I live in Texas, just so you foreigners know. I'm a libertarian. I own more guns than you can count to, ok. If one of you moves or travels here and tries to harm someone in my family, I will pump so many bullets into you, that the police will have trouble finding your bits and pieces in the huge pile of lead. This also applies to you californian pieces of shit. Balance your budget idiots, stop trying to steal money from other states.
Of course they never call it by its real name ( in support of the child killer) they aren't totally insane. That would never fly in the eyes of the public.
NO NO NO. they call it immoral. etc etc
But remember they claim that morality is impossible, they claim that their are no absoultes, they claim that their is no right and wrong.
That is the whole problem with people who don't see the world in absoults. They verw reality as a constant flux everything is in motion.
Noting is truily right nothing is totally wrong just gray area.
Of course when a person disagrees with them then suddenly they don't argue that they are right. (That being an absoulte) But that the other person is wrong. That being right is impossible. Since their is no right and wrong.
Hence they come out against the GOV for exectuing a child murderer
I find it amazing that you hold such silly notions. To think that you are advocating a belief that would cuase further harm and damage to innocent people in vain efforst of trying to gain some sense of moraitly.
What are you trying to prove? Are you just some punk-adolescent so unhappy with your life all you do is sit at your computer and come up with ways to insult people?
Because I don't know some quote that makes me unread? What does it being a quote even matter?
You call me a bible thumper and then post a direct quote from the bible? What hypocritical nonsense.
A conflict between India and Muslims? How can a country and a religion conflict with each other? Do you mean Hindu and Muslim?
I didn't "brought in the bible" as you so eloquently put it, I mentioned Jesus Christ. He is also a reference in the Jewish and Muslim religions.
And you've done nothing to even begin showing my stance as "silly." You might try actually thinking about what I write instead of immediately looking for holes and ways to shoot it down.
Where did I quote the Bible? You aren't making any sense. Where did I suggest not punishing a murderer?
Governments have no moral responsibility, individuals do - the government has a legal responsibility to uphold law, which sometimes makes them immoral (when upholding bad laws).
Justice isn't about trying to even up the score, that's revenge. Justice is about trying to right what's been wronged, and that's not as easy to figure out.
You asked what about JESUS and Ghandi. In the hope that people would think of the misinterpreted teachings of Jesus. When the bible clearly defines several reasons that a person should be executed.
How is kidding napping a person and holding him not revenge??? Just cause you call it a jail sentence doesn't make it something that it isn't
What you are tying to do is redefine words to better suit you argument.
You continue to spout nothing but incoherent nonsense.
I referenced Jesus, not the bible. They are not inseparable.
Arresting someone is not the same as kidnapping them, trying to equate the two is ridiculous.
I don't have enough time to waste it on you, so consider this my last reply. Perhaps if you'd been able to present any sort of argument or logical and level-headed discussion I'd feel differently, but as-is you just aren't worth my time.
I don't fudge words, you do - constantly. And I rarely engage in chat amongst like minded crowds. I'm also not confused because you are somehow enlightening, you just can't put together a logical thought or statement so you don't make any sense. Anyone would find that confusing.
And I'm not angry, I just find it pointless to keep talking since you never say anything logical.
What was really weird about this was that Bush actually sided against his home state and tried to use executive power to uphold the world court treaty. Not something I'd expect from George but oh well. Glad this guy got what he deserved.
What is really sad is everyone knows Texas has the highest execution record in the USA. Also that most Texans are armed, willing to use those weapons, and it is legal to do so to protect family, home, and property. Yet people still commit capitol crimes in Texas. Talk about bottom feeders who can not read the handwriting on the wall.
Anyone who clings to the historically untrue and thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence never solves anything I'ld advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon and Duke of Wellington let them debate it
Hitlers ghost could refere the jury might be the Dodo, Great Auk, n Passenger Pigeon. Violence naked force has settled more issues in history than has any other factor the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this paid for it with their lives n freedoms
Where did I say it never solves anything? I said it only breeds more violence. The only peace at the end of violence (or war) is death.
But apparently simpletons like you can't conceive of any other way to solve problems than killing. All your examples are people who fed on the mindless and violent characteristics of our culture - and the extinct animals you mention didn't "forget" anything, they were just victims of mindless barbarianism and extermination.
You make no sense so I find it quite boring and pointless to respond to you. Your stance has no merit... you are just mindlessly advocating violence it seems.
The same liberal bitches who complain that terrorists in Gitmo aren't getting their rights excercised are the ones pulling the nationality card in this case..
Actually the sentence probably would have remained the same. Now had Medellin ran to Mexico after the crime Mexico would not extradite him because they have no Death Penalty
If you get a speeding ticket and the cop gets the date wrong you might get off without having to pay a fine.
This was part of a violent rape and murder of two children. Now if that is the case and TEXAS acted wrong. Then are you suggesting that he should be set free?
The spirt of the treaty was that if a citizen from another nation is accused of a crime they should have access to their embassy.
I remembr this case being that I am from Houston. Those guys were on TV when this happened. Their families where on TV. I can remember one of the famlies getting into a fight at the court house with family of the victims.
This is a loophole they were trying to use a legal trick to get the guy off.
The topic here I do belive is treaties and if the execution of a murdering pedephile is a reason for any nation to violate a treaty with the USA. Then the treaty isn't really worth the paper it is written on
the guy had 4 years upon his arrest to ask for the mexican consulate,and he didn't. Either way, he committed a crime in Texas, and he should be punished in Texas. If it was any other country, there wouldn't be any discussions or protests. TEXAS law did the right thing.
Yo pienso que fue justo ya que se encontro culpable de un delito muy fuerte y pienso que no hay peor castigo que estar encerrado 15 años y saber que terminando esos 15 años te van a ejecutar, el unico pero que pongo es que aveces pueden equivocarse y ejecutar a alguin que no lo merecia, es un tema muy polemico y yo se que nadie tiene el derecho de quitarle la vida a un ser humano pero eso diganselo a los padres de la victima que fue violada y asesinada
There were 5 convicted, two have been executed, one is pending, and the other two were 16 and 17 (one was sentenced to 40 years and the other was sentenced to life)
...and that's why I love Texas, they have the balls to kill those fucking cowardly murderers, something they don't have in many other places...including Mexico. Here you can kill, rape, deal drugs, kidnap anybody and they just give you some years in jail and that's it. Congratulations to the justice department of Texas for the execution of one more bag of shit, keep up the good work!
Oh, and by the way, I'm Mexican, so you can quit making those stupid "racism" accusations.
It's a no brainer.. know your rights and insist on them. He didn't and when he finally did, it was after the period of time allowed by Texas law - he didn't tell them he was a foreign national. Any US citizen going abroad and murdering like Medellin did should be executed as well. So? Justice served. Done.
this is not good for us united states citizens when travelling around the world. wonder why they hate us so much?? not a clue?? well they should have take the ruling from the world court and not kill him as scheduled, they should have done another trial make them happy and kill him anyway. we as the most powerful nation should demonstrate respect for those international laws we agreed as every other nation. anyhow R.I.P. Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena poor girls sorry for the run on sentence
Awe, I wanted him to keep getting raped in prison for a while before god had him...I just heard they executed this peace of shit that Mexico wanted so bad....
pasando a través del puente del ferrocarril en el área del parque Jester en Houston, Texas, y allí se encontraron con Medellín y otros cinco miembros más de una pandilla que bebían y festejaban su "iniciación", y que salvajemente las violaron y obligaron a otros actos sexuales antes de golpearlas y luego estrangularlas primero con un cinto, luego con las cintillas de sus propios zapatos.
él tuvo 15 años para defenderse y para despedirse de su familia, la cual uno se pregunta dónde estaba cuando este criminal crecía y se formaba hasta convertirse en pandillero y, la noche del delito, en un verdadero monstruo.
Porque esté o no uno de acuerdo con la pena de muerte, nadie puede negar que su delito fue, por decir lo menos, atroz. El 24 de junio de 1993, Elizabeth Peña, de 16 años de edad, y Jennifer Ertman, de 14, decidieron tomar un atajo a la casa de una de ellas,
Quizás por eso equivocadamente nos sentimos obligados a ver en Medellín una víctima a quien no se le hizo justicia. Y lo que es peor, queremos creer que su ejecución fue por motivos raciales o de su condición social.
Pero José Medellín fue un asesino convicto y confeso. No se le castigó por ser mexicano ni por ser pobre. Se le sentenció de acuerdo a las leyes de Texas, donde cometió su brutal crimen, y, a diferencia de las dos jovencitas a las que violó y estranguló,
Si claro tiene razon desgraciadamente el ser Mexicano tambien trajo el odio de los Americanos hacia Medellin. Si ya se fijo ay muchos commentarios de odio aqui en fin el hombre muerto esta ahora que Dios se apiade de su alma ojala y aiga aceptado la salvacion de nuestro Señor Jesurcristo.
No, Medellin's execution was not race related at all!! If anyone is racist, it sounds like you are. Either that or just misinformed of the facts. And second, he is not the victim! The two girls are the victims. Your wrong! Texas did the right thing!
Todo parece indicar que para cuando esto se publique José Medellín habrá muerto. Ojalá que descanse en paz y realmente haya pasado a mejor vida, porque la que tuvo en este mundo fue terrible, como terrible fue su crimen y terrible también la ejecución llevada a cabo por el estado de Texas, la quinta en lo que va del año y la primera de dos esta semana.
En México no existe la pena de muerte y la mayoría de los mexicanos lo vemos como un acto brutal y de incivilización.
Why you have to bring your racist comments, don't white Americans commit horrible crime too? I am not Mexican but I can't believed there are so much ignorant people like you in this world.
See how ignorant you are anyways your words mean nothing to me because I feel so sorry for you? Poor you a person with so much hate in their heart God bless you honey.
And not only English I speak 2 more languages yes my spelling might not be the best, but I know I am a very happy and blessed women something that a grumpy person like you does not know about.
por que no tienen justicia en mexico, es por eso se vienen para los estados unidos, asen desmarde aque y pensan que nada les va a pasar. Aquie en los Estados Unidos, se hacen las cosas bien. Este no es Mexico. Translation: Mexico has no justice system, and that's why they come here and think they can get away with doing whatever they want here, and think they can get away with it. We do things right in the United States. This isn't mexico.
medellin is dead!!! The crazy thing is that medellin's family protested his execution and said that "only god can take a life". medellin took 2 lives- was he the exception?
I feel for the family of this two young girls their are the ones suffering right now. However all these people here leaving hateful comments I don't know how they talk about God and have so much hate in their hearts.
molonca, you see what this man did (jose) to these two girls was horrific! Devils work one might say...I have hate for devil and people who posses his evil ways..so, I don't believe this guy should go to heaven no matter how sorry he is..I dont HATE him...but I do think he deserves to DIE!! enough said..
Yes Mr. Whattha187 I understand but killing him would not bring this poor girls back to life. I am more of keeping someone in prison for ever like they use to do in my native country keeping someone in a prison cell for ever. But I respect your opinion but as I am writing this Jose Medellin is no longer on this world.
You're right killing him won't bring them back to life. Niether would keeping him prison his whole life either.but, that's not my point. He, himself, does not deserve to live or get enjoy this great earth since thats what he did to those girls. And seriously there really shouldn't be an arguement here at all..Thanks
Jose Medellin will be executed tonight and be in HELL tonight. This scum raped and tortured two innocent girls. TO HELL WITH WORLD PANSY ASS COURTS and SCREW THE UN.
Uh oh, I almost completely agree with you! Crap! These dregs should be brougt to justice in Texas without a doubt. Though I believe penalty by death never is the answer, nor would it bring theses two people back to life. God gives and takes away; what he decides for these criminals pray isn't pleasant. Its pretty obsurd.
I'm still amazed that the state of Texas would still have PB after that horrible impression of a Texan accent...God that was bad, pahtnuh! Just kidding PB
I am American and that has absolutely nothing to do with that fact that this rapist murdered these two girls and deserves to die for it. They raped every opening in those girls bodies. Then tried to strangle them with their belts, they pulled so hard on the belt to choke the girls that the belt snapped. So then they stomped on the girls throats to complete the kill. Then you ask if I am Hispanic? Would the answer to that question bring these murdered rapped girls back to life?
You are American but you can not change your face and characteristics your fetures look Hispanic you can't hide that sorry, I see it all over your face.
OH no Mr. I did not insulted you maybe if you lose that hat you would look better. Yes some Mexicans are handsome but I am more attracted to Europeans and Middle Easterns.
I am a Mexican citizen and i Feel ashame that my stupid goverment is pleading for the life of that depraved demon called Jose Medellin, I think justice for murderers and rapist should be death without mercy. How can society be mercifull with those inferiors beings when they didn't have any mercy for their victims???."An eye for an eye says the bible", Mexican justice is designed for criminals and that why its defending him, NO MERCY FOR CRIMINAL. FOR MURDERS THERE IS ONLY DEATH DEATH AND DEATH
I am surprised that the US has been dragged before the Hague! Lots of powers are being centralised in Europe and the vast majority of Europeans are not happy with it. 'I' think it would be best if Texas told the Hague to 'get lost'.
thnx for the vid keep up the good work and dont listen to these liberals the only reason thyer want u to stop is becuase your speakin the truth and they dont like you diggin up there bull shit
Yes, the desire not to degrade myself to the same level as a moronic barbarian like PP is bull shit... you're an idiot.
I'd like to pack the two of you off to Singapore with a baggy of pot in your suitcase and laugh when they execute you... but that would be degrading myself.
It's about the failure of our society and rule of law, and how most people won't stand up for what's right even when they know in their hearts what the right thing to do is.
It's not about murdering criminals and it's not about capital punishment. And it certainly isn't justification for your moronic arguments.
And still you come from the standpoint that capital punishment is a good thing. Killing criminals doesn't punish them, it degrades us. Murder is never acceptable, how then is it acceptable to grant the right to murder to the government? Insanity...
And I hate that you used a clip from one of the greatest films ever made, High Noon. Have you even watched that movie, do you understand it?
God your a moron - even your insults don't make sense.
Such a brilliant solution you have, forcing people who disagree with capital punishment to house the criminals.
While we're at it why don't we make you house, feed and slaughter every animal you eat, and how about we allow all the people around the world who you exploit come to your house and seek their compensation?
That seems fair by your statement. I would gladly house a murderer if you did that.
I'm sorry, I forgot stupid and ignorant you are and that you'd be unable to differentiate between a noun and an exclamation.
I did have some typos, it should have read:
"God, you're a moron!"
or
"God! You're a moron!"
Meaning you, not "God" - though if there is a God, which I doubt, you are living proof that he (or she) is a moron. Only a moron would create the likes of you.
Your failed attempt to be witty here only serves to make you look more foolish.
This is quite inconsistent of the Bush government seeing that he just signed the death papers in the case of Ronald A. Gray, an ex military officer convicted in for four murders and eight rapes in the Fayetteville N.C area.
This has to do with a Federal Case, not a State case, 2 different things, the Federal Govt has no say in state criminal prosecutions unless a Federal crime was commited. Which is why the scotus and Bush have no say in this matter.
In this particular case. Being that the scum bags in question were here illegally and on top of that lived in the US for many years, I think that they should not be eligible for the COURTESY that the treaty in question extends to those of us who respect laws. Governor Rick Perry would be my hero if he circumvents a possible perversion of justice by our wretched liberal Congress. I can't believe Mexico has the nerve to choose this particular case to establish the practice of the COURTESY.
The USA is the greatest nation on the face of the Earth and it will remain so if we adhere to the principles of the founding fathers. Gov.Perry has every right under the constitution of Texas to have those men answer for their crimes,and TX doesn't answer to the world court,or anybody, but to herself,and to the constitution to which she was founded, she however does have an obligation to keep and defend the Union.
Hey if the Texans get fed up they could break away and form their own Govt, its in their constitution. Now why dont we respect the rights of states? Just a question to ponder..
I'm Iowan-born. Iowa was a Union state in the Civil War. But I think I'll place my loyalties to Texas, come to that. This state preserves the American spirit the most out of the all the others. BUT DAMN, IT'S HOT HERE! I miss a good, brisk winter sometimes!
What could motivate a nation to surrender it's sovereignty to foreign and international governments? I mean, if one's leaders were at least obsessed with power, then they'd somewhat still be interested in protecting their land. But surrendering one's sovereignty doesn't make sense to me in terms of practicality.
If the good state of Texas will provide me with gas money, I will gladly come down there to solve the problem: I will humanely administer 230 grains of Cu/Pb, at 850 fps. While the hand-wringers are still hassling the governor, I can end the question of whether a despicable murderer/rapist can be used as a tool by Nancy politicians and anti-American european court hacks.
They can take their Hague rulings and jam 'em where the sun don't shine, right next to their pointy little heads.
I live in Texas, just so you foreigners know. I'm a libertarian. I own more guns than you can count to, ok. If one of you moves or travels here and tries to harm someone in my family, I will pump so many bullets into you, that the police will have trouble finding your bits and pieces in the huge pile of lead. This also applies to you californian pieces of shit. Balance your budget idiots, stop trying to steal money from other states.
kronosgyros 2 years ago
I'm born American. 52 years old. I know right from wrong. Here's a fact. The death penalty does NOT stop murders.
Now, you're either sane and have logic. Or insane. And have no logic.
Logic understands and "EYE FOR AND EYE" is a lie.
Which one are you?
HeymanUSS 3 years ago
Who said the death penalty was to stop murders?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
A crime is a crime.
Inkoseh 3 years ago
Of course they never call it by its real name ( in support of the child killer) they aren't totally insane. That would never fly in the eyes of the public.
NO NO NO. they call it immoral. etc etc
But remember they claim that morality is impossible, they claim that their are no absoultes, they claim that their is no right and wrong.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
That is the whole problem with people who don't see the world in absoults. They verw reality as a constant flux everything is in motion.
Noting is truily right nothing is totally wrong just gray area.
Of course when a person disagrees with them then suddenly they don't argue that they are right. (That being an absoulte) But that the other person is wrong. That being right is impossible. Since their is no right and wrong.
Hence they come out against the GOV for exectuing a child murderer
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Is that in your mind equal to fucking and stragleing 2 little girls????
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
To settle up the score as you put it. Would mean that he would be raped beaten and strangled then left for animals and insects to consume.
IS that what the GOV did
The punisiment for murder is death. (NOTE THEY ARE 2 DIFFERNT WORDS)
IF murder is Life in prison (until a lawyer can get him out)
A teen is caught selling crack 5 years later he is busted selling crack again
Later on a freind steals a car he gets in it gets busted.
That is 3 strikes life in prison.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
I find it amazing that you hold such silly notions. To think that you are advocating a belief that would cuase further harm and damage to innocent people in vain efforst of trying to gain some sense of moraitly.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
What are you trying to prove? Are you just some punk-adolescent so unhappy with your life all you do is sit at your computer and come up with ways to insult people?
Because I don't know some quote that makes me unread? What does it being a quote even matter?
You call me a bible thumper and then post a direct quote from the bible? What hypocritical nonsense.
A conflict between India and Muslims? How can a country and a religion conflict with each other? Do you mean Hindu and Muslim?
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
I am tyring to disprove you silly stance. And I haven't really insulted anyone "YET".
Besides your the one that brought in the bible I mearly made you read it.
And no I mean the on going conflict between Muslims and India.
sort of like
8/1/08 India Reasi where a boy is abducted by Mujahid, who then slit his throat.
or
7/26/08 India in Ahmedabad where Islamic bombers set off seventeen bombs killing over fifty innocent people.
That violance.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
I didn't "brought in the bible" as you so eloquently put it, I mentioned Jesus Christ. He is also a reference in the Jewish and Muslim religions.
And you've done nothing to even begin showing my stance as "silly." You might try actually thinking about what I write instead of immediately looking for holes and ways to shoot it down.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
andonodrim
Didn't you post the terms STUPID MORON and so fourth?
Now if you dont buy into the bible why do you bother to quote from a set of beliefs that you dont belive.
As to the notion that not punishing a murderer for his crime is hardly a epitome of epic proportions.
The Justice system works in such a manner. That when person is wronged it is the moral responsibility of the GOV to equal the scale.
How do you equal a scale when a child is fucked and then strangled?
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Where did I quote the Bible? You aren't making any sense. Where did I suggest not punishing a murderer?
Governments have no moral responsibility, individuals do - the government has a legal responsibility to uphold law, which sometimes makes them immoral (when upholding bad laws).
Justice isn't about trying to even up the score, that's revenge. Justice is about trying to right what's been wronged, and that's not as easy to figure out.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
You asked what about JESUS and Ghandi. In the hope that people would think of the misinterpreted teachings of Jesus. When the bible clearly defines several reasons that a person should be executed.
How is kidding napping a person and holding him not revenge??? Just cause you call it a jail sentence doesn't make it something that it isn't
What you are tying to do is redefine words to better suit you argument.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
You continue to spout nothing but incoherent nonsense.
I referenced Jesus, not the bible. They are not inseparable.
Arresting someone is not the same as kidnapping them, trying to equate the two is ridiculous.
I don't have enough time to waste it on you, so consider this my last reply. Perhaps if you'd been able to present any sort of argument or logical and level-headed discussion I'd feel differently, but as-is you just aren't worth my time.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
Exectuing a criminal is not the same as murder.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
I'm tired of you putting words in my mouth and making no attempt to understand what I say.
As I said before, I'm done talking with you.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
Good I have no intrest in trying to convince you of anything. My motive is to expose your silly stance for what it is.
SILLY!
What people like you do is chat amoung yourselves in a like minded crowd. Hence you fudge the meaning of a word here and there.
Suddenly when you are out with people who hold differnt views you become confused.
And even worse when I apply the same technique to your argument you become angry.
You can't really help it you mind has been hobbled
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Silly... your ridicilous.
I don't fudge words, you do - constantly. And I rarely engage in chat amongst like minded crowds. I'm also not confused because you are somehow enlightening, you just can't put together a logical thought or statement so you don't make any sense. Anyone would find that confusing.
And I'm not angry, I just find it pointless to keep talking since you never say anything logical.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
Since you have already lied when only an hour ago you posted
I'm done talking with you
That now you claim to rarely engage in chat amongst like minded crowds is any better.
You confusing comes from you lack of
1 Morality
2 Well defined Ethics
3 Inability to grasp Absolutes
4 Your constant redefining of terms
4
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
By saying I was done I was hoping to close the discussion, but you just keep going.
Thank you for realizing that I do not believe in Absolutes. My favorite mantra is "There are no Absolutes." I'm sure you'll have fun with that one.
You can't even speak/write English properly and all you keep doing is throwing accusations at me, so this is my last post replying to you.
Goodbye.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
There are no Absoults!!!
Claiming that their are no absoultes is an Absoulte.
And did I hit the nail on the head with you or what??
Know you can't even be trusted to say what you mean.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Pando
Don't come up with this ridicules notion that all violance is equal. It isn't
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
What was really weird about this was that Bush actually sided against his home state and tried to use executive power to uphold the world court treaty. Not something I'd expect from George but oh well. Glad this guy got what he deserved.
Drexel2008 3 years ago
thats one reason he's a failure
acres90 3 years ago
denm they r sou stuped,,,hahah texas they dont know how 2 punich,,,the criminals
payasito55 3 years ago
Great News another murdering scum has been exectued in TX!!
We are actually on the right track for a change
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
What is really sad is everyone knows Texas has the highest execution record in the USA. Also that most Texans are armed, willing to use those weapons, and it is legal to do so to protect family, home, and property. Yet people still commit capitol crimes in Texas. Talk about bottom feeders who can not read the handwriting on the wall.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Proof that violence and capital punishment are not efficient deterrents - and that violence only breeds more violence.
Your (and others) innability to understand this concept is not surprising, but is also something that must be challenged.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pando
Anyone who clings to the historically untrue and thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence never solves anything I'ld advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon and Duke of Wellington let them debate it
Hitlers ghost could refere the jury might be the Dodo, Great Auk, n Passenger Pigeon. Violence naked force has settled more issues in history than has any other factor the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this paid for it with their lives n freedoms
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Where did I say it never solves anything? I said it only breeds more violence. The only peace at the end of violence (or war) is death.
But apparently simpletons like you can't conceive of any other way to solve problems than killing. All your examples are people who fed on the mindless and violent characteristics of our culture - and the extinct animals you mention didn't "forget" anything, they were just victims of mindless barbarianism and extermination.
What about Gandhi? Christ?
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonodrim
Actually that was a quote from a book. Guess reading isn't one of your strong points.
As for Christ what are yo some sort of bible thumper???
Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.... Lev. 24:17-22
As for Ghandi didn't his actions result in an ongoing conflict between India and muslims?
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
You make no sense so I find it quite boring and pointless to respond to you. Your stance has no merit... you are just mindlessly advocating violence it seems.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
" Are they twins?"
Hhahahahahahhahahaa....hilarious.
BUBearL 3 years ago
Thanks. But they do look like twins.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
It's funny...
The same liberal bitches who complain that terrorists in Gitmo aren't getting their rights excercised are the ones pulling the nationality card in this case..
Oh well, the bastards dead!! Yeehaaaah!
BUBearL 3 years ago
WarriorYor
The verdict was not in doubt here. That was not argued.
His guilt wasn't argued.
The facts of the crime were not argued.
ONLY THE DEATH PENALTY WAS ARGUED.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Well, medellin thought he was tough enough to murder in cold blood.....so thankfully, he can die in cold blood.
Yeeehahhhhh!!!
BUBearL 3 years ago
WarriorYor
This is very simple. They were trying to avoid the death penalty by claiming some obscure legal point.
Of course since the death penalty is looked down upon in the world court they were more than happy to oblige.
BUT they didn't dare try to get him OFF, cause that would have made them look like a bunch of idiots who have gone soft on a child molester.
So you have the smoke screen. Since TX didn't call the embassy lets take the death penalty off the table.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Actually the sentence probably would have remained the same. Now had Medellin ran to Mexico after the crime Mexico would not extradite him because they have no Death Penalty
DaimajinStoneGod 3 years ago
WarriorYor
So then he should be left free??? That is what they are asking for.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
To begin with do you know how curropt that Mexican consulate is here in Houston??
My wife is from Mexico and when she went over there to fill out some forms they told her she had to use black ink.
When she asked for a pen the "SOLD" her one for $1 not the pens you find at a local store but the cheap crappy ones they get from Mexico.
The whole MEXICO GOV has devolved into nothing more than a scam to suck money out of the USA
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
Like I said it was a technicality nothing more.
A legal trick that lawyers use.
If you get a speeding ticket and the cop gets the date wrong you might get off without having to pay a fine.
This was part of a violent rape and murder of two children. Now if that is the case and TEXAS acted wrong. Then are you suggesting that he should be set free?
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
Well lets see.
What differnce would it have made?
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
To what end?
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
This legal trick was no differnt that him saying he didn't understand his rights.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
I am telling you that this guy didn't give it a second thought. Neither did his family or lawyer.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
This isn't like the movie Midnight Run were the guy was caught running drugs and they didn' tell the embassy about it.
Or some woman whose students named a teddy bear after some prophet.
This guy lived in the USA most of life and didn't feel like he was a Mexican. Hence it never dawned on him that he could call the embassy.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
The spirt of the treaty was that if a citizen from another nation is accused of a crime they should have access to their embassy.
I remembr this case being that I am from Houston. Those guys were on TV when this happened. Their families where on TV. I can remember one of the famlies getting into a fight at the court house with family of the victims.
This is a loophole they were trying to use a legal trick to get the guy off.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
The topic here I do belive is treaties and if the execution of a murdering pedephile is a reason for any nation to violate a treaty with the USA. Then the treaty isn't really worth the paper it is written on
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
If a nation uses this as an excuse to violate a treaty with the US, then the treaty itself isn't worth the paper it is written on.
I for one would not be upset if an American pediphile is executed in any nation.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
That is an invasion of our soil.
I will point to the NATO treaty Article 5
An attack on one is an attack on all.
I don't see NATO responding to any attacks against the USA not from any nation.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
Our treaties don't have any authority with foreign nations.
Mexican military violates US soil all the time. Just the other day they held a border agent at gun point.
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
WarriorYor
We don't have 2 sets of laws in the US all are treated equally.
What would contacting the Mexican Embassy have done?? How would that make this any differnet?
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
the guy had 4 years upon his arrest to ask for the mexican consulate,and he didn't. Either way, he committed a crime in Texas, and he should be punished in Texas. If it was any other country, there wouldn't be any discussions or protests. TEXAS law did the right thing.
Ajntb2Sli 3 years ago
Remember the victim's names: Elizabeth Pena and Jennifer Ertman.
jnichols3 3 years ago
Yo pienso que fue justo ya que se encontro culpable de un delito muy fuerte y pienso que no hay peor castigo que estar encerrado 15 años y saber que terminando esos 15 años te van a ejecutar, el unico pero que pongo es que aveces pueden equivocarse y ejecutar a alguin que no lo merecia, es un tema muy polemico y yo se que nadie tiene el derecho de quitarle la vida a un ser humano pero eso diganselo a los padres de la victima que fue violada y asesinada
rixxxer 3 years ago
There were 5 convicted, two have been executed, one is pending, and the other two were 16 and 17 (one was sentenced to 40 years and the other was sentenced to life)
DaimajinStoneGod 3 years ago
...and that's why I love Texas, they have the balls to kill those fucking cowardly murderers, something they don't have in many other places...including Mexico. Here you can kill, rape, deal drugs, kidnap anybody and they just give you some years in jail and that's it. Congratulations to the justice department of Texas for the execution of one more bag of shit, keep up the good work!
Oh, and by the way, I'm Mexican, so you can quit making those stupid "racism" accusations.
JJedgar 3 years ago
Adios jose!
Say hi to the lady of guadalupe for me!
LOL!
mizko1 3 years ago
It's a no brainer.. know your rights and insist on them. He didn't and when he finally did, it was after the period of time allowed by Texas law - he didn't tell them he was a foreign national. Any US citizen going abroad and murdering like Medellin did should be executed as well. So? Justice served. Done.
brothermoon 3 years ago
WETBACK go home
max6669 3 years ago
this is not good for us united states citizens when travelling around the world. wonder why they hate us so much?? not a clue?? well they should have take the ruling from the world court and not kill him as scheduled, they should have done another trial make them happy and kill him anyway. we as the most powerful nation should demonstrate respect for those international laws we agreed as every other nation. anyhow R.I.P. Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena poor girls sorry for the run on sentence
luiscali2007 3 years ago
Screw that. If someone comes into OUR country rapes and murders one of OUR citizens, they should face OUR penalties.
pouyo3 3 years ago 2
I agree. He was a scum bag criminal fuck who deserved what he got and more.
Peace.
civwarfan 3 years ago
español español ñññññññññññññ hijos d ela verga
tedb79 3 years ago
Por favor hable Inglés Inglés, cuando estoy en mexico hablo español, así que por favor pinche aquí hablar Inglés
zaaaaaaazaaaaaaaaaaz 3 years ago
Inglés uso de la palabra en mi país
zaaaaaaazaaaaaaaaaaz 3 years ago
Medellin IS A PROD MEXICAN NATIONAL I AM SURE. LIKE HELL NOW SHIT HEAD??
zaaaaaaazaaaaaaaaaaz 3 years ago 2
Awe, I wanted him to keep getting raped in prison for a while before god had him...I just heard they executed this peace of shit that Mexico wanted so bad....
gangbangersrgay 3 years ago
pasando a través del puente del ferrocarril en el área del parque Jester en Houston, Texas, y allí se encontraron con Medellín y otros cinco miembros más de una pandilla que bebían y festejaban su "iniciación", y que salvajemente las violaron y obligaron a otros actos sexuales antes de golpearlas y luego estrangularlas primero con un cinto, luego con las cintillas de sus propios zapatos.
paulinomano 3 years ago
él tuvo 15 años para defenderse y para despedirse de su familia, la cual uno se pregunta dónde estaba cuando este criminal crecía y se formaba hasta convertirse en pandillero y, la noche del delito, en un verdadero monstruo.
Porque esté o no uno de acuerdo con la pena de muerte, nadie puede negar que su delito fue, por decir lo menos, atroz. El 24 de junio de 1993, Elizabeth Peña, de 16 años de edad, y Jennifer Ertman, de 14, decidieron tomar un atajo a la casa de una de ellas,
paulinomano 3 years ago
Quizás por eso equivocadamente nos sentimos obligados a ver en Medellín una víctima a quien no se le hizo justicia. Y lo que es peor, queremos creer que su ejecución fue por motivos raciales o de su condición social.
Pero José Medellín fue un asesino convicto y confeso. No se le castigó por ser mexicano ni por ser pobre. Se le sentenció de acuerdo a las leyes de Texas, donde cometió su brutal crimen, y, a diferencia de las dos jovencitas a las que violó y estranguló,
paulinomano 3 years ago
Si claro tiene razon desgraciadamente el ser Mexicano tambien trajo el odio de los Americanos hacia Medellin. Si ya se fijo ay muchos commentarios de odio aqui en fin el hombre muerto esta ahora que Dios se apiade de su alma ojala y aiga aceptado la salvacion de nuestro Señor Jesurcristo.
Molonca 3 years ago
No, Medellin's execution was not race related at all!! If anyone is racist, it sounds like you are. Either that or just misinformed of the facts. And second, he is not the victim! The two girls are the victims. Your wrong! Texas did the right thing!
Ajntb2Sli 3 years ago
Todo parece indicar que para cuando esto se publique José Medellín habrá muerto. Ojalá que descanse en paz y realmente haya pasado a mejor vida, porque la que tuvo en este mundo fue terrible, como terrible fue su crimen y terrible también la ejecución llevada a cabo por el estado de Texas, la quinta en lo que va del año y la primera de dos esta semana.
En México no existe la pena de muerte y la mayoría de los mexicanos lo vemos como un acto brutal y de incivilización.
paulinomano 3 years ago
I'm glad they killed his ass. He was nothing but a mexican scum bag rapist piece of shit killer who deserved to die.
Good job Texas and keep up the good work. maybe this will keep those dirty mexicans from crawling over here
Berlitz777 3 years ago
Why you have to bring your racist comments, don't white Americans commit horrible crime too? I am not Mexican but I can't believed there are so much ignorant people like you in this world.
Molonca 3 years ago
Because that's the way it is. If that mexican cock roach hadn't of been here, those girls would be alive today.
Get your naive head out of your ass. Just beause you have a pussy doesn't mean you have to act like one.
Pick a side and fight for it. Take a stand.
Berlitz777 3 years ago
See how ignorant you are anyways your words mean nothing to me because I feel so sorry for you? Poor you a person with so much hate in their heart God bless you honey.
Molonca 3 years ago
Before you call ANYONE ignorant learn to write and speak proper English lady.
Berlitz777 3 years ago
And not only English I speak 2 more languages yes my spelling might not be the best, but I know I am a very happy and blessed women something that a grumpy person like you does not know about.
Have a nice day.
Molonca 3 years ago
Ok I will bitch.
Berlitz777 3 years ago
Sorry I am not what you just call me.
God bless you.
Molonca 3 years ago
por que no tienen justicia en mexico, es por eso se vienen para los estados unidos, asen desmarde aque y pensan que nada les va a pasar. Aquie en los Estados Unidos, se hacen las cosas bien. Este no es Mexico. Translation: Mexico has no justice system, and that's why they come here and think they can get away with doing whatever they want here, and think they can get away with it. We do things right in the United States. This isn't mexico.
Ajntb2Sli 3 years ago
medellin is dead!!! The crazy thing is that medellin's family protested his execution and said that "only god can take a life". medellin took 2 lives- was he the exception?
philosopher1976 3 years ago
FUCK HIS MUTHAFUCKING FAMILY
zaaaaaaazaaaaaaaaaaz 3 years ago 2
well u look hispanic men.that's why.
paulinomano 3 years ago
Bush is a gutless bastard who would rather be a 'citizen of the world' than stand up for the victims. He should be ashamed.
mst3k4evur 3 years ago
Down with the world court and down with Bush for supporting it. Good job on the video.
ChicagoJoe57 3 years ago
ya mátenlo no merece vivir
tedb79 3 years ago
este es video de gringos nadien te entiende india
ELHEADHUNTER 3 years ago
tú sí me entendiste hurensohn. cuidado y no te salga por la calle un violador. auf wiedersehen.
tedb79 3 years ago
GOD BLESS TEXAS
kobie8819591 3 years ago
kill him kill him kill him kill him
kobie8819591 3 years ago
Is so funny but I am sure that if this guy was a white man you would not be expressing like this. Monkey? Excuse me but how old are you.
Molonca 3 years ago
I feel for the family of this two young girls their are the ones suffering right now. However all these people here leaving hateful comments I don't know how they talk about God and have so much hate in their hearts.
Molonca 3 years ago
molonca, you see what this man did (jose) to these two girls was horrific! Devils work one might say...I have hate for devil and people who posses his evil ways..so, I don't believe this guy should go to heaven no matter how sorry he is..I dont HATE him...but I do think he deserves to DIE!! enough said..
whattha187 3 years ago
Yes Mr. Whattha187 I understand but killing him would not bring this poor girls back to life. I am more of keeping someone in prison for ever like they use to do in my native country keeping someone in a prison cell for ever. But I respect your opinion but as I am writing this Jose Medellin is no longer on this world.
Molonca 3 years ago
You're right killing him won't bring them back to life. Niether would keeping him prison his whole life either.but, that's not my point. He, himself, does not deserve to live or get enjoy this great earth since thats what he did to those girls. And seriously there really shouldn't be an arguement here at all..Thanks
whattha187 3 years ago
Excuse me but I was not arguing with you I was just reponding to your comment.
Molonca 3 years ago
Jose Medellin will be executed tonight and be in HELL tonight. This scum raped and tortured two innocent girls. TO HELL WITH WORLD PANSY ASS COURTS and SCREW THE UN.
LiberalsAreWeak 3 years ago
Uh oh, I almost completely agree with you! Crap! These dregs should be brougt to justice in Texas without a doubt. Though I believe penalty by death never is the answer, nor would it bring theses two people back to life. God gives and takes away; what he decides for these criminals pray isn't pleasant. Its pretty obsurd.
I'm still amazed that the state of Texas would still have PB after that horrible impression of a Texan accent...God that was bad, pahtnuh! Just kidding PB
acbluestone 3 years ago
I am proof of how wonderful the people of Texas are as they have tolerated me for these past 29 years.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
are u hispanic? mr propaganda?
paulinomano 3 years ago
I am American and that has absolutely nothing to do with that fact that this rapist murdered these two girls and deserves to die for it. They raped every opening in those girls bodies. Then tried to strangle them with their belts, they pulled so hard on the belt to choke the girls that the belt snapped. So then they stomped on the girls throats to complete the kill. Then you ask if I am Hispanic? Would the answer to that question bring these murdered rapped girls back to life?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
You are American but you can not change your face and characteristics your fetures look Hispanic you can't hide that sorry, I see it all over your face.
Molonca 3 years ago
I need to tell my four grandparents that, who were all born and raised in Italy.
But thanks for the compliment.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Wow really? usually Italian guys are handsome so that means you speak Italian right? I love the Italian language can you speak some for me?LOL
Molonca 3 years ago
You just thought you insulted me, then you ask for a favor? Am I missing something here?
Do you not also think Mexicans are good looking?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
OH no Mr. I did not insulted you maybe if you lose that hat you would look better. Yes some Mexicans are handsome but I am more attracted to Europeans and Middle Easterns.
Molonca 3 years ago
The stars at night are big and bright deep in the heart of Texas. Let this pig fry. Que se fria este cerdo. Muera cabron, muera.
lalamorinello 3 years ago
I live in Texas and I want turds like him flushed regularly.
atcycle 3 years ago
i agree 1000% with the comment above, i feel ashamed too..piece of shit should dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
oicor2007 3 years ago
I am a Mexican citizen and i Feel ashame that my stupid goverment is pleading for the life of that depraved demon called Jose Medellin, I think justice for murderers and rapist should be death without mercy. How can society be mercifull with those inferiors beings when they didn't have any mercy for their victims???."An eye for an eye says the bible", Mexican justice is designed for criminals and that why its defending him, NO MERCY FOR CRIMINAL. FOR MURDERS THERE IS ONLY DEATH DEATH AND DEATH
icasas72 3 years ago
Barbero.
Molonca 3 years ago
Goodbye Medellin may you burn in hell
evansville70 3 years ago
an eye for an eye, Medellin must die!!!
cachacos 3 years ago
I am surprised that the US has been dragged before the Hague! Lots of powers are being centralised in Europe and the vast majority of Europeans are not happy with it. 'I' think it would be best if Texas told the Hague to 'get lost'.
Kester71 3 years ago
Thats pretty interesting, thanks for keeping us updated on the story and I look forward to your next report on it.
Nozokimidayo 3 years ago
thnx for the vid keep up the good work and dont listen to these liberals the only reason thyer want u to stop is becuase your speakin the truth and they dont like you diggin up there bull shit
zhman93 3 years ago
Yes, the desire not to degrade myself to the same level as a moronic barbarian like PP is bull shit... you're an idiot.
I'd like to pack the two of you off to Singapore with a baggy of pot in your suitcase and laugh when they execute you... but that would be degrading myself.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonadrim: Hey, that train already left the station as you already degraded yourself.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
It's about the failure of our society and rule of law, and how most people won't stand up for what's right even when they know in their hearts what the right thing to do is.
It's not about murdering criminals and it's not about capital punishment. And it certainly isn't justification for your moronic arguments.
Stop making videos, please.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonodrim, what would you do with Medillen and the others? What would be your solution for his crime?
Ajntb2Sli 3 years ago
Again, your arguements are totally pointless.
And still you come from the standpoint that capital punishment is a good thing. Killing criminals doesn't punish them, it degrades us. Murder is never acceptable, how then is it acceptable to grant the right to murder to the government? Insanity...
And I hate that you used a clip from one of the greatest films ever made, High Noon. Have you even watched that movie, do you understand it?
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Pandonadrim: How about instead of executing these convicted murderers we house them in your home with you and your family?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
God your a moron - even your insults don't make sense.
Such a brilliant solution you have, forcing people who disagree with capital punishment to house the criminals.
While we're at it why don't we make you house, feed and slaughter every animal you eat, and how about we allow all the people around the world who you exploit come to your house and seek their compensation?
That seems fair by your statement. I would gladly house a murderer if you did that.
You probably don't even comprehend...
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
Why did you call God a moron?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
I'm sorry, I forgot stupid and ignorant you are and that you'd be unable to differentiate between a noun and an exclamation.
I did have some typos, it should have read:
"God, you're a moron!"
or
"God! You're a moron!"
Meaning you, not "God" - though if there is a God, which I doubt, you are living proof that he (or she) is a moron. Only a moron would create the likes of you.
Your failed attempt to be witty here only serves to make you look more foolish.
Just like everything else you do.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
oops, another typo - should have said "I forgot HOW stupid and ignorant you are..."
Sorry to those intelligent readers out there for the editing mistake.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
"Forgive them not, for they know not what they're doing." Your attempt to upset or insult me has failed as I only have pity and sorrow for you.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
I'm not sure what you mean, but save your pity for yourself.
The "sorrow" and "pity" from a demented, warped and brainwashed mind like yours is nothing I need.
As I said once before, go burn in your imaginary hell, and leave earth to those of us who actually care about it.
Pandonodrim 3 years ago
He would not understand because he is and ignorant.
Molonca 3 years ago
who IS this idiot?
michael19403 3 years ago
Thanks for the update! It will be interesting to see what happens the next few days.
tlewis7777 3 years ago 2
Good vid!
I'm a proud Texan, born in in the Shining City by the Sea.
auhin 3 years ago 2
This is quite inconsistent of the Bush government seeing that he just signed the death papers in the case of Ronald A. Gray, an ex military officer convicted in for four murders and eight rapes in the Fayetteville N.C area.
canucktunes 3 years ago
This has to do with a Federal Case, not a State case, 2 different things, the Federal Govt has no say in state criminal prosecutions unless a Federal crime was commited. Which is why the scotus and Bush have no say in this matter.
ravenloft214 3 years ago
scotus = Supreme Court of the United States
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
In this particular case. Being that the scum bags in question were here illegally and on top of that lived in the US for many years, I think that they should not be eligible for the COURTESY that the treaty in question extends to those of us who respect laws. Governor Rick Perry would be my hero if he circumvents a possible perversion of justice by our wretched liberal Congress. I can't believe Mexico has the nerve to choose this particular case to establish the practice of the COURTESY.
numba1stunna4269 3 years ago 2
The USA is the greatest nation on the face of the Earth and it will remain so if we adhere to the principles of the founding fathers. Gov.Perry has every right under the constitution of Texas to have those men answer for their crimes,and TX doesn't answer to the world court,or anybody, but to herself,and to the constitution to which she was founded, she however does have an obligation to keep and defend the Union.
sakiusad 3 years ago 2
Hey if the Texans get fed up they could break away and form their own Govt, its in their constitution. Now why dont we respect the rights of states? Just a question to ponder..
Peace out all
sakiusad 3 years ago 2
I'm Iowan-born. Iowa was a Union state in the Civil War. But I think I'll place my loyalties to Texas, come to that. This state preserves the American spirit the most out of the all the others. BUT DAMN, IT'S HOT HERE! I miss a good, brisk winter sometimes!
QuartuvLarry 3 years ago 3
Five Stars!
MadBadVoodo 3 years ago
way to go Gov. Perry
dingorex 3 years ago
Wow. Can we send our Californian prisoners to Texas? Our prisons are overcrowded.
Nonojr2 3 years ago 4
thats because california is full of hot heads and they dont use their death peanilty and they pass laws that protect criminals :)
tx55drexray 3 years ago 4
Hurry up and zap the animal. Then send him to a Mexican Government official.
DrBenDoverHere 3 years ago 2
What could motivate a nation to surrender it's sovereignty to foreign and international governments? I mean, if one's leaders were at least obsessed with power, then they'd somewhat still be interested in protecting their land. But surrendering one's sovereignty doesn't make sense to me in terms of practicality.
JRK4Christ 3 years ago 2
If the good state of Texas will provide me with gas money, I will gladly come down there to solve the problem: I will humanely administer 230 grains of Cu/Pb, at 850 fps. While the hand-wringers are still hassling the governor, I can end the question of whether a despicable murderer/rapist can be used as a tool by Nancy politicians and anti-American european court hacks.
They can take their Hague rulings and jam 'em where the sun don't shine, right next to their pointy little heads.
MasterSgtSlappy 3 years ago 2