Do I believe 9-11 was an inside US government job? Uh, Duh, NO! Do I believe that the US government intentionally let 9-11 happen? NO! Do I believe that Bush and Cheney were at remote controls of the jets that crashed into the Wtc's? Uh, duh, no! I DO BELIEVE THAT HUGE SHORTCOMINGS IN US IMMIGRATION POLICIES ALLOWED 9-11 TO HAPPEN, THOSE SHORTCOMINGS STILL EXIST. THOUSANDS OF ILLEGAL ALIEN-ISLAMISTS ARE IN THE USA. This country would rather spend billions a month on Trashcanistan than the USA.
i cant find the mp3 of this song anywhere help!!! also this is some real shit i watched every loose change, but this one needs to talk more about wtc7 and how the owner told the gov to "pull it".
While "Final Cut" misses some important new evidence, it is by far the tightest production to date from these guys. You can watch the full version on Google Video for free... but I highly recomend buying it.
You really have to brainwashed not to believe your own eyes, those were demolitions no doubt about it, just believe your own eyes.
This means neo-cons have no more respect for human life than Butterball and Tyson foods has for Turkey life, do you know the Turkey you will eat was tortured before being put to death!
Neo-cons consider "We the People" and human life around the World, no more valuable than Turkeys!
Truth stands out clear from error. The shills might succeed at convincing themselves that 1 + 1 = 10, but they won't convince most of the rational population. 9/11 was an inside job
Ben Chertoff, a lead researcher for the popular mechanics book on the 9-11 myths is the cousin of Michael Chertoff, head of homeland security. if that's not vested interest, I don't know what is. youtube. com/watch?v=LlurmJzQmzE
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Are You Kidding Me? This Has To Be The Biggest Bunch Of Bull Shit I Have Ever Heard.You Have Proved Nothing. This Evidence With No Proof.Why Is The First Edition Diff From The Second? You Are Removing Clear Evidence That Does Not Support Your Theory.None Of This Proves Anything.This Whole Thing Is Like A Spoiled Kid Yelling At Mommy And Daddy Who Think You Are A Kook.
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Put in rap music to get the attention of the younger people...smart. I'm gonna watch this movie just so I can point out all the problems with it and ultimately debunk it. Loose Change 2 was COMPLETELY DEBUNKED. Same will happen with this one. You CTs just wanna see what ya wanna see.
Parrot, why don't you at least post under different names? You are in every 9/11 thread posting denials, for months now. Its obvious you are co-intel-pro. Like duh, whatever they paid you was way too much lol.
Parrot201, I'm not taking sides, I just wanna ask you a question. You say that all of Loose Change 2 got debunked. Then explain to me how a large 757 will fit into that hole on the side of the pentagon? Where is the impact points for the wings,the engines, and the tail wings? And how could it do this without making any marks on the lawn where the impact occured?
americas americas......arrogences....typical....but intelligences....very very limited....the goverment pulled the wool over your eyes...criss angel doesn't compare to what bush has done...try learn to look beyond what you see...canada rules
Rick Siegel worked for the CIA connected Law Firm (Brown and Wood) by "moving their database" out of their WTC office JUST BEFORE 911. Their 'multiple floor' office is where the "plane" hole was opened up with explosives! Siegel "just happened" to be set up to film 911 that morning also. His resulting movie 911Eyewitness set the BOGUS CD paradigm and created the 911 movement. w w w(.)putfile(.)com/pic(.)php?img=6097839
these stupid faggots will probably relese this on the 6th aniversary of 9-11 saying that its "dedicated to the lives lost that day" to me there is no bigger slap in the face to anyone that was involved with 9-11
And then rumors, I'm spreading with my fingers crossed that Jason Bermas and maybe Korey Rove and Dylan Avery will come to Boston Freedom Rally on Sat. Sept. 15th, 2007, High Noon, Boston Common! A Boston tradition.
im glad to see someone taking time and looking into what really happened. its obvious those building didnt come down by way of a fire, and for someone to say loose change is a false science! im curious dwyerlupin what form of science do you follow?
Alot of it is very interesting to hear. The Pentagon thing is a complete farce in my opinion. However, the little explosions you see happening all the way down the towers looks no more than the structure buckling with the pressure!! Well worth watching it though, my opinion is slightly changed now....
youve been brainwashed by the internet and by the truthfairy. there is no truthfairy. there is nothing to corroborate an inside job other than theories. and bad ones at that.
Hopefully this edition, they get even some facts right.
Its good to ask questions, but when I first time saw LC, I was only thinking "do these guys use any common sense and do some research".
Hey, when governtment was doing this excellent plan, why they didnt also fix Weapons of Mass Destruction into Iraq? They look pretty stupid, not to find it. It would have easy to add a few ton of syanide or whatever in Iraq. Right?
They found what may be considered WMD's in Iraq in the form of biological weapons, but not Nuclear weapons, which is usually associated with WMD's. The reason they wouldn't do what you suggested is because they figured they would roll right through the war. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield were arrogant. The question of WMD's wouldn' matter if we would be moving towards a democ. in Iraq, which sounds humorous now. And does the lack of WMD's change anything in their agenda?
Why don't you look at the science of the collapses of the towers + building 7 by serious researchers? I've got news for you, the mess that is Iraq was planned from the beginning for a pretext to stay and spread to Iran and Syria. Liberals generally don't have a clue.
There is speculation that they were certainly planning on getting WMDs into Iraq through Turkey, but were foiled when Turkey pulled its support at the last moment and would not allow access through their country. Consider this too: the shafting of Valerie Plame and all her contacts - whose undercover job it was to monitor WMD materiel movements in the MidEast - could that have been payback for a job too well done? Tidy that it kicked Wilson in the ass, too, but which was the primary objective?
Densor050390, I checked the calendar for September 11, 2007 and it falls on a Tuesday. I don't believe many movies premiere on a Tuesday, but I could be wrong. By the way, September 11, 2001 was a Tuesday as well. Eerie, isn't it?
Densor050390, I checked the calandar for September 11, 2007 and it falls on a Tuesday. I don't believe many movies premiere on a Tuesday, but I could be wrong. By the way, September 11, 2001 was a Tuesday as well. Eerie, isn't it?
The U.S. Government assumes 95% of us care about nothing but money, greed, and over-eating, they also assume we are quite stupid on average and wouldn't take the time to investigate their evil deeds! They assumed wrong.... once you dig deep in this you uncover more and more proof they did it.... at the very least, the U.S. government paid for 9/11, had NORAD stand down to make it easier to complete and placed bombs in the WTC's including WTC7...
Those are all unsupported assertions which are easily debunked by the Loose Change Guide. Those statistics are not backed by logic and neither are the assertions you made. Watch the 'Screw Loose Change' videos and check out the Loose Change 2nd Edition Viewers Guide.
If you are serious about truth, read the Loose Change Guide, sure, but read a serious assessment of the truth in David Ray Griffin's "Debunking 9/11 Debunking." And then see which side of this debate makes real sense.
You all know about the folding of the 20$ bill, don´t
you? Shows that this was planned a long time ago! Now check the video for Planet Earth by Duran Duran out. Search words "Duran" "Planet" posted by velvetta! Check the comments by me!
The $20 bill graphics were composed nearly 42 years before the World Trade Center even existed. Plus, why would the government leave us hints that they did it? Do they want us to find out? The sheer amount of illogic in all the 9/11 arguments blows me away.
For once I agree with a debunker. That dollar folding thing is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. But just because there's a lot of nuts out there doesn't mean we're all cut from the same cloth. Most of the people who believe 9/11 was an inside job are normal, well balanced people, of average or above average intelligence.
it's supposed to come out around September 11th, haha. if it actually comes out in theaters, which is hard to believe, then hell actually will break loose.
PNAC patsy Osama Bin Laden blamed a 'government with the US government' for the 9/11 attacks while at the same time condemning the indiscriminate mass murder of innocent people.
Osama vehemently denied any involvement or even knowledge of the attacks.
The heavily censored US government controlled media ensures you Americans will never hear about that.
'snoopysuited' asked the exact same question on another video. Are you working with the same script? Ask yourself why NIST needed a third, fourth, fifth and sixth version of what happened to building 7. And only recently have they hinted they are looking at 'possible blast scenarios'. You'd think that NIST, with all their manpower and resources could get to the bottom of the mystery a lot quicker than two 'college kids'?
"...NYFD's forknowledge of the collapse unless making them part of the plot." - gabzz103
Note the strawman argument folks -
These lie mercenaries who are too stupid to get a proper job routinely invent arguments that they falsely attribute to their adversaries - then knock it down as if they've proved something - when in fact all they have proved is the intrinsic nature of their own corrupted morality for all to see.
I'll take Taylors informed opinion over LIAR gabzz103 anyday
Your theory on building 7 doesn't make sense unless the firefighters were in on it. One of the major flaws with LC and the 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Do you really believe you can find out the largest hoax in history by watching a few videos on Youtube and typing a few words on Google? Why couldn't the U.S. gov't just censor these pages and kill the LC guys the second their movie hit the web?
No you are the one who keeps regurgitating your strawman argument nonsense about firefighters being in on this inside job - in your closed mind perhaps, but not in anyone elses.
As for your second load of baloney, you obviously research like that but people who don't fear the truth do infinitely more research than you gabzz103
Why do you support research by a 20-year-old kid who couldn't make it into college instead of every educated expert?
You have absolutely no sense of reality, Ken. However, I'm positive that the people who haven't made up their mind on what happened on 9/11 that are reading this now are better critical thinkers than you'll ever be and won't fall into this disease.
I believe that you are book smart but your hatred of Bush is taking the rational part of your brain.
Strawman argument again - I've never even seen Loose Change.
As for your personal attack on my rationality gabzz103-
I refer you to psychiatrists in America who have already diagnosed you and your fellow OCT's as being in a 'state of psychological denial' because the official version of events is so clearly false as to fall apart under even the most superficial of impartial research :)
I'll give you an email alright, I suspect you may be behind bars though - that's if you're lucky and the victim's families don't get you and your ilk first.
You denying eyewitness accounts now gabzz103 - getting desperate perhaps?
Strawman argument - nowhere do I claim the NYFD had foreknowledge.
"...explain the NYFD's forknowledge of the collapse unless making them part of the plot."
I'll engage your simple minded question however to inform you that their being notified of he demolition at a moments notice and 'foreknowledge' are two very different things.
if this was not partially orchestrated by our own government then 1) they would show us the tapes of a plane hitting the pentagon, they do have them. 2)the twin towers and building 7 would not have collapsed, PERIOD. 3) there wouldn't be so many put options placed on the airlines that were "hijacked. 4)you wouldn't still be arguing about it.
thank you ken from dublin. someone who has some sense and does not believe the fairytale version. thank you everyone else aswell for supporting the TRUTH!!! according to loosechange this song is by Remo Conscious... it is called loose change :)
yh so the building collapses at free fall speed which means no resistance. ummmmmmm i dont think so. the building would have collapsed in approximately 30-45 seconds if that steel damaged the structure NOT 6.5/7 SECONDS! second of all wtc 4,5 and 6 did not collapse and they were all directly beneath the twins! they burnt for longer than wtc 7 and had worse structural damage....all that was left was the steel frame but THEY DID NOT COLLAPSE!!! i rest my case
If you all look at the science this a no brainer. I can't believe there is any discussion at all as to what happened. Are you all retarded? There is ONE possible scientific explanation that fits the facts. Preplanned demolition. NYFD didnt do it... Krikey, if you all cant understand whats going on before your eyes, you DESRERVE to be fooled (and all that comes with it). All I can say is, the slave masters love you for sticking up for their treachery.....
Totally agree Dave, a perfect textbook demolition, the sheer audacity of these domestic terrorists was and is breathaking in that they pulled this building down right in front of the whole shocked world, the demolition charges can be clearly seen in the video going off rapidly in sequence up the side of the building as it's demolished.
gabzz doesnt even know the facts. The firemen werent in on it, they were told to evacuate when they were ready to pull. 2 or 3 fires, no matter how big, could not melt EVERY SINGLE STEEL BEAM AT THE SAME TIME for the building to fall perfectly symetrical. It couldnt even melt one. THE NIST report said max temps were 500 D. F! Just like your stove cooks at. DOES IT MELT WHEN YOU TURN IT ON? Go get informed and take your blinders off, or better quit your shill job, its embarrassing.
In order for the govt fairy tale to be true, at least 3 laws of physics would have to have been broken... Also, 100+ psychologists have determined that anyone who still argues for or believes the govt lie, has a psychological problem. THAT IS NOW A REAL DIAGNOSIS because the lies are so obvious you have to deficiency to believe them. Fact, not opinion.....
gabzz103 is a lesson in psychology. his bias is so strong that he'll argue against all logic and scientific reason to keep him from feeling any sort of negative thoughts towards the people in power. but please, gabzz103, keep replying back, because i love owning people of lesser intelligence. and read over our entire argument so far and see how I've responded to your comments but you have little or nothing to say against mine.
gabzz103 is a paid shill for the NWO. How else could anybody write such dumb posts. We all KNOW that the govt fairy tale story COULD NOT be true, due to laws of physics. Its just that as we gain more and more ground, NWO pays more and more shills like this to write any nonsense to try and stop the force. Sorry....its too late..../they're going DOWN.... We dont even need to debate the facts any longer...they're so obvious and so are propagandists like gabzz.....
the best arguments for total inside job: 1)no plane at pentagon, no bodies, no luggage, no fucking way. 2)WTC1, WTC2, WTC7 all fall at free fall speed, a physics teacher should fail a student who thinks that's possible. 3)NORAD was nowhere to be found, ABSURD. 4)Thermate discovery by Prof. Steve Jones. 5)WTC7 collapsed, WTF??? 6)Bush's face when told America is under attack.
taking it to the top of the tree and lets hope alot of people become aware and take the time to investigate, good job guys . people below just take the time to research it yourself because sooner or later theres a good chance (if the majority dont wake up)you wont be able to,repercussions to 9/11 are far reaching.
911 was an inside job !!!! hear that you slimeball neo-cons and new world order tit -suckers!!!
you guy dont have the facts!! come wats up wanna challenge ! you weaklings ! 911 was an inside - look at the facts check your intuition , the "system" was lying to us all our lives!
investigate 911!! the will be told - besides why would people lie to get into trouble with our nazi goverment - people ussually lie to "get out of trouble" - hmmm you mean like our "leaders" ?
The Empire state building got hit by a larger jet, fires burned longer, the Empire State building has been standing ever since! Ignorance is Bliss in the USA! BTW, Song Name is "Top Secret"...
Lots of ppl have come forward but you guys Label them as "crack pots"
Also I dont know if you remember what it was like right after 911 but if you said ANYTHING that was against the administration you were labeled a terrorist or "pro saddam" remember "America united"? makes it hard for somone to blow the whistle.
Who? Did anyone come out and say that they saw people plant explosives in the towers (which is already completely impossible to do secretely)? If they did, why aren't they on the front page news? Oh, and prisonplanet and all those ridiculous truthy websites don't count.
why aren't they on the front page of the news? Dude, the newspapers are trying to sell something to their known audience, much like a magazines, they don't take risks that might offend their audience. Try thinking next time. and yes, the security guy did talk about system failures three weeks before 9/11, and the bomb sniffing dogs were taken out.
Why would it offend their audience? They have plenty of murders and crimes on the front page and if someone actually blew the lid on what happened on 9/11, they don't mention it? Please.
It would've taken dozen of men months to plant explosives in those towers. No one saw them I guess. They also fooled every demolition expert.
people like Bill O'reilly and other douche pundits talk about how questioning 9/11 is unpatriotic, that's why it's offensive. I agree it is ridiculous, but no newspaper wants to be accused of being radical left. My uncle is in the FBI and he's told me multiple times to never believe the press because they never give you the bottom line.
oh yeah, and there were pools of molten metal under all three buildings. and they illegally shipped all the debris to china before any further investigations could be done. Oh, and in WTC1 and WTC2, you won't find a good chunk of anything, not a computer or telephone, nothing, cause they were all blasted to bits.
Completely false. Notice the firemen standing right next to the "molten metal" in those pictures. Do you really think they'd be standing right next to it? I wouldn't get that close to a 200 degree BBQ, let alone 2000 degree liquid metal.
as for the china incident, look it up yourself, i've heard about it on numerous accounts. there's plenty of video clips where fire fighters talking about the areas they won't go because of the molten metal.
The steel from the world Trade Center was sold to India and China at around $120 a ton, a bargain price for them, but 100,000 tons x $120 = $12 million profit. Google it gabzz103.
this is exciting. i just wish i could be in america when final cut comes out to see all the yanks running around flipping out over the fact that they've been so heinously lied to!
I don't think anyone is denying that 9/11 was carried out by terrorists. It's just that the terrorists don't live in caves, they live in the white house.
You guys have nothing. We have very nearly every scientist in the world that can easily disprove your crackpot theories. You cannot even have ONE person who came forward reporting that they say people place explosives in the towers. It would've taken dozens of workers months to prepare it for a demolition but no one saw them. NO ONE.
He heard explosions. Many people did. How else does a raging inferno sound like and a building collapsing onto itself sound like?
Has anyone seen anyone plant explosives in the towers? According to you, no one did even though it would've taken months but according to anyone with a sane way of thinking, no one did because THERE WASN'T ANY!
the best arguments for total inside job: 1)no plane at pentagon, no bodies, no luggage, no fucking way. 2)WTC1, WTC2, WTC7 all fall at free fall speed, a physics teacher should fail a student who thinks that's possible. 3)NORAD was nowhere to be found, ABSURD. 4)Thermate discovery by Prof. Steve Jones. 5)WTC7 collapsed, WTF??? 6)Bush's face when told America is under attack.
hey buddy, look at the pictures from the inside of the pentagon. No bodies, no luggage, no wings, no plane. What kind of substance to you have to take to think that a plane crashed there. Oh, and just for shits, look at the crash site in Pennsylvania, the incident where Rumsfeld had a Freudian slip and said the plane was shot down.
you didn't see the pictures of every part of the plane at the pentagon because the official account said that the plane mostly melted due to the fires, an impossibility. thanks for the set ups buddy. Now seriously look at ALL the pictures of the pentagon and find a plane.
uhhhhh, don't you expect to see some other debris than that buddy. IT'S A FUCKING PLANE, AND THATS' ALL THE DEBRIS THEY HAVE. and what are they hiding that blue tarp case. and why were men in white suits on the scene to clean up first instead of a normal cleanup crew. dude, c'mon, there's no plane there.
Don't believe it. The first firetruck on the scene was a yellow firetruck from the nearby airport that was in the area dealing with an road accident. In the fire chief's report he said that he saw NO DEBRIS and that the fires were out in 7 minutes. Early photos of the pentagon show absolutely NO DEBRIS on the lawn, but later photos show small unscorched pieces of fuselage that look like they've just been placed there.
So you're telling me that a missile flew into the Pentagon (with no one seeing it but 88 people reporting seeing a plane crashing in) and then people placed a bunch of debris around the site in broad daylight (no one sees them of course) and some people took down lightposts (unseen in broad daylight) that were where the plane was supposed to be?
thanks for bringing up the light posts. There's no way a plane could have crashed into so many light posts and still hit it's target without hitting the ground. No skid marks on the grass. The amount of debris is so limited that anyone planning the event would have been smart enough to place that shit in the building. and seriously look at the hole in that bulding and compare it to what happened in WTC1 and WTC2.
So all the witnesses are liars, debris comes out of nowhere and lightposts fell down on themselves because of a missile. Okay.
The plane was travelling at 500+ mph. A few lightposts, which are designed to fall down when hit, aren't going to stop it. As for the grass, all witnesses said it didn't touch the grass but they're all liars to you anyways.
well now you're demonstrating that you didn't actually see loose change 2nd edition. a few light posts would have taken the plane down, as shown in that documentary. and the cia could put this all to rest by simply showing us the numerous tapes they have of the pentagon incident, instead of five frames that show nothing. the plane would have left a much more massive impact. 500+ miles an hour that close to the ground by a Saudi who has never flown a 757 before?
Every single argument in LC 2 has been proven wrong. Mark Roberts, a fellow debunker has held this challenge to prove that statement wrong. No one has.
There exists a complete rebuttal of this sick joke video called "Screw Loose Change" which uses experts and science to prove Dylan "I'm in it for the money" Avery wrong.
Have a good rest of your life and have a good laugh ten years from now when you'll shake your head over the silliness you used to believe.
i don't need to argue with you anymore because i already won. now you make ridiculous suggestions like actually finding the witnesses. lalalalalalala lick my balls son.
I'm only telling you what the first firemen on the scene said. Since they were standing on the lawn surely they would have to have been blind not to see the debris if there was any there. The photos of the pristine lawn are in the public domain. And I have also seen photos of what look like secret service men carrying chunks of debris onto the lawn.
Is Steve Jones a chemist? No. No trace of thermate was found at the site. It was hydrous calcium disulfate.
It was a blazing inferno for 8 hours with little water to combat the flames. It was also his by large chunk of WTC 1, making a 20-story hole into it. If you were the mastermind of this plan, why the hell would you make it collapse EIGHT HOURS LATER.
funny you call me the delusion ed one, I've heard all sides of the argument and read the commission report. Dude, a physicist has to know a shit load of chemistry, but you probably don't know that cause you never went to college. You're referring to official accounts, PROF. JONES DID FIND A COMBINATION OF THERMITE AND SULFER, CALLED THERMATE. If I was the mastermind of the plan I would try to make it as realistic as possible, dumbass. wow.
First of all, he did not find thermite there. If they were CDs, wouldn't it be obvious to all the demolition experts? However, we have every expert on the subject that claims that the towers WEREN'T destroyed by explosives. You have Rosie and Charlie Sheen.
Ten years from now, when Bush is relaxing in retirement, when Dylan Avery has spent all his money on hookers and pot, only the most radical truthers will exist. You'll be laughing at your stupidity.
the truth is, nothing will ever come about from all of this because there are no intellectuals anymore. Being a biochem major has made me realize this first hand. There are no natural agnostics, it's part of the American disease. Do you support the war in Iraq? If yes, then I won't talk to you anymore because there's no teaching the blind faithful.
I'm not only talking about American experts. I'm talking about French, Dutch, Canadian experts who all unanymously agree that planes made the WTC collapse.
So is the whole world getting dumber and you're the only one getting smarter? Hmmmm.... I'd say vice versa.
the pancake theory and weakened steal due to fire theory's have been debunked by steven jones WHO ACTUALLY DID SOME EXPERIMENTS TO PROVE IT. the scientists doing most of the research are trying to explain what most people already believe. I know there's no convincing the ignorant to think for themselves. Just watch all three of those buildings get blown out of the sky and deceive yourself.
believeyourown eyes dot com. watch the video of wtc7. i need not even mention that building anymore. that is so obviously a demolition that you have to be a retard to deny it. but you surely will.
Call up the firefighters on the scene. That building was on fire for eight hours with barely any water to fight the flames. A 20-story hole was caused by a chunk of the WTC 1. Its foundations were extremely weak and everyone on scene expected it to collapse. Even in one live clip, as WTC 7 is falling, the newscaster says "What we've expected for a few hours has happened. WTC 7 has collapsed."
there was also a white plane flying away from the pentagon right after it was hit, which could be the plane that witnesses saw, but you probably never heard of that because you never watched loose change 2nd edition douche bag. there's obviously no room for logic in your corrupted, brainwashed, thick as a brick cortex. watch how the building collapses into itself, not tipping onto the side where the supposed 20-story hole is. and look how week the fires are. you're pathetic.
I'm 19-years-old and am constantly getting smarter because my brain is still not entirely developed to its full potential. But that matters not, because I'm already smarter than you. you can't hang with me bitch, because I'm right. and i can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on.........
uh... what have i said that you can prove wrong? I'm not part of the 9/11 truth movement because it won't go anywhere. i personally attack you like i personally attack all dumb fucks on youtube, cause it's funny and it bothers them.
This '20 storey hole' in WTC 7 is a myth that these lie mercenaries post all over the internet.
It was in actual fact tapering superficial damage to one corner that did not even reach the 20th storey or compromise the building's structural integrity.
Don't believe a letter that comes from the fingertips of this particular neoconscript folks calling itself 'gabzz103'.
WTC 7 was pulled, and if you believe otherwise I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you :)
I'll PM you a link to a photograph of that hole if you request it.
Please explain to me how WTC 7 was a controlled demolition without implying the NYFD who lost dozens of men on that day. Please explain to me how they all decided to help with a mass murder that day for the money or how all their testimony of the damage on that building is all false.
To not ignore this : How was WTC 7 a CD without having the firefighters taking part in the whole mass-murdering plot which included dozens of the own losing their lives that day?
Stop you lie mercenary with your strawman arguments.
Caught red handed lying about fictional '20 storey holes' you're now fooling no one but yourself with you're [repeat] strawman argument - YOU are the only one suggesting "...firefighters taking part in the whole mass-murdering plot..." - gabzz103
The NYFD are not a demolition company, they didn't and couldn't have possibly pulled WTC 7 despite Silverstein claiming that he ordered them to, what a stupid question!
No, but if it was a CD, they would've been involved in the whole mass-murder plot. They would've acted pretending that they thought it could collapse knowing they'd blow it up.
If WTC 7 was in fact a CD, how could the NYFD not have the blood of 3,000 people, including dozens of their own, on their hands?
You're talking complete bullshit, you really have to be taking the piss here with that unutterable nonsense.
Go away and do some research gabzz103 and stop embarrassing yourself here with your warped logic and bizarre theories on this gravely serious subject.
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Do I believe 9-11 was an inside US government job? Uh, Duh, NO! Do I believe that the US government intentionally let 9-11 happen? NO! Do I believe that Bush and Cheney were at remote controls of the jets that crashed into the Wtc's? Uh, duh, no! I DO BELIEVE THAT HUGE SHORTCOMINGS IN US IMMIGRATION POLICIES ALLOWED 9-11 TO HAPPEN, THOSE SHORTCOMINGS STILL EXIST. THOUSANDS OF ILLEGAL ALIEN-ISLAMISTS ARE IN THE USA. This country would rather spend billions a month on Trashcanistan than the USA.
tickyul 1 year ago
NOW YOU WILL RECEIVE US!!
CAinfowarrior 2 years ago
Sweet, I found the song! It's "Loose Change" by Remo Conscious
kmarzfg 2 years ago
i cant find the mp3 of this song anywhere help!!! also this is some real shit i watched every loose change, but this one needs to talk more about wtc7 and how the owner told the gov to "pull it".
1350walton 3 years ago
if you can do this your a good kisser:
1. hold your breath
2. highlight the whole thing
3. open a new youtube page(still holdin breath)
4. paste it on the new page(stillholdin breath)
if you made it then your a good kisses if nt ur crap
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yamaharacer488 3 years ago
great dvd and what a killer song
I love it
hybridtraffic 4 years ago 3
While "Final Cut" misses some important new evidence, it is by far the tightest production to date from these guys. You can watch the full version on Google Video for free... but I highly recomend buying it.
djjimi 4 years ago
You really have to brainwashed not to believe your own eyes, those were demolitions no doubt about it, just believe your own eyes.
This means neo-cons have no more respect for human life than Butterball and Tyson foods has for Turkey life, do you know the Turkey you will eat was tortured before being put to death!
Neo-cons consider "We the People" and human life around the World, no more valuable than Turkeys!
Maybe they're right?
Vote Kucinich, he's our only hope!
BirdFlewOver 4 years ago
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final cut is fuckin terrible I really don't know what has happend to those guys, I think its a cop out to be honnest
lewisdream 4 years ago
Apparently the truth needs both a second edition and a final cut. Is there no learning curve with these people?
smiledammit24 4 years ago
Does someone has the lyrics of the music in this trailer ? please
youness801 4 years ago
Who is the rapper on this clip?
OTownGuy1 4 years ago
Here's a list of shills to watchout for on YouTube:tgzlavistane RockShot777 wl34 SharkGoddess JLaw012 handjob10 Crackfukker priorzola GammaRay43 mulax01 marksman500 jweb1272 kwvaussie amustad Ac6750 coon460305 MsgtSpook homeric9 blueshark69 pilot101st legalboxer blaupunkt455 MediaCop tbs247 cchris874 WhyAskQuestions ncdave4life MGR1900 PoetryHound glennwall2 aussiestormer
OperationMockingbird 4 years ago
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OperationMockingbird 4 years ago
Pass this list around to your friends.
OperationMockingbird 4 years ago
Truth stands out clear from error. The shills might succeed at convincing themselves that 1 + 1 = 10, but they won't convince most of the rational population. 9/11 was an inside job
gavingoo 4 years ago 2
Amen, brother.
Keep up the good fight. Take care.
OperationMockingbird 4 years ago
Ben Chertoff, a lead researcher for the popular mechanics book on the 9-11 myths is the cousin of Michael Chertoff, head of homeland security. if that's not vested interest, I don't know what is. youtube. com/watch?v=LlurmJzQmzE
BurningPyramid333 4 years ago
loose change kicks ass,, but this song SUCKS...
seach for "BAD CARD" on youtube !
saintmarley 4 years ago
The song name is: Loose change
from: Remo Conscious
u can´t find it with a sharing programm :(
SterrUwe12345 4 years ago
yeah just buy the cd, i did
FiRunormal 4 years ago
What´s the fucking Song Name?? I NEED IT!!!
SterrUwe12345 4 years ago
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Are You Kidding Me? This Has To Be The Biggest Bunch Of Bull Shit I Have Ever Heard.You Have Proved Nothing. This Evidence With No Proof.Why Is The First Edition Diff From The Second? You Are Removing Clear Evidence That Does Not Support Your Theory.None Of This Proves Anything.This Whole Thing Is Like A Spoiled Kid Yelling At Mommy And Daddy Who Think You Are A Kook.
TMDJ2008 4 years ago
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shit was debunked
peterene 4 years ago
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Put in rap music to get the attention of the younger people...smart. I'm gonna watch this movie just so I can point out all the problems with it and ultimately debunk it. Loose Change 2 was COMPLETELY DEBUNKED. Same will happen with this one. You CTs just wanna see what ya wanna see.
parrot201 4 years ago
Parrot, why don't you at least post under different names? You are in every 9/11 thread posting denials, for months now. Its obvious you are co-intel-pro. Like duh, whatever they paid you was way too much lol.
hadubnano 4 years ago
Parrot201, I'm not taking sides, I just wanna ask you a question. You say that all of Loose Change 2 got debunked. Then explain to me how a large 757 will fit into that hole on the side of the pentagon? Where is the impact points for the wings,the engines, and the tail wings? And how could it do this without making any marks on the lawn where the impact occured?
Loakum 4 years ago 3
thanks alot.. its a nice vid and a nice song
arvin91 4 years ago
I wonder if they'll open up an old file years from now to expose who and how.
Steveinthetube 4 years ago
loose-change-911(dot)com/loose-change-3(dot)html
The final cut is up on the Loose Change web site!!!!
It is not like the 2nd and 1st editions, it shows their progress and very interesting interveiws with experts (with som new evidence).
dudepal187 4 years ago
really good job on loose change but one question
WHATS THIS SONG CALLED AND WHO IS IT BY????????
derekaolno16 4 years ago
Did everyone just see the free market news article about possible new false flag sept 14.
freemarketnews. com/WorldNews. asp?nid=48646
dbarsell 4 years ago
americas americas......arrogences....typical....but intelligences....very very limited....the goverment pulled the wool over your eyes...criss angel doesn't compare to what bush has done...try learn to look beyond what you see...canada rules
magic012002 4 years ago
what is that song called !? wow!
arvin91 4 years ago
Hey do u wanna see soemthing interesting? this video refers to cheney explaining why they did not invade baghdad in 94
type in cheney, iraq 94, quagmire
tomisclass 4 years ago
I like mine better to be honest with you.
mattsmillion 4 years ago
Rick Siegel worked for the CIA connected Law Firm (Brown and Wood) by "moving their database" out of their WTC office JUST BEFORE 911. Their 'multiple floor' office is where the "plane" hole was opened up with explosives! Siegel "just happened" to be set up to film 911 that morning also. His resulting movie 911Eyewitness set the BOGUS CD paradigm and created the 911 movement. w w w(.)putfile(.)com/pic(.)php?img=6097839
Natashathompson 4 years ago
these stupid faggots will probably relese this on the 6th aniversary of 9-11 saying that its "dedicated to the lives lost that day" to me there is no bigger slap in the face to anyone that was involved with 9-11
jflyin123 4 years ago
Song is by Remo Conscious
smoky289 4 years ago
i bet they're releasing this on 9/11/07
noone730 4 years ago
They are in NYC on 9/11/2007.
And then rumors, I'm spreading with my fingers crossed that Jason Bermas and maybe Korey Rove and Dylan Avery will come to Boston Freedom Rally on Sat. Sept. 15th, 2007, High Noon, Boston Common! A Boston tradition.
I'm working on the Boston part as we speak!
MikeCANN 4 years ago
Who is singing that song?
mackynzieheart 4 years ago
cant wait for this
Dynamicdj 4 years ago
im glad to see someone taking time and looking into what really happened. its obvious those building didnt come down by way of a fire, and for someone to say loose change is a false science! im curious dwyerlupin what form of science do you follow?
arf900 4 years ago
Why don't YOU look into the science of 9/11 truth and try to debunk it. You will be attempting to overturn many laws of physics give it a try....
You need a science lesson?
theMatrixEndsHere 4 years ago
911weknow...infowars..
educate yourself , bush like his cattle dumb, he prays for more dead americans ! bring the bush reich down !
princessjaybunni 4 years ago
Alot of it is very interesting to hear. The Pentagon thing is a complete farce in my opinion. However, the little explosions you see happening all the way down the towers looks no more than the structure buckling with the pressure!! Well worth watching it though, my opinion is slightly changed now....
pirague 4 years ago
loose change producers thank you all for giving them money to watch their bullshi. LMAO.
fastfingersfunk 4 years ago
fastfingerbrainwashing
theMatrixEndsHere 4 years ago
youve been brainwashed by the internet and by the truthfairy. there is no truthfairy. there is nothing to corroborate an inside job other than theories. and bad ones at that.
fastfingersfunk 4 years ago
brainwashed vvvv
WonSpecNificent 4 years ago
The USA government thanks you for giving the illegal federal reserve money to turn this country into a police state.LMAO.
alexkennedy92 4 years ago
we dont need police? you prefer to banish police? LMAO, what a kook.
fastfingersfunk 4 years ago
Why argue with people who will never believe or want to hear the truth? Agree to disagree. Arguing over it is childish, and pointless.
awalko5 4 years ago
Hopefully this edition, they get even some facts right.
Its good to ask questions, but when I first time saw LC, I was only thinking "do these guys use any common sense and do some research".
Hey, when governtment was doing this excellent plan, why they didnt also fix Weapons of Mass Destruction into Iraq? They look pretty stupid, not to find it. It would have easy to add a few ton of syanide or whatever in Iraq. Right?
PS: I do NOT like Bush´s policy
Junglekorak 4 years ago
They found what may be considered WMD's in Iraq in the form of biological weapons, but not Nuclear weapons, which is usually associated with WMD's. The reason they wouldn't do what you suggested is because they figured they would roll right through the war. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield were arrogant. The question of WMD's wouldn' matter if we would be moving towards a democ. in Iraq, which sounds humorous now. And does the lack of WMD's change anything in their agenda?
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
Why don't you look at the science of the collapses of the towers + building 7 by serious researchers? I've got news for you, the mess that is Iraq was planned from the beginning for a pretext to stay and spread to Iran and Syria. Liberals generally don't have a clue.
theMatrixEndsHere 4 years ago
There is speculation that they were certainly planning on getting WMDs into Iraq through Turkey, but were foiled when Turkey pulled its support at the last moment and would not allow access through their country. Consider this too: the shafting of Valerie Plame and all her contacts - whose undercover job it was to monitor WMD materiel movements in the MidEast - could that have been payback for a job too well done? Tidy that it kicked Wilson in the ass, too, but which was the primary objective?
NoSideShowPlease 4 years ago
Densor050390, I checked the calendar for September 11, 2007 and it falls on a Tuesday. I don't believe many movies premiere on a Tuesday, but I could be wrong. By the way, September 11, 2001 was a Tuesday as well. Eerie, isn't it?
ThereisaConspiracy 4 years ago
Densor050390, I checked the calandar for September 11, 2007 and it falls on a Tuesday. I don't believe many movies premiere on a Tuesday, but I could be wrong. By the way, September 11, 2001 was a Tuesday as well. Eerie, isn't it?
ThereisaConspiracy 4 years ago
I have this movie right here infront of me but I watched Derailed instead! I'm gonna pop it in my player right now!
Starbright4876 4 years ago
when is this coming out?
ONLYoneCANNOLI 4 years ago
what is the song
cmerrill92 4 years ago
Cant wait for this to come out.. a lot of new evidence and eyewitness testimonies.
migraneboy2006 4 years ago
The U.S. Government assumes 95% of us care about nothing but money, greed, and over-eating, they also assume we are quite stupid on average and wouldn't take the time to investigate their evil deeds! They assumed wrong.... once you dig deep in this you uncover more and more proof they did it.... at the very least, the U.S. government paid for 9/11, had NORAD stand down to make it easier to complete and placed bombs in the WTC's including WTC7...
MikeHawkins 4 years ago
Those are all unsupported assertions which are easily debunked by the Loose Change Guide. Those statistics are not backed by logic and neither are the assertions you made. Watch the 'Screw Loose Change' videos and check out the Loose Change 2nd Edition Viewers Guide.
Chaosgem13 4 years ago
yeah i really don't believe that
cornsyrup46 4 years ago
If you are serious about truth, read the Loose Change Guide, sure, but read a serious assessment of the truth in David Ray Griffin's "Debunking 9/11 Debunking." And then see which side of this debate makes real sense.
NoSideShowPlease 4 years ago
Cant wait for new video looks like they got some excellent animations anyone know a release date?
level42funk 4 years ago
You all know about the folding of the 20$ bill, don´t
you? Shows that this was planned a long time ago! Now check the video for Planet Earth by Duran Duran out. Search words "Duran" "Planet" posted by velvetta! Check the comments by me!
vikingolofbjork 4 years ago
The $20 bill graphics were composed nearly 42 years before the World Trade Center even existed. Plus, why would the government leave us hints that they did it? Do they want us to find out? The sheer amount of illogic in all the 9/11 arguments blows me away.
Chaosgem13 4 years ago
For once I agree with a debunker. That dollar folding thing is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. But just because there's a lot of nuts out there doesn't mean we're all cut from the same cloth. Most of the people who believe 9/11 was an inside job are normal, well balanced people, of average or above average intelligence.
unknowable322 4 years ago
What's the music?
theleech2001 4 years ago
Go to the Loose Change 911 forum for the answer.
adelelles 4 years ago
What are you talking about?
unknowable322 4 years ago
it's supposed to come out around September 11th, haha. if it actually comes out in theaters, which is hard to believe, then hell actually will break loose.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
PNAC patsy Osama Bin Laden blamed a 'government with the US government' for the 9/11 attacks while at the same time condemning the indiscriminate mass murder of innocent people.
Osama vehemently denied any involvement or even knowledge of the attacks.
The heavily censored US government controlled media ensures you Americans will never hear about that.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Read what all these patriots have to say about 9/11 -
100+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
130+ Professors Question 9/11
70+ Entertainment and Media Professionals
100+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
patriotsquestion911(dot)com/media(dot)html
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
why does the "truth" need a 1st, 2nd, and final cut edition?
elnino708 4 years ago
'snoopysuited' asked the exact same question on another video. Are you working with the same script? Ask yourself why NIST needed a third, fourth, fifth and sixth version of what happened to building 7. And only recently have they hinted they are looking at 'possible blast scenarios'. You'd think that NIST, with all their manpower and resources could get to the bottom of the mystery a lot quicker than two 'college kids'?
unknowable322 4 years ago
To shut you lot up once and for all :)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
"The collapse of the WTC towers looked like a classic controlled demolition."
- Mike Taylor of the National Association of Demolition Contractors in Doylestown, Pennsylvania.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
looked LIKE a classic...
was LIKE a cruise missile with wings...
Get back to me when you have evidence that doesn't involve similes, when you have cold hard facts.
You still can't explain the NYFD's forknowledge of the collapse unless making them part of the plot.
gabzz103 4 years ago
"...NYFD's forknowledge of the collapse unless making them part of the plot." - gabzz103
Note the strawman argument folks -
These lie mercenaries who are too stupid to get a proper job routinely invent arguments that they falsely attribute to their adversaries - then knock it down as if they've proved something - when in fact all they have proved is the intrinsic nature of their own corrupted morality for all to see.
I'll take Taylors informed opinion over LIAR gabzz103 anyday
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Your theory on building 7 doesn't make sense unless the firefighters were in on it. One of the major flaws with LC and the 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Do you really believe you can find out the largest hoax in history by watching a few videos on Youtube and typing a few words on Google? Why couldn't the U.S. gov't just censor these pages and kill the LC guys the second their movie hit the web?
gabzz103 4 years ago
No you are the one who keeps regurgitating your strawman argument nonsense about firefighters being in on this inside job - in your closed mind perhaps, but not in anyone elses.
As for your second load of baloney, you obviously research like that but people who don't fear the truth do infinitely more research than you gabzz103
The truth must hurt you soooo baaaad :)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Why do you support research by a 20-year-old kid who couldn't make it into college instead of every educated expert?
You have absolutely no sense of reality, Ken. However, I'm positive that the people who haven't made up their mind on what happened on 9/11 that are reading this now are better critical thinkers than you'll ever be and won't fall into this disease.
I believe that you are book smart but your hatred of Bush is taking the rational part of your brain.
gabzz103 4 years ago
Strawman argument again - I've never even seen Loose Change.
As for your personal attack on my rationality gabzz103-
I refer you to psychiatrists in America who have already diagnosed you and your fellow OCT's as being in a 'state of psychological denial' because the official version of events is so clearly false as to fall apart under even the most superficial of impartial research :)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
There's seriously no point talking to you; you dodge the tricky questions and dismiss evidence that goes against you.
Give me an e-mail 10 years from now telling me what you think about what happened on 9/11 but until then...aurevoir.
gabzz103 4 years ago
I'll give you an email alright, I suspect you may be behind bars though - that's if you're lucky and the victim's families don't get you and your ilk first.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
You denying eyewitness accounts now gabzz103 - getting desperate perhaps?
Strawman argument - nowhere do I claim the NYFD had foreknowledge.
"...explain the NYFD's forknowledge of the collapse unless making them part of the plot."
I'll engage your simple minded question however to inform you that their being notified of he demolition at a moments notice and 'foreknowledge' are two very different things.
- you still lying about your IQ?
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
if this was not partially orchestrated by our own government then 1) they would show us the tapes of a plane hitting the pentagon, they do have them. 2)the twin towers and building 7 would not have collapsed, PERIOD. 3) there wouldn't be so many put options placed on the airlines that were "hijacked. 4)you wouldn't still be arguing about it.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
thank you ken from dublin. someone who has some sense and does not believe the fairytale version. thank you everyone else aswell for supporting the TRUTH!!! according to loosechange this song is by Remo Conscious... it is called loose change :)
passdop 4 years ago
yh so the building collapses at free fall speed which means no resistance. ummmmmmm i dont think so. the building would have collapsed in approximately 30-45 seconds if that steel damaged the structure NOT 6.5/7 SECONDS! second of all wtc 4,5 and 6 did not collapse and they were all directly beneath the twins! they burnt for longer than wtc 7 and had worse structural damage....all that was left was the steel frame but THEY DID NOT COLLAPSE!!! i rest my case
passdop 4 years ago
If you all look at the science this a no brainer. I can't believe there is any discussion at all as to what happened. Are you all retarded? There is ONE possible scientific explanation that fits the facts. Preplanned demolition. NYFD didnt do it... Krikey, if you all cant understand whats going on before your eyes, you DESRERVE to be fooled (and all that comes with it). All I can say is, the slave masters love you for sticking up for their treachery.....
thedave108 4 years ago
Totally agree Dave, a perfect textbook demolition, the sheer audacity of these domestic terrorists was and is breathaking in that they pulled this building down right in front of the whole shocked world, the demolition charges can be clearly seen in the video going off rapidly in sequence up the side of the building as it's demolished.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
gabzz doesnt even know the facts. The firemen werent in on it, they were told to evacuate when they were ready to pull. 2 or 3 fires, no matter how big, could not melt EVERY SINGLE STEEL BEAM AT THE SAME TIME for the building to fall perfectly symetrical. It couldnt even melt one. THE NIST report said max temps were 500 D. F! Just like your stove cooks at. DOES IT MELT WHEN YOU TURN IT ON? Go get informed and take your blinders off, or better quit your shill job, its embarrassing.
thedave108 4 years ago
In order for the govt fairy tale to be true, at least 3 laws of physics would have to have been broken... Also, 100+ psychologists have determined that anyone who still argues for or believes the govt lie, has a psychological problem. THAT IS NOW A REAL DIAGNOSIS because the lies are so obvious you have to deficiency to believe them. Fact, not opinion.....
thedave108 4 years ago
A [profound] 'State of Psychological Denial' I believe is their diagnosis of the OCT's.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Oh lord... they're charging money for this tripe now?
crookedjon 4 years ago
gabzz103 is a lesson in psychology. his bias is so strong that he'll argue against all logic and scientific reason to keep him from feeling any sort of negative thoughts towards the people in power. but please, gabzz103, keep replying back, because i love owning people of lesser intelligence. and read over our entire argument so far and see how I've responded to your comments but you have little or nothing to say against mine.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
gabzz103 is a paid shill for the NWO. How else could anybody write such dumb posts. We all KNOW that the govt fairy tale story COULD NOT be true, due to laws of physics. Its just that as we gain more and more ground, NWO pays more and more shills like this to write any nonsense to try and stop the force. Sorry....its too late..../they're going DOWN.... We dont even need to debate the facts any longer...they're so obvious and so are propagandists like gabzz.....
thedave108 4 years ago
You got me.
You should totally join us. You get a free subscription to the Pudding of the Month Club.
gabzz103 4 years ago
I wonder your rational for building 7 deciding to commit suicide is?
shdspart1 4 years ago
Inside job.
IAMASCREENNAME 4 years ago
I cant wait till this comes out, to bad it comes out next september. One day this will be out in theaters.
pmpstar101 4 years ago
the best arguments for total inside job: 1)no plane at pentagon, no bodies, no luggage, no fucking way. 2)WTC1, WTC2, WTC7 all fall at free fall speed, a physics teacher should fail a student who thinks that's possible. 3)NORAD was nowhere to be found, ABSURD. 4)Thermate discovery by Prof. Steve Jones. 5)WTC7 collapsed, WTF??? 6)Bush's face when told America is under attack.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
taking it to the top of the tree and lets hope alot of people become aware and take the time to investigate, good job guys . people below just take the time to research it yourself because sooner or later theres a good chance (if the majority dont wake up)you wont be able to,repercussions to 9/11 are far reaching.
goonerno14 4 years ago
DaM STRAIGHT CIV1!!!!!!!!
AbyNoyola10 4 years ago
911 was an inside job !!!! hear that you slimeball neo-cons and new world order tit -suckers!!!
you guy dont have the facts!! come wats up wanna challenge ! you weaklings ! 911 was an inside - look at the facts check your intuition , the "system" was lying to us all our lives!
investigate 911!! the will be told - besides why would people lie to get into trouble with our nazi goverment - people ussually lie to "get out of trouble" - hmmm you mean like our "leaders" ?
civ1 4 years ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DblockUbitchassnigga 4 years ago
The Empire state building got hit by a larger jet, fires burned longer, the Empire State building has been standing ever since! Ignorance is Bliss in the USA! BTW, Song Name is "Top Secret"...
MikeHawkins 4 years ago
do you by any chance who the artist is
passdop 4 years ago
Lots of ppl have come forward but you guys Label them as "crack pots"
Also I dont know if you remember what it was like right after 911 but if you said ANYTHING that was against the administration you were labeled a terrorist or "pro saddam" remember "America united"? makes it hard for somone to blow the whistle.
beechave 4 years ago
gabzz103 theres a reason why people dont come forward thats before there to scared they probably fear there life and that of there family
darkside97 4 years ago
In Nazi Germany, people still protested the Nazis and spoke against them even if they knew they could be executed.
But not a single person has done that about 9/11...I wonder why.
gabzz103 4 years ago
actually, lots of people have come out. You're the one closing your ears dummy.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
Who? Did anyone come out and say that they saw people plant explosives in the towers (which is already completely impossible to do secretely)? If they did, why aren't they on the front page news? Oh, and prisonplanet and all those ridiculous truthy websites don't count.
gabzz103 4 years ago
why aren't they on the front page of the news? Dude, the newspapers are trying to sell something to their known audience, much like a magazines, they don't take risks that might offend their audience. Try thinking next time. and yes, the security guy did talk about system failures three weeks before 9/11, and the bomb sniffing dogs were taken out.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
Why would it offend their audience? They have plenty of murders and crimes on the front page and if someone actually blew the lid on what happened on 9/11, they don't mention it? Please.
It would've taken dozen of men months to plant explosives in those towers. No one saw them I guess. They also fooled every demolition expert.
gabzz103 4 years ago
people like Bill O'reilly and other douche pundits talk about how questioning 9/11 is unpatriotic, that's why it's offensive. I agree it is ridiculous, but no newspaper wants to be accused of being radical left. My uncle is in the FBI and he's told me multiple times to never believe the press because they never give you the bottom line.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
oh yeah, and there were pools of molten metal under all three buildings. and they illegally shipped all the debris to china before any further investigations could be done. Oh, and in WTC1 and WTC2, you won't find a good chunk of anything, not a computer or telephone, nothing, cause they were all blasted to bits.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
Completely false. Notice the firemen standing right next to the "molten metal" in those pictures. Do you really think they'd be standing right next to it? I wouldn't get that close to a 200 degree BBQ, let alone 2000 degree liquid metal.
Shipped to China? Where's your source?
gabzz103 4 years ago
as for the china incident, look it up yourself, i've heard about it on numerous accounts. there's plenty of video clips where fire fighters talking about the areas they won't go because of the molten metal.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
The steel from the world Trade Center was sold to India and China at around $120 a ton, a bargain price for them, but 100,000 tons x $120 = $12 million profit. Google it gabzz103.
unknowable322 4 years ago
Yes yes yes yes! Tulsatruth(dot)org
TulsaTruthTV 4 years ago
what is the name of this song?
dav1625 4 years ago
this is exciting. i just wish i could be in america when final cut comes out to see all the yanks running around flipping out over the fact that they've been so heinously lied to!
timsmedia 4 years ago
Uh uh. I don't know if I could've been any clearer, but a 9/11 denier is a silly conspiracy theorist who lives in his own world.
You are ignoring 99.99% of expert scientists, tons of eyewitness testimony and quote-mine when you're preaching out this trash as if it's the Bible.
We're not plugged into the Matrix, we landed on the Moon and 9/11 was caused by terrorists.
gabzz103 4 years ago
I don't think anyone is denying that 9/11 was carried out by terrorists. It's just that the terrorists don't live in caves, they live in the white house.
roflcopter2006 4 years ago
Damn right buddy!
VoiceOfCommonSense 4 years ago
You guys have nothing. We have very nearly every scientist in the world that can easily disprove your crackpot theories. You cannot even have ONE person who came forward reporting that they say people place explosives in the towers. It would've taken dozens of workers months to prepare it for a demolition but no one saw them. NO ONE.
gabzz103 4 years ago
willie rodrigeuz saw them - and spoke about it, its just not on fox news / paris hilton bloopers / whatever else you watch
brianabanksporn 4 years ago
He heard explosions. Many people did. How else does a raging inferno sound like and a building collapsing onto itself sound like?
Has anyone seen anyone plant explosives in the towers? According to you, no one did even though it would've taken months but according to anyone with a sane way of thinking, no one did because THERE WASN'T ANY!
gabzz103 4 years ago
the best arguments for total inside job: 1)no plane at pentagon, no bodies, no luggage, no fucking way. 2)WTC1, WTC2, WTC7 all fall at free fall speed, a physics teacher should fail a student who thinks that's possible. 3)NORAD was nowhere to be found, ABSURD. 4)Thermate discovery by Prof. Steve Jones. 5)WTC7 collapsed, WTF??? 6)Bush's face when told America is under attack.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
EXACTLEY !
den123mate 4 years ago
Google search "Pentagon debris". All but one of the passengers there were found.
Notice the debris faling next to the towers as it collapses. The debris' falling at freefall, the tower is falling slower. Hence, not freefall.
Fighter jets were too late, they followed Flight 93 but arrived in Shanksville a few minutes after it crashed.
gabzz103 4 years ago
hey buddy, look at the pictures from the inside of the pentagon. No bodies, no luggage, no wings, no plane. What kind of substance to you have to take to think that a plane crashed there. Oh, and just for shits, look at the crash site in Pennsylvania, the incident where Rumsfeld had a Freudian slip and said the plane was shot down.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
I have seen pictures of nearly every part of the plane at the Pentagon. You obviously didn't take my suggestion so I'll repeat it.
Look at a non-9/11 truth website that comes up the Google search for "Pentagon Debris".
gabzz103 4 years ago
you didn't see the pictures of every part of the plane at the pentagon because the official account said that the plane mostly melted due to the fires, an impossibility. thanks for the set ups buddy. Now seriously look at ALL the pictures of the pentagon and find a plane.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
The official story DID NOT say the plane melted due to fires.
Loose Change did.
*Sigh*
pentagonresearch dot com slash 757debris dot html
Explain these to me. Are they optical illusions?
gabzz103 4 years ago
uhhhhh, don't you expect to see some other debris than that buddy. IT'S A FUCKING PLANE, AND THATS' ALL THE DEBRIS THEY HAVE. and what are they hiding that blue tarp case. and why were men in white suits on the scene to clean up first instead of a normal cleanup crew. dude, c'mon, there's no plane there.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
Don't believe it. The first firetruck on the scene was a yellow firetruck from the nearby airport that was in the area dealing with an road accident. In the fire chief's report he said that he saw NO DEBRIS and that the fires were out in 7 minutes. Early photos of the pentagon show absolutely NO DEBRIS on the lawn, but later photos show small unscorched pieces of fuselage that look like they've just been placed there.
unknowable322 4 years ago
So you're telling me that a missile flew into the Pentagon (with no one seeing it but 88 people reporting seeing a plane crashing in) and then people placed a bunch of debris around the site in broad daylight (no one sees them of course) and some people took down lightposts (unseen in broad daylight) that were where the plane was supposed to be?
Yes or no?
gabzz103 4 years ago
thanks for bringing up the light posts. There's no way a plane could have crashed into so many light posts and still hit it's target without hitting the ground. No skid marks on the grass. The amount of debris is so limited that anyone planning the event would have been smart enough to place that shit in the building. and seriously look at the hole in that bulding and compare it to what happened in WTC1 and WTC2.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
So all the witnesses are liars, debris comes out of nowhere and lightposts fell down on themselves because of a missile. Okay.
The plane was travelling at 500+ mph. A few lightposts, which are designed to fall down when hit, aren't going to stop it. As for the grass, all witnesses said it didn't touch the grass but they're all liars to you anyways.
# of people that saw a missile : 0
# of people that saw a plane : 88
gabzz103 4 years ago
well now you're demonstrating that you didn't actually see loose change 2nd edition. a few light posts would have taken the plane down, as shown in that documentary. and the cia could put this all to rest by simply showing us the numerous tapes they have of the pentagon incident, instead of five frames that show nothing. the plane would have left a much more massive impact. 500+ miles an hour that close to the ground by a Saudi who has never flown a 757 before?
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
Every single argument in LC 2 has been proven wrong. Mark Roberts, a fellow debunker has held this challenge to prove that statement wrong. No one has.
There exists a complete rebuttal of this sick joke video called "Screw Loose Change" which uses experts and science to prove Dylan "I'm in it for the money" Avery wrong.
Have a good rest of your life and have a good laugh ten years from now when you'll shake your head over the silliness you used to believe.
Bye! ;)
gabzz103 4 years ago
i don't need to argue with you anymore because i already won. now you make ridiculous suggestions like actually finding the witnesses. lalalalalalala lick my balls son.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
I'm only telling you what the first firemen on the scene said. Since they were standing on the lawn surely they would have to have been blind not to see the debris if there was any there. The photos of the pristine lawn are in the public domain. And I have also seen photos of what look like secret service men carrying chunks of debris onto the lawn.
unknowable322 4 years ago
Is Steve Jones a chemist? No. No trace of thermate was found at the site. It was hydrous calcium disulfate.
It was a blazing inferno for 8 hours with little water to combat the flames. It was also his by large chunk of WTC 1, making a 20-story hole into it. If you were the mastermind of this plan, why the hell would you make it collapse EIGHT HOURS LATER.
gabzz103 4 years ago
funny you call me the delusion ed one, I've heard all sides of the argument and read the commission report. Dude, a physicist has to know a shit load of chemistry, but you probably don't know that cause you never went to college. You're referring to official accounts, PROF. JONES DID FIND A COMBINATION OF THERMITE AND SULFER, CALLED THERMATE. If I was the mastermind of the plan I would try to make it as realistic as possible, dumbass. wow.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
First of all, he did not find thermite there. If they were CDs, wouldn't it be obvious to all the demolition experts? However, we have every expert on the subject that claims that the towers WEREN'T destroyed by explosives. You have Rosie and Charlie Sheen.
Ten years from now, when Bush is relaxing in retirement, when Dylan Avery has spent all his money on hookers and pot, only the most radical truthers will exist. You'll be laughing at your stupidity.
gabzz103 4 years ago
the truth is, nothing will ever come about from all of this because there are no intellectuals anymore. Being a biochem major has made me realize this first hand. There are no natural agnostics, it's part of the American disease. Do you support the war in Iraq? If yes, then I won't talk to you anymore because there's no teaching the blind faithful.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
I do not support Bush or his war for oil.
I'm not only talking about American experts. I'm talking about French, Dutch, Canadian experts who all unanymously agree that planes made the WTC collapse.
So is the whole world getting dumber and you're the only one getting smarter? Hmmmm.... I'd say vice versa.
gabzz103 4 years ago
the pancake theory and weakened steal due to fire theory's have been debunked by steven jones WHO ACTUALLY DID SOME EXPERIMENTS TO PROVE IT. the scientists doing most of the research are trying to explain what most people already believe. I know there's no convincing the ignorant to think for themselves. Just watch all three of those buildings get blown out of the sky and deceive yourself.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
1 man doing a silly experiment that's completely unsupported by anyone of the scientific community
vs
All of the other experts on the subject.
Okay......
gabzz103 4 years ago
believeyourown eyes dot com. watch the video of wtc7. i need not even mention that building anymore. that is so obviously a demolition that you have to be a retard to deny it. but you surely will.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
Call up the firefighters on the scene. That building was on fire for eight hours with barely any water to fight the flames. A 20-story hole was caused by a chunk of the WTC 1. Its foundations were extremely weak and everyone on scene expected it to collapse. Even in one live clip, as WTC 7 is falling, the newscaster says "What we've expected for a few hours has happened. WTC 7 has collapsed."
gabzz103 4 years ago
there was also a white plane flying away from the pentagon right after it was hit, which could be the plane that witnesses saw, but you probably never heard of that because you never watched loose change 2nd edition douche bag. there's obviously no room for logic in your corrupted, brainwashed, thick as a brick cortex. watch how the building collapses into itself, not tipping onto the side where the supposed 20-story hole is. and look how week the fires are. you're pathetic.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
I suggest you personally find the witnesses and convince them of what the saw was wrong.
You seriously have no rationality.
gabzz103 4 years ago
I'm 19-years-old and am constantly getting smarter because my brain is still not entirely developed to its full potential. But that matters not, because I'm already smarter than you. you can't hang with me bitch, because I'm right. and i can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on.........
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
Typical truther behavior.
Once your "facts" are destroyed, go to personal insults.
I won't do that though because I'm simply a better person than you.
gabzz103 4 years ago
uh... what have i said that you can prove wrong? I'm not part of the 9/11 truth movement because it won't go anywhere. i personally attack you like i personally attack all dumb fucks on youtube, cause it's funny and it bothers them.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
What's the opposite of a truther?
A liar. :)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
This '20 storey hole' in WTC 7 is a myth that these lie mercenaries post all over the internet.
It was in actual fact tapering superficial damage to one corner that did not even reach the 20th storey or compromise the building's structural integrity.
Don't believe a letter that comes from the fingertips of this particular neoconscript folks calling itself 'gabzz103'.
WTC 7 was pulled, and if you believe otherwise I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you :)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
I'll PM you a link to a photograph of that hole if you request it.
Please explain to me how WTC 7 was a controlled demolition without implying the NYFD who lost dozens of men on that day. Please explain to me how they all decided to help with a mass murder that day for the money or how all their testimony of the damage on that building is all false.
gabzz103 4 years ago
He'll PM me a link to a photo if I request it?
Why doesn't gabzz103 post the link here publicly if it truly reveals a '20 storey hole' as he claims?
He didn't because he knows he would show himself up for the LIAR that he is;
Here's a link to a photo of this gash to one corner and NO '20 storey hole' anywhere to be seen as falsely claimed;
wtc7*net/docs/June2004WTC7_Page_16_cropped*jpg
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
debunking911*com/wtc7damagecomposite*jpg
To not ignore this : How was WTC 7 a CD without having the firefighters taking part in the whole mass-murdering plot which included dozens of the own losing their lives that day?
Absolutely impossible.
gabzz103 4 years ago
Stop you lie mercenary with your strawman arguments.
Caught red handed lying about fictional '20 storey holes' you're now fooling no one but yourself with you're [repeat] strawman argument - YOU are the only one suggesting "...firefighters taking part in the whole mass-murdering plot..." - gabzz103
I never stated or even implied such a thing.
Retract that accusation now.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
I didn't say that. I'm asking how WTC 7 could've been demolished by explosives without having the NYFD involved.
How?
gabzz103 4 years ago
The NYFD are not a demolition company, they didn't and couldn't have possibly pulled WTC 7 despite Silverstein claiming that he ordered them to, what a stupid question!
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
No, but if it was a CD, they would've been involved in the whole mass-murder plot. They would've acted pretending that they thought it could collapse knowing they'd blow it up.
If WTC 7 was in fact a CD, how could the NYFD not have the blood of 3,000 people, including dozens of their own, on their hands?
gabzz103 4 years ago
the building was evacuated.
UNCERNTROPY 4 years ago
You're talking complete bullshit, you really have to be taking the piss here with that unutterable nonsense.
Go away and do some research gabzz103 and stop embarrassing yourself here with your warped logic and bizarre theories on this gravely serious subject.
Any estimates as to gabzz103's IQ folks?
Double figures maybe? :)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago