OK it was not physical assult because a)no one randomly tackled him and he pretty much dragged that dude to the ground and b)he was asked to leave and decided to become aggressive first, with the running past ppl and all. And btw we can all stop bashing Allen. He lost! MOVE ON! And all the republican idiots that think this is funny or was the right this it really wasnt either because they weren't really civil in speech.
In all my harsh words on Allen, I give it to him for having the dignity to concede today to Webb and not put our country through weeks of bitterness over this race.
Bye bye thugs!!! You're a disgrace to our government. Pack your bags and get the hell out of the Senate. The people called your sh*t brown and stinky!!!
Sheesh. Enough with the macho BS. If it had been a woman you'd all be singing a different tune. But since it's a guy the whole 'men orta be tuff lahk me' crap gets trotted out. Go read a flipping statute. It's assault.
That's not really assault, but jesus, when you do that, you give hecklers attention and draw attention to their claims, and look like a thug yourself in the process. Idiotic.
That assault thing works both ways, he shoved a staffer just before this video starts. Take a look at the Fredricksburg Freelancer newspaper for the events that lead up to this>
This is weak. What has this country come to when the public gets so upset when someone who clearly deserves to get his ass beat but only gets mildly physically removed?
This was no big deal. Nowadays everyone wants to press charges and sue. What pussies! This is just as bad as no tolerance policies on fighting in school. If a bully messes with my kid I tell my kid to kick his ass. Period.
He "clearly" deserves to get his ass beat for speaking? Regardless of whether or not he was justified in causing a disruption, do you genuinely think it's OK to respond to words with violence?
I'm so thrilled that you're responsible for children.
"respond to words with violence"...I'm sorry but that was not violent. I do think its OK in certain situations to respond to words through physical means.
Like jnmunsey said, this is just pathetic. People want to cry, press charges and sue for anything. If this heckler was doing no wrong, as many of you seem to believe, why did he leave? He made no effort to stand his ground.
violence, n. "an act of aggression (as one against a person who resists)"
He "made no effort to stand his ground" because he was just put in a headlock and thrown to the ground. There was a clear threat of escalating violence, and I didn't see any cops stepping in to restore order. I never said the heckler wasn't doing anything wrong, but there's a big, big difference between disrupting a press conference and assault and battery.
Well if we are going that route then the heckler was, by your definition, violent. A type of aggression happens to be verbal. He was being verbally aggressive, thus violent.
He was responded to in a physically aggressive, thus violent, manner. I have no problem with that.
If you think that responding to words with fists is appropriate, you have a best a very childlike set of morals. Literally childlike, as in "Billy called me a mean name so I socked him!" This is not how adults behave, let alone civilized people. Fortunately, we have police and a functioning judicial system to help corral people like you and the Senator's goons. Go ask a cop sometime if he finds escalating public violence agreeable.
Do you *know* what fascism is? This isn't fascism...it's a couple of thugs that Allen should have promptly distanced himself from. Instead he defended their actions. I have to commend the guy that got thrown out for keeping his cool. I would have knocked the old fart on his ass when he first put his hands on me.
Since when is it okay for a citizen to slam another against the wall for getting on their nerves? He wasn't even using threatening or abusive language. I think it's very telling how everyone is just standing around allowing it to take place and then go on about their business.
Assault? Thugs? WTF??? What security gated country club streets did you guys grow up on seriously? I saw no punches, no kicking, no body slamming, no weapons, nor even 1 drop of blood. I DID see someone who has the right to ask a question and also the right to leave a situation where he is unwanted before escalating it himself. Leave the street terms for the REAL street situations you pussys.
I would bet everything I won that if vdiddyinthecity were assaulted by civilians in a hotel lobby, he'd feel different.
This is assault, plain and simple. That these people work for or are somehow connected to a politician doesn't give them special rights to lay hands on citizens. They're not cops, security guards, hotel staff, marshalls or secret service. They're just guys who think they can use physical violence to intimidate. Thugs.
And how is possible that this Allen guy represents anything thing other than a pile of dung surrounded by a bunch of flies. Racist hack - disgrace to America!! Get him out of office!!!
The heckler was kind of an idiot--but by no means did he deserve to be physically assaulted by Allen's thugs. I heard he plans to sue the people who attacked him. I hope he does.
He expected civil treatment? Thats not how you ask a senator a question. Deceptive title btw. Rename it to Agressive student put in check by allen staffers.
It's hard to ask a nice question about an ugly event, if you want a truthful answer.
Normally, I'd defend a politician's (or anyone's) right to keep their personal information personal. Allen has made a career and a campaign on stripping others of their rights under the guise of "the sanctity of marriage." How sanctified is marriage to someone who's had more than one of them? WHY are his divorce records sealed? Did he commit domestic abuse?
OK it was not physical assult because a)no one randomly tackled him and he pretty much dragged that dude to the ground and b)he was asked to leave and decided to become aggressive first, with the running past ppl and all. And btw we can all stop bashing Allen. He lost! MOVE ON! And all the republican idiots that think this is funny or was the right this it really wasnt either because they weren't really civil in speech.
gilarenas 5 years ago
In all my harsh words on Allen, I give it to him for having the dignity to concede today to Webb and not put our country through weeks of bitterness over this race.
rev24 5 years ago
it's OK... Macaca Allen is history now and can slither back to whatever rock he crawled out of...
poisonidea82 5 years ago
Bye bye thugs!!! You're a disgrace to our government. Pack your bags and get the hell out of the Senate. The people called your sh*t brown and stinky!!!
rev24 5 years ago
Sheesh. Enough with the macho BS. If it had been a woman you'd all be singing a different tune. But since it's a guy the whole 'men orta be tuff lahk me' crap gets trotted out. Go read a flipping statute. It's assault.
biofh 5 years ago
That's not really assault, but jesus, when you do that, you give hecklers attention and draw attention to their claims, and look like a thug yourself in the process. Idiotic.
coldstatic 5 years ago
This is assault. They need to be taken to court.
ombilicdes 5 years ago
Private property, and an agressor approaching an elected official. Yeah...I say that he has a case.
doubleokevin 5 years ago
That assault thing works both ways, he shoved a staffer just before this video starts. Take a look at the Fredricksburg Freelancer newspaper for the events that lead up to this>
thumbtack1349 5 years ago
Yeah, but apart from how supportive you are of your children... since when did politicos have the right to throw members of the public around?
badnewswade 5 years ago
This is weak. What has this country come to when the public gets so upset when someone who clearly deserves to get his ass beat but only gets mildly physically removed?
This was no big deal. Nowadays everyone wants to press charges and sue. What pussies! This is just as bad as no tolerance policies on fighting in school. If a bully messes with my kid I tell my kid to kick his ass. Period.
jnmunsey 5 years ago
He "clearly" deserves to get his ass beat for speaking? Regardless of whether or not he was justified in causing a disruption, do you genuinely think it's OK to respond to words with violence?
I'm so thrilled that you're responsible for children.
EwoktheMoid 5 years ago
"respond to words with violence"...I'm sorry but that was not violent. I do think its OK in certain situations to respond to words through physical means.
Like jnmunsey said, this is just pathetic. People want to cry, press charges and sue for anything. If this heckler was doing no wrong, as many of you seem to believe, why did he leave? He made no effort to stand his ground.
PalmShaun55 5 years ago
violence, n. "an act of aggression (as one against a person who resists)"
He "made no effort to stand his ground" because he was just put in a headlock and thrown to the ground. There was a clear threat of escalating violence, and I didn't see any cops stepping in to restore order. I never said the heckler wasn't doing anything wrong, but there's a big, big difference between disrupting a press conference and assault and battery.
EwoktheMoid 5 years ago
Well if we are going that route then the heckler was, by your definition, violent. A type of aggression happens to be verbal. He was being verbally aggressive, thus violent.
He was responded to in a physically aggressive, thus violent, manner. I have no problem with that.
PalmShaun55 5 years ago
If you think that responding to words with fists is appropriate, you have a best a very childlike set of morals. Literally childlike, as in "Billy called me a mean name so I socked him!" This is not how adults behave, let alone civilized people. Fortunately, we have police and a functioning judicial system to help corral people like you and the Senator's goons. Go ask a cop sometime if he finds escalating public violence agreeable.
EwoktheMoid 5 years ago
haha george "macacca" allen, what a piece of shit!
dwyerb 5 years ago
looks like fascism to me
sunflower95077 5 years ago
Do you *know* what fascism is? This isn't fascism...it's a couple of thugs that Allen should have promptly distanced himself from. Instead he defended their actions. I have to commend the guy that got thrown out for keeping his cool. I would have knocked the old fart on his ass when he first put his hands on me.
jdpainter 5 years ago
Since when is it okay for a citizen to slam another against the wall for getting on their nerves? He wasn't even using threatening or abusive language. I think it's very telling how everyone is just standing around allowing it to take place and then go on about their business.
wndyshrmp 5 years ago
Assault? Thugs? WTF??? What security gated country club streets did you guys grow up on seriously? I saw no punches, no kicking, no body slamming, no weapons, nor even 1 drop of blood. I DID see someone who has the right to ask a question and also the right to leave a situation where he is unwanted before escalating it himself. Leave the street terms for the REAL street situations you pussys.
testchecker 5 years ago
"real street situations" - funny
Sorry buddy- you can't just physically confront someone no matter what yahoos your assoicated with. You get security to deal with the matter!
rev24 5 years ago
I would bet everything I won that if vdiddyinthecity were assaulted by civilians in a hotel lobby, he'd feel different.
This is assault, plain and simple. That these people work for or are somehow connected to a politician doesn't give them special rights to lay hands on citizens. They're not cops, security guards, hotel staff, marshalls or secret service. They're just guys who think they can use physical violence to intimidate. Thugs.
biofh 5 years ago
Actually if they showed Stark shoving a staffer out of the way first, then exiting the door that starts this clip you would understand much better.
thumbtack1349 5 years ago
Hahaha... now you're getting personal... democracy at its finest... Allen's gestapo slamming people against the wall!
felton424 5 years ago
are comments now screened???
rev24 5 years ago
startin' to think so
mercurirgo 5 years ago
Thugs in action!!!
And how is possible that this Allen guy represents anything thing other than a pile of dung surrounded by a bunch of flies. Racist hack - disgrace to America!! Get him out of office!!!
rev24 5 years ago
senator allen spat on all of america..
zshiek 5 years ago
The heckler was kind of an idiot--but by no means did he deserve to be physically assaulted by Allen's thugs. I heard he plans to sue the people who attacked him. I hope he does.
tlj362 5 years ago
He expected civil treatment? Thats not how you ask a senator a question. Deceptive title btw. Rename it to Agressive student put in check by allen staffers.
vdiddyinthecity 5 years ago
Um, wasn't it the Allen supporters being agressive? it looks like you're ignoring the truth.
CopyboyVideo 5 years ago
It's hard to ask a nice question about an ugly event, if you want a truthful answer.
Normally, I'd defend a politician's (or anyone's) right to keep their personal information personal. Allen has made a career and a campaign on stripping others of their rights under the guise of "the sanctity of marriage." How sanctified is marriage to someone who's had more than one of them? WHY are his divorce records sealed? Did he commit domestic abuse?
turbojugendNYC 5 years ago
Senator Allen spit on his wife?
florian116 5 years ago