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  • w windows 7 !!!!!!! :)

  • Thank you, my MBP died a week ago and I finally found this video, thank you.

  • I would still take mac :)

    Because HP DV series built quality is very poor... It wouldnt last a year...

  • mac computers are made for noobs who dont know nothing about computers, that is all about it !

    There is no virus on mac because nobody want to hack macos...

    you poor bastards

  • You get what you pay for and that is a better experience all around, I'm saving up for the new i7 15in Macbook Pro, I think 2more weeks I should have it, this will be my 1st Mac/Apple Product period!

  • pc get virusses by getting on porn sites.... we are healthy!!! ;)

    when mac'rs are saying they don't get virusses.... i bet they wear glasses and bearly see the sun...:p

  • Another truly obnoxious thing about Mac laptops, is the heat. They aren't properly vented, and typically all aluminum, so the whole thing heats up and helps ensure you wont be having any kids. I had one, and it was truly annoying. I switched from a MBP to a DV9700t. Long live the 9700t.

  • dumbass get a cooling pad

  • PC computers break down and get viruses because their users don't maintain them. Complaining about a PC running slow is usually like complaining your car engine is acting up- but you refuse to get an oil change.

    And Mac's are resistant to viruses due to their SOFTWARE, the OS. Meaning the DV9700t is easily as resistant as a MBP.

    Oh, and my 9700t has dual SATA 7200's (120 GB). Rawk.

  • u guys dont get the point. PC gets viruses all the time, what about mac it doent. Mac dont break down all the time but pc yes it does

  • You guys are missing the point. It doesn't have to be a BMW, maybe a Lexus would be a better example though. A Lexus rarely breaks down, like a Mac. The PC on the other hand is like a Kia: cheap, but still gets you from one point to another, albeit a little late from the break downs! lol

  • well well well,my pc has never broken down!!!i be lucky....but dont be hatin on me im savin up for a mac i just like them better!!!!.....:)

  • Sorry Trevan1011,

    You'll be hard pressed to find someone who switched from a Mac to a PC and liked it. PC's new windows 7 is trying to be more like a Mac, one of their top people even said that......oh snap! the truth hurts! lol

  • Macs = BMW

    PCs = Kia

    Kia is a nice car, it's cheap, but it you need to give it a lot of attention since it breaks down often. BMWs are expensive but rarely breaks down and rides well.

    All True. Peace out!

  • OMG, you never owned a bmw have you?

    I had one and a buddy of mine owned an audi and both break down like you wouldn't believe.

  • Fuck BMW if anything Macs are like Fords cus they're both made in America and when one breaks down everybody says they're the worst brand ever. Plus people say that both brands are overpriced for what you get

  • this is bad :D

    HP Pavilion = porsche cayenne

    Macb Pro= Bmw X6

    u get more power with the porsche than the lexus, but the lexus had a lot of luxurious stuff we don't always want. But ofcourse the less complex (primitive :p) the less faults...

    my english is bad :p

  • OMG... Its Preference! Someone might like mac another person pc! A person who has had a mac their whole life would most likely like mac more! a person who had pc their whole life will most likely pc more...

    Someone could have a mac their whole life could switch to pc and love it! Someone who had pc their whole life could switch to mac and love it!

    What i'm trying to say is...it's preference!

  • i dont like pc ui...my sister got an hp 17 and i got a macbookpro... guess wat....the second month my sister had problems with virus and mine was like the day i got it

  • maybe ur sister should be less retarded? just maybe? like maybe keep backups of your data make save pionts use good anti virus program AND mayeb not click every link out there. i have never gotten any virus that my anti virus didn't pick up and fix almost instantly. i guess if ur not a fan of learning to use a pc properly then a mac is perfect for you. sorry that im being bitchy.

  • yea but how long before that awful pc slows down? or how long before it gets a virus

  • Some people thing Viruses happen like hot cakes, in fact i've owned my HP w2207 for about 5 years now and not a single virus, along with the Laptop, HP dv9700t and no virus, I've had that for 7 years, and my oldest computer, windows 98, I got it when the OS came out and NO VIRUSES. If your safe you don't get them

  • Vista doesn't "slow down" like that. Viruses are seriously a thing you get if you download weird software or porn. Honestly, if you don't know at least the basic mechanics behind how this stuff works, why just prove to the world that Macs are for computer-illiterates.

  • Wow, you're really mad at Apple eh? I've had PC's before and Macs are truly better. Have you ever owned or even spent the time to use a Mac before? I used to be like you. I'll leave you with this:

    Macs = BMW

    PCs = Kia

    Kia is a nice car, it's cheap, but it you need to give it a lot of attention since it breaks down often. BMWs are expensive but rarely breaks down and rides well.

    All True.  Peace out!

  • That's a stupid comparison, really. Unless BMW's and Kia's have the SAME engines, the SAME steering system, the SAME everything, just a different outer shell, then as far as hardware goes they're the same. Mac hardware and PC hardware is the same, only difference is typically the Macs have older and less powerful versions (i.e. nVidea cards). The OS on Apple's side is good, but Windows is just as productive (excluding 32-bit Vista).

  • looooool love the geek fight!! but yes i have an hp and i love it mac is for gay people

  • Mac is for people who just want it to work and have no problems.

  • Except for all those times... that Mac users encounter a problem...

  •  think is different

  • great video!

  • Only an ignorant compare a Mac to a PC by its specifications and not by the OS.

  • Windows 7. Enough said.

  • Snow Leopard.  End of this threat.

  • Snow Leopard doesn't have shit on 7.

  • I really don't understand what you mean by "doesn't have shit"..

    and everybody knows that windows 7 is vista but a little more polished..

  • Meaning as in next to Win7, Snow Leopard is an insignificant upgrade.

    And only morons say it's a little more polished Vista. Every OS upgrade, including Snow Leopard, is just an upgrade, it's obviously not completely new, so essentially you can argue that it's just polished as long as you accept that that is how ALL upgrades work.

    And no matter what you want to call it, that doesn't change the massive improvements 7 brings as a change from Vista.

  • I can't believe how people like you still faithful to a company such as Microsoft who has fucked up and ripped off millios of users and companies lately.

  • Says the guy that trusts in Apple, the biggest cult scam since religion.

  • late response is late.

  • Didn't come up on my comments list (Youtube wins again), so bite me.

  • go put in a search for "WWDC 2009" and look for the video with snow leopard and Windows it should b in the second page! and go look at ur improvments for windows 7

  • I watched all of it. It's just not the same without Steve Jobs advertising how other companies suck to make his own look better.

  • yea ik , its weird

  • even if you used the money to upgrade your crappy HP, it still won't as well as a mac. Kinda like upgrading your Kia to make it run like a vette---it's still a Kia. The value of a mac is the sum of its parts and how well it works, not like a frankenstein mis-mash of stuff put together......that's the truth guys!!! I've own both PC and Macs and Macs are truly better. Like someone said earlier: "you get what you pay for" peace out!

  • if i may add to ur argument... Macs can also install windows vista...can a HP install Mac OSX........yeah i didnt think so.....

  • If you need to install Windows on a Mac, then that just proves how insufficient and pathetic OS X really is. If you get a PC, all you need is Windows, and with 7 coming out, there will no longer be any excuse for you fanboys to yell and cry about Vista's flaws... which is currently the only standing reason people dislike Windows. When XP was in style, this wasn't even a debate.

  • OSX is the most advanced system in the world windos is one if not the worst OS... Leopard is by far better and faster than windows..."when XP was in style..." UNDERLINE WHEN!!! were talking about vista. windows 7 is the same thing as vista except that it has a new name and i few upgrades.....OMG what a improvement!

  • Windows 7 isn't just a few upgrades, it's a lot of very big upgrades. Faster, better core processor usage, more powerful, no problems, no crashes, no hiccups, and new features and finally some of those upgrades that you're thinking of. In contrast to Vista, it's a huge improvement, and currently standing as the best version of Windows to yet be made. OS X has nothing on Windows 7. Like I said, Vista is the only reason people complain... this wasn't the case with XP, and won't be with 7.

  • LMAO a PC that doesnt crash boy that will b the day. I have a PC and a Mac and a Mac is faster and more efficent than a PC...all those things that are going into windows 7 have been on the mac already and have been perfected. And im talking about Vista not XP so i dont care about XP were talking about Vista. All those things have been on a Mac for some time now. Microsoft is just playing Catch Up with Apple because they cant compete with OSX Snow Leopard will be even better than Windows 7 by far

  • A PC that doesn't crash... that's so 2007, when Vista came out. In case you didn't know, Vista doesn't crash if the computer isn't build out of plastic Doritos. It temporarily has programs stop responding sometimes, but they always recover, extremely rarely do they crash, and that's not the OS's fault. Good programs never crash on my computer.

    Windows 7 has certain features, like side-by-side windows, that OS X doesn't have. Compared to OS X, Windows 7 is multitasking God.

  • Microsoft isn't playing catch-up, they're playing don't screw up again, because Vista was a failure on their part. That's why I'm using XP as an example. History repeats itself, ever heard that term before? Vista is the ONLY thing you have to bitch about at this point, and 7 will rectify that.

    Snow Leopard is meaningless next to Win7.

  • Dude omg wtf r u talking about history and how it repeats it self?!?! wow dude were talking about now

  • LOL multitasking God then how would u explain Spaces on a Mac?!?! and whats this shit about plastic doritos? PCs are plastic stupid mac's are ALUMINUM!!! dumbass!! and speaking about Programs OSX has the best software made that doesnt crash... mayb u should learn about mac's b4 u talk about them... 90% of all PC's are plastic there is ONLY 1 mac that is plastic!

  • Wow you seem to be incapable of understanding very basic English. My whole point was that the only reason people are hating on Windows so much is because of Vista, which is now, which is why right now people are hating on Windows. Get it? It's really not hard to understand what I'm trying to say, and I really don't know how to make it any more clear.

  • Plastic Doritos = a sarcastic way to say terrible and cheap (like those $600 pieces of shit), I didn't realize you can't understand something so simple. And just to be clear, certain PC models are made out of aluminum or some kind of metal too. It all depends on who you chose to buy from.

    OS X does crash, not often, but it does, same as Windows, maybe even same frequency. And I know it's not at all often, but guess what, same with Windows. Maybe you should learn English before you talk at all.

  • well im talking about a WHOLE NOT PART OF A COMPUTER being made of Aluminum...and wtf r u talking about $600?!!?!?! and im not saying OSX doesnt crash but what im telling u is that it is a better system and better structured than Microsoft... i do know english dumbass isn't that the language that im typing in!?!?!? MORON

  • and what im trying to tell u is that Microsoft is GARBAGE!!! I dont care why people hate it or not STUPID LISTING TO WHAT I AM TELLING U!!!! OSX IS A BETTER SOFTWARE!! so shut the F*** up about why they hate it or not

  • There are even some PCs that are built to withstand impact and high pressure, like I said, all about which you buy.

    $600 computers? You know they do exist right? And those are exactly the ones that crash and fail at running Vista.

    Well Windows 7 is built on the same thing Vista is, and it's pretty damn stable, so I'm not sure how much you know about code to tell me that OS X is actually built on better stuff.

  • And if you know English so well, why is it that I need to explain everything so many times? Why is it that you don't get something as simple as me saying "$600 pieces of shit"?

    You're saying "OSX IS A BETTER SOFTWARE!! so shut the F*** up". Great, well that's nice. How about some reasons with proof? So far all you said is bullshit stereotypes that haven't been true for years, or you're picking on flaws unique to Vista, which doesn't make up the world of PCs at this point.

  • So until you actually use your brain to explain something true and logical, all I have to say in response is "STUPID LISTING TO WHAT I AM TELLING U!!!!! MICROSOFT IS A BETTER SOFTWARE THEN OS X!! so shut the F*** up"

  • not to say you don't have a point, cuz macs can be ridiculous in price especially with laptops, but part of that 2k will be used to fix your shitty HP in 2 years.  nice vid. 4/5

  • lenovo beats both

  • wait why are you comparing the last gen macbook pro with the lastest hp?

  • This was current gen Mac Pro at time of filming. I believe it states this was correct at time of filming. After this time passed I cannot be held accountable. Would it really matter anyways? Macs are nice but are way over priced. If I do one new, same result would be. If Apple would have lowered their price they could have dominated MSFT. However, they did not so prepare for pent up pc demand to once again go return to windows. (when windows 7 emerges) Thanks for watching!

  • Its simple, you will get for what you pay for.

    its your choice really. pay extra $1000 and get a solid aluminium performance laptop or a cheap crappy laptop..

    my choice is, I will go for that solid aluminium block.

    oh yes. I do have HP laptops :-)

  • i love cky!

  • you are right, they do have similar specs but the mac is better not because of the specs but because of its operating system. Not only is Mac OS x just more user friendly, faster, and innovative, it also includes awesome programs like ichat, imovie, and garageband. Face it windows movie maker sucks really bad, and that is pretty much the only entertaining program pcs come with, i mean they label volume control as fucking entertainment. what you pay for is better software that works better.

  • but you forgot, we can use the spare $2000 we saved on the pc to get better movie/music editing software. so while you may start your computer 10-20 seconds faster than mine, i have some spare change to play with. so in my opinion, it's definitly worth the wait.

  • ok, now try to turn on the laptop's at the same time....

    Mac can fall asleep waiting for the hp....

    cheers

  • get a mac!

  • I was an arrogant full of cynicism pc user my self once I considered Mac to be just beautiful toys .. .. Nowdays.. Whether you believe it or not I changed my mind after I bought a beautiful aluminioum first Gen Iphone I then realized what all those craze mac users talked about.. I am planning to buy a Macbook pro next week but I am going to change the hard drive into a better one. With 7200rpm

  • My HP's power jack became loose, HP wants $398US to fix it. It overheats and looses performance.

    The Mac's power adapter is MAGNETIC, it cant become loose.. When the lights dim, the keyboard lights up (I DJ) so big plus. The macbook pro due to is Aluminum casing, runs so much cooler.

    And MAC OSX is such a better operating system in SO many ways, but u can still put XP on a MacBook Pro! But not the other way around!

    So you should rethink your comparison..

    btw google loose power jack

  • but do those poind justify adding nearly 2000 dollars to the price?

    if you ask me no, no it doesnt

    and I know that mac OSX is a good OS but what does it have over windows XP other than the fact that it doesnt get many viruses and it has iLife?

    because of windows' popularity there are a lot more programs and games made for it rather than making those programs either only for or atleast compatible with macs.

    but I would like to get a macbook pro but to me its just not worth the price for its specs

  • U can put Leopard on a PC GO LOOK IT UP. I HAVE IT ON MY SHITTY OLD COMPUTER. It runs fine on it. Duel boot XP and Leopard Oh yeah!

  • dude, laptops can game! I can play Crysis on my laptop lol

  • macs run better with 2 gigs of ram because they are designed to run like that and the hard disk on the mac is so much because they have solid state drives and also run quicker than normal

  • ya on paper pc's always look way better because they have more power for less money. but u forgot one statistic. i bet the mac would outlast the pc cuz mac's don't break. i'm still using my old ibook g4 from 5 years ago and it's still as good as new. my pc laptop from 5 years ago which actually had more ram and prcessing only lasted 3 years

  • people don't need Modems anymore......even heard of wifi? Pubic wifi are free now a days.. dumbest comparsion I ever seen.

  • its not hype. its people seeing better results after switching to apple.

  • you can tell this guy is a gamer....you saved 2,000 bucks? what to do with it? save up and use it for the next computer purchase after the one you just bought will die in like a year or 2. HP will love to screw you over and use you over and over again =)

  • Guys, u buy a p.c. all nice & stuff, but eventually in about 1 or 2 years the p.c. is going to suffer from crashes, viruses, and other threads that make your p.c. slower. The longer u have a PC, the slower it gets.

  • macs never crash. ive had one for about, 6 monts the black 2gig ram and 250 gig hard drive, and its crashed about twice. my mom has a h dell (no idea what model) but i do know that it is the same thing memory wise, and the first 3 MONTHS it crashed about 6 times. it has vista... vista sucks

  • i have had vista home premium on an hp pavilion e75 pc for a year and a half and i havn't had one problem ! never crashed, no virusus and no fukin around with it |!! ive had vista on an acer aspire 5535 for 5 months and it only gave me trouvle once but it was my fault and it only took a system restore to fix it !! And my mate has a mac laptop (not sure what it is but its new) for 2 months and it keeps fuking up !!! your mum must be a dumb shit with computers, tell her to take better care of it

  • From your professional expertise I come to the conclusion that you are probably using you precious cheap computer for word documents and spread sheets, right? How long does it take you to power up that e75 of yours? Have you heard of etiquette and manners when talking to people...probably not!

  • sorry but i have to say...good luck on gaming on that so called "dedicated" graphics that the HP has to offer... the 8600m gt 512mb gddr3 easily out performs the 8600m gs (baha) by a long shot. Im an owner of a macbook pro and can run call of duty 5 (world at war) full res, 4 times aa and i get fuck-all lag. Now try and even attempt that on the hp... FAIL! ... tho it would be a pretty impressive powerpoint presentation i'd give u that.

  • gaming? laptos are not for gaming :S

  • cool vid... but i think you miss the connection and expansion capabilities for the macbook Pro and the HP...:

    Macbook...

    One FireWire 400 port at up to 400 Mbps

    One FireWire 800 port at up to 800 Mbps

    15-inch MacBook Pro: Two 480-Mbps USB 2.0 ports

    17-inch MacBook Pro: Three 480-Mbps USB 2.0 ports

    ExpressCard/34 slot

    Kensington cable lock slot

  • The HP xb3000 Notebook Expansion Base (sold separately) connects your dv9700t to peripherals, including a monitor if you want a desktop experience. four USB 2.0 (without fingerprint reader), a 5-in-1 digital media card reader, an ExpressCard/54, an RJ-11, an IEEE 1394 FireWire, an S-Video, and a Consumer IR. Intel Pro/Wireless 4965AGN WLAN with Bluetooth is optional.

  • nice comparison! apple's pricing is unbelievable.

  • for all you pc haters. i happened to install OSX Leopard on my dv9700t. FULL OSX LEOPARD with latest updates. stop this pc vs mac nonsense. it's all preference

  • and you mac haters needa stop hatin on mac. OSX is an excellent os. FREE OSX!!

  • Even at it's most expensive the dv9700t is still around $100 less than the cheapest 17" macbook pro (includes a 2.6ghz cpu, 640gb, and blu-ray). And if you're a mac head just install OS X on your hp. The dv9700t is rated one of the most compatible laptops. So you get all the benefits of a macbook pro at half the price. Being a student, I'm all about cheap efficiency. And the macbook air is shyt. It has the features of a fingernail at the price of an hdtv. Its like being the coolest anorexic kid.

  • are you stupid ? leopard never(rarely)crashes and it looks perfectly beautiful

  • windows sucks

  • I like Macs, but the price is insane.

  • idk much about it but i love my hp dv6985 and my friend hates his mac cuz it has quality issues...

  • Myself i would have the hp and well i have one coming tomorrow in fact. The apple seems very pricey for what it is, and i have never liked apple. Finally as a student i am always after the best deal and in this case there is only one winner HP.

  • HP dv series' have impressed me GREATLY. My grandmother got one, my mom, my dad both have one. I am getting one and my uncle plans to buy one. all in different models. But the DV series has blown me away in terms of light/casual gaming, entertainment and quality/performance.

  • anybody who knew anything about mac's new that 17inch was WAY over priced i still like my little macbook though. :)

  • Talking about operation system, if someone say OSX is better than windows, then I'd agree. I used new iMac for one month and I WAS more than happy. but,, from a hardware point of view, I can't find decent reason why we should pay 1800 bucks more for almost same spec hardware.

  • lol good vid

  • To johnmonk66,

  • I've been using DELL inspiron 1200 for more than three years so far and it has been royal all the time. So, 1800 bucks more to get the bloody quality? or to get the nice design. you choose.

  • Mac doesn't invest much to make better cpu or videocard, they just buy and assemble them. that's it. You said mac is quality. I've been using pc laptop more than 5 years and many pc laptop users around. No one bought additional WARRENTY. No one even talk about buying or worring about not buying WARRENTY using pc laptop. Since PC laptop has high quality standard already.

  • apple rocks

  • the macs are made to look more "elegant" so that the average person would think that its a better computer

  • if you fully equiped a hyundai so it had everything a bmw had, but at half the price, would that prove you were cool driving around in your hyundai?

    mac is quality.

    but so is panasonic

    so is lenovo

    but just about everything else is a dressed up hyundai.

    but if you did same comparison between hp and lenovo, the lenovo would seem just as expensive as the mac.

    you can't compare dell to a real computer like a mac or a toughbook or lenovo.

    the end

  • No one say Hyundai and BMW are equal 'cuase both have 'fully equipped'. Reason is simple, the metal both company use to make their engine is DIFFERENT. The amount of money they invest to make safer and stronger car is DIFFERENT, which can't be seen from outside or through their brochures. However, laptop, mac and other pc laptop companies use SAME chips, SAME memories, SAME video card, SAME display.

  • if everything is the same, why can't i run mac osx on my panasonic laptop?

  • ok, technically it is POSSIBLE as all we know :-). Reason why we can't run OS X on PC's is becuse it is prohibited by Apple. it's not about which side is superior or has better quality, it's all about marketing.

  • HP ALL THE WAYY

  • you have to be retarded to buy an overpriced "fashion" laptop like the macbook

  • dude, first of all, apple laptops are amazing. not just because they look awesome, but because the have an operating system that is 1000 times better

  • why is it better?

  • PC = WINDOWS

    MAC = OS X

    OS can make all the difference.

  • well one word only "APPLE IS THE KING" and "PC" are the slaves

  • well, the price is so costly because of the R&D of Apples, not only they developed Hardware but software as well! (Then the design of the computers) Because only one company supports the software (itself) Apple needs to raise the cost to cover it

    Im happy with my MBP, the software is great, and if I want to play PC games, well I can just switch to XP on the same machine! Yay! I know that it isn't for everyone, but I'm satisfied with Apple

  • yeah its bad when u buy the 9700t stock for 950$ but you can pick the bter one

  • but is it worth 2,000?

  • yeah i got myn for 2500 and lol alienwares m17x costs round 7215 with everything pimped out and the only differnence is .2 gigahertz and bter graphics cards and more gigs on the hard drive. and the hdx from hp SMOKES the macbook pro in everything but it costs a thousand bucks less

  • buying an apple is like buying a lexus instead of a toyota. ignorance combined with arrogance is a very dangerous weapon. Hp dv9700t with Vista 64-bit is a much better buy than a superficial looking apple mac. come on people stop wasting your money! apple is not a smart buy!

  • Well, The Mackbook Pro is the best, a pc is not how a Mac, the mac is better than the pc, in special for the OS X, the OS X is better than the windows, and the true is that, the mac wins

  • Apple is great in marketing, I have to admit. Putting same shit in a nicer looking white box, charging twice as much and actually selling couple of those requires magical skills. Unbelievable.

  • You guys all know that Mac's got better because they started to put PC elements inside, right?

  • Bill Gates himself said it sucked, in fact everyone who reviewed it at a professional level said it sucks, why do you think microsoft is hard at work on windows 7?

  • yeah you forgot to compare the OS rofl

  • Who cares about the os the fastest osx runs on a pc lol look up osx86 and you will find out what i am talking about .... mac is over priced i can build a pc 5 times faster for the same priced mac and thats the truth .... i'm a linux user myself tho

  • It funny how most of the comment below me are PC people just trying to bash apple. They have no intent of trying out something new and fresh. Most mac users can tell you why they think apple is better or not because most mac users at somepoint in their lives were PC users. They just decided to switch because of all the crap a would would give them.

  • This is why I don't buy apple. They are EXTREMELY over price for what you get. When i see someone with one all I can think is "SUCKER". lol

  • PC'S ARE STILL BETTER THAN APPLE

  • LMFAO!!!!

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  • this video musta been edited on a PC LMAO

  • you upped the price by adding the ram from apple everyone knows that you buy it from a place like newegg. take that into account.

  • yeah....right....

    I dropped the whole "which is better, which cost less"

    listen, I run ubuntu 7.10 on a thinkpad T40, and it runs like I need it to, for work.

    I would love to get a thinkpad T60/61 but, I just bought a few Hp X4000 machines on ebay....freakin sick machines for the price...

    No one is going to make you get an Apple computer if you dont want one...

    once I have the savings, I am buying a Mac Pro w/quad 2.8ghz, so....buy what you need....

    I need a Mac, cuz I love the UNIX!!

  • and... fuck these fur coats.

    I hate it, they belong to animals not humans.

    It was a stupid and unfortunate example to mention what to buy with the money.

  • To simplify, if u "own" money, get the new MBP.

    If not, buy a similar PC, although the top ones are also expensive.

    They r all good(new laps, intel), with advantages and disadvantages in both sides. Both break and need care quite often.

  • And thank you for uploading.

    Yes, It's a fact that apple "needs" more money for the same hardware others can offer.

    another fact is that most of people had comments here against your video seek for cheap laptop with high performance.

    Thank you again for the demo.

  • I don't know how this company apple still selling computers

  • I'm a gamer; I love playing games on my Mac...oh wait.

  • HaHaHa

    so true and funny!

  • they market people like you, because they know you'll go for "cheap" products. lol little bit adds up you know. Oh by the way, my friends works for Dell. Marketing team, thats how they target you =)

  • why do you think Hp, Dell and the other venders sells it for so Dirt cheap, because they know you'll come back to buy another. Lmao

  • Because Dell makes the best and the most survivable notebooks / laptops. Well-known fact, go check Dell XPS M1730, if money is not your problem, then screw Macbook Pro and get this one. It's not so 'Dirt cheap' as you may finds out, it's around $3,500.

    Oh - and I gather you're shitting money, my friend. Your comment was very selfish - not everyone will want to spend over $1,500 for a notebook - maybe because it's too expensive. Or maybe because it's not worth doing so, soon it will be outdated.

  • price price, is all you complain about, if you would save up money instead of spending it on games for your pc. you would have money to buy things. 4gb of ram... obliviously you're trying to game on that pc haha. most people do not LOL ya because when it gets old after 3 years of use. they go buy another one of those junks. then the cycle goes on and on lmao

  • this is not the point

    i buy same pc as apple for much less, can do more with it ( games, productivity, etc.) and then have thousands left to play craps or whatever i want.

    this is the point, is called capitalism. now you go off and work second job paying for leased bmw and interest only loan on million dollar home.

    good bye! HaHaHa

  • nah I think he meant you can get the same performance(well, almost), but better quality - that means it's still usable after 5 years. Errrr I know someone who has a TOSHIBA laptop, 6 years old, and only now the Win XP (home-installed, not factory) broke down.

    Well, that would work if you had Mac OS for some years now and know how to handle it. Eh... and also too much money and a tendency to speak with your hands.

  • HaHaHa Speak with the hands

    Apple looks cool but too much money for what you get.

    I would also be worried I may become emo if I were to buy apples.

  • First of all - remember, I would never buy an apple even if I had the cash.

    Now, apple notebooks are more reliable. Trust me on this. HP does look nifty, and it's certainly cheap for the powerhouse that it is claimed to be. However, HP did not begin as a notebook manufacturer and its main items are NOT notebooks. Hence, less durability, although very powerful.

    My opinion is to buy a tough, reliable and solid laptop, even if not powerful, and upgrade it later.

  • I agree with some parts however apple solders their mother boards. Most pc I know of you can exchange graphics chip and processor.

    I do believe is not possible on the apple.

  • I am a PC user, but you're comparing something that has more value for resale.I used macs as well, My G4 Power Book is worth 800 EVEN though its collecting dust old. When that hp laptop reach that age it no one would buy it haha.

  • Who cares about pc resale? Most people do not but since you bring up; is like comparing crappy Toyota Camry to Ferrari 550 Maranello. Camry has good resale, better then the 550, howerever I would rather have the Ferrari.

    I Take you would take the crappy Camry HaHaHa. Resale is not everything you see now?

  • you go buy from apple? haha wow if you're smart you get the standard and go get the ram from other 3rd party companies for cheaper. Lmao

    kid wow lol

  • Yes Apple, you admit, rips off consumer. Glad you and I concur.

  • Yes Apple, you admit, rips off consumer. Glad you and I concur.

  • lol, awesome

    Not to mention you get a mac..I mean, thats a reason not to buy in the first place

  • True, True.

    Regarding dial-up modem; many people use them to send/receive faxes without wasting paper and they are needed if traveling to foreign countries that may not have widespread wifi available - especially in private homes but do have telephones.

    Also the Mac external monitor output works only with their monitors, and there is no output for HDMI to plug into a plsma or t.v.

    For $3000 you should get more, not less.

  • please don't tell me you plan to play games with 4 gb of ram on hp laptop lol!

  • lmao, if you travel a lot, you should know now a days , people use Wifi or just plug the laptop through ethernet. By the way thats 4 gb of Ram the HP laptop is not going to use. and what are you gonna do with the money you saved, prepare to saved that money up for future break downs lol

  • Why hp not use 4gb?

    Standard vista 32bit cap at 3gb however system also cache around 0.5 gb total of 3.5-ish gb. You can get 64bit version free from ms and use up to 8 on this model i think, if you know what you doing.

    Btw what would 8gb ram cost from apple? HaHaHa

    I kid I kid!

  • haha people use something called Ethernet or Wifi on their laptops

  • who the hell still use a modem ? who has dial up? LOL!

  • You don't travel much do you?

    If nobody use them? Why still they sell them? HaHaHa

  • also I think you need to know most everyone needs modem

    cable modem

    dsl modem

    all type of modem

    you need learn more of computer parts and uses for them

  • Macbook is such a waste of money.

  • Actually, if it were not for the HP Pavillon 9700 I would not be on a MBP. First, HP is sexy and has an excellent keyboard. When I got mine in Dec. I was disappointed with the quality. Tech. Supp. is TERRIBLE. I MEAN HORRIBLE. Well the HP went back and in my opinion there is just is comparison. It is like a Ford and a Lexus. You pay for quality - thats life. Just my opinion.

  • haha silly apple fanboy doesnt know what he's got!?

    a lexus is just a cheap toyota rebadged and marketed as high end

    you want a good product you buy a bmw or Mercedes-Benz.

    Apple is just repackaged pc under stylish outerwares.

    want quality pc build yourself and put in good top quality components.

    HaHaHa Lexus=quality you silly and obsessed with.

    Do yourself a favor go out and test drive a Porchshe or Mercedes-Benz. Then also build own Quality computer and put mac os on it.

  • first:sry 'bout my english

    but, you've forgot the most important: mac os x is running on the mac book pro. and this is priceless xD

    windows sucks!

  • I'll second that.

    I am sick and tired of Windows. :S