Agreed about the swarm armies: my Orks had a long string of victories against the more-Obliterators-than-Jesus Iron Warriors forces you used to see back in the day.
As regards Havocs, I will say that one big advantage they have is the ability to hide the heavy weaponry among normal bolter Marines, whereas if you're shooting at Obliterators, you'll be sure to be damaging a valuable target if you cause damage.
If youre starting an army, basing on a battleforce you should use a 5 man squad havocs with 2 hvy bolters and 2 plasma guns. pretty cheap middle ranged firepower against elite and normal infantry. its just a hint, because many players dont directly have the money for some obliterators.
I personally wouldn't take the Havocs with Plasma's, melta's and flamers, because Chaos Chosen can take them, and they can Infaltrate/OUTFLANK. I dont see any reason to take Havoc's, Obliterator's are worth taking because they have quite a few twin-linked weaponary.
y u no even suggest Heavy Bolter? I have no idea what they can do in a real game but i WANT them
LordDrakeMalice 1 month ago
if you dont use the havok can i have it? haha . for real
shigitybum 2 months ago
Agreed about the swarm armies: my Orks had a long string of victories against the more-Obliterators-than-Jesus Iron Warriors forces you used to see back in the day.
As regards Havocs, I will say that one big advantage they have is the ability to hide the heavy weaponry among normal bolter Marines, whereas if you're shooting at Obliterators, you'll be sure to be damaging a valuable target if you cause damage.
Stheno16 5 months ago
Why did i not see this before?? Thx man, excellent advice!
AdrianDrake22 5 months ago
why so much hate for heavy bolters. Have you read the WD sisters of battle chapter approved? Heavy 3 rending *drool *
Thisisnotatoy 5 months ago
i like the dot eye thing it looks creepy it realy fits them
and the white works
wulfenar 5 months ago
I/ve done the Chosen/Havoc plasma spam, works well vs Grey Knights. Havoc are way cheap vs chosen.
ZatoichiBlindSword 5 months ago
If youre starting an army, basing on a battleforce you should use a 5 man squad havocs with 2 hvy bolters and 2 plasma guns. pretty cheap middle ranged firepower against elite and normal infantry. its just a hint, because many players dont directly have the money for some obliterators.
Phile700 5 months ago
I personally wouldn't take the Havocs with Plasma's, melta's and flamers, because Chaos Chosen can take them, and they can Infaltrate/OUTFLANK. I dont see any reason to take Havoc's, Obliterator's are worth taking because they have quite a few twin-linked weaponary.
AdamShifnal 5 months ago
@AdamShifnal because you could take havocs and and chaosen with 4 special weapons n each unit from different force org slots.
TheGreatFireWyrm 5 months ago
@TheGreatFireWyrm plus havocs are cheaper...
Magnaliscous 5 months ago
You sound like Inquisitor Toth of the beginning, from DOW1 :]
AdamShifnal 5 months ago
I already have a chaos marine with lascannon, might as well buy 2 more.
Rather than buying a predator with las spons/turret.
williammoller9 5 months ago
@williammoller9 Also thanks to GazmaTheEternal for answering my request about havocs.
williammoller9 5 months ago
Plasma and melta yes, flamers no. Tanks and elite are what rule 5th, not swarms.
MrMalorian 5 months ago
Your sisters kid gona be a Noise Marine.
knightdrako 5 months ago 11
demonic possession! but -1 on the BS. You're sisters child running vindicators?
TheTheromas 5 months ago