usury is a sin, according to Christian religion. It's the equivalent of stealing, which is forbidden by one of the ten commandments in the Christian Bible.

[freakfurt]

National Socialism now!

[Nered88]

@freakfurt Yes !

[DeepSilkDisliker]

on the other hand,ALL Greek Philosophers reject Democracy,and the historical truth is that every other system has offered Greece of the time plenty of achievements while Democracy only offered the extermination or exile of all Philosophers and noumerous Civil Wars,i.e. DESTRUCTION

[DeepSilkDisliker]

Democracy...greek word,means the system where Demos(=the people) rule(= verb 'krateo'),have the power. It is obvious that nowhere and NEVER such a system can be applied.simple logic.even in ancient Greece,the limitations imposed for one to participate in the system proves the verbalism of the whole thing.

[imjustmakingthisstup]

Are they actually uber nationalists or just ironic like most other Martial Industrial bands?

[Zeitgeist6]

@imjustmakingthisstup

As far as I know they're pretty right wing. I'm not but I still like their music.

As the guy from Triarii put it: Art is neither Left or Right.

[Wylff]

@imjustmakingthisstup Everyone with any sense are nationalist.

[DerErwecker]

hitler is known by every child on the earth, they made him the greatest popstar of all times. In a thousand years when noone can remember the beatles, hitler will still be known.

But why ? Cause of the same reasons as Bin Laden. hitler was sponsored by US to fight against russia, like bin laden, his death is a mystery, like bin laden, he moved masses like bin laden. Hitler is bin laden, Bin Laden is Hitler.

[Dreadnaught2021]

The world needs another such as Alexander the Great, truly worthy of being World Emperor.

[ironx00]

@wachaufeuropa ah you fucked up Europeans... loving Misery loves company! Destroy your pathetic socialist utopia, political correctness AND Muslims that don't assimilate which is fucking up you lands NOT DEMOCRACY! DUMB FUCKS, YOU EURO-WHITE-TRASH... you NEVER LEARN!

[kongomueller1]

Hitler did the same "mistake" as Marx,

Marx created the capitalism by defining it

Hitler created indirectly our current democracy-decay regime by fighting it, while it didnt even exist.

[ironx00]

@kongomueller1 YOUR SO FUCKED UP... DEMENTED UNEDUCATED FUCK! WTF...YOU TALKING ABOUT. YOUR ARE A TWISTER SISTER!

[kongomueller1]

@ironx00

thanks dude :)

[MorsOmniaVincit]

We don't need words. We need actions and deeds. Europa is dying.

[Bellybeard]

Please visit "Thor Steinar(.)de" for Nationalistic style!

;)

[greenghost2008]

Anarcho-capitalism is the best alternative to democracy.

[ostrogotu]

@greenghost2008 , there is no sane alternative to capitalism.All lead to dead-ends.

[UnstoppableDestiny]

@greenghost2008 National Socialism is the best form of government, bar none.

[Nortaneous]

@greenghost2008 Anarcho-capitalism leads to states as authoritarian as those found under the worst forms of dictatorship, and with a much more harmful underlying worldview. Short-term economic success is seen as the most worthy pursuit. That leads to sociopathy.

Localism is the solution to the modern democratic problem. Your participation in the current democratic system means nothing if there are millions of other people also participating. Pissing in an ocean.

[greenghost2008]

@Nortaneous there used to be people in the market who would make 100 year long contract and economic plans. Not exactly short term economic success. Read democracy the god that failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.

[Pwn0r88]

I dont like democracy, but neither i like dictatorships.

We need an authoritarian Monarchy

[greenghost2008]

@Pwn0r88 Try some anarcho-capitalism. Private business/citizens will replace all political authority.

[ostrogotu]

@Pwn0r88 , and what about authoritarian monarchy? or you sincerely think that a king is less dictatorial that,let say, a mobster?"the clothes" are different, the essence the same ...democracy has its faults, but it is the best form of social order that has ever been invented, because it allows the maximum number of people to achieve, if not happiness, at least a generalised state of well-being, thru equal access to resourses and opportunities.I can't say that about authoritarian regimes.

[vanoverschelde666]

@ostrogotu Agreed, the only thing interessting (Facism) is: it's a warmachine very difficult to stop if you put a nice leader on top of it (tactical and strategic).

This makes this system only interessting for militairy use and wars.

Thought every system can be made better. from Communism to socialism is a good example + a co op with right wing party + a neutral party

[wolverine2244]

I actually do like this song. Benjamin Franklin once said that democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.

[Germeka]

@wolverine2244  I like that quote. So true...

[wolverine2244]

Fuck the Nazis and Communists!

[SwiftResurgence88]

@wolverine2244 stupid

[destrvctio]

may the IMPERATOR IMMORTALIS HIESVS CHRISTVS come and lead EVROPA

[edgeeffect]

Meritocracy now!

[PridefulMe]

Democracy is an ideal, rarely a system in practice. The are next to no democracies left in the world. The majority of societies are simply oligarchies; societies governed by an economic elite. Countries where markedliberalism stands relatively strong, such as the USA, are examples of such.

We live in an age of authoritarianism, propaganda and collectivism. With the proper ideals, that may be a good thing, but today we see that it's clearly not.

[DarkRiderN]

@PridefulMe That's because democracies are intrinsically plutocratic. Furthermore, I do not see how an ideal that sets the people, the majority of whom are nothing but a moronic mob, to decide what is good for their country. Another thing about democracies is their reliance on moral (=sentimental) restraints, and this is basically ... fallacious.

[InfernoPervers]

@PridefulMe

You speak the truth

[wapenstilstandsonder]

@PridefulMe Oligarchies, and facist too.

[Heavymetalgamer28]

@PridefulMe

Democracy has never, EVER been put into practice, what you are thinking of is 'Republics', and there very few, if any, of those left at all. A republic actually has elected officials running the government, a democracy is basically 'What the majority says goes for all of society, and if you don't like that, fuck you.', the only thing even remotely close to democracy ever put in practice is tribalism.

[Granualt]

Fantastic as always... perfect music when you are reading Julis Evola..hail..

[magyar51288]

purist form of fascism was 30s italy before il duce got involved with hitler, if he sided with allies instead fascism would of emerged dominate political ideology imo, look at the postwar "light" "fascism" like the falange and peronism, imagine what would of happened if true fascism was not stigmatized by italy joining the axis

[ImperialGuard9001]

asas

[11vivisection11]

well.. MY winter here in Sweden didnt come without snow :)

[wolverine2244]

"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner."-Benjamin Franklin

[JohanMWallin]

As well as the inside of your skull, bro. ^^

[JohanMWallin]

So you guys would actually prefer to live in a dictatorship? Nobody insists that you stay, so why don't you give it a try?

The next time any of you have a history book in front of you, make sure you read it too!

Fuckin' unbelievable...

[JohanMWallin]

Aristocracy, eh? We've already tried that particular brand of stupid bullshit

[ImperialGuard9001]

A try where exacly? Fascism NS and ideologies related ended in 1945

[Thrillseeker666]

They didnt

[ImperialGuard9001]

Give me a example of one in standing today

[Thrillseeker666]

National Sozialist. Thus, Nazi.

What's the big deal? The term was coined for simplicity's sake, nothing more. It's really no more disrespectful than calling a United States Postal Service Letter Carrier a mailman. Nazi is only a smear-word if you take it as such.

The only NSDAP member I can think of who actively used this word, was indeed Dr. Göbbels who himself once used to be a Socialist of the left.

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[ImperialGuard9001]

Actualy I was refearing that Fascist was in italy not in Germany as for the Nazi well NAzi was never used in times of Third Reich by the germans often Nazi was a lot more used by anglo saxons that because of their worl wide influence by mass media became the starnrd word. I didnt knew that Goebbles used it often

[ImperialGuard9001]

Nazi wasnt used by Goebbles was invented by Communists and then used by Allies that spread around the world especealy with influence of anglo saxon media

[JohanMWallin]

They lasted long enough.

[Polttomurha]

How about Francos Spain which remained para-fascist until the death of Franco in 1975. Or the Brazilian form of fascism, integralism, which maintained it's significant role in politics to the year 1965, when it was abolished by the military regime.

[ImperialGuard9001]

Franco was hardly a fascist he was a dictator and autorian he had fascists in his regime Franco describe himself as monarchist as regent of Spain

[Polttomurha]

"Para-fascist" I said, didn't I? It's not about what you call your own political stand, the values matter most. For example: modern neo-nazis have nothing to do with an authoritarian goverment which built autobahns. Mostly because most of the "neo-nazis" are more like anarchists in reality.

Franco was a conservative, christian, nationalist. That's fascism's core values.

[ImperialGuard9001]

I agree with your stance about neo nazis of today but the thing is Spain had real fascist that were the Falange for me they were the real fascists based on ideas of Mussolini and NS but fit for Spain scenario

[ImperialGuard9001]

For me Franco was conservator is like AutroFascism in Austria wasnt real fascism real fascim was NS in Germany likewise Salazar in Portugal the New State the so called fascist portuguese regime was officialy called II Republic

And most of their ideas etc were just conservador catholic a long way from fascism

[goatshredder]

I have to agree, there's nothing left to save here.

[Dreadnaught2021]

Has anything good ever come of a popularity contest?

[PriestessofHecate]

Yes!Hitler was elected after all!apart from that i dont think so...

[Dreadnaught2021]

Hitler left large tracts of europe devastated with nothing to show for it. He gave enemies their greatest propaganda tool. His image is now a straw man. His plan to crush Zionism led to the Zionists having their own tangible base and squandered logistics capacity to do it. Hitler failed spectacularly....this is all good how?

[PriestessofHecate]

Well,it seemed like a good idea at that time...and how should he possibly have known that his enemies were that powerful to turn his cleansing vision against him and distort the ideal of nationalism?

[HailEnki91]

@PriestessofHecate the idiots ranting on against great men of the past have no own plans for the future thus unknowlingly over the net become little trolls. The future will not see a man as Hitler for he was maybe the biggest humanist in the past century. This world needs an iron hand combined with an unbreakable will to move the world forward

[greenghost2008]

@HailEnki91 I think John D Rockafella was one of the greatest men of the last century. People think he is evil. I think he is cool.

[vanoverschelde666]

@PriestessofHecate I don't know, maybe a lack of tactic (Hitler wasn't a tacticus for sure) + infighting + he was going to fast (it was build on sand).

He didn't know (maybe, maybe not). But the first and the third is perfectly made his damnation

[SirWinstoneChurchill]

@PriestessofHecate

I love this song, it has a haunting quality to it that is unparalleled... I don't support democracy, I support rugged individualism, capitalism and republican representation...

The greatest knot upon the liberty of all European people is the praeterpolitical power of the churches to institute monogamy as an ecclesiastic rule of law, thereby enabling them to determine the legitimacy of the succession of the pagan kings and the natural rights to property and self-defense...

[SirWinstoneChurchill]

@PriestessofHecate

Monogamy gives religious clergy power to judge the lawfulness of marriages and power of ecclesiastical censure for divorce.

The government of men's external actions by religion, pretending the change of nature in their consecrations cannot be esteemed a work extraordinary, it is no other than a conjuration or incantation, whereby they would have men to believe an alteration of nature that is contrary to the testimony of sight and of all the rest of the senses...

[SirWinstoneChurchill]

@PriestessofHecate

The idea "thou shalt marry and be given in marriage" is corrupt and degenerate, which is an impossible immortality of a kind (i.e. "eternal love"), but not of the persons of men.

Ecclesiastics would have men believe they will receive condign punishment and are not worthy to be counted amongst them that shall obtain the next world for their contumacy of monogamy, as opposed to the freedom of the polygamy found in nature, which is inherently pagan.

Evolution is heterosexual.

[SirWinstoneChurchill]

@PriestessofHecate

It should be no mystery as to why we have so many 'sex scandal' theaters in politics... It is an ecclesiastic creation designed purposely to usurp the rightful place of pagan monarchs and their aristocratic peerage.

Unfortunately, having bought into the conformity of such hypocritical facades, we have allowed the anti-evolutionists to redefine the nature of the human animal and dissolve nationalism, which is the eugenic nature of optimal human development for all races.

[vanoverschelde666]

@PriestessofHecate ...... Points of failure: Not enough espionage on other countries (argument: Red Orchestra), to much rushing (more mobilisation was necessary, this can be seen on different situations for the Third Reich), to much different fronts (goes together with the rushing), Hitler wasn't a strategist and definitely no tacticus, more rational thinking and less impulsive commands + why do you have experienced veteran generals, commanders and advisors if you always want it your way?

[thepathofice]

@Dreadnaught2021 Consider that Hitler was only semi-conscious of what he was serving and how his actions were part of a much larger cycle. While it may seem that the forces of destruction triumphed which is understandable from an 'on the ground' perspective, we will soon see the elimination of the world's centralized 'warsaw ghetto' - and the complete liquidation of subhumanity as this grand cycle approaches its final stages.

[restorer33]

@Dreadnaught2021 Out of that age of chaos and materialism(kali yuga) will be born a new spring.

Our race has to go through this shit and come through shining!New heroes are being born

The age of zion will be crushed!

[ironx00]

@Dreadnaught2021 fuck Marxist.... fuck you!

[Dreadnaught2021]

@ironx00

I am not a capitalist, but I am not a Marxist either. I merely desire effective leadership.

[ViciousA1]

@Dreadnaught2021

;o) proberly a dick size contest...

Why are people writting about Hitler, ooohhh its a German band so "they must be nazis", von thronstahl is TOTALLY opposite..... Decay of Democracy.....

[vanoverschelde666]

@ViciousA1 totally opposite? I wouldn't say they are nazis (they may have better ideas, or just the opposite), still, they are fascists, total opposite? No

[kasbiel]

Long live the Tradition!

[wachaufeuropa]

Democracy is good when the majority has no problem with a growing minority.

Today, WE NEED AUTHORITARIAN LEADERSHIP NOT DEMOCRATIC TO CLEAN UP EUROPE !

[ZeromusChom]

Europe, we in the States need your guidance. Please wake up for the sake of the world.

[Dreadnaught2021]

It's also good when most citizens are not idiots. Now is not that time.

[SimulacronX]

Ok, Nazibitch, I'll play your authoritarian leadership now, you little devoted abigail.

Go and clean your brain now, get normal, human and democratic. Or socialist.

Cheers dude hahaha

[SiegfriedRatel]

How about shutting that fuck up? Democrazy is for misfits and scum like you. Kindly fuck off!

With love.

[SimulacronX]

I love your reasoning and well-thought arguments. Your kind, I must admit, really strengthens my aversion against enemies of democracy, though.

I don't really know your motivation for worshipping serial killers and ugly dictators or whatever other despots, but what the hell.

As long as you don't harm anyone, you can act like a jackass all your life, that's fine.

[georgekostaras]

Right you are my friend. Democracy by its very definition is Freedom. Dictatorship is a system that is mean to benefit the dictator and his small circle of friends, everyone else can go to hell while the newspapers tell them they are in heaven.

Let's both stand together against Hitler and everything he stood for. Down with fascism. Up with enlightenment.

[SimulacronX]

Cheers to you, georgekostaras, I don't see lots of reasonable guys and opinions on those martial, fascism glorifying videos.

Thronstahl is one of the worst, they exalt and magnify the innermost of the Nazis, the esthetics, the esoteritcal and occult "heart" of them. Quite despicable.

[SiegfriedRatel]

3 words:

Me Ne Frego!

[SimulacronX]

This is exactly the problem in society: apathy, lethargy and indifference towards dangerous political trends and drifts. People like you are used by dicators and nazi freaks, well done.

[goatshredder]

No, democracy as we have it is generally harmful to freedom, as the shapers of the US constitution understood.

One of countless examples - the smoking ban, a direct assault on personal freedom cheered through by most of the population.

The average person has no interest in any man's freedom but his own, and no compunction about living off the backs of others as long as he is allowed to do it.

In an age of mass ignorance, apathy and social collapse, democracy is beyond fallacious, it's evil.

[RitchieBrinckmore]

Hitler was a nazi, not a fascist. Get your facts straight, goddamnit.

Myself, I oppose democracy because it allows people like Hitler to rise to power.

[georgekostaras]

Nazi and fascist are one and the same. The labels are different but in principle they are one and the same.

[RitchieBrinckmore]

No. Nazism is essentially socialism, only with a touch of racism. Fascism is the opposite to socialism.

[wolverine2244]

Ok, why did the Fascists in Italy call their philosophy National Socialism? That is where the term originated. "Nazi" was an epithet, they never refered to themselves as "Nazis"

[RitchieBrinckmore]

And what source says that?

Fascism and socialism are two completely different ideologies. Just because Italy and Germany happened to collaborate during WW2 that doesn't mean that the ideologies are necessarily related.

[ImperialGuard9001]

Well Mussolini was a socialist previous to fouding his party he say that he was both tradionalist and revolunaraty he didnt agree with communism neither with capitalism was a third way so to speak at least that what was in ideology

[Thrillseeker666]

Actually, they did refer to themselves as nazis. But why does it matter?

[ImperialGuard9001]

The Fascists of Italy call their ideology Fascism NS was in Germany.

[goatshredder]

Do you honestly believe democracy exists because our ruling class are benevolent and self-sacrificing? No. It's a gimmick to persuade the simpleminded they have some sort of stake in the political system.

Democracy brings chaos and enlightenment will be stamped out by the mob.

[SimulacronX]

PS.: Oh, I funnily see on your channel ("Joys of Complete Submission") you are some kind of S/M lover, you may like master and servants, from a deviant, paraphiliac sexual point of view. But in reality, with normal people, they just want rights and freedom, so they choose democracy.

Politics is not a sado/maso game, you know.

[SiegfriedRatel]

Cry me a river.

[SirWinstoneChurchill]

@wachaufeuropa

No, what Europe needs is to kick the Muslims out, get rid of the EU and preserve their individual nations and the rich cultures that built the modern West.

When I go to Germany, I want German beer, and to see Albrecht Durer's art works... In Italy, I want to see the aqueducts, the Appian Way and the old pagan Emperor's chariots... In England, Scotland, France, Poland, Russia, Spain and everywhere else in Europe I want to see how they developed and what they did to evolve...

[vanoverschelde666]

@SirWinstoneChurchill 1 Kick muslims: Yes, get rid of EU: No, a big change to the systems, yes. Even with Europe this can be, preservation of culture is the problem of the nation itself, if they can't, it's because they are inferior. I understand your opinion, but still this is a problem caused by minorities kicked out of their own countries coming to our countries. It's a shame that organisations as Sharia can exist.

If you want to go on, private message me.

[SirWinstoneChurchill]

@vanoverschelde666

The hacks running the European Union are flooding Europe with third world trash... The sooner Europeans rise up and throw these communist grifters currently running the E.U. out of power, the better.

(I actually would prefer the vigorous old pagan monarchies to a bunch of physically weak bankers and lawyers.)

[ironx00]

@wachaufeuropa ah you fucked up Europeans... loving Misery loves company! Destroy your pathetic socialist utopia, political correctness AND Muslims that don't assimilate which is fucking up you lands NOT DEMOCRACY! DUMB FUCKS, YOU EURO-WHITE-TRASH... you NEVER LEARN!

[TheBlackFrog79]

@ironx00 Excuse me, but...your country lives in a pathetic (evangelic) socialist utopia. We are pagan barbarians. We don't need this shit.

[TorSalqvist]

This is a TOP3 song from Von Thronstahl (with Dressed in black uniforms, and Adoration to Europe).

[GuderianTzimisces]

Democracy sucks and that's a fact :)

[wallentin76]

@GuderianTzimisces

Amen to what!

[malagem666]

@GuderianTzimisces And wath is your solution for this problem? It's easy to say that something sucks without showing a solution or another possibility for the problem.

[Speaker2idiots]

I love this song.

[VonDerSoldateN]

One of the greatest songs from Sacrificare!

Europa Aeterna!