Tom "Durrrr" Dwan sucks out with the worst hand against Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies

[sexpistolsdaz]

2:26 ziggy had a flush draw too!!

[coreycunninghamkarl]

They mistook Ziigmunds Js for another suit, that's why the percentages are off

[USMHK]

wtf........?

[tonyt0ny]

Maybe they messed up ilaris suits

[Juntahh]

@tonyt0ny u can see his card on the table near the end of the video. announcers are high or somthing

[tommy444able]

something wrong here i haxton wouldnt have missed the flush

[wlzy]

The actual odds were:

durrrr - ziigmund

preflop: 37% - 63%

flop: 31% - 69%

turn: 80% - 20%

The guy that puts the %s was drunk or high

[ogloccness]

@wlzy

Their commentating was way off too. On the turn, they say ziigmund is drawing to aces but he has outs for the nut flush draw too.

[Foreverguga1]

@wlzy

yea it's amazing. I stated that in a different hand too.

The percentages are miles and miles out of line.

What a fucked up show this is

[cyatuesday]

he has no siut what???? he has spades lol

[taoman89]

I wanna fuck the dealer.

[slimmdogg420]

@taoman89 Just have to make do fucking your knuckles!

[pagz1973]

exactly...zig has the nut flush draw....commentators are idiots.

[fabio05cannavaro]

Ziggy is 69,15% on the flop and 20% on the turn

[atomisten]

@MeShell1010 i heard due to lawsuit reasons it's gonna be down for a month even for european players :/

[atomisten]

@MeShell1010 hahaha yea i feel your pain, happened too many times to me too

[atomisten]

@MeShell1010 btw % are fucked up because the guys typed in 9s instead of 8s, so they thought on flop durr has 2pair, and on turn computer thought he has full house, thats why he was drawing only to an ace

[atomisten]

lol what idiot is the commentator who tries to explain why durrr is favourite??!?! since % is fucked up and ziigmund is the favourite by far

[LAmoZzz]

They also fucked the % on a turn, cause Ziggy was not drawing only to the Aces, he also had live flushdraw so he had about 20% not 5 %...

[atomisten]

@LAmoZzz btw % are fucked up because the guys typed in 9s instead of 8s, so they thought on flop durr has 2pair, and on turn computer thought he has full house, thats why he was drawing only to an ace

[maklay416]

the commentator said zigmund had no suits preflop... is he blind?

[trainwrecked1000]

lol at the commentator trying to blag why dwan is fave

[passaparola1980]

bingo for Dwan!

[shiraq07]

i hate aces in PLO, fishes always crack them on me..

[verve44]

These commentators fucking suck. Man I should be doing this shit. They can't even get simple odds right because they're too busy sucking Tom Dwan's cock.

[drewdonham]

wow toms a favorite here?? is that because you see a 65% next to his name? this makes me want to tell the commentators to just shut the fuck up if your talking out ur ass.

[Cu0r3N4Po13tAn0]

Guys he clearly had the jack of spades...if you see the showdown, u can clearly see that both the jack and the ace are spades so the percentage are def fucked up on the flop

[Iizardkingz]

yeah ok i rewatched and he indeed had the jack of spades... commentators suck balls

[Iizardkingz]

The percentage is correct.. Ziigmund had the jack of clubs, its a mistake, so basically dwan had 19 outs to win the hand..

[whatageeza]

@Iizardkingz You can clearly see at 2:15 that ziigmund has Js.

[Casnazer]

I blame drugs

[Casnazer]

I think the commentary is from a different game... no way you miss read a hand like that with two announcers.

[kalka69]

wierd screen,,,,

[MrFarnon18]

@kalka69 i thought that too but when they both go all in dwan asks zigmund if he has a flush draw and he says he does, thats why dwan says give me a 5. dont know what galfond and the other dude were on about.

[hlwz]

I think they messed up the cards, not the percentages because they say that he's drawing to 2 aces. I guess that jack of spades should be the jack of clubs

[MajereRaist]

@hlwz Check the board where hole cards are shown at somewhere after 2 mins.

[chriswilson98]

phil galfond is a fucktard?! hahahaha!

you'll struggle to name a better PLO player in the world.

[Aedis8]

@chriswilson98 Sam Farha :-)

[SillyGooosth]

And wtf...they fucked the whole game up. Why are they saying ziigmund is drawing to 2 aces after the turn? He can still catch a spade for a flush. Jesus christ, this show is stupid. And the commentator tries to act all intelligent by being like, "Oh yea, Dwan is ahead because...uhh...backdoor straight draw..." Fuckin idiots. There are so many people who understand poker, why are these fucktards the ones who got hired to be commentators?

[SillyGooosth]

What happened is the percentage got flipped. It should be the other way around, where zigmund is 65% and dwan is 35%

[comidaparaperro]

WHhhhhhat!!! weak aces, not suited. WTF he's got AJ of spades, damn these guys are looking at a screen with text, not the real thing

[nayrrrrr]

how is he a fav tards there are so many spades that are gone cuz durr has 2 of them plus he is actually ahead on the flop with a pair l2p poker dumbs



[bierbuik]

@nayrrrrr hahahahha

[ashkibala1]

omaha is a weird game!!

[jezicmickor]

Ziigmund actually had him 70 / 30 % on the flop! This is very embarrassing for a high level poker commenting

[jezicmickor]

This is total bs, even if Ziigmund had completely unsuited aces he's a 58 / 42 % favorite on the flop! What is this?

[SUPERMAXINHO]

Murphy of Robocop and Zorak from Space Ghost, face to face... again

[T24052405]

the commentators are drunk they are talking bullshit

[m0zane]

@T24052405 So you are saying that Phil Galfond doesnt know what he is talking about? :D

[skinnybrown2600]

Ziigmund is 70% almost. Use an omaha odds calculator online u newbs.

[AnimatheGreatlol]

Mm the commentator at one point says "no suit, no connectivity" in regard to Ziggy's hand so they must have had the impression that he had the Jc or something.

[AnimatheGreatlol]

The commentator actually says at one point "He has no suit, no connectivity" implying that Ziggy doesn't actually have two spades. So Durrrr probably was the favourite.

[DuellMeNoob]

commentators should set themselves on fire, for being that fucking stupid. moronic bastards. british english poker commentators? shoot the motherfuckers all, there is not a single one who has a clue about poker... fucking idiots.

[zidane4king]

I think it was a mistake, Zigmund had the A or J of clubs. not spade.

[Seirnflow26]

@zidane4king Look at 2:25, they just messed up the %'s.

[gavurdeiliz]

@zidane4king kormusun aq cocugu 2:24 bak

[andos8888]

horrible dealer!!

[TheHumanAgenda]

@andos8888 dealer?

[TheZeroCool86]

fuckin bad stats on flop... Zygy was way ahead

[Yukhana25]

the commentator is retarded.. he wasnt drawin to an ace on the river.. he needed any spade to win.. fuckin idiot.. and ziigmnd was favourd on that flop.. durr asks him if hes on a flush draw, when they go all in and he said YES.. these fckin faggot commentaors are morons.. faggots!

[bamboo]

@Yukhana25 em, only one of them got confused with the %. The other is Phil Galfond. You should google him. He is considered in the top 3 plo players in the world.........

[daz990]

thats phil galfond aka omgclayaiken commentating off fulltilt hes 1 of best plo players in world im pretty sure he nows what hes talking abt thats why hes on there and your sat watching it on here we abt 3 cents in yr account

[tiamat87]

what a poor play by durrrr regarding his stacksize...

[mm1k3y]

wtf how is tom favourite???? they both have pair and flush draw hahaha only zigg has HIGHER pair and HIGHER flush draw hahahaha if you want proof the commentators dont have a fucking clue there it is!!!^^^ he stutters out errr yeh tom is fave here as u can see cos he got chance for 2 pair or a back door straight draw lmfao they shudnt air this crap hahahaha

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[OptiFreeReplenish]

Pause at 2:14 ziigmund clearly has AJ spades.

[nybombs]

@OptiFreeReplenish I think they fucked up the heads up display. If you hear Phil Galfound commentating, he said "His aces are really weak, he has no suit, no connectivity." So... I'm assuming perhaps my Ziggy has something like AJ club/spades.

[BufasB]

@nybombs yea, youre right, but at 2:14 you can clearly see ziggys aj of spades, but im guessing they saw it as a club/spade and calculated it like a club/spade. i apologize for my horrible english :p

[FreakishDonQuixote]

ziggy doesn't have a flushdraw, the graphics are fucked up.

[paddyxxxxx]

@FreakishDonQuixote

sure he has. look again...

[cod2qwerty]

THE % ARE INVERTED ZIIGMUND HAS THE 65% DURR THE 35

[martysparty2042]

Ziigmund is a 70% favorite on the flop. He still has a 20% chance after the turn.

[PhantomXII]

How is dwan a favorite on the flop? he needs runner-runner for the low straight (6-7-8-9-10) and the high straight (9-10-J-Q-K) or any 5-8-10-Q

Ziigmund needs the rest of the board to be blanks or any As or any spade...

[the3bigreddevils]

@suppaman12 wOW LOL, it was an error. ziggy was a solid favorite u doushe

[ruemlang89]

haha so true! zigi was about 70 p.c fav on the flop...tom even asked ziggy, before they turned over their hands, whether he had a flush draw as well, to which zigmund answered with a yes, which was why tom seemed disgusted about that @ 1.47...

[neotahngarth]

That wasn't even that bad.

[calvin1392]

sucking out usually implies he has the worst hand...

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[galeng]

Video should be renamed "I'm bad at math and think this is a suck out"

[mmnmnmmmnmmn]

i dont get it, he's a favorite? ziggy had the higher flush draw, they fucked the %'s up

[samueljue]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn and the funny thing was that the commentator really botches it up too by saying dwan was the favorite and dwan was the only one to have a flush draw. Really bad all around

[jasper9090]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn Its very likely they replaced the Jack of clubs for the Jack of spades.

[massakr]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn

galfond said he has NO suits, so jack of spades is sumthing else.

[ogirdora]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn 3,2,4,3

[mateusek11]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn durr had an streight(dont know how to spell it) with out one card thats why

[toudal89]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn they didnt fuck anything up. preflop ziigmund was the favorite, but when dwan pairs his 5 on the flop he has the advantage. ziigmund needs runner runner for a straight or a spade for the flush, but if those dont come dwan will have won the hand with a pair of 5's. the pair of fives is more likely to win since it is more likely that 2 blanks will be turned over than anything.

[fbruvik]

@toudal89 Idiot.. Ziigmund has AA which is btter than 55. It is first when Durrr hit trips on the turn that he has the best hand, but all the money went in on the flop where ziigmund is a huge favorite. He has the best hand AND has the best flushdraw. Ziigmund is 63.36% preflop and 69.15% on the flop.

[toudal89]

@fbruvik yeah i forgot about the aces there:p

[stiangh]

@toudal89 LOL u FU retard!!!!! zigmund has 2 pair and flush draw on flop u MORON. dwan has pair of 5. wtf u are the biggest idiot EVER

[toudal89]

@stiangh ziigmund only has the pair of aces and a flushdraw dude. and as i said in a previous comment i forgot that pair of aces. the percentages were off i get that now, but if you had taken the time to read my entire initial comment you would know that the only reason i said what i did is i didnt take note of the aces. and besides ziigmund makes his 2 pair on the turn, NOT on the flop.

[kikolovex3]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn maybe because he does have a pair?

[TomiAk47]

@kikolovex3

what about ziigmund havin an overpair?

[cycln33]

Yeah I think Zigmund had an ace of clubs not an ace of spades

[testlertank]

@cycln33 2:25 looks like the ace of spades to me

[NeRo84]

@cycln33 The TV production team fucked the hand up for the commentary team, the graphic is right, the precentages are not. The hand Ilari has is AJ of spades, you hear Tom ask Ilari before hands are turned over if he has a flush draw and Ilari says yes. This was a huge suckout for sure.

[bretzky78]

you just cant win against durrr :P

[swingdocta]

the hole cards they show us must be wrong, because durrrs flush draw is worthless except for taking away some outs for ziiigmunds redraw

[cantescape1987]

Are those commentators blind or what?

[skinnybrown2600]

ziigmund is like an 70% fav on flop.

[andrewmcgheeee]

@skinnybrown2600 no. they got the suits wrong on the graphic. listen to Galfond at the beginning. He says Ziigmund has no suits

[secretguyoz2]

@skinnybrown2600 you couldnt be more wrong

[ryssennikko]

there must someting wrong in the hand when they go all in. because Ziigmund does't just have 2 outs he could catch a spade as well right ? like a 20 % chance