The only hater around here is Mayweather. He's nothing but an evil little racist scumbag. Anyone who would look up to Mayweather has to be a filthy racist themselves. It's a shame this hate filled little devil is in a position where he can influence small children and teenagers. Just a horrible role model and a completely worthless creature. Hopefully he will die of a brain aneurism soon and the world will be rid of his vile hatefulness. People like him belong in the 1930s.
I could beat Floyd's ass...but then again I weigh about 100 pounds more than he does, I have 6 inches on him and at least 10" of reach on him. Plus I don't mean in the ring, I just mean in general.
Fraud says Manny need 24day cut off bloodtest. Manny said OK. then Fraud says Manny needs 14days cut off. Manny said OK. then Fraud says Manny needs 0day cut off. Manny said OK. after beating Oritz fraud says, I dont need Manny anymore. LOL flomos still buying his crapps. unbelievable.
when did pac ducked mosley? lmao what happened to mosley when he fought floyd? did he he knocked him down like pac did? come on! your'e a floyd fan not a boxing fan... all you see here is floyd floyd floyd
@zergqual When Mosley KO'd the guy everyobody feared, (Margarito) he then wanted to fight Pac, Roach said he would only fight if he could drain him like he did Oscar...but more. Mosley said why not at 147 and Roach told him because you are better than Oscar. (I saw him say it with his own mouth (Roach)
Then Mosley gets fcuked up by Mayweather then has a poorer showing against S. Mora so I guess it was then safe for Pac to fight him. THE GUY HAS NOT BEAT ONE GUY COMING OFF OF A GOOD WIN !!!
@flash441 I agree....and not even just that...most of the time...the opponent is at just as much fault but just because floyd is who he is they would rather put the weight on floyds shoulders....like manny had mad reasons that the fight didnt happen...the one and only thing floyd said was a drug test...manny talking about his promoters aint gonna do it and then he scared of needles ECT. floyd had one condition...take a random drug test....
Floyd fought Judha (after loosing to Carlos B.) then fought Carlos B. cuz he had no choice, he would of had to fight Margarito or Cotto...no way he would of done that. Give him props for Hatton but who else was out there at 147 not 140? yeap Berto vs Mosley and a fight broke up, Floyd once again was up agaisnt the wall to fight Mosley...no way he's gonna fight Pacman! 2 bad.
Floyd is right he will not be beaten, because he is the biggest fight ducking coward in boxing history! Floyd's legacy is a shit stain on the footnotes of boxing history!!
Fuck pacquiao Mayweathers the best, same thing would have happenned when people said Oh Floyd's ducking Miguel COtto, fuck Miguel Cotto he is anAN embarrassment for PUERTO RICO, WHO SOLD HIS FIGHT WITH BITCH PACQUIAO . Fuck you pacquiao, fuck you miguel cotto and fyuck you ricky hatton I would fight any of you any time any place so bring it up
Mayweather is a punk he is scared of Manny Pacquiao running like a little bitch ... ricky hatton is shit, everyone knows that he couldnt stand up to mayweather ... but manny is a different league. The Best.
@Venus1Star yea i was about to say are there only people watching this video the ones who JUST started watching boxing??? honeslty half these people dont even know what they are talking about.....Manny wouldnt even fight for all that money that was on the table over a simple random drug test that floyd himself said he would even take...this isnt rocket science its clear whos ducking who...and it aint even manny its his camp instructing him to do this so he SEEMS to be the best
@Communist2012 a different league??? how u in a different league struggling with marquez, cotto getting hit 229 times by margarito, looking so flawed aginst shane mosley..lol u guys only sit bak and see the punches manny is landing u dont see the openings, u dont see the defensive flaws that would be his downfall aginst a fighter who excels at finding the openings
YES!Oscar at the end of his career weight drained to 147 lol, then hatton who got koed by PBF and was never the same, then Cotto who just got bashed by Margarcheto with bricks and looked like he lost to clottey and Cotto was drained to 145 another catchweight. then Joshua Clottey who was basically a 12 round punching bag and i will never watch a fight from him again. Then pac fight Margacheto who just took 1 year off looked horrible on his first fight back and got koed by Mosley.
@telofajoe exactly he even fought clottley when clottey was coming off a loss. erik morales when morales washed up and coming off a brutal loss zahir raheem
@baller2011able then afta margarito he versus mosley who just got beat by may and (Mora IMO) and had to go down to 147 again when he was like 155versing mora.
haha! really huh?! can u give us proof that oscar demanded random blood testing from floyd for their fight last 07? i cant seem to remember that they both undergo random blood testing for their fight haha and im sure everybody else hasnt heard what you're claiming..FLOYD AND JMM AGREED TO A CATCHWEIGHT FOR THEIR FIGHT @144lbs.AT WEIGH IN DAY, FLOYD WEIGHED IN 2lbs OVER 144lbs, SO HE HAD TO PAY 600K FOR THAT ACCRDG TO THEIR CONTRACT..accdg to reports, they agreed to fight at welterweight, so that
@omanzi316 floyd didn't make catch weight against jmm niether did pac against margo so whats ya point?yeah i can provide proof that oscar asked floyd 4blood testing so far u the only 1that didn't know that because floyd didn't bitch about it like pac did.if pac can add on 2the penalty fine why can't floyd make demands 4blood testing?floyd moved up & beat ppl at their fighting weight,jones moved up 16lbs & beat a man at his fighting weight that out weighed him by 25lbs & 5inches taller so whats.
@factsism11 what?! haha! ur arguments are laughable! haha! tell me this which one of them is AT A DISADVANTAGE? floyd who already had the height and reach advantage then came in at 146 instead of 144 or pac who is at a disadvantage against margarito in height and reach and and came in at 144 instead of 150? WHAT"S YA POINT?haha! let the world know about ur proof that oscar and floyd underwent olympic random blood test! where is it?! show us the proof here! haha! WHAT's YA POINT? HAHA!
@omanzi316 corrales had a hieght advantage over floyd so whats ya point?u see how that turned out & castillo,like i said b4 ruiz had a size & height advantage over jones & valuev had a size & hieght advantage over haye klitschko loss 2smaller fighters as well,so most true boxing fans know that boxing don't have shit 2do with size or who gave the most blood its about style, skill & timing no man can beat his biological clock
@factsism11 HAHA! Floyd should have not demanded for blood testing because NSAC DO THE DRUG TESTING..there is already a rule for the drug testing procedure haha AND THAT IS WHAT FLOYD DID WRONG! and to add to that, mayweather family SINGLED OUT PACQUIAO. WHY DIDNT FLOYD ASKED MARQUEZ TO DO THE RANDOM BLOOD TESTING AFTER THE FIRST NEGOTIATION WITH PAC FAILED? ISNT HIS INTENTION IS TO CLEAN UP BOXING? HAHA! BECAUSE HE SINGLED OUT PAC!HE IS ACCUSING HIM OF DOPING WITHOUT HARD EVIDENCE! HAHA!
@omanzi316 ya point?ray robinson moved from welter 2light heavy & beat guys at their weight so whats ya point?u haven't prove that floyd is doing anything worse than anyother fighter or pac is doing any thing better.most great fighter isn't demanded 2change their weight just 2make it easy on the other fighter & baldomir out weighed floyd by 10lbs also & when floyd beat henry & gatti he wasn't a welter 4that long so whats ya point?fighters move up all the time & beat ppl at their own weight
@factsism11 HAHA! Fighter have asked for catchweight fights long before team pac did .. oscar-hopkins was a catchweight .. leonard-hearns 2 was a catchweight .. gatti-ward was a catchweight .. hopkins-pavlik a catchweight .. whitaker-chavez a catchweight and so on . . SO WHATS YA POINT? haha!
@omanzi316 so if its all about weight than that mean oscar was 2drained against pac right?when have moving down in weight ever made a fighter better just give me the number of older fighter moving down in weight that was successful & i'll give u the number of fighters that was successful moving up.why is it when i say lets both compare facts u change the subject?im still waiting on u 2show me who admitted 2beating blood test because its plenty of athletes admitted 2beating urine,lets do it
@factsism11 HAHA! yes oscar was clearly weight drained..BUT. u only have Oscar to blame for that.if he had trouble losing pounds the healthy way, its not pac's fault. why?because there were 2 months to prepare for that.and if u know boxing at all, at that time PAC WAS A LIGHTWEIGHT.. 3 months before that he was a Jr. LIGHTWEIGHT.so what do u want? for him to jump all the way to JR MIDDLEWEIGHT for the fight to happen? haha!
@factsism11 old fighter coming down in weight and be successful? hmm..how about A 43 YR OLD HOPKINS BEATING A 26 YR OLD PAVLIK COMING DOWN FROM 175 to 170 LBS? is that good for you?
@omanzi316 hopkins didn't have 2come down in weight he him self said that his natural weight is 168 so whats ya point?why else do u think he have a waist line of 28 i bet yo ass haven't been a 28 waist size since u were 14,lol so hes naturally small thats why he was a mid weght 4so many years but i will accept ya attempt so thats 1 person now how about me use that same person hopkins who moved up from 160 to light heavy & was successful,roy who moved up from 160 2heavy weight & was
@factsism11 ur a typical FLOMO, answering my quetions with questions.haha..ive answered ur questions with facts but u only answered with questions of ur own. u cant handle the truth about pac and floyd haha im growing tired of this but to answer ur questions again. zahir was a tuneup fight for morales to fight pac for a second time..pac fought a tuneup fight as well at that same event and night..pac wanted a rematch as soon as their first fight was over. pac wanted revenge on morales.u probably
@omanzi316 ur a typical pactard when u can't prove pac is any better than floyd u go 2name calling & justify pac doing the same thing yall accuse floyd of & if blood testing started with shane & floyd like u lie & claim it did than how & the hell do pac think blood test drained him against morales?wasn't that a blood test dumb ass?what did u think they were donating 2red cross or something?& why did they do blood testing if urine tell everything or is good enough?like i said b4 blood test didn't
@factsism11 im not trying to prove pac is better than floyd.and i have not said pac is better than floyd could u not read my posts clearly?haha. that's a lie?hahaha..man do ur research and tell me that floyd and shane were not the first one to do random blood testing in a boxing match and come back here haha..man u dont know much about boxing, that blood test was for hiv/hepatitis not for random blood testing for peds..man do u know anything haha..
@omanzi316 they do olympic style testing in the olympics so what do u mean they don't do that any where?i asked u who have cheated random blood test & my statement was that oscar & floyd took a blood test so u don't know shit about boxing since u didn't know that & hopkins didn't move down in weight his natural weight is 168 he fights at 170-75 max just like u claim pac weight is jr welter weight so if he fought at that weight it wouldn't be considered moving down so u still haven't given me
@omanzi316 proof of anything or what i asked 4 i gave u a list of fighters who moved up beating bigger guys at weights they never been at but u haven't given me a list of fighters that weight drain their self/move down 2become successful,there no proof that blood test drain pac or any fighter but it is proof that ppl lose a lot of muscle & strength when they drain their self so if pac excuse is blood test their excuse is weight drain that roach even admits works also so whats ya point?pac
@omanzi316 pac fights at a 100% but other fighters have 2be less than that how is that fair?& if shaffer is saying it never took place & some 1 else say its about 2 who are u 2say who is lying or not?its just he say she say like i said b4 so u goon believe who u want & so will i but 1fact remain is that jeff told the truth when he said pac wont take full random ?& konz revealed that months after when pac fans kept using wiki as a source2claim pac agreed 2full testing but wiki was wrong as usual
@omanzi316 start with floyd its been going on occasionaly in boxing & mma,u never answered me about why pac ducked zahir just by claiming he was a tune up was no excuse,baldomir wa a tune up 4zab but floyd still fought them both so all ur saying is pac wanted 2fight a man after he got completely dominated & was clearly passed his prime?but why not still fight the better of the 2 as well?just another american fighter pac avoided.
@factsism11 after pac's 1st fight with morales, pac already stated he wants a rematch in their post fight interviews.and both of them had a tuneup fight on the same night at the same event.research it im sure ull be shocked haha.pac clearly wanted revenge for his loss to morales.it's the only reason.zahir would get killed by pac if they met.and what's this morales was past his prime.u didnt say that when morales beat pac but when pac ko morales suddenly he is past his prime haha what a joke
@factsism11 didnt know this cause ur resources is boxrec haha..chavez jr is trained by roach so what ya point? bradley and alexander is being discussed by team pac as possible opponents so what ya point?about shane, roach thought that at the time that shane asked for a fight with pac, pac wasnt ready for shane not just yet.so he asked shane to "make the fight fair for both sides by going down to 142".this was a few month after pac's first fight at welterweight with oscar...u get the point flomo?
@omanzi316 amir khan is trained by roach 2but he still say its a possibility they will put him & pac against each other out hans own my & bob wanted 2put chavez jr against pac but pac claimed chavez was 2big so whats ya point about them being trained by roach?what does that have 2do with anything?bradley & devon are being discussed but until it actuaully happen its just a discussion & don't change the fact that pac avoided young american fighters.how is shane moving down fair if pac said hes
@omanzi316 stroger at that weight?whats un fair is 4a champ 2have 2change his weight 2make it more easier on a fighter that wants your belt easpecially since pac fought a bigger oscar at 147 already so what kinda sense do that mke?so it all right 4pac 2take away ppl advantage & keep his but its wrong 2ask 4random test because it could take away pac?u contradict ya self alot but most bias pactaurds do when their not honest enough 2admit that.so no i don't get the point what great fighter
@omanzi316 in history ever had 2make other fighters drain their self just 2make the fight more easier 4them?no1 ever got that many privileges most fighters are skilled enough 2beat ppl at their own weight like floyd do when moving up so how do anyu body know how good he really is?& u claimed roach wanted 2drain shane because pac just fought at that weight but pac been doing this since he moved up its been 2years now what the hell are u talking about?
@omanzi316 successful against bigger guys,he even packed on 16lbs to fight a man that out weighed him by 25lbs & 5inches taller at a division he never been in so why would i be impress by pac or any other fighter that does it when american fighters been doing this for years,u know american fighters is all the fighters pac docks black or white so the color dont matter,its the style but yet he sure use american trainer 2get better right?klitschkos do the same.
@factsism11 of course there are plenty of dopers in the world that have beaten the urine test BEFORE...BUT TO ASK ME TO GIVE U A FIGHTER WHO HAVE BEATEN A BLOOD TEST IS STUPID!!! because aside from DUCKWEATHER and MOSLEY, NO ONE, As in No one has underwent RANDOM BLOOD TESTING BEFORE IN A BOXING MATCH..they are the only one who did it..u understand this words eh?
@omanzi316 u just lied & said no1 ask 4blood testing in the sport but oscar did against floyd but niether man complained about it,so its not stupid 2ask u 4proof since your claiming urine is so better,how can u ask me 4proof but not give any all u giving me is ya opinions & calling them facts,they even use it in the olympics like i said b4 & they do just fine,well if u can't give me a list of ppl who beat blood testing like the shit load of ppl i know that beat urine than atleast give me a list
@factsism11 man enough of this BS..OSCAR AND FLOYD DID NOT HAVE A RANDOM BLOOD DRUG TEST FOR THEIR FIGHT IN 07..man ur a retard. can u show me a proof or an article that showed that both floyd and oscar underwent random blood testing for their fight in 07 huh? can u show me? and why are u still giving me this "GIVE ME A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO BEAT BLOOD TESTING"? are u really that stupid? ONLY FLOYD AND MOSLEY UNDERWENT RANDOM BLOOD TESTING IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING EVER..comprehend?
@omanzi316 they did take a blood test when oscar & floyd fought its already documented.olympic style testing didnt just go on with floyd & shane its OLYMPIC style so it happens there all the times now tell me who have cheated the blood test until than u have no proof that urine is better if ppl already admitted 2bbeating it whats ya proof man just tell me where the fuck is ya proof at give me 1 testamony it don't even have 2be a list just 1damn person,u keep saying u got facts 4my questions
@omanzi316 of older or any fighters who move down in weight & is successful & i'll give u the list of fighters who move up in weight even by 16lbs & was successful,see just because u say something don't mean im going 2just believe it if the things u say is true than it should be others who live this experience just like u gave a example of ppl who foght at catch weight 4some reason a if i said no1 ever done that except pac,i said pac is the 1st 2use it 2his advantage none of the fighters u
@omanzi316 named u catch weight 2drain other fighters neither fighter was better at catch weight when bhop & pernell or any of them fought their but its carved in stone that pac best weight is catch weights so why make other fighters weaker if u are suppose 2be better like every1 claim but yet he cries about some1 wanting 2drain him,why do he want shane 2drop 7lbs just 2fight him?that makes no sense if he is suppose 2b better at this weight?don't give me smaller man crap because its dozen of
@omanzi316 of fighters who beat bigger men including floyd so its obvious its 2 have a advantage over his opp,& when u think some1 wants a advantage over him just because they ask 4blood testing than why are they so wrong 4that if pac camp admits 2draining fighters 2make them less affective?if u said u were just bias atleast it would make sense of everything u saying but this by it self don't u haven't showed how floyd is any worse than pac in boxing floyd even beat the welters at their own
@factsism11 wanted a rematch floyd "retired".floyd didnt have to do anything with cotto and margarito..he was ducking shane when shane was younger, a welterweight williams, and of course pacquiao.could u defend ur floyd please haha..and were u saying that floyd fought the middleweight champion.could u enlighten us with that? haha..man, ur analogies are way off, pac fought wbo welterweight champ cotto if u havent heard about that haha..
@omanzi316 already enough with all these speculations blood tell things that urine can't & vice versa so whats wrong with blood testing?u say floyd & jmm agreed 2the fine in contract & if pac agreed 2drug testing that would be in the contract 2so whatsya point?all u showed is that every 1have demands out side of commission/sports authorities.if pac claims blood test makes him weak than why do he drain other fighter at a weight every1 claims hes a 100% better at?i thought it was glove size that
@factsism11 IT's not the drug test that makes him weak,its the blood extraction which he blamed for the loss to morales along with the gloves that were used, he wanted cleto reyes gloves. here is pacquiao explaining in an interview why he felt he was weak during 1st morales fight /watch?v=_97MccjZwV4
@omanzi316 u claim that u like proof but u don't provide any so wheres the proof that blood test makes pac weak?u say ppl been doing catch weight & ppl also been doing olympic style testing in the olympics so whats ya point?no1 ever lied & said they loss because their blood was drawn athletes even break records in the olympics regardless of size so wheres ya proof that blood test gives any1 advantages?if thats ya excuse 4pac than that also means cotto,clotty & oscar was weak because the weight
@omanzi316 drain their best weight isn't catch weight but pac best weight is catch weight. no pac blamed his glove size when he loss 2morales than he switched it 2blood testing & dropped the glove story wivh show he lies about his faith,so if a man lie about his god i don't trust him anyway so i don't see anything wrong withtaking a full drug test its never been a problem in the sport b4 until pac came along but urine test have been because fighters have admitted 2beating that already
@omanzi316 weight class & if u commenting about ducking why didn't pac fight zahir,chavez jr,bradley,shane,devon alexander,p williams or martinez ?oh its more but this is enough,how is it ducking when floyd don't fight but not pac?why haven't pac fought the 147champ or mid weight champ?but floyd did when he moved up & at their own weight?pac been a welter weight for 2yrs now & still haven't beaten the 147 champ or mid weight champ so wheres the proof hes better?
@factsism11 williams is too big at 6'2 even floyd does not want a piece of him..it's like asking williams to fight a 6'7 klitshcko.sergio could be a big fight but manny has trouble gaining weight as evidenced by the margarito fight he weighed in at 144 lbs and 148 at fight night and manny has no intentions of staying in jr middleweight..he's limit is really junior welterweight and at max welterweight.now lets go over to who floyd ducked..haha.. how about floyd ducked dela hoya when oscar clearly
@omanzi316 haye beat a man that was atleast 7ft tall so don't make excuses about william size & bringing up the fact that floyd didn't fight him either proves my point pac isn't doing anything better than floyd,& its still no excuse 4him not 2fight sergio instead of margo u claim pac have trouble making weigt but its not like pac would actually fight him at the regular weight any way so what difference would it make as long as the fight was made?its still a duck u haven't showed me what pac is
@omanzi316 is doing any better u just justifying why the fight didn't happen & thats not even facts ur giving me if they are who said it?they didn't come from pac mouth on why he wont fight american fighters or the true champions at 147 & mid weight.u can't say sergio is 2big without saying margo was 2big either margo is bigger than sergio in hight & if u wanna talk about who took risk when moving up was floyd every1 know that floyd best weight was 130-135 pac best weight is welter so
@omanzi316 so why shouldfloyd rematch oscar at 150 when pac wont even fight shane at his own weight once?floyd beat oscar at his weight pac didn't pac didn't even fight cotto at his own weight & if u want 2talk about ducking rematches pac ducked jmm 2settle their old score so how is pac any better?he is even trying 2make jmm come up to 144 so pac wont drain his self 4no1 either after moving up in weight but he demands other fighters do it 4him,floyd demanded drug test & pac weight drained more
@omanzi316 so why shouldfloyd rematch oscar at 150 when pac wont even fight shane at his own weight once?floyd beat oscar at his weight pac didn't pac didn't even fight cotto at his own weight & if u want 2talk about ducking rematches pac ducked jmm 2settle their old score so how is pac any better?he is even trying 2make jmm come up to 144 so pac wont drain his self 4no1 either after moving up in weight but he demands other fighters do it 4him,floyd demanded drug test & pac weight drained
@omanzi316 so why shouldfloyd rematch oscar at 150 when pac wont even fight shane at his own weight once?floyd beat oscar at his weight pac didn't pac didn't even fight cotto at his own weight & if u want 2talk about ducking rematches pac ducked jmm 2settle their old score so how is pac any better?he is even trying 2make jmm come up to 144 so pac wont drain his self 4no1 either after moving up in weight but he demands other fighters do it 4him,floyd demanded drug test & pac weight drained
@omanzi316 cost him 2lose now he claim its drug testing,lol.plus he claimed it was the will of God that he wins so which 1 is it gloves,blood or God,wheres the proof that drug test makes him weak?wheres the proof that 2lbs gave floyd a advantage over jmm considering all the great fighters that move up including floyd that is successful against bigger opp,u ask me 4proof but what have u shown 2prove ya arguement?both fighters would under go the same drug test so whats ya point?pac backed out
@factsism11 It seems to me that ur too ignorant to know that DUCKWEATHER BACKED OUT OF THE 2nd NEGOTIATIONS, IT WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR U COULD NOT DENY IT! haha! search the internet if u have not heard about it! as I said to you earlier, ROSS GREENBURG, president of HBO Sports and a person who is the middleman between the negotiation between team pac and team duckweather said that the fight could have been made if not duckweather decided not to sign on even though THE DRUG TESTING HAS BEEN AGREED ON
@omanzi316 u say floyd ducked the 2nnd negotiations so are u badmitting pac ducked the 1st 1?konz from pac camp already said pac still don't want a full random test pac still want a cut off but floyd do so u need 2search the internet 4pac vs margo 24/7.if pac don't want 2take a full random drug test he shouldn't have 2 &floyd shouldn't have 2fight a man that don't want a full random drug test either so whats ya point?
@factsism11 pac didnt duck floyd.pac was very willing to fight. why? 1st negotiation didnt went ok bcause they did not agree to a cutoff date..there were no agreement..2nd negotiation they agreed to all terms including drug testing. keyword =agreed, which means everything is set but when it was time to sign the contract floyd backed out.and this was confirmed by ross greenburg, president of HBO sports and dela hoya, who is promoting floyd, said it that they were very close to closing the deal..
@omanzi316 floyd didn't duck pac he was willing 2fight until pac bailed out because of full random drug test,floyd didn't agree 2a cut off the 2nd time wheres the proof of that?all u giving me is he say she say roger mayweather even said pac wont do a full random so the fight wont happen & this was on cbs news & when konz admitted that they wont take a full random because pac still want a cut off by 7days the negotiations failed again & as far as oscar he also said they never agreed so whats ya
@factsism11 man ur a BLIND FLOMO..haha. i couldnt comprehend ur understanding skills haha.. let's break it down to more simple terms for you to understand shall we..there was a 2nd negotiation ok? and because team pac hates team floyd's gut and vice versa, Ross Greenburg acted as an intermediary between them.He is the president of HBO Sports who is NOT BIASED and only wants to make the fight happen and make money for his beloved HBO. now before the negotiation fell apart OSCAR went on in an
@factsism11 in an interview for spanish network saying they(team pac and team floyd) are very close to finalizing the contract. now, richard schaefer denied that saying OSCAR WAS MISQUOTED and THERE WERE NO NEGOTIATIONS even though oscar clearly said that.and here's the part that u should pay attention to, remember Ross Greenburg is the biased president of HBO Sports and he said that everything, he means everything including DRUG TESTING HAS BEEN AGREED UPON and they were only waiting for
@factsism11 floyd to sign the contract, but floyd backed out..he said it clearly with unbiased facts.FLOYD BACKED OUT.and this is not he says she says. it's documented facts, he was interviewed by sports reporters and analyst.and i dont know about u but i wont believe the same mayweathers that saying pac is on A-side meth that is only found in the philippines haha..ROSS GREENBURG=unbias, ROGER MAYWEATHER is gonna defend his nephew of course.
@omanzi316 point?1st oscar claim it was close than he said they never agreed & wheres the proof that they agreed?i asked u 2give me proof of ppl that cheated full random while i give u proof of ppl that admitted to beating urine test but u haven't done that,i asked u 4a list of ppl that got better moving down in weight while i give u a list of ppl that move up & beat bigger fighters all the time leaving no excuse 4jmm but u failed 2do that & i asked u 4da proof that drug test weakens fighters..
@factsism11 what u said clearly asked for is fighters who beat random blood testing..u said it so i do not know what ur smoking but its crystal clear that the only fighters that used random blood testing was mosley and floyd.i still dont know how can u not comprehend that?
@factsism11 what?! man ur stupid..i already said hopkins went down in weight from 175 to 170 and dominated pavlik at his 40's.cotto lost 2 lbs from 147 to 145.that's 3 lbs less than what hopkins did and still got beaten by pac.so whats the point of this list again?and pac said blood extraction, NOT DRUG TEST weakens him..it may not be the same for other people but for pac, it is a legitimate reason for him.it is on his mind..
@factsism11 so ur argument that pac adviser koncz said that team pac still didnt agreed to random blood testing is shit..being that pac and floyd agreed to all the terms, ALL TERMS in the 2nd negotiation INCLUDING DRUG TESTING means that they probably agreed to a certain cutoff date that BOTH PARTIES AGREED ON. is this too much for you to understand? haha..
@omanzi316 while i give u the list of fighters & athletes that proves it don't u haven't done any of that so what facts have u gave me 2the questions i asked u?i also u 2give me a list of fighters or just 1 that use catch weight 2weaken other fighters like pac camp, but u haven't done that either so u just giving me your opinions & what u want to believe but where are the testamonies?
@factsism11 what?! whats the reason for this list to give u fighters that use catchweight 2 weaken other fighters? haha that's a first! haha..u make me laugh! hahaha.
@TheSPORTSMEN10 there's nothing wrong with supporting your idol floyd..what's wrong though is supporting floyd's accusations that manny is taking ped's without proof, discrediting pacquiao's accomplishments and making lame ass videos about it here on youtube.
@factsism11 what made u haters believe that pac is juicing? ever since drugdealing floyd sr made girly gossips, u haters hold onto that like it's the truth.pac has never failed a drug test, he works the hardest train the hardest..u should tell that to FLOYDOCAINE..if someone can prove pac is on ped's with real proof, i will lose all respect for him but until someone has proof, you all could kiss that accusations of yours and shove it right ur asses and mayweather's ass.
@omanzi316 yeah im a hater of ppl that hate drug test but thats about it,actually i didn't think pac was juicing until he made a excuse not 2take a full randome drug test,than u haters blamed floyd 4pac short comings but floyd isn't the 1that stopped MS PACMAN from taking it.i don't believe u,pacroid or floyd sr but i will believe a full random drug test that ''boyh'' fighters will take not just 1.if u can prove he isn't on peds than i will confess that pac is the so called p4p king & G.O.A.T
@factsism11 I'm a hater of people making up rules for a boxing fight even though there are already rules about it that every boxer has followed ever since and a commission to regulate the fights. I'm a hater of people trying to start rumors but do not have proof. and I'm a hater of people that thinks that the presumption of innocence is "guilty until proven innocent".
@omanzi316 pac make up rules also so u should hate pac 4that no where in the rules does it say fighters have 2agree 2 8oz gloves nor do it say that a fighter should have 2 pay 10mill each lb their over weight & the commission have yheir wn rules on the fine 4that already & i'v seen u on other boxing pages & u said nothing when oscar demanded blood testing from floyd so whats ya point?the doctors admitted that blood test is better than urine & thats why fighters even admit that blood tell more
@factsism11 everything that team pacquaio asked in the negotiations was already being done before..like choosing of glove size and penalty for weighing over the weight limit.WBO rules about gloves is from welterweight and down, it's 8 oz. gloves and from Jr Middleweight and up, it's 10oz..and floyd has a history of coming in at weigh in day weighing over the limit (JMM fight) so it's not really absurd and to make sure that floyd does not come over the weight limit.
@factsism11 In the history of boxing before mayweather-mosley, it has never happened that a boxer is demanding another boxer to undergo another form of testing other than the testing used by the nsac for years..oscar demanded testing from floyd for what?can u give the name of the doctor that said that huh?for your information,blood testing DOES NOT TEST FOR EPO..it is just a screening test meaning if something comes up, they still would resort to urine testing to know what EPO is used
@omanzi316 oscar demanded blood testing from floyd so whats ya point?but who in the history of boxing ever demanded 10mill each lb over or demand other fighters 2constantly lose weight just because their good at their fighting weight like roach admitted to doing & wanted 2do 2shane,so if ur a true boxing fan why didn't u know oscar had floyd do blood testing?tell me why do pac hate drug test anyway,urine tells something the blood can't & blood tells what urine can't so whats ya point?u only..
@omanzi316 prove that both is needed & i agree thats why fighters admit that random with BLOOD included is the best,i can give u a list of fighters who admitted that they easily passed the urine test like shane but can u give me a list of ppl who passed the full random blood test?im still waiting on that.if u a fan of the sport than u wouldn't see anything wrong with them advancing 2a better system if star fighters admit its easy 2beat & have been beaten.so like i said floyd wasn't the 1rst
@factsism11 will be @ 147 lbs which is Floyd's fighting weight for 5 years now..so there's no reason to go over 147lbs..and tell me isnt that fair to make sure Floyd comes in at 147lbs knowing HE HAD A HISTORY OF GOING OVER THE WEIGHT LIMIT FOR ADDED ADVANTAGE? ISNT THAT PROOF? HARD PROOF? and pac doesnt hate drug tests..haha..if u've been following pac before u'd know that pac blamed his loss to morales to a blood test that was happened to him the day of their fight.during the fight he said he
@factsism11 felt weak..he has said it over and over again that he is willing to take the blood test but not just up until the day of the fight because of what happened to the morales fight but because of risk of hematomas, his team wanted a cutoff date that was already agreed upon on the 2nd negotiation..u might have heard about it in the news already that floyd CLEARLY backed out of negotiations.they were just waiting for his GO SIGNAL.Everything else was agreed on including pac's go signal.
@omanzi316 twice,floyd never wanted a cut off he only tried 2compromise 4pac but pac didn't want it the 1st time so neither man wants 2compromise again whats the difference?24/7 also showed that pac didn't want a full random drug test & thats why negotiations failed again,konz admitted that,hgh only last for 24-48 so whats ya point?thats not a problem if its random blood & urine no fighter can or ever have beaten that & thats why shane admitted that its better 4the sport,u still haven't
@factsism11 and according to Ross Greenburg, head of HBO Sports, who was acting as the middleman between the two teams, everything was ok INCLUDING THE DRUG TESTS but for unknown reasons, FLOYD BACKED OUT. It was already concluded by NSAC and DRUG TESTING EXPERTS that there is no blood testing for HGH because HGH lasts only 24-48 hrs to be detectable by the current blood test which means to catch someone u have to do blood tests every other day.And u clearly didnt get my point, if random urine
@factsism11 testing can detect EPO, what's the need for blood testing for EPO? oh yeah provide us with ur list haha..passed the full random blood test? u mean their other boxers who did random blood tests?haha..i thought mosley and mayweather were the first to use that?haha.i dont have anything against a more fair drug testing policy but FLOYD IS CLEARLY USING THIS FOR HIS PERSONAL REASONS, NOT "TO CLEAN UP BOXING" like he is claiming.
@omanzi316 told me who beat full random blood test yet & epo isn't the only ped,but i can give u a LIST of ppl who pass urine test easily so if urine was so much better why is it no1 ever said they have cheated a full random blood test but soooooo many ppl admitted 2 beating urine test u only speculate that urine test is better but wheres the proof that it i,like i said b4 im not just gonna take ya word 4it or anybody elses just give me some names of ppl who passed it while cheating.
@omanzi316 here is a short list of fighters who admitted 2using peds & beating the urine test tommy morrison,klitschko & shane,now give me ya list of fighters that beat a full random blood test.if floyd is using drug test 2his advantage than pac is making other fighters lose weight 4his.
@omanzi316 2ask 4blood testing but pac is the 1st 2ask 4a 10mill weight penalty & if the commission have there fines already why is pac demanding his own?since ppl making their own demands is such a big deal 2u.pac didn't make welter weight limit aainst margo so whats ya point? 8oz gloves is a personal demand as well so u haven't showed me anything that showed floyd is going against boxing rules more than any1 else especially pac,the 1st rule of boxing protect ya self at times & if its a problem
@factsism11 The NSAC already had a hearing about the pros and cons of random blood testing last June 2010 and among the invited are experts in drug testing and USADA CEO Atty. Tygart. The drug experts already concluded that urine testing is still better than blood testing and everybody is under the impression that Atty. Tygart and USADA is only after the big bucks that boxing will give them. Keep in mind, USADA is selling a product and Tygart is golf buddies with Dela Hoya.
@factsism11 and I don't really get why USADA stopped blood testing 18 days before the fight. Mayweather's last blood test was on April 13 and Mosley's last blood test was on April 12. They both stopped with their urine testing April 24. Their fight was on May 1st. Now, they're saying to catch a doper, blood testing should be random until the day of the fight right?
@omanzi316 than urine i can give u 3known fighters right now that admitted that the urine test is easier 2pass than blood by their own admition but how many ppl can u tell me that hate blood test or have cheated a full radom blood test?its even ppl on probation that beat that weak shit but just tell me how many ppl u know that pass frb & we will compare stats,this will solve this issue.floyd or shane didn't know when the cut off would be that was they dicussed that already on 24/7 also,
@TheSPORTSMEN10 why is it ok for duckweather to duck mosley when mosley was younger, faster? to duck cotto? to duck margarito? to duck dela hoya after a very close first fight?
@TheSPORTSMEN10 pac did not duck mosley..mosley approached roach after pac beat dela hoya.considering the fight with oscar was manny's first at welterweight, roach proposed to mosley if he could cut some weight to make it fair for pac.cause roach thinks AT THAT TIME that pac was not ready for shane.not just yet..so team pac went down to junior welterweight to test if pac can take hatton then cotto came and he took care of that also.manny doesnt duck, especially a bradley!bradley would get killed
@TheSPORTSMEN10 mayweather made marquez come up 2 weight divisions and beat marquez at welterweight..many people believe lightweight is marquez's best weight.it clearly showed the effect when marquez was slower than usual in the floyd fight..people give MORE CREDIT to a fighter who come up in weight and beat the bigger man.and also floyd came up in the weighing scale weighing more than the contract limit of 144..he came in at 146lbs and obviously weighed more than that on fight night.
@TheSPORTSMEN10 Manny Pacquiao says FUCK YOU..d fight with oscar in d eyes of many was a close a fight, could have gone either way.SPLIT DECISION.Floyd Sr even said that oscar did enough to win the fight..so obviously, it was fair to say that oscar deserves a rematch.but what did little floyd do? HE "RETIRED".when buffer announced floyd being d winner, u could see the face of mayweather breathing a sigh of relief that he's 0 wasn't taken away from him cause he knew that he could have lost.
@urboxingfan i wonder i you have the balls to stop hiding behind your computer and post a video here on u tube showing ur face saying pac is on steroids..u just comment here without fucking proof..pac already agreed to 14 days cutoff for blood testing and immediately after the fight and unlimited urine samples.USADA (floyd's bitches) got blood samples from both floyd and shane 18 days before the fight.THEY DID NOT GET ANOTHER BLOOD SAMPLE AFTER THAT.
manny pac is full of shit...you got one guy who wont test (fag) and one dude who cheated (margarito) both promoted by the same scandelous piece of shit arum wow what a trip boy cott manny pac's fights he's fake a paper champ who only fights fighters promoted by the same promoter as his..i aint fooled by this paper champ.who beats a dude named clotty and everyone things he accomplished something what a joke,cotto is joke margarito is a joke pac is a fucken joke
You're a joke mate! I don't think there's ever been a fighter who has fought so many top flight boxer's as Pac. He's the one chasing the fight against Mayweather so according to your logic that would make Mayweather a joke? Also, Pac's agreed to Mayweather's testing terms, which are more rigorous than Mosley's showing how ignorant the Mayweather fanbase is. I don't like Mayweather but I'm not gonna make false accusations bout him, claiming he's a shit fighter. Take a leaf and have some respect!
@scootaymildo check it out POINT IS if someone is saying your a dirty piece of shit let alone to the american public your ass better take any kind of test to prove your clean IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE!!!! understand pac agreed to testing 24 days before the fight.and if you know anything about steriod theres ways to clean the shit out with that much time.point if the fuckers clean he shouldnt make anykind of excuses y in the fuck would anyone walk away from as much money as there.
The only hater around here is Mayweather. He's nothing but an evil little racist scumbag. Anyone who would look up to Mayweather has to be a filthy racist themselves. It's a shame this hate filled little devil is in a position where he can influence small children and teenagers. Just a horrible role model and a completely worthless creature. Hopefully he will die of a brain aneurism soon and the world will be rid of his vile hatefulness. People like him belong in the 1930s.
gx0x0xgxlxescrewedus 2 days ago
Floyd is the man
MrTrayvion45 1 month ago
I could beat Floyd's ass...but then again I weigh about 100 pounds more than he does, I have 6 inches on him and at least 10" of reach on him. Plus I don't mean in the ring, I just mean in general.
GhostDistortion 1 month ago
In the fight with Hatton Floyd had a lot of help from the referee.
MrMZaccone 3 months ago
he's not american! Hes a NIGGER! lolz
ryaniam9i6 3 months ago
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Fraud says Manny need 24day cut off bloodtest. Manny said OK. then Fraud says Manny needs 14days cut off. Manny said OK. then Fraud says Manny needs 0day cut off. Manny said OK. after beating Oritz fraud says, I dont need Manny anymore. LOL flomos still buying his crapps. unbelievable.
eplayersus 4 months ago
He fought Hatton at 147 not 140, where they were in the weight class
KHLB516 4 months ago
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floyds the best ever
aaronracine 4 months ago
i kinda agree wit wut dude is tryna say here. mayweather is better than we give him credit for. but pacman would beat the hell out of him.
TheEddie1987 4 months ago
He wouldn't be in a no win situation if he wasn't such a cocky, ignorant fucktard.
trollinyousoftly7 5 months ago
GREAT VIDEO!!!
reefhands 5 months ago
when did pac ducked mosley? lmao what happened to mosley when he fought floyd? did he he knocked him down like pac did? come on! your'e a floyd fan not a boxing fan... all you see here is floyd floyd floyd
zergqual 7 months ago
@zergqual search on youtube "Mayweather vs Mosley - Pacquiao Exposed" Pacquiao's team ducked Mosley after Mosley's destruction of Margarito.
WOTGSmash 7 months ago
@zergqual lol then mosley knocked down pacquiao to
MannyMMA 6 months ago
@zergqual When Mosley KO'd the guy everyobody feared, (Margarito) he then wanted to fight Pac, Roach said he would only fight if he could drain him like he did Oscar...but more. Mosley said why not at 147 and Roach told him because you are better than Oscar. (I saw him say it with his own mouth (Roach)
Then Mosley gets fcuked up by Mayweather then has a poorer showing against S. Mora so I guess it was then safe for Pac to fight him. THE GUY HAS NOT BEAT ONE GUY COMING OFF OF A GOOD WIN !!!
Hannibalscousin 6 months ago
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this shit is raw lol. I'm gonna put this on my page
78FightNews 8 months ago
I can't wait till they ad Manny to the list... That will be what they call "A Wrap!"
Pullcountertv 8 months ago
this video is tough. Someone that really knows boxing. Floyd never ducked no one. People only run and hide from him and try to flip it.
flash441 8 months ago
@flash441 I agree....and not even just that...most of the time...the opponent is at just as much fault but just because floyd is who he is they would rather put the weight on floyds shoulders....like manny had mad reasons that the fight didnt happen...the one and only thing floyd said was a drug test...manny talking about his promoters aint gonna do it and then he scared of needles ECT. floyd had one condition...take a random drug test....
BiggieSmalls11111 8 months ago
Floyd fought Judha (after loosing to Carlos B.) then fought Carlos B. cuz he had no choice, he would of had to fight Margarito or Cotto...no way he would of done that. Give him props for Hatton but who else was out there at 147 not 140? yeap Berto vs Mosley and a fight broke up, Floyd once again was up agaisnt the wall to fight Mosley...no way he's gonna fight Pacman! 2 bad.
carohaga 9 months ago
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@carohaga same can be said about pac
factsism11 9 months ago
Got to admit that video is the truth.......
ChrisTorina1 9 months ago
Floyd is right he will not be beaten, because he is the biggest fight ducking coward in boxing history! Floyd's legacy is a shit stain on the footnotes of boxing history!!
hawkermustang 10 months ago
@hawkermustang yea floyd is the best
BiggieSmalls11111 10 months ago
@BiggieSmalls11111 Manny is the boss!!
hawkermustang 10 months ago
@hawkermustang And floyd is the franchise owner
BiggieSmalls11111 10 months ago
@BiggieSmalls11111 KFC?
hawkermustang 10 months ago
@hawkermustang haha HELL YEA!!!!!
BiggieSmalls11111 10 months ago
yeah, floyd doesn't make the rules of boxing... ok,let's forget the Olympic Style drug testing..LOL
harvpila 10 months ago
hes ducking pacquiao
dodgers6590 10 months ago
What are the odds for Pascal vs. Hopkins?
kristalhart 10 months ago
aint cotto and clottey nice and humble just like manny so why are they not treat the same
1shadowlaw 11 months ago
I LIKE SHANE THAN FLOYD!!!..I THINK SHANE IS A GOOD MAN THAN FLOYD WHO IS A WIFE BEATER..
lalagirl211 11 months ago
MANNY PACQUIAO!!!!!!!!!!
FLOYD IS SCARED TO FIGHT MANNY THAT'S WHY HE SAID THAT HE IS GOING TO TAKE 2 YRS.BREAK WTF?!!!R U S3R10U$??
lalagirl211 11 months ago
Fuck pacquiao Mayweathers the best, same thing would have happenned when people said Oh Floyd's ducking Miguel COtto, fuck Miguel Cotto he is anAN embarrassment for PUERTO RICO, WHO SOLD HIS FIGHT WITH BITCH PACQUIAO . Fuck you pacquiao, fuck you miguel cotto and fyuck you ricky hatton I would fight any of you any time any place so bring it up
fitnessboyPR 1 year ago
Mayweather is a punk he is scared of Manny Pacquiao running like a little bitch ... ricky hatton is shit, everyone knows that he couldnt stand up to mayweather ... but manny is a different league. The Best.
Communist2012 1 year ago 2
@Communist2012
Manny is Pussy!! he hasnt even fought anyone in the top 10's in over 3 years.
Venus1Star 11 months ago
@Venus1Star yea i was about to say are there only people watching this video the ones who JUST started watching boxing??? honeslty half these people dont even know what they are talking about.....Manny wouldnt even fight for all that money that was on the table over a simple random drug test that floyd himself said he would even take...this isnt rocket science its clear whos ducking who...and it aint even manny its his camp instructing him to do this so he SEEMS to be the best
BiggieSmalls11111 10 months ago
@Communist2012 a different league??? how u in a different league struggling with marquez, cotto getting hit 229 times by margarito, looking so flawed aginst shane mosley..lol u guys only sit bak and see the punches manny is landing u dont see the openings, u dont see the defensive flaws that would be his downfall aginst a fighter who excels at finding the openings
ajp135212 8 months ago
@Communist2012
yes, manny is a different league. the steroids league.
BrKT85 7 months ago
@Communist2012 NO MANNY IS SCARED.
sunzgunz 1 month ago
DIS IS TRUH WELL TRUH THANKS!!!!
MegaAdidas7 1 year ago
YES!Oscar at the end of his career weight drained to 147 lol, then hatton who got koed by PBF and was never the same, then Cotto who just got bashed by Margarcheto with bricks and looked like he lost to clottey and Cotto was drained to 145 another catchweight. then Joshua Clottey who was basically a 12 round punching bag and i will never watch a fight from him again. Then pac fight Margacheto who just took 1 year off looked horrible on his first fight back and got koed by Mosley.
telofajoe 1 year ago 20
@telofajoe exactly he even fought clottley when clottey was coming off a loss. erik morales when morales washed up and coming off a brutal loss zahir raheem
baller2011able 4 months ago
@baller2011able then afta margarito he versus mosley who just got beat by may and (Mora IMO) and had to go down to 147 again when he was like 155versing mora.
telofajoe 4 months ago
@telofajoe exactly all the guys he faced have just lost their fight or looked terrible in their last figh
baller2011able 4 months ago
haha! really huh?! can u give us proof that oscar demanded random blood testing from floyd for their fight last 07? i cant seem to remember that they both undergo random blood testing for their fight haha and im sure everybody else hasnt heard what you're claiming..FLOYD AND JMM AGREED TO A CATCHWEIGHT FOR THEIR FIGHT @144lbs.AT WEIGH IN DAY, FLOYD WEIGHED IN 2lbs OVER 144lbs, SO HE HAD TO PAY 600K FOR THAT ACCRDG TO THEIR CONTRACT..accdg to reports, they agreed to fight at welterweight, so that
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 floyd didn't make catch weight against jmm niether did pac against margo so whats ya point?yeah i can provide proof that oscar asked floyd 4blood testing so far u the only 1that didn't know that because floyd didn't bitch about it like pac did.if pac can add on 2the penalty fine why can't floyd make demands 4blood testing?floyd moved up & beat ppl at their fighting weight,jones moved up 16lbs & beat a man at his fighting weight that out weighed him by 25lbs & 5inches taller so whats.
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 what?! haha! ur arguments are laughable! haha! tell me this which one of them is AT A DISADVANTAGE? floyd who already had the height and reach advantage then came in at 146 instead of 144 or pac who is at a disadvantage against margarito in height and reach and and came in at 144 instead of 150? WHAT"S YA POINT?haha! let the world know about ur proof that oscar and floyd underwent olympic random blood test! where is it?! show us the proof here! haha! WHAT's YA POINT? HAHA!
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 corrales had a hieght advantage over floyd so whats ya point?u see how that turned out & castillo,like i said b4 ruiz had a size & height advantage over jones & valuev had a size & hieght advantage over haye klitschko loss 2smaller fighters as well,so most true boxing fans know that boxing don't have shit 2do with size or who gave the most blood its about style, skill & timing no man can beat his biological clock
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 HAHA! Floyd should have not demanded for blood testing because NSAC DO THE DRUG TESTING..there is already a rule for the drug testing procedure haha AND THAT IS WHAT FLOYD DID WRONG! and to add to that, mayweather family SINGLED OUT PACQUIAO. WHY DIDNT FLOYD ASKED MARQUEZ TO DO THE RANDOM BLOOD TESTING AFTER THE FIRST NEGOTIATION WITH PAC FAILED? ISNT HIS INTENTION IS TO CLEAN UP BOXING? HAHA! BECAUSE HE SINGLED OUT PAC!HE IS ACCUSING HIM OF DOPING WITHOUT HARD EVIDENCE! HAHA!
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 ya point?ray robinson moved from welter 2light heavy & beat guys at their weight so whats ya point?u haven't prove that floyd is doing anything worse than anyother fighter or pac is doing any thing better.most great fighter isn't demanded 2change their weight just 2make it easy on the other fighter & baldomir out weighed floyd by 10lbs also & when floyd beat henry & gatti he wasn't a welter 4that long so whats ya point?fighters move up all the time & beat ppl at their own weight
factsism11 1 year ago
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@factsism11 HAHA! Fighter have asked for catchweight fights long before team pac did .. oscar-hopkins was a catchweight .. leonard-hearns 2 was a catchweight .. gatti-ward was a catchweight .. hopkins-pavlik a catchweight .. whitaker-chavez a catchweight and so on . . SO WHATS YA POINT? haha!
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 so if its all about weight than that mean oscar was 2drained against pac right?when have moving down in weight ever made a fighter better just give me the number of older fighter moving down in weight that was successful & i'll give u the number of fighters that was successful moving up.why is it when i say lets both compare facts u change the subject?im still waiting on u 2show me who admitted 2beating blood test because its plenty of athletes admitted 2beating urine,lets do it
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 HAHA! yes oscar was clearly weight drained..BUT. u only have Oscar to blame for that.if he had trouble losing pounds the healthy way, its not pac's fault. why?because there were 2 months to prepare for that.and if u know boxing at all, at that time PAC WAS A LIGHTWEIGHT.. 3 months before that he was a Jr. LIGHTWEIGHT.so what do u want? for him to jump all the way to JR MIDDLEWEIGHT for the fight to happen? haha!
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 old fighter coming down in weight and be successful? hmm..how about A 43 YR OLD HOPKINS BEATING A 26 YR OLD PAVLIK COMING DOWN FROM 175 to 170 LBS? is that good for you?
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 hopkins didn't have 2come down in weight he him self said that his natural weight is 168 so whats ya point?why else do u think he have a waist line of 28 i bet yo ass haven't been a 28 waist size since u were 14,lol so hes naturally small thats why he was a mid weght 4so many years but i will accept ya attempt so thats 1 person now how about me use that same person hopkins who moved up from 160 to light heavy & was successful,roy who moved up from 160 2heavy weight & was
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 ur a typical FLOMO, answering my quetions with questions.haha..ive answered ur questions with facts but u only answered with questions of ur own. u cant handle the truth about pac and floyd haha im growing tired of this but to answer ur questions again. zahir was a tuneup fight for morales to fight pac for a second time..pac fought a tuneup fight as well at that same event and night..pac wanted a rematch as soon as their first fight was over. pac wanted revenge on morales.u probably
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 ur a typical pactard when u can't prove pac is any better than floyd u go 2name calling & justify pac doing the same thing yall accuse floyd of & if blood testing started with shane & floyd like u lie & claim it did than how & the hell do pac think blood test drained him against morales?wasn't that a blood test dumb ass?what did u think they were donating 2red cross or something?& why did they do blood testing if urine tell everything or is good enough?like i said b4 blood test didn't
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 im not trying to prove pac is better than floyd.and i have not said pac is better than floyd could u not read my posts clearly?haha. that's a lie?hahaha..man do ur research and tell me that floyd and shane were not the first one to do random blood testing in a boxing match and come back here haha..man u dont know much about boxing, that blood test was for hiv/hepatitis not for random blood testing for peds..man do u know anything haha..
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 they do olympic style testing in the olympics so what do u mean they don't do that any where?i asked u who have cheated random blood test & my statement was that oscar & floyd took a blood test so u don't know shit about boxing since u didn't know that & hopkins didn't move down in weight his natural weight is 168 he fights at 170-75 max just like u claim pac weight is jr welter weight so if he fought at that weight it wouldn't be considered moving down so u still haven't given me
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 proof of anything or what i asked 4 i gave u a list of fighters who moved up beating bigger guys at weights they never been at but u haven't given me a list of fighters that weight drain their self/move down 2become successful,there no proof that blood test drain pac or any fighter but it is proof that ppl lose a lot of muscle & strength when they drain their self so if pac excuse is blood test their excuse is weight drain that roach even admits works also so whats ya point?pac
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 pac fights at a 100% but other fighters have 2be less than that how is that fair?& if shaffer is saying it never took place & some 1 else say its about 2 who are u 2say who is lying or not?its just he say she say like i said b4 so u goon believe who u want & so will i but 1fact remain is that jeff told the truth when he said pac wont take full random ?& konz revealed that months after when pac fans kept using wiki as a source2claim pac agreed 2full testing but wiki was wrong as usual
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 start with floyd its been going on occasionaly in boxing & mma,u never answered me about why pac ducked zahir just by claiming he was a tune up was no excuse,baldomir wa a tune up 4zab but floyd still fought them both so all ur saying is pac wanted 2fight a man after he got completely dominated & was clearly passed his prime?but why not still fight the better of the 2 as well?just another american fighter pac avoided.
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 after pac's 1st fight with morales, pac already stated he wants a rematch in their post fight interviews.and both of them had a tuneup fight on the same night at the same event.research it im sure ull be shocked haha.pac clearly wanted revenge for his loss to morales.it's the only reason.zahir would get killed by pac if they met.and what's this morales was past his prime.u didnt say that when morales beat pac but when pac ko morales suddenly he is past his prime haha what a joke
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 didnt know this cause ur resources is boxrec haha..chavez jr is trained by roach so what ya point? bradley and alexander is being discussed by team pac as possible opponents so what ya point?about shane, roach thought that at the time that shane asked for a fight with pac, pac wasnt ready for shane not just yet.so he asked shane to "make the fight fair for both sides by going down to 142".this was a few month after pac's first fight at welterweight with oscar...u get the point flomo?
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 amir khan is trained by roach 2but he still say its a possibility they will put him & pac against each other out hans own my & bob wanted 2put chavez jr against pac but pac claimed chavez was 2big so whats ya point about them being trained by roach?what does that have 2do with anything?bradley & devon are being discussed but until it actuaully happen its just a discussion & don't change the fact that pac avoided young american fighters.how is shane moving down fair if pac said hes
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 stroger at that weight?whats un fair is 4a champ 2have 2change his weight 2make it more easier on a fighter that wants your belt easpecially since pac fought a bigger oscar at 147 already so what kinda sense do that mke?so it all right 4pac 2take away ppl advantage & keep his but its wrong 2ask 4random test because it could take away pac?u contradict ya self alot but most bias pactaurds do when their not honest enough 2admit that.so no i don't get the point what great fighter
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 in history ever had 2make other fighters drain their self just 2make the fight more easier 4them?no1 ever got that many privileges most fighters are skilled enough 2beat ppl at their own weight like floyd do when moving up so how do anyu body know how good he really is?& u claimed roach wanted 2drain shane because pac just fought at that weight but pac been doing this since he moved up its been 2years now what the hell are u talking about?
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 successful against bigger guys,he even packed on 16lbs to fight a man that out weighed him by 25lbs & 5inches taller at a division he never been in so why would i be impress by pac or any other fighter that does it when american fighters been doing this for years,u know american fighters is all the fighters pac docks black or white so the color dont matter,its the style but yet he sure use american trainer 2get better right?klitschkos do the same.
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 of course there are plenty of dopers in the world that have beaten the urine test BEFORE...BUT TO ASK ME TO GIVE U A FIGHTER WHO HAVE BEATEN A BLOOD TEST IS STUPID!!! because aside from DUCKWEATHER and MOSLEY, NO ONE, As in No one has underwent RANDOM BLOOD TESTING BEFORE IN A BOXING MATCH..they are the only one who did it..u understand this words eh?
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 u just lied & said no1 ask 4blood testing in the sport but oscar did against floyd but niether man complained about it,so its not stupid 2ask u 4proof since your claiming urine is so better,how can u ask me 4proof but not give any all u giving me is ya opinions & calling them facts,they even use it in the olympics like i said b4 & they do just fine,well if u can't give me a list of ppl who beat blood testing like the shit load of ppl i know that beat urine than atleast give me a list
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 man enough of this BS..OSCAR AND FLOYD DID NOT HAVE A RANDOM BLOOD DRUG TEST FOR THEIR FIGHT IN 07..man ur a retard. can u show me a proof or an article that showed that both floyd and oscar underwent random blood testing for their fight in 07 huh? can u show me? and why are u still giving me this "GIVE ME A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO BEAT BLOOD TESTING"? are u really that stupid? ONLY FLOYD AND MOSLEY UNDERWENT RANDOM BLOOD TESTING IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING EVER..comprehend?
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 they did take a blood test when oscar & floyd fought its already documented.olympic style testing didnt just go on with floyd & shane its OLYMPIC style so it happens there all the times now tell me who have cheated the blood test until than u have no proof that urine is better if ppl already admitted 2bbeating it whats ya proof man just tell me where the fuck is ya proof at give me 1 testamony it don't even have 2be a list just 1damn person,u keep saying u got facts 4my questions
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 where are they?
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 of older or any fighters who move down in weight & is successful & i'll give u the list of fighters who move up in weight even by 16lbs & was successful,see just because u say something don't mean im going 2just believe it if the things u say is true than it should be others who live this experience just like u gave a example of ppl who foght at catch weight 4some reason a if i said no1 ever done that except pac,i said pac is the 1st 2use it 2his advantage none of the fighters u
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 named u catch weight 2drain other fighters neither fighter was better at catch weight when bhop & pernell or any of them fought their but its carved in stone that pac best weight is catch weights so why make other fighters weaker if u are suppose 2be better like every1 claim but yet he cries about some1 wanting 2drain him,why do he want shane 2drop 7lbs just 2fight him?that makes no sense if he is suppose 2b better at this weight?don't give me smaller man crap because its dozen of
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 of fighters who beat bigger men including floyd so its obvious its 2 have a advantage over his opp,& when u think some1 wants a advantage over him just because they ask 4blood testing than why are they so wrong 4that if pac camp admits 2draining fighters 2make them less affective?if u said u were just bias atleast it would make sense of everything u saying but this by it self don't u haven't showed how floyd is any worse than pac in boxing floyd even beat the welters at their own
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 wanted a rematch floyd "retired".floyd didnt have to do anything with cotto and margarito..he was ducking shane when shane was younger, a welterweight williams, and of course pacquiao.could u defend ur floyd please haha..and were u saying that floyd fought the middleweight champion.could u enlighten us with that? haha..man, ur analogies are way off, pac fought wbo welterweight champ cotto if u havent heard about that haha..
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 already enough with all these speculations blood tell things that urine can't & vice versa so whats wrong with blood testing?u say floyd & jmm agreed 2the fine in contract & if pac agreed 2drug testing that would be in the contract 2so whatsya point?all u showed is that every 1have demands out side of commission/sports authorities.if pac claims blood test makes him weak than why do he drain other fighter at a weight every1 claims hes a 100% better at?i thought it was glove size that
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 IT's not the drug test that makes him weak,its the blood extraction which he blamed for the loss to morales along with the gloves that were used, he wanted cleto reyes gloves. here is pacquiao explaining in an interview why he felt he was weak during 1st morales fight /watch?v=_97MccjZwV4
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 u claim that u like proof but u don't provide any so wheres the proof that blood test makes pac weak?u say ppl been doing catch weight & ppl also been doing olympic style testing in the olympics so whats ya point?no1 ever lied & said they loss because their blood was drawn athletes even break records in the olympics regardless of size so wheres ya proof that blood test gives any1 advantages?if thats ya excuse 4pac than that also means cotto,clotty & oscar was weak because the weight
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 drain their best weight isn't catch weight but pac best weight is catch weight. no pac blamed his glove size when he loss 2morales than he switched it 2blood testing & dropped the glove story wivh show he lies about his faith,so if a man lie about his god i don't trust him anyway so i don't see anything wrong withtaking a full drug test its never been a problem in the sport b4 until pac came along but urine test have been because fighters have admitted 2beating that already
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 weight class & if u commenting about ducking why didn't pac fight zahir,chavez jr,bradley,shane,devon alexander,p williams or martinez ?oh its more but this is enough,how is it ducking when floyd don't fight but not pac?why haven't pac fought the 147champ or mid weight champ?but floyd did when he moved up & at their own weight?pac been a welter weight for 2yrs now & still haven't beaten the 147 champ or mid weight champ so wheres the proof hes better?
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 williams is too big at 6'2 even floyd does not want a piece of him..it's like asking williams to fight a 6'7 klitshcko.sergio could be a big fight but manny has trouble gaining weight as evidenced by the margarito fight he weighed in at 144 lbs and 148 at fight night and manny has no intentions of staying in jr middleweight..he's limit is really junior welterweight and at max welterweight.now lets go over to who floyd ducked..haha.. how about floyd ducked dela hoya when oscar clearly
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 haye beat a man that was atleast 7ft tall so don't make excuses about william size & bringing up the fact that floyd didn't fight him either proves my point pac isn't doing anything better than floyd,& its still no excuse 4him not 2fight sergio instead of margo u claim pac have trouble making weigt but its not like pac would actually fight him at the regular weight any way so what difference would it make as long as the fight was made?its still a duck u haven't showed me what pac is
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 is doing any better u just justifying why the fight didn't happen & thats not even facts ur giving me if they are who said it?they didn't come from pac mouth on why he wont fight american fighters or the true champions at 147 & mid weight.u can't say sergio is 2big without saying margo was 2big either margo is bigger than sergio in hight & if u wanna talk about who took risk when moving up was floyd every1 know that floyd best weight was 130-135 pac best weight is welter so
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 so why shouldfloyd rematch oscar at 150 when pac wont even fight shane at his own weight once?floyd beat oscar at his weight pac didn't pac didn't even fight cotto at his own weight & if u want 2talk about ducking rematches pac ducked jmm 2settle their old score so how is pac any better?he is even trying 2make jmm come up to 144 so pac wont drain his self 4no1 either after moving up in weight but he demands other fighters do it 4him,floyd demanded drug test & pac weight drained more
factsism11 1 year ago
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@omanzi316 so why shouldfloyd rematch oscar at 150 when pac wont even fight shane at his own weight once?floyd beat oscar at his weight pac didn't pac didn't even fight cotto at his own weight & if u want 2talk about ducking rematches pac ducked jmm 2settle their old score so how is pac any better?he is even trying 2make jmm come up to 144 so pac wont drain his self 4no1 either after moving up in weight but he demands other fighters do it 4him,floyd demanded drug test & pac weight drained
factsism11 1 year ago
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@omanzi316 so why shouldfloyd rematch oscar at 150 when pac wont even fight shane at his own weight once?floyd beat oscar at his weight pac didn't pac didn't even fight cotto at his own weight & if u want 2talk about ducking rematches pac ducked jmm 2settle their old score so how is pac any better?he is even trying 2make jmm come up to 144 so pac wont drain his self 4no1 either after moving up in weight but he demands other fighters do it 4him,floyd demanded drug test & pac weight drained
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 more fighters tho
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 cost him 2lose now he claim its drug testing,lol.plus he claimed it was the will of God that he wins so which 1 is it gloves,blood or God,wheres the proof that drug test makes him weak?wheres the proof that 2lbs gave floyd a advantage over jmm considering all the great fighters that move up including floyd that is successful against bigger opp,u ask me 4proof but what have u shown 2prove ya arguement?both fighters would under go the same drug test so whats ya point?pac backed out
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 It seems to me that ur too ignorant to know that DUCKWEATHER BACKED OUT OF THE 2nd NEGOTIATIONS, IT WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR U COULD NOT DENY IT! haha! search the internet if u have not heard about it! as I said to you earlier, ROSS GREENBURG, president of HBO Sports and a person who is the middleman between the negotiation between team pac and team duckweather said that the fight could have been made if not duckweather decided not to sign on even though THE DRUG TESTING HAS BEEN AGREED ON
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 u say floyd ducked the 2nnd negotiations so are u badmitting pac ducked the 1st 1?konz from pac camp already said pac still don't want a full random test pac still want a cut off but floyd do so u need 2search the internet 4pac vs margo 24/7.if pac don't want 2take a full random drug test he shouldn't have 2 &floyd shouldn't have 2fight a man that don't want a full random drug test either so whats ya point?
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 pac didnt duck floyd.pac was very willing to fight. why? 1st negotiation didnt went ok bcause they did not agree to a cutoff date..there were no agreement..2nd negotiation they agreed to all terms including drug testing. keyword =agreed, which means everything is set but when it was time to sign the contract floyd backed out.and this was confirmed by ross greenburg, president of HBO sports and dela hoya, who is promoting floyd, said it that they were very close to closing the deal..
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 floyd didn't duck pac he was willing 2fight until pac bailed out because of full random drug test,floyd didn't agree 2a cut off the 2nd time wheres the proof of that?all u giving me is he say she say roger mayweather even said pac wont do a full random so the fight wont happen & this was on cbs news & when konz admitted that they wont take a full random because pac still want a cut off by 7days the negotiations failed again & as far as oscar he also said they never agreed so whats ya
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 man ur a BLIND FLOMO..haha. i couldnt comprehend ur understanding skills haha.. let's break it down to more simple terms for you to understand shall we..there was a 2nd negotiation ok? and because team pac hates team floyd's gut and vice versa, Ross Greenburg acted as an intermediary between them.He is the president of HBO Sports who is NOT BIASED and only wants to make the fight happen and make money for his beloved HBO. now before the negotiation fell apart OSCAR went on in an
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 in an interview for spanish network saying they(team pac and team floyd) are very close to finalizing the contract. now, richard schaefer denied that saying OSCAR WAS MISQUOTED and THERE WERE NO NEGOTIATIONS even though oscar clearly said that.and here's the part that u should pay attention to, remember Ross Greenburg is the biased president of HBO Sports and he said that everything, he means everything including DRUG TESTING HAS BEEN AGREED UPON and they were only waiting for
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 floyd to sign the contract, but floyd backed out..he said it clearly with unbiased facts.FLOYD BACKED OUT.and this is not he says she says. it's documented facts, he was interviewed by sports reporters and analyst.and i dont know about u but i wont believe the same mayweathers that saying pac is on A-side meth that is only found in the philippines haha..ROSS GREENBURG=unbias, ROGER MAYWEATHER is gonna defend his nephew of course.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 oscar didnt say they did not agree..WHAT HE AND SCHAEFER WAS TELLING IS NEGOTIATIONS NEVER TOOK PLACE which is a LIE.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 point?1st oscar claim it was close than he said they never agreed & wheres the proof that they agreed?i asked u 2give me proof of ppl that cheated full random while i give u proof of ppl that admitted to beating urine test but u haven't done that,i asked u 4a list of ppl that got better moving down in weight while i give u a list of ppl that move up & beat bigger fighters all the time leaving no excuse 4jmm but u failed 2do that & i asked u 4da proof that drug test weakens fighters..
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 what u said clearly asked for is fighters who beat random blood testing..u said it so i do not know what ur smoking but its crystal clear that the only fighters that used random blood testing was mosley and floyd.i still dont know how can u not comprehend that?
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 what?! man ur stupid..i already said hopkins went down in weight from 175 to 170 and dominated pavlik at his 40's.cotto lost 2 lbs from 147 to 145.that's 3 lbs less than what hopkins did and still got beaten by pac.so whats the point of this list again?and pac said blood extraction, NOT DRUG TEST weakens him..it may not be the same for other people but for pac, it is a legitimate reason for him.it is on his mind..
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 so ur argument that pac adviser koncz said that team pac still didnt agreed to random blood testing is shit..being that pac and floyd agreed to all the terms, ALL TERMS in the 2nd negotiation INCLUDING DRUG TESTING means that they probably agreed to a certain cutoff date that BOTH PARTIES AGREED ON. is this too much for you to understand? haha..
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 while i give u the list of fighters & athletes that proves it don't u haven't done any of that so what facts have u gave me 2the questions i asked u?i also u 2give me a list of fighters or just 1 that use catch weight 2weaken other fighters like pac camp, but u haven't done that either so u just giving me your opinions & what u want to believe but where are the testamonies?
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 what?! whats the reason for this list to give u fighters that use catchweight 2 weaken other fighters? haha that's a first! haha..u make me laugh! hahaha.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 so are u calling konz a liar?why would he go on 24/7 last month & lie about something like that?
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 this vid don't disccredit pac no more than yall discredit floyd.
factsism11 1 year ago
Pacquiao ducked Raheem, Guzman, now Martinez!
DEFTASoldier 1 year ago
@DEFTASoldier they dont even have big names in boxing.
poul93 1 year ago
@DEFTASoldier he act as if margo & clottey names is any bigger than martinez,clottey only had 3fans that shoed up at their fight.
factsism11 1 year ago
@TheSPORTSMEN10 there's nothing wrong with supporting your idol floyd..what's wrong though is supporting floyd's accusations that manny is taking ped's without proof, discrediting pacquiao's accomplishments and making lame ass videos about it here on youtube.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 who is supporting pac being on roids?i don't support that i believe in a level plain field.
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 what made u haters believe that pac is juicing? ever since drugdealing floyd sr made girly gossips, u haters hold onto that like it's the truth.pac has never failed a drug test, he works the hardest train the hardest..u should tell that to FLOYDOCAINE..if someone can prove pac is on ped's with real proof, i will lose all respect for him but until someone has proof, you all could kiss that accusations of yours and shove it right ur asses and mayweather's ass.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 yeah im a hater of ppl that hate drug test but thats about it,actually i didn't think pac was juicing until he made a excuse not 2take a full randome drug test,than u haters blamed floyd 4pac short comings but floyd isn't the 1that stopped MS PACMAN from taking it.i don't believe u,pacroid or floyd sr but i will believe a full random drug test that ''boyh'' fighters will take not just 1.if u can prove he isn't on peds than i will confess that pac is the so called p4p king & G.O.A.T
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 I'm a hater of people making up rules for a boxing fight even though there are already rules about it that every boxer has followed ever since and a commission to regulate the fights. I'm a hater of people trying to start rumors but do not have proof. and I'm a hater of people that thinks that the presumption of innocence is "guilty until proven innocent".
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 pac make up rules also so u should hate pac 4that no where in the rules does it say fighters have 2agree 2 8oz gloves nor do it say that a fighter should have 2 pay 10mill each lb their over weight & the commission have yheir wn rules on the fine 4that already & i'v seen u on other boxing pages & u said nothing when oscar demanded blood testing from floyd so whats ya point?the doctors admitted that blood test is better than urine & thats why fighters even admit that blood tell more
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 everything that team pacquaio asked in the negotiations was already being done before..like choosing of glove size and penalty for weighing over the weight limit.WBO rules about gloves is from welterweight and down, it's 8 oz. gloves and from Jr Middleweight and up, it's 10oz..and floyd has a history of coming in at weigh in day weighing over the limit (JMM fight) so it's not really absurd and to make sure that floyd does not come over the weight limit.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 In the history of boxing before mayweather-mosley, it has never happened that a boxer is demanding another boxer to undergo another form of testing other than the testing used by the nsac for years..oscar demanded testing from floyd for what?can u give the name of the doctor that said that huh?for your information,blood testing DOES NOT TEST FOR EPO..it is just a screening test meaning if something comes up, they still would resort to urine testing to know what EPO is used
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 oscar demanded blood testing from floyd so whats ya point?but who in the history of boxing ever demanded 10mill each lb over or demand other fighters 2constantly lose weight just because their good at their fighting weight like roach admitted to doing & wanted 2do 2shane,so if ur a true boxing fan why didn't u know oscar had floyd do blood testing?tell me why do pac hate drug test anyway,urine tells something the blood can't & blood tells what urine can't so whats ya point?u only..
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 prove that both is needed & i agree thats why fighters admit that random with BLOOD included is the best,i can give u a list of fighters who admitted that they easily passed the urine test like shane but can u give me a list of ppl who passed the full random blood test?im still waiting on that.if u a fan of the sport than u wouldn't see anything wrong with them advancing 2a better system if star fighters admit its easy 2beat & have been beaten.so like i said floyd wasn't the 1rst
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 will be @ 147 lbs which is Floyd's fighting weight for 5 years now..so there's no reason to go over 147lbs..and tell me isnt that fair to make sure Floyd comes in at 147lbs knowing HE HAD A HISTORY OF GOING OVER THE WEIGHT LIMIT FOR ADDED ADVANTAGE? ISNT THAT PROOF? HARD PROOF? and pac doesnt hate drug tests..haha..if u've been following pac before u'd know that pac blamed his loss to morales to a blood test that was happened to him the day of their fight.during the fight he said he
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 felt weak..he has said it over and over again that he is willing to take the blood test but not just up until the day of the fight because of what happened to the morales fight but because of risk of hematomas, his team wanted a cutoff date that was already agreed upon on the 2nd negotiation..u might have heard about it in the news already that floyd CLEARLY backed out of negotiations.they were just waiting for his GO SIGNAL.Everything else was agreed on including pac's go signal.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 twice,floyd never wanted a cut off he only tried 2compromise 4pac but pac didn't want it the 1st time so neither man wants 2compromise again whats the difference?24/7 also showed that pac didn't want a full random drug test & thats why negotiations failed again,konz admitted that,hgh only last for 24-48 so whats ya point?thats not a problem if its random blood & urine no fighter can or ever have beaten that & thats why shane admitted that its better 4the sport,u still haven't
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 and according to Ross Greenburg, head of HBO Sports, who was acting as the middleman between the two teams, everything was ok INCLUDING THE DRUG TESTS but for unknown reasons, FLOYD BACKED OUT. It was already concluded by NSAC and DRUG TESTING EXPERTS that there is no blood testing for HGH because HGH lasts only 24-48 hrs to be detectable by the current blood test which means to catch someone u have to do blood tests every other day.And u clearly didnt get my point, if random urine
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 testing can detect EPO, what's the need for blood testing for EPO? oh yeah provide us with ur list haha..passed the full random blood test? u mean their other boxers who did random blood tests?haha..i thought mosley and mayweather were the first to use that?haha.i dont have anything against a more fair drug testing policy but FLOYD IS CLEARLY USING THIS FOR HIS PERSONAL REASONS, NOT "TO CLEAN UP BOXING" like he is claiming.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 told me who beat full random blood test yet & epo isn't the only ped,but i can give u a LIST of ppl who pass urine test easily so if urine was so much better why is it no1 ever said they have cheated a full random blood test but soooooo many ppl admitted 2 beating urine test u only speculate that urine test is better but wheres the proof that it i,like i said b4 im not just gonna take ya word 4it or anybody elses just give me some names of ppl who passed it while cheating.
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 here is a short list of fighters who admitted 2using peds & beating the urine test tommy morrison,klitschko & shane,now give me ya list of fighters that beat a full random blood test.if floyd is using drug test 2his advantage than pac is making other fighters lose weight 4his.
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 2ask 4blood testing but pac is the 1st 2ask 4a 10mill weight penalty & if the commission have there fines already why is pac demanding his own?since ppl making their own demands is such a big deal 2u.pac didn't make welter weight limit aainst margo so whats ya point? 8oz gloves is a personal demand as well so u haven't showed me anything that showed floyd is going against boxing rules more than any1 else especially pac,the 1st rule of boxing protect ya self at times & if its a problem
factsism11 1 year ago
@omanzi316 why would the commission allow it?only thing ur saying its alright 4pac but wrong 4floyd.
factsism11 1 year ago
@factsism11 The NSAC already had a hearing about the pros and cons of random blood testing last June 2010 and among the invited are experts in drug testing and USADA CEO Atty. Tygart. The drug experts already concluded that urine testing is still better than blood testing and everybody is under the impression that Atty. Tygart and USADA is only after the big bucks that boxing will give them. Keep in mind, USADA is selling a product and Tygart is golf buddies with Dela Hoya.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@factsism11 and I don't really get why USADA stopped blood testing 18 days before the fight. Mayweather's last blood test was on April 13 and Mosley's last blood test was on April 12. They both stopped with their urine testing April 24. Their fight was on May 1st. Now, they're saying to catch a doper, blood testing should be random until the day of the fight right?
omanzi316 1 year ago
@omanzi316 than urine i can give u 3known fighters right now that admitted that the urine test is easier 2pass than blood by their own admition but how many ppl can u tell me that hate blood test or have cheated a full radom blood test?its even ppl on probation that beat that weak shit but just tell me how many ppl u know that pass frb & we will compare stats,this will solve this issue.floyd or shane didn't know when the cut off would be that was they dicussed that already on 24/7 also,
factsism11 1 year ago
@TheSPORTSMEN10 why is it ok for duckweather to duck mosley when mosley was younger, faster? to duck cotto? to duck margarito? to duck dela hoya after a very close first fight?
omanzi316 1 year ago
@TheSPORTSMEN10 pac did not duck mosley..mosley approached roach after pac beat dela hoya.considering the fight with oscar was manny's first at welterweight, roach proposed to mosley if he could cut some weight to make it fair for pac.cause roach thinks AT THAT TIME that pac was not ready for shane.not just yet..so team pac went down to junior welterweight to test if pac can take hatton then cotto came and he took care of that also.manny doesnt duck, especially a bradley!bradley would get killed
omanzi316 1 year ago
@TheSPORTSMEN10 mayweather made marquez come up 2 weight divisions and beat marquez at welterweight..many people believe lightweight is marquez's best weight.it clearly showed the effect when marquez was slower than usual in the floyd fight..people give MORE CREDIT to a fighter who come up in weight and beat the bigger man.and also floyd came up in the weighing scale weighing more than the contract limit of 144..he came in at 146lbs and obviously weighed more than that on fight night.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@TheSPORTSMEN10 Manny Pacquiao says FUCK YOU..d fight with oscar in d eyes of many was a close a fight, could have gone either way.SPLIT DECISION.Floyd Sr even said that oscar did enough to win the fight..so obviously, it was fair to say that oscar deserves a rematch.but what did little floyd do? HE "RETIRED".when buffer announced floyd being d winner, u could see the face of mayweather breathing a sigh of relief that he's 0 wasn't taken away from him cause he knew that he could have lost.
omanzi316 1 year ago
@urboxingfan i wonder i you have the balls to stop hiding behind your computer and post a video here on u tube showing ur face saying pac is on steroids..u just comment here without fucking proof..pac already agreed to 14 days cutoff for blood testing and immediately after the fight and unlimited urine samples.USADA (floyd's bitches) got blood samples from both floyd and shane 18 days before the fight.THEY DID NOT GET ANOTHER BLOOD SAMPLE AFTER THAT.
omanzi316 1 year ago
pacroid is need to stop hidihg behind his promoter & come clean & take the test and be his own Boss
ukboxingfan 1 year ago
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ukboxingfan 1 year ago
THIS WAS NICELY DONE YO FUCK THE HATERS
glorydproductions 1 year ago
Remember when floyd was ducking his wife??
then he beat her and threatened his kids........
42-0 baby!!!
Alm0stExtinct 1 year ago
@Alm0stExtinct when did he beat his wife?
factsism11 1 year ago
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osamabad 1 year ago
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@Alm0stExtinct
Remember when haters were saying Floyd was ducking that security guard? Then Floyd beat his ass with TWO FINGERS. 43-0! Lol
osamabad 1 year ago
gayweather is a lil bitch
IIIPiNkStArZ 1 year ago
pacroid is a lil bitch
itzeyadig 1 year ago
@itzeyadig fuck you :) he took the test and you know what? hes CLEAN :P. Now, lets see whats gonna happen.
1g3org31 1 year ago
@1g3org31 HES PROBLY CLEAN NOW LOL AT THAT TIME PAC WASNT CUZ HE WAS NOT TRYING TO TAKE THAT JOINT
glorydproductions 1 year ago
He sure didn't duck his wife
qbprince23 1 year ago
@qbprince23 didn't duck his wife?what does that mean?
factsism11 1 year ago
The only good hit Mayweather had this year was on his wife. Fcking wife beater. FCK theSPORTSMEN10. GET THIS FAG OFF YOUTUBE
Bakthefckup 1 year ago
@Bakthefckup He's just another hater of manny
qbprince23 1 year ago
@Bakthefckup when did floyd hit his wife this year?
factsism11 1 year ago
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Fck this vid too
pinoyboicola 1 year ago
Fck this vis too
pinoyboicola 1 year ago
Americans supported MARTIN LUTHER KING because he is BLACK. Americans dont support a NIGGER like MAYWEATHER. As simple as that.
KOMIKO007 1 year ago
Than prove yourself right now.. Fight Pacquiao ! Last fight to say you're the BEST.. FIGHT NOW ! Stop Dodging and Duck'n on Pacman.!
slim58769 1 year ago
manny pac is full of shit...you got one guy who wont test (fag) and one dude who cheated (margarito) both promoted by the same scandelous piece of shit arum wow what a trip boy cott manny pac's fights he's fake a paper champ who only fights fighters promoted by the same promoter as his..i aint fooled by this paper champ.who beats a dude named clotty and everyone things he accomplished something what a joke,cotto is joke margarito is a joke pac is a fucken joke
steveazusa 1 year ago 3
You're a joke mate! I don't think there's ever been a fighter who has fought so many top flight boxer's as Pac. He's the one chasing the fight against Mayweather so according to your logic that would make Mayweather a joke? Also, Pac's agreed to Mayweather's testing terms, which are more rigorous than Mosley's showing how ignorant the Mayweather fanbase is. I don't like Mayweather but I'm not gonna make false accusations bout him, claiming he's a shit fighter. Take a leaf and have some respect!
scootaymildo 1 year ago
@scootaymildo check it out POINT IS if someone is saying your a dirty piece of shit let alone to the american public your ass better take any kind of test to prove your clean IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE!!!! understand pac agreed to testing 24 days before the fight.and if you know anything about steriod theres ways to clean the shit out with that much time.point if the fuckers clean he shouldnt make anykind of excuses y in the fuck would anyone walk away from as much money as there.
steveazusa 1 year ago