Ok, what reason do you have to think that you have the authority of the word of god? why do you believe everything in the bible when there is evidence of errors, forgeries, contradictions, and flat out lie? I never claimed that I was saved, i just thought that i was. However, due to the fact that I do not believe in a God or afterlife, that lines up with me never being saved, cause i dont need to be. but that doesn't mean i wasn't a christian. i was. and you have no evidence that i was not
@ironcross66106 really? who are you to discredit countless people who have felt what they thought was the love of God in them. That may be your opinion, but who are you to state as a fact what "A truely Born again believer" is (by the way truely is spelled truly)
@ironcross66106 I'm sorry to inform you that you do not have the authority to establish the legitimacy of someone elses religious experiences. I speak from personal experience telling you I felt something back in the day which I was almost certain was the love of god. i was surrounded by people who say they felt the same thing and they are still Xian. Plus, where do you get this idea from that true believe will not EVER turn away, like its a natural law or something. Evidence?
And you can like it, or dislike it all you like, but it will not change the fact that, if you can say now you don't believe ( you never really believed to begin with. )
I don't know if you care what God's word say's, but I'll show you an example of others who thought they were saved.
Clearly you can see thought they were saved, but were not.
If they were saved at one time only to lose their salvation Jesus could not say: I never knew you, because if they were saved at one time He would have known them.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, (I never knew you:) depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
How do we become saved?
Romans 10:9-10
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
REPENT!
FULLGOSPELFIRE 5 months ago
Ok, what reason do you have to think that you have the authority of the word of god? why do you believe everything in the bible when there is evidence of errors, forgeries, contradictions, and flat out lie? I never claimed that I was saved, i just thought that i was. However, due to the fact that I do not believe in a God or afterlife, that lines up with me never being saved, cause i dont need to be. but that doesn't mean i wasn't a christian. i was. and you have no evidence that i was not
smidgeit 1 year ago
A "use to be Christian" is a misnomer.
ironcross66106 1 year ago
@ironcross66106 How is that so? I wish you a terrific day.
junk007stock 1 year ago
@junk007stock
A truely Born again believer that accepts Jesus Christ as their saviour and Lord, feels the love of God in them.
Because at that point the Holy spirit resides in their heart, and they know without a doubt God is real.
So to then say: I don't believer God is real is a prime example of that person never truely being Born again.
ironcross66106 1 year ago
@ironcross66106 really? who are you to discredit countless people who have felt what they thought was the love of God in them. That may be your opinion, but who are you to state as a fact what "A truely Born again believer" is (by the way truely is spelled truly)
smidgeit 1 year ago
@smidgeit
Do you know anyone who would change their mind, that 2 + 2 does not = 4?
Of course not.
Anyone who is truly Born again (truly) they will feel the love of God in them, and will not EVER turn their back on the truth.
Because they will know deep within their heart, they would only be turning to a lie.
I know many atheists love the thought that they were once believers
But, now they have opened their minds and have grown out of the dark ages.
It's just the opposite.
ironcross66106 1 year ago
@ironcross66106 I'm sorry to inform you that you do not have the authority to establish the legitimacy of someone elses religious experiences. I speak from personal experience telling you I felt something back in the day which I was almost certain was the love of god. i was surrounded by people who say they felt the same thing and they are still Xian. Plus, where do you get this idea from that true believe will not EVER turn away, like its a natural law or something. Evidence?
smidgeit 1 year ago
@smidgeit
I use the authority of the word of God.
And you can like it, or dislike it all you like, but it will not change the fact that, if you can say now you don't believe ( you never really believed to begin with. )
I don't know if you care what God's word say's, but I'll show you an example of others who thought they were saved.
Continued on part 2.
ironcross66106 1 year ago
@smidgeit
Clearly you can see thought they were saved, but were not.
If they were saved at one time only to lose their salvation Jesus could not say: I never knew you, because if they were saved at one time He would have known them.
Continued
ironcross66106 1 year ago
@smidgeit
P3
Matt 7:22-23
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, (I never knew you:) depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
How do we become saved?
Romans 10:9-10
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Continued.
ironcross66106 1 year ago
@smidgeit
P3
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
See it's not enough to confess with your mouth, you MUST believe in your heart.
And if as you said, you did believe and feel the love of God, if you did, there is no way you would be able to say today: I don't believe now.
ironcross66106 1 year ago
@junk007stock
There is no such thing.
It's a misnomer like JUMBO shrimp, and Military intelligence.
(Use to be Christian)
Or a (Bible believing atheist).
ironcross66106 1 year ago