Labour betrayed us just have this vile coalition have, new parties will emerge out of the ashes of the revolution. The Pirate Party will gain ground, as it has in mainland Europe.
as a 14 year old girl i agree with him, and anyone who sais that he'll be ending up in some office (probaly like yourself), he will be fighting for equalness (spelled wrong),
That boy sounds just as posh as David Cameron! Stop pretending you're working class warriors, you'll be the same as most other rebellious student from previous generations, working for a big bank in your 9-5 job!
Where was you all when Labour was taking the country to the brink of bankruptcy? That is the reason tuition fees and cuts are taking place, but of course this is politically motivated by a left wing agenda.
And that is why the vast majority of the country do not support you.
The lefts answer to the huge amount of debt this country is in is more of the same.
@SuperZuffle well done - 2 lies in one short comment: Lie number 1: labour caused the deficit. No, bailing out the banks caused the deficit. Germany has a defict problem even though it has a Tory govt. The UK deficit is not historically high compared to GDP. Lie 2: the majority don't support the students. In fact opinion polls show the majority support the students and oppose the fees rise. Less than half the electorate voted for the Con-Dems. Thats no mandate - thats why you resort to lies.
@adycousins Well its not a lie actually. £4.8 trillion is the national debt or £80,000 per citizen if your including government debt, private debt, PFI liabilities and pension liabilities. This equates well over %100 of GDP up there with the likes of Greece and Ireland and we know what happened to them. The point being that one or more of the above components will default in the future, probably the one furthest in the future i.e pensions.... which one would you suggest ?
@adycousins I won't stoop to accuse you of lying but will correct your mistake.
Public spending under Labour rose whilst the private sector shrunk. The productive part of the economy was contracting while Blair and Brown spent millions on the unproductive part of the workforce.
The fact of the matter is that we are in a sorry state and right now need workers not students, lest the deficit crush us all.
@su79nioj The accusation that Labour's policies caused the recession is a Tory lie. Unless of course you mean their total failure to effectively regulate the banking sector. If we need workers not students then how come unemployment is rising? The deficit is not anywhere as large as it has been for most of Britains history when measured against GDP.
@adycousins It's a fact, not a lie supported by the banks, IMF and ever major UK political party - even the Greens. At what - 12%? 15%? our deficit is higher than nations where the IMF has already been called in. Free enterprise works, and creates productive jobs.
@su79nioj More nonsense, its not just a matter of % of GDP, UK debt is long term - ie there is no necessity to pay it back within months. Its and international crisis caused by the market you worship and prevented from becoming a catastrophe by the intervention of the public in the form of the state. The UK people should not be forced to pay the costs of bailing out the banks.
@adycousins To suggest that there is no urgency to pay back money owed upon demand demonstrates a repeated failure to understand the significance of the situation. I thought you a misunderstood equal. Having since learned about your beliefs I understand you to be a delusional fantasist, entrenched in archaic, idealistic solutions to complex problems.
A pragmatist understands that the annual tax from our banks pays for the NHS many times over - a point seemingly wasted on your defective logic.
@su79nioj You have absolutely no idea what you are on about, the banks hardly pay tax and that is the problem, they don't pay for the NHS. Sure the top executives may pay a small amount of tax while giving themselves 7 figure bonuses that aren't taxed while we are left to suffer. We had to bail them out due to their casino gambling that Labour allowed to continue after Thatcher brought it in. They should be paying for the deficit not us. Also that lie was not supported by the Greens, don't lie.
@air1883 You're sounding desperate in your delusional diktat!
Bankers pay 40% on their bonuses the same as any other taxpayer. That's an absolute fact, though it's just risen to 50%. The only exception to this are junior bankers who may be given cars etc as bonuses. All UK banks pay tax on their profits too - it's called Corporation Tax, and helps keep the UK economy strong.
Yes, the banks acted recklessly, but for every greedy lender there were 1,000 people who lied to obtain credit.
@su79nioj they will take it. The banks should have regulated it more. You think that the banks shouldn't pay more money into the economy? You think they should take all of the money for themselves? You think that they shouldn't pay back the money they took from the tax payer?
@air1883 Yes, there clearly has been a need for better bank regulation. I think we can all agree on that. No, I don't think that banks should be taxed more than any other business. Corporation tax is equal and fair considering it is often compounded by income tax and VAT. I think banks given public 'bail-out' ought to pay it back as a priority though.
@su79nioj Yeah, everyone agrees on the bank regulations, or everyone with a shred of common sense. How about this, the robin hood tax, 0.05% of every transaction between banks would be taxed not exactly much. However it would bring in 100 billion pounds a year, there would be no need for any cuts then.
@su79nioj One last thing, the banks pay corporation tax yeah? Well how about this for a statistic for you, HSBC have dodged 2 billion pounds worth of tax in the last year alone. With just that money there would be no need for cuts to housing benefit, I'm sure you don't care about things like this though.
@su79nioj Yeah but unfortunately the HMRC hasn't posted any of the tax dodging from the whole arcadia group to vodafone so they're not likely to start now are they?
@su79nioj What they say is that Labour did not protect public services enough and encouraged consumption too much however, they also criticise the Tories massively so don't take that out of context. The Tories are far worse. They may pay the same amount on their bonuses but they get too much for their bonuses, no-one else gets that much. Of course people were wrong in that respect but the banks didn't care about lending money to people with poor credit history. If you let them do that of course
@air1883 A person demanding a fair bonus for the success they have brought a company is classic socialism, weather a factory worker, footballer or banker. If I had made my company a substantial profit I would hope for at least acknowledgement of that, if not financial remuneration. I MO there are too many people demanding a share of other people's success without wanting to share their burden of the work.
@su79nioj Sorry if I'm being stupid but did you just say that demanding a bonus is socialism? If really hope that's not what you meant. Yeah of course you would want some financial remuneration but for example the head of Lloyds will gets millions in bonuses and he did a shit job so what does that say? To be honest you say that don't share the burden of the work but a nurse at an old person's home works just as hard as a banker, yet they don't get paid nearly as much.
In 1945 the deficit was over 240% of annual GDP yet we manged to create the NHS, the Welfare state and nationalise a number of industries whilst paying compensation
@SuperZuffle - the recession was caused by banks and the U.S. real estate bubble. Banks got bailed out and average people got sold out. We will no longer suck up the excesses of global capital. Your lies will not stand.
@NelSpringrose Rather than being a pedantic little prick why not try answering the question posted? Where were, or where was! The point of the argument is still the same. Im not sure what point your trying to make! oh and you forgot a full stop after point.
@SuperZuffle We all know the banks caused all these cuts, the coalition government has gone too far with these cuts. why don't they get the bankers profits and put that back where it belongs into the system and not their pockets as you can see the coalition government are on the brink of destroying the community yes we can see that the government is failing to listen to the people of this country They are bringing this country to its knees but at a rate where it will not recover
so his point is that that students finally are standing up & care & fight back- because something had an effect on THEM???? No, not protest people dying around the world, starving kids, war, no MY FEES ARE GOING UP SO I WON'T STAND FOR IT! and you wonder why WE'RE GOING BANKRUPT! That's courageous? And how mean the press is for pointing out the violence? And he makes nice elitist comment about how dumb you must be to end up a police officer?
This is brilliant. It's true that the media reports only on the negatives also, the news was plagued with the violence in London, but not once was it mentioned that demonstrators in Manchester were praised by the Greater Manchester Chief of Police. The negative portrayal of our generation is disgusting and it's brilliant to see you highlighting the positives. Kudos to you.
I didn't read all of the reactions; but did anyone notice the 'V'-shaped vein in this kid's neck, I think it's time to send some masks around and show the f*ing gouvernments, corperate overpowered lobbying media controlling company's that people indeed shouldn't be afraid of their gouvernments, gouvernments should be afraid of their people, VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!!
Coalitionofresistance, adycousins and wikileaks are most likely revive belief in new generation of students who genuinely and deeply care what is happening in the UK, USA and around the new world disorder created by PNAC fans. Stop wars to help fund education. Stop hate and racism. Love, peace and justice for all (as Brian Haw says). Well done AdyCounsins. Thanks for reassurance.
Brilliant speech, the world needs the young to fight back, too many people just sit back and say there's nothing they can do, they can, they should and you are doing it. Well done, I wish you were my son, I would be proud of you.
£9000 grand a year is nothing. What £13 a month?? Correct me please if I'm wrong but u students get smashed all the time and spend loads of the tax payers money on booze. To then not get job because you
Are stupid and inexperienced in every field
Of work, other than the stupid art degree you have chosen. Idiots. I have nothing against student becoming doctors, nurses, teachers etc but experience counts in (all company's ) fact!!!
@danielweeks414 You're and idiot yourself - the guy said he was 15 not in his twenties. I'd say he's more intelligent than you, just by the fact dumb people don't LISTEN correctly. The cuts will affect students taking degrees to be DOCTORS, NURSES, and TEACHERS - by the way, so you having "nothing against" *those* types of students makes no sense, they'll be affected just as much as the "Idiots" doing Art degrees as you so put it (BTW - EVERY skill needs training, didn't you get taught that?)
@danielweeks414 By the way your blocked, I can tell you are a malicious bitter Ignoramus that will be intent on spamming more useless waffle. I Can't have incoherent idiots clogging up comment notification inbox.
@01fey Great move. Free speech etc. Or is your opinion the only valid one? There's actually some merit in some of danielweeks posting. Students DO have an seemingly bottomless income when it comes to drinking and partying.As an adult learner not qualifying for grants/funding etc i had to work 2 jobs AND be a father to 2 kids when i was getting the qualifications i needed to pursue my career of choice. It astonished me how much my fellow students squandered their time in pursuits other than study
@danielweeks414 yes you are wrong and need correcting: £13*12months = £156, so you're still £8844 short for your first year of your degree there bud. The actual monthly figure, forgetting for now that uni is not attended every monght of the year, is £750 which makes you £737 short of the correct monthly amount. nice try though, I guess you haven't been to uni so your maths isn't very good. :)
This kid has no idea. How old must he be, early 20's?? How about he gets a job (in the real world) and stops being a naive prick who has no idea about how basic infrastructure of the economy works. A lesson learnt is a lesson to give. You my son have learnt nothing. Complete idiotic out of touch with 90% of the british (working tax paying public) twat!!! I pay hundreds on pounds of tax every week to fund you!!! Respect is earnt through hard work and you don't look like you've worked ever you n
How does the British tax system work? I had heard they pay a higher tax than the U.S. so their children don't have to pay for college. Am I correct when I say; the British government now wants the people to pay for this tuition and the government would keep charging the higher tax rate?
@imsuprised Yes...and the tuition rates (if schools decide to charge the maximum rate of 9,000 pounds a year) will be the most expensive public universities in the world. However, the government will give loans for this tuition to every student who wants to go. People will begin repaying when they hit a minimum income of 21,000 pounds/year, but because repayment is income dependent (and loan forgiveness is an option), the government may end up functionally paying for most of the degrees anyway
@imsuprised Also, people are looking at having their fees treble overnight, rather than an incremental increase each year until they hit the new maximum. Add on top of that the cost of room and board, decreasing contact time between students and staff (which is already atrociously low in some universities), and many many students will have no option but to take out the loans, so what has this new measure solved?
It's a great speech, but what does this guy stand for in terms of his ideals? Socialist, liberal, anachist? Police protest tactics are shit, & kettling just makes more anachists. Planed routes? WTF?
But then look at the tactics of student protesters. They are massively shit. They turn up to the protest with flares and snooker balls. What's that about? If you want to protest you should take helmets & shields! Roman tower shields are the best for protests & small dogs scare horses! Stand strong!
You adults need to protect this (boy) asset to freedom. The corrupt cops would love to kill him. Watch and protect him for he is a potential leader of freedom for your country.
We need more and more kids his age to stand up against corrupt government and no brained cops. He is absolutely brilliant.
He does not realize that the police are not his enemy… and that socialism IS! He is fighting for O.P.M. (Other People’s Money) to pay his tuition and because of his socialism… they ran out of O.P.M. This is what we will be facing here in the U.S., people used to their never-ending and increasing entitlements will be fighting the people that work and create the wealth. If he REALLY had Guts he would work and pay for his own tuition… Socialists are like “grown-up babies”. Waaa!
@fattchance6 on the minimum wage he could get as someone under the age of 21 in England, combined with the taxes and health insurance contribution he'd pay on that wage, there is no way that he could save up enough money to pay for school between, even if he worked during university. Also, the police were doing some pretty shitty things, including twice pulling a non-threatening quadriplegic man who can't even operate his own wheelchair out of his chair and dragging him across the road
This young man's moment at the mic should be put on a DVD, along with other similar clips. Does he have more footage from other events or venues?
The OneDollarDVDProject (com) has the will and the tools to build it, promote it and distribute it for a dollar or two each. Anyone want to help? We need more clips from stand-up folks like this young man.
@KnoxChai The solution is to promote inhouse training by employers. Too many people go to university, learning common sense concepts. It used to be the case that in the vast majority of jobs the employer provided you with all the training you needed, bespoke and to spec. A degree used to be proof of competency for Doctors and Astophysicists, not a factor in a papersift. People have become a commodity in the eyes of employers. THAT is what needs to change.
@StephenTheSte I'm sorry but no matter what happens humanity will eventually have to become a resource-based economy(sustainable), instead of a monetary systems(money-based). I honestly don't feel like explaining everything in this little box so if you want to learn more then visit this site:
@StephenTheSte and trust me it's not capitalism/communism, a conspiracy or anything else like that. if it was, then i wouldn't be wasting my time sending it to you. if you go to thezeitgeistmovement(dot)c0m then go into the F.A.Q and all your answers will be answered. ♥
@StephenTheSte The solution is to promote inhouse training by employers. Too many people go to university, learning common sense concepts. It used to be the case that in the vast majority of jobs the employer provided you with all the training you needed, bespoke and to spec. A degree used to be proof of competency for Doctors and Astophysicists, not a factor in a papersift. That is oh so true.
Your argument is non-sensical, though there are far too many people going to university.
To me - he is an element of the "sick society" you emotively descript. He has no idea how lucky he is, to be born in a country where his education EXISTS nevermind is essentially free. He doesn't even have to pay back a degree till over £21k p/a. This is merely a facuet from which you can view little wanna-be Che Guevara playing at running the world.
Police work relentlessly to keep society. They make huge personal sacrifies on a social level and they risk their lives for every one of us each and every day. They do their job, as they're ordered - as soldiers do. What does this little **** know of a hard days work? Of sacrifice and of the society he speaks?
He represents standing up for a popular oppinion within his juvinile peer group. He is by no means inspirational, He is nothing, stands for nothing and will lead us to nothing.
@StephenTheSte if we didn't have a sick society then there wouldn't be a need to have police officers trying to fix it's symptoms. I myself am 15 years old and I can not believe how much hate you seem to be putting out towards this boy. At least he is taking the time to speak up for what he believes is wrong. I
And explain to me a sustainable (Economic / Cultural) society wherein EVERYONE who THEORETICALLY can goes to univesity anyway?
The graduate jobs simply don't exist, and since everyone aspires to go to university by plain societal pressure, where does that leave us as a nation? A generation - a platitude - of jilted kids?
The system is at fault, the job market is at fault - and the expectations of the people such as you is at fault, you can't expect a handout ALL your life.
A big thank you to this young man. The point about this generation not being content in their Facebook profiles and TV screens is well spoken. Every young man and young woman who participates boldly and articulately is a credit to our society; for the common good. High Marks.
This lad is a natural public speaker! Whether you agree with the cuts or not, its good to see young people getting politicized again. It keeps the government on its toes. And we need more young voters
utterly inspiring speech. post-ideological generation, end of history, Marx is dead. Why, oh why, is it so necessary for the ruling class to keep repeating these things over and over?
Something needs to be done, and like the young of the Sixties, it is the youths who are standing up and highlighting the seize mentality the Ruling Classes have us all under! And make no mistake the media is at the forefront of that imprisonment. Right is on your side!!!!!!!!! PEACE
@SameWayOfSaying It was unfair that some tax payers pay more towards the university fees than others, that’s unjust.
Lastly, there is other routes to a good career other than university. For example in business, people learn more from the 3 years in an apprenticeship than 3 years in university. There are many influential people who dropped out of school early and have made a great career of it. It will put apprenticeship back to how they were. Harder to get.
@SameWayOfSaying I believe it will be for the educated and enthusiastic. If people wanted it enough, and were driven towards doing well in the futere, then they will pay the short term costs, as well as there being a scholarship programme.
|the counrty can't keep going on spending money we don't have, or we will get to a point where we will not be lent money, and the counrty will depreciate into a country where no one wants to be, therefore GDP falling anyway.
@SameWayOfSaying We will not know what the market forces until the time comes.
If, as you say, the courses you listed will become untennable, then surely people with these degrees will become more scarce, therefore be able to name a price for the service they provide. If this is what people enjoy, then this is the route they have to go down, people have to enjoy their jobs.
@SameWayOfSayingThey will not become ''meaningless pursuits''. Not everyone is driven by money, some people are driven by reaching the top of their field and gaining a reputation worth trying for. These are the people who have really done well in life, people who work hard and try to do the best with what they have, not greedy people who only care about money. It will be an interesting test on what drives peopple, but I do not believe that it is bound by de jure control.
@SameWayOfSaying Thirdly, academic institutions- This is kind of repeating yourself really, just put into different context to make your point sound more credible.
Lastly, meritocracy- A ruling or influential class of educated or skilled people. If a person has the potential, then, as I said before, they can be a part o the scholarship programme.
@SameWayOfSaying Thirdly, academic institutions- This is kind of repeating yourself really, just put into different context to make your point sound more credible.
Lastly, meritocracy- A ruling or influential class of educated or skilled people. If a person has the potential, then, as I said before, they can be a part o the scholarship programme.
@SameWayOfSaying I don't understand how you can say ‘’decline of everything western civilisation prides itself in; education, freedom of academic institutions and meritocracy.''
firstly, education- Their is still education available so that is totally invalid
Secondly, freedom- Universities have always based accepting applicants on ability before anything else. If an applicant has the ability to do well but has no means of paying, their is still a scholarship programme available.
@SameWayOfSaying I feel that the language you have used sounds intelectual, however the content, not so much
The problem we face is that neither side of the argument can be fully justified nor condemned, both sides have a valid point. However, higher education is definately a privilege, i think you'll find that only around 4 ''western'' countries have free higher education.
Thanks for uploading. My respect for your courage and your words. It pays to stand up and fight abuses of justice. In solidarity, to stand up and hope that we will be together and make a lot of resistance to injustice,
idiots, you fools, why don't you pick up the book Fire in the Minds of men, understand where you are getting your ideas. From German occultism, Luciferianism of the Romantic period. The fire of lucifer, or prometheus the fire of rebellion, death, destruction, murder. Your supposed movement always results in guillotines, massacres, and a blood drenched country. You're no defender of liberty or freedom, just a promoter of death and blood.
It's unbelievable how naive people are, ever thought about the debt of the country??
If cuts aren't made from higher education, which is not a right but a privilege, then it will be from healthcare or more important things, everything is getting a cut (other than foreign aid) it's not like they have victimized education
Also it will stop people going to university not knowing what to do with the degree they get, and make people weigh up the options of the degree
@jackbisley It's unbelievable that you can view higher education as a privilege. The fact is that cuts like this symbolise the decline of everything western civilisation prides itself in; education, freedom of academic institutions and meritocracy. Education is the most obvious problem here. This legislation greatly limits the sophistication of academic establishments; 80% cuts in government expenditure and three fold rises in fees will make the pursuit of humanities course untennable.
@jackbisley This means that degrees that speak to the human consciousness and the soul of mankind such as literature, history, philosophy or sociology become meaningless pursuits as they don't advance the assinine cause of making money which seems to dominate modern society. This ties to the freedom of academic establishments. Whilst they will have de jure control of what they teach, they will be increasingly pressured into providing courses that respond to market forces, thereby curtailing...
@jackbisley freedom of intellectual thought and discource. Finally, and most importantly, education is now the domain of the wealthy. Everything that we have come to value in social liberalism has been unceremoniously flushed away for the short term gain of lower finacial cost. The great problem is, that once these rights have been ignored, or worse, marginalised, they are never coming back; it has taken centuries of enlightened thinkers to arrive at the idea of free thought and meritocracy
@jackbisley and once we have given up these rights for all men and women, they are not coming back. At least, not in an era dominated by mind numbing reality television and property development programs that emphasise competition and monetary gains over enrichment of the human condition.
@HizXcelency the whole idea of the next generation inheriting the world is a myth, the world will always be incontrol of the likes of illuminati, bildergerg, the freemasons. nice thought though :)
@fiftyninechickens well it will if everyone believes that and consequently does nothing to try to change it. I see what you're saying and I agree it's a tall order, but even they will have next generations, with enough spread of awareness who knows...
@arumdevil Yes ofcourse! I agree entirely with optimism, but my first comment was just after a whole loada' research on the new world order, so it was kinda' pesimstic.
@fiftyninechickens yeah fair enough. I go through cycles of 'researching' that sort of thing so I know what you mean, it does tend to suck you in fascinated, and spit you out a bit pissed off and worked up. To be honest I think it will all buckle under it's own weight with the way things are going. I think it's all just going too far too fast and I can't see the system coping with itself... I hope I'm not wrong. peace.
The problem is!... People need to understand that if people care about morality, equality; To put into one word 'fairness'. Then don't vote for conservative... The political ideology is staring you in the face with the party name :P.
'They can't stop us demonstrating' - Too right, they can't. The only thing that has been stopping people is apathy. I am glad that the UK seems to be waking up at last. I'll be on the next march I can join.
Labour betrayed us just have this vile coalition have, new parties will emerge out of the ashes of the revolution. The Pirate Party will gain ground, as it has in mainland Europe.
stop1984now 4 months ago
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SailorxVenus 5 months ago 9
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siksikaX 5 months ago
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joinusinsong 8 months ago
Good speech save for your elitist comment about people doing a certain job you don't like because they didn't have a university education.
drongovids 10 months ago
as a 14 year old girl i agree with him, and anyone who sais that he'll be ending up in some office (probaly like yourself), he will be fighting for equalness (spelled wrong),
lunaissoawesome 10 months ago
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joinusinsong 10 months ago
This kid is an elitist little scummer.
Yeah, fight back folks, for more state, more indoctrination, more brainwashing, more control.
Withdraw and resist.
lemmidos 1 year ago
This boy is cringeworthy.
gorgiematt 1 year ago 3
1. Barnaby Raine is a fifteen year old student and activist ; what is his message concerning his/your generation? <<< Can someone answer this?
XxYannickxX500 1 year ago
That boy sounds just as posh as David Cameron! Stop pretending you're working class warriors, you'll be the same as most other rebellious student from previous generations, working for a big bank in your 9-5 job!
gorgiematt 1 year ago
i wish i was this confident when i was 15
Special162 1 year ago
Where was you all when Labour was taking the country to the brink of bankruptcy? That is the reason tuition fees and cuts are taking place, but of course this is politically motivated by a left wing agenda.
And that is why the vast majority of the country do not support you.
The lefts answer to the huge amount of debt this country is in is more of the same.
SuperZuffle 1 year ago
@SuperZuffle well done - 2 lies in one short comment: Lie number 1: labour caused the deficit. No, bailing out the banks caused the deficit. Germany has a defict problem even though it has a Tory govt. The UK deficit is not historically high compared to GDP. Lie 2: the majority don't support the students. In fact opinion polls show the majority support the students and oppose the fees rise. Less than half the electorate voted for the Con-Dems. Thats no mandate - thats why you resort to lies.
adycousins 1 year ago 5
@adycousins Well its not a lie actually. £4.8 trillion is the national debt or £80,000 per citizen if your including government debt, private debt, PFI liabilities and pension liabilities. This equates well over %100 of GDP up there with the likes of Greece and Ireland and we know what happened to them. The point being that one or more of the above components will default in the future, probably the one furthest in the future i.e pensions.... which one would you suggest ?
SuperZuffle 1 year ago 4
@adycousins I won't stoop to accuse you of lying but will correct your mistake.
Public spending under Labour rose whilst the private sector shrunk. The productive part of the economy was contracting while Blair and Brown spent millions on the unproductive part of the workforce.
The fact of the matter is that we are in a sorry state and right now need workers not students, lest the deficit crush us all.
su79nioj 1 year ago
@su79nioj The accusation that Labour's policies caused the recession is a Tory lie. Unless of course you mean their total failure to effectively regulate the banking sector. If we need workers not students then how come unemployment is rising? The deficit is not anywhere as large as it has been for most of Britains history when measured against GDP.
adycousins 1 year ago 6
@adycousins It's a fact, not a lie supported by the banks, IMF and ever major UK political party - even the Greens. At what - 12%? 15%? our deficit is higher than nations where the IMF has already been called in. Free enterprise works, and creates productive jobs.
su79nioj 1 year ago
@su79nioj More nonsense, its not just a matter of % of GDP, UK debt is long term - ie there is no necessity to pay it back within months. Its and international crisis caused by the market you worship and prevented from becoming a catastrophe by the intervention of the public in the form of the state. The UK people should not be forced to pay the costs of bailing out the banks.
adycousins 1 year ago 7
@adycousins To suggest that there is no urgency to pay back money owed upon demand demonstrates a repeated failure to understand the significance of the situation. I thought you a misunderstood equal. Having since learned about your beliefs I understand you to be a delusional fantasist, entrenched in archaic, idealistic solutions to complex problems.
A pragmatist understands that the annual tax from our banks pays for the NHS many times over - a point seemingly wasted on your defective logic.
su79nioj 1 year ago 4
@su79nioj You have absolutely no idea what you are on about, the banks hardly pay tax and that is the problem, they don't pay for the NHS. Sure the top executives may pay a small amount of tax while giving themselves 7 figure bonuses that aren't taxed while we are left to suffer. We had to bail them out due to their casino gambling that Labour allowed to continue after Thatcher brought it in. They should be paying for the deficit not us. Also that lie was not supported by the Greens, don't lie.
air1883 1 year ago
@air1883 You're sounding desperate in your delusional diktat!
Bankers pay 40% on their bonuses the same as any other taxpayer. That's an absolute fact, though it's just risen to 50%. The only exception to this are junior bankers who may be given cars etc as bonuses. All UK banks pay tax on their profits too - it's called Corporation Tax, and helps keep the UK economy strong.
Yes, the banks acted recklessly, but for every greedy lender there were 1,000 people who lied to obtain credit.
su79nioj 1 year ago 3
@su79nioj they will take it. The banks should have regulated it more. You think that the banks shouldn't pay more money into the economy? You think they should take all of the money for themselves? You think that they shouldn't pay back the money they took from the tax payer?
air1883 1 year ago
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WIltshireByways 1 year ago
@air1883 Yes, there clearly has been a need for better bank regulation. I think we can all agree on that. No, I don't think that banks should be taxed more than any other business. Corporation tax is equal and fair considering it is often compounded by income tax and VAT. I think banks given public 'bail-out' ought to pay it back as a priority though.
su79nioj 1 year ago 3
@su79nioj Yeah, everyone agrees on the bank regulations, or everyone with a shred of common sense. How about this, the robin hood tax, 0.05% of every transaction between banks would be taxed not exactly much. However it would bring in 100 billion pounds a year, there would be no need for any cuts then.
air1883 1 year ago
@su79nioj One last thing, the banks pay corporation tax yeah? Well how about this for a statistic for you, HSBC have dodged 2 billion pounds worth of tax in the last year alone. With just that money there would be no need for cuts to housing benefit, I'm sure you don't care about things like this though.
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WIltshireByways 1 year ago
@air1883 Says who? The HMRC site doesn't suggest that they are Britain's biggest fraudsters - neither does the 'London's Most Wanted' police site.
su79nioj 1 year ago 2
@su79nioj Yeah but unfortunately the HMRC hasn't posted any of the tax dodging from the whole arcadia group to vodafone so they're not likely to start now are they?
air1883 1 year ago
@air1883 You can review the Green Party's commitment to 'Halving the Deficit' by reading their 2010 election manifesto.
It's in 'Chapter 1 - The Economy'.
su79nioj 1 year ago 2
@su79nioj What they say is that Labour did not protect public services enough and encouraged consumption too much however, they also criticise the Tories massively so don't take that out of context. The Tories are far worse. They may pay the same amount on their bonuses but they get too much for their bonuses, no-one else gets that much. Of course people were wrong in that respect but the banks didn't care about lending money to people with poor credit history. If you let them do that of course
air1883 1 year ago
@air1883 A person demanding a fair bonus for the success they have brought a company is classic socialism, weather a factory worker, footballer or banker. If I had made my company a substantial profit I would hope for at least acknowledgement of that, if not financial remuneration. I MO there are too many people demanding a share of other people's success without wanting to share their burden of the work.
su79nioj 1 year ago 3
@su79nioj Sorry if I'm being stupid but did you just say that demanding a bonus is socialism? If really hope that's not what you meant. Yeah of course you would want some financial remuneration but for example the head of Lloyds will gets millions in bonuses and he did a shit job so what does that say? To be honest you say that don't share the burden of the work but a nurse at an old person's home works just as hard as a banker, yet they don't get paid nearly as much.
air1883 1 year ago
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air1883 1 year ago
In 1945 the deficit was over 240% of annual GDP yet we manged to create the NHS, the Welfare state and nationalise a number of industries whilst paying compensation
adycousins 1 year ago 4
@SuperZuffle - the recession was caused by banks and the U.S. real estate bubble. Banks got bailed out and average people got sold out. We will no longer suck up the excesses of global capital. Your lies will not stand.
RasSparkasse 1 year ago
@SuperZuffle where WERE you all not where WAS you all
I think that's enough to make my point
NelSpringrose 1 year ago
@SuperZuffle where WERE you all not where WAS you all
I think that's enough to make my point
NelSpringrose 1 year ago
@NelSpringrose Rather than being a pedantic little prick why not try answering the question posted? Where were, or where was! The point of the argument is still the same. Im not sure what point your trying to make! oh and you forgot a full stop after point.
SuperZuffle 1 year ago
@SuperZuffle We all know the banks caused all these cuts, the coalition government has gone too far with these cuts. why don't they get the bankers profits and put that back where it belongs into the system and not their pockets as you can see the coalition government are on the brink of destroying the community yes we can see that the government is failing to listen to the people of this country They are bringing this country to its knees but at a rate where it will not recover
kmostudios 1 year ago
@SuperZuffle The logical step one takes following an economic recession is not to increase student fees.
drongovids 10 months ago
NO JUSTICE NO PEACE, FUCK THE POLICE
ovdvelde 1 year ago 2
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Denidorm 1 year ago
This kid just empowered the shit out of me. Great message. Great delivery.
muzicguru 1 year ago
This kid just empowered the shit out of me. Great message. Great delivery.
muzicguru 1 year ago
CAN I ADOPT U ?
Solecism111 1 year ago
so his point is that that students finally are standing up & care & fight back- because something had an effect on THEM???? No, not protest people dying around the world, starving kids, war, no MY FEES ARE GOING UP SO I WON'T STAND FOR IT! and you wonder why WE'RE GOING BANKRUPT! That's courageous? And how mean the press is for pointing out the violence? And he makes nice elitist comment about how dumb you must be to end up a police officer?
bloodyrichhutchins 1 year ago
This is brilliant. It's true that the media reports only on the negatives also, the news was plagued with the violence in London, but not once was it mentioned that demonstrators in Manchester were praised by the Greater Manchester Chief of Police. The negative portrayal of our generation is disgusting and it's brilliant to see you highlighting the positives. Kudos to you.
joe45363 1 year ago 2
al jazeera english showed this vid. good job.
alovelytime 1 year ago
Seriously, seriously impressive. I wish the media *would* show speeches like this when covering the protests . .
And goodness, I could never, ever have made a speech like that. A young Tony Benn, methinks?
j2omangoapple 1 year ago
Students take note. That guy is full of passion. He is full of life. That guy is SO getting laid.
:D
TheHolySpirit 1 year ago 3
Brilliant speech by this young man, just hope he doesn't become a politician.
Reznor879 1 year ago 33
@Reznor879
Remember his name in 20 years :)
androoks 1 year ago
Go on! Solidarity from Italy!
alessandrodirenzo 1 year ago
DAMN! this has gone viral!
Well done Barnaby :D x
vidscroungerxD 1 year ago
This kid is amazing!
andipoetic 1 year ago
This is embarrassing! A 15 year old knows how to speak up better then us older folks. Seems he can all teach us something!!!!
NotinmywaterCornwall 1 year ago
brilliant, just brilliant. Spread that attitude to all your peers, grow the resistance!
arumdevil 1 year ago
I didn't read all of the reactions; but did anyone notice the 'V'-shaped vein in this kid's neck, I think it's time to send some masks around and show the f*ing gouvernments, corperate overpowered lobbying media controlling company's that people indeed shouldn't be afraid of their gouvernments, gouvernments should be afraid of their people, VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!!
SirRender9000 1 year ago
i love it how someone at the end goes BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!
cramham 1 year ago
Coalitionofresistance, adycousins and wikileaks are most likely revive belief in new generation of students who genuinely and deeply care what is happening in the UK, USA and around the new world disorder created by PNAC fans. Stop wars to help fund education. Stop hate and racism. Love, peace and justice for all (as Brian Haw says). Well done AdyCounsins. Thanks for reassurance.
spsyed 1 year ago
'Grown up' keep thinking that we will solve the problems they create... they'll never learn, and we need to solve them??? that ain't right...
yes 'GROWN UPS' ....
geunsjl 1 year ago
Brilliant speech, the world needs the young to fight back, too many people just sit back and say there's nothing they can do, they can, they should and you are doing it. Well done, I wish you were my son, I would be proud of you.
tullygeevagh 1 year ago
£9000 grand a year is nothing. What £13 a month?? Correct me please if I'm wrong but u students get smashed all the time and spend loads of the tax payers money on booze. To then not get job because you
Are stupid and inexperienced in every field
Of work, other than the stupid art degree you have chosen. Idiots. I have nothing against student becoming doctors, nurses, teachers etc but experience counts in (all company's ) fact!!!
danielweeks414 1 year ago
@danielweeks414 You're and idiot yourself - the guy said he was 15 not in his twenties. I'd say he's more intelligent than you, just by the fact dumb people don't LISTEN correctly. The cuts will affect students taking degrees to be DOCTORS, NURSES, and TEACHERS - by the way, so you having "nothing against" *those* types of students makes no sense, they'll be affected just as much as the "Idiots" doing Art degrees as you so put it (BTW - EVERY skill needs training, didn't you get taught that?)
01fey 1 year ago
@danielweeks414 By the way your blocked, I can tell you are a malicious bitter Ignoramus that will be intent on spamming more useless waffle. I Can't have incoherent idiots clogging up comment notification inbox.
01fey 1 year ago
@01fey Great move. Free speech etc. Or is your opinion the only valid one? There's actually some merit in some of danielweeks posting. Students DO have an seemingly bottomless income when it comes to drinking and partying.As an adult learner not qualifying for grants/funding etc i had to work 2 jobs AND be a father to 2 kids when i was getting the qualifications i needed to pursue my career of choice. It astonished me how much my fellow students squandered their time in pursuits other than study
TheMiskeys 1 year ago
@danielweeks414 yes you are wrong and need correcting: £13*12months = £156, so you're still £8844 short for your first year of your degree there bud. The actual monthly figure, forgetting for now that uni is not attended every monght of the year, is £750 which makes you £737 short of the correct monthly amount. nice try though, I guess you haven't been to uni so your maths isn't very good. :)
arumdevil 1 year ago
This kid has no idea. How old must he be, early 20's?? How about he gets a job (in the real world) and stops being a naive prick who has no idea about how basic infrastructure of the economy works. A lesson learnt is a lesson to give. You my son have learnt nothing. Complete idiotic out of touch with 90% of the british (working tax paying public) twat!!! I pay hundreds on pounds of tax every week to fund you!!! Respect is earnt through hard work and you don't look like you've worked ever you n
danielweeks414 1 year ago
@danielweeks414 asshole
arumdevil 1 year ago
@EmoStarcraft
I already have, please refer to my previous comments.
StephenTheSte 1 year ago
stop the repeating!! I hate those speech tricks to capture the crowd.
DisguiseDK 1 year ago
@EmoStarcraft
Emo... Starcraft...
Your very name quotes an abhorrent import from America, the "Emo", and a Computer game.
From your previous post and by serendipitous intuition, you sir, need to get out more.
StephenTheSte 1 year ago
He's on fire! Way to go, man. Keep it up. Respect from USA.
sethmest 1 year ago
wonderfully eloquent speech
ovdvelde 1 year ago
He sounds like Tony Blair.....Tony Blair mini me....
crapgame11 1 year ago
brillian kid ! VIVA LA RESISTANCE !
buttscrather12 1 year ago
The RESISTANCE is REAL! YEAAAHH! \o/
Starlightabove 1 year ago
this kid keeps it 100!
jag101491 1 year ago
Fucking right!
FelipeSparx29 1 year ago
if he carries on down the speechmaking route he's going to be the best orator the world has seen since hitler.
JackyRowe 1 year ago
@JackyRowe what i was thinking
gypson 1 year ago
How does the British tax system work? I had heard they pay a higher tax than the U.S. so their children don't have to pay for college. Am I correct when I say; the British government now wants the people to pay for this tuition and the government would keep charging the higher tax rate?
imsuprised 1 year ago
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Aurora7N 1 year ago
@imsuprised Yes...and the tuition rates (if schools decide to charge the maximum rate of 9,000 pounds a year) will be the most expensive public universities in the world. However, the government will give loans for this tuition to every student who wants to go. People will begin repaying when they hit a minimum income of 21,000 pounds/year, but because repayment is income dependent (and loan forgiveness is an option), the government may end up functionally paying for most of the degrees anyway
Aurora7N 1 year ago
@imsuprised Also, people are looking at having their fees treble overnight, rather than an incremental increase each year until they hit the new maximum. Add on top of that the cost of room and board, decreasing contact time between students and staff (which is already atrociously low in some universities), and many many students will have no option but to take out the loans, so what has this new measure solved?
Aurora7N 1 year ago
This boy would get more votes than Nick Clegg now if he was in the election
thecassieireland 1 year ago
This boy would get more votes than Nick Clegg now if he was in the elction
thecassieireland 1 year ago
It's a great speech, but what does this guy stand for in terms of his ideals? Socialist, liberal, anachist? Police protest tactics are shit, & kettling just makes more anachists. Planed routes? WTF?
But then look at the tactics of student protesters. They are massively shit. They turn up to the protest with flares and snooker balls. What's that about? If you want to protest you should take helmets & shields! Roman tower shields are the best for protests & small dogs scare horses! Stand strong!
Munchimon 1 year ago
FIGHT THE POWER!..that dudes going to be someone one day.
Reynaldo866 1 year ago
Support from Canada. The fight has just begun.
bryan333333333333333 1 year ago
You adults need to protect this (boy) asset to freedom. The corrupt cops would love to kill him. Watch and protect him for he is a potential leader of freedom for your country.
We need more and more kids his age to stand up against corrupt government and no brained cops. He is absolutely brilliant.
padrak18 1 year ago
@Liam1993R it just might, in 30-40 years time, unless it becomes democratic
5600167 1 year ago
he bunked off school the next day too, to go and watch harry potter.
Liquidium 1 year ago
He does not realize that the police are not his enemy… and that socialism IS! He is fighting for O.P.M. (Other People’s Money) to pay his tuition and because of his socialism… they ran out of O.P.M. This is what we will be facing here in the U.S., people used to their never-ending and increasing entitlements will be fighting the people that work and create the wealth. If he REALLY had Guts he would work and pay for his own tuition… Socialists are like “grown-up babies”. Waaa!
fattchance6 1 year ago
@fattchance6 on the minimum wage he could get as someone under the age of 21 in England, combined with the taxes and health insurance contribution he'd pay on that wage, there is no way that he could save up enough money to pay for school between, even if he worked during university. Also, the police were doing some pretty shitty things, including twice pulling a non-threatening quadriplegic man who can't even operate his own wheelchair out of his chair and dragging him across the road
Aurora7N 1 year ago
Beware of Jews and their ideologies.
paulgnr 1 year ago
he is upset because Dobby died
psychopathtoine 1 year ago 2
Brilliant speech ! Go on with the fight guys ! Solidarity from Belgium.
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alessandrodirenzo 1 year ago
@abertul Indeed solidarity from Belgium! Go on with your fight it is admirable.
Matthiaz131 1 year ago
@abertul we also have to get on the streets, and fight for our rights !
mathiaske3 1 year ago
This young man's moment at the mic should be put on a DVD, along with other similar clips. Does he have more footage from other events or venues?
The OneDollarDVDProject (com) has the will and the tools to build it, promote it and distribute it for a dollar or two each. Anyone want to help? We need more clips from stand-up folks like this young man.
Thumbs Up this idea, please.
ronaldneil 1 year ago
raarse is that harry potter
LeathalM 1 year ago
Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aquariussouldier 1 year ago
@KnoxChai The solution is to promote inhouse training by employers. Too many people go to university, learning common sense concepts. It used to be the case that in the vast majority of jobs the employer provided you with all the training you needed, bespoke and to spec. A degree used to be proof of competency for Doctors and Astophysicists, not a factor in a papersift. People have become a commodity in the eyes of employers. THAT is what needs to change.
StephenTheSte 1 year ago 10
@StephenTheSte I'm sorry but no matter what happens humanity will eventually have to become a resource-based economy(sustainable), instead of a monetary systems(money-based). I honestly don't feel like explaining everything in this little box so if you want to learn more then visit this site:
youtube.com/user/TZMOfficialChannel#p/a/f/2/9rAQeBx22cU :)
KnoxChai 1 year ago
@StephenTheSte and trust me it's not capitalism/communism, a conspiracy or anything else like that. if it was, then i wouldn't be wasting my time sending it to you. if you go to thezeitgeistmovement(dot)c0m then go into the F.A.Q and all your answers will be answered. ♥
KnoxChai 1 year ago
@StephenTheSte Well said!!!
Aurora7N 1 year ago
@StephenTheSte its a world wide problem with stupid bosses....
Prometheus3052 1 year ago
@StephenTheSte The solution is to promote inhouse training by employers. Too many people go to university, learning common sense concepts. It used to be the case that in the vast majority of jobs the employer provided you with all the training you needed, bespoke and to spec. A degree used to be proof of competency for Doctors and Astophysicists, not a factor in a papersift. That is oh so true.
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StephenTheSte 1 year ago
@KnoxChai I am 19, and I used to be this kid.
Your argument is non-sensical, though there are far too many people going to university.
To me - he is an element of the "sick society" you emotively descript. He has no idea how lucky he is, to be born in a country where his education EXISTS nevermind is essentially free. He doesn't even have to pay back a degree till over £21k p/a. This is merely a facuet from which you can view little wanna-be Che Guevara playing at running the world.
StephenTheSte 1 year ago 3
@StephenTheSte
His name is Barnaby Raine.
He goes to Westminster School, one of the most prestigious and expensive schools in England.
He is obviously the precocious offspring of champagne socialists.
kinkynik69 1 year ago
Police work relentlessly to keep society. They make huge personal sacrifies on a social level and they risk their lives for every one of us each and every day. They do their job, as they're ordered - as soldiers do. What does this little **** know of a hard days work? Of sacrifice and of the society he speaks?
He represents standing up for a popular oppinion within his juvinile peer group. He is by no means inspirational, He is nothing, stands for nothing and will lead us to nothing.
StephenTheSte 1 year ago 3
@StephenTheSte if we didn't have a sick society then there wouldn't be a need to have police officers trying to fix it's symptoms. I myself am 15 years old and I can not believe how much hate you seem to be putting out towards this boy. At least he is taking the time to speak up for what he believes is wrong. I
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StephenTheSte 1 year ago
@KnoxChai
And explain to me a sustainable (Economic / Cultural) society wherein EVERYONE who THEORETICALLY can goes to univesity anyway?
The graduate jobs simply don't exist, and since everyone aspires to go to university by plain societal pressure, where does that leave us as a nation? A generation - a platitude - of jilted kids?
The system is at fault, the job market is at fault - and the expectations of the people such as you is at fault, you can't expect a handout ALL your life.
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A big thank you to this young man. The point about this generation not being content in their Facebook profiles and TV screens is well spoken. Every young man and young woman who participates boldly and articulately is a credit to our society; for the common good. High Marks.
SkyeRangerNick 1 year ago
anyone know who this kid is?
NaworForSure 1 year ago
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StephenTheSte 1 year ago
This lad is a natural public speaker! Whether you agree with the cuts or not, its good to see young people getting politicized again. It keeps the government on its toes. And we need more young voters
tomemery26 1 year ago 2
Well done we are behind you.
phillemare 1 year ago
utterly inspiring speech. post-ideological generation, end of history, Marx is dead. Why, oh why, is it so necessary for the ruling class to keep repeating these things over and over?
LunaSlave 1 year ago
who is this kid does he have a youtube channel?
ToiletsRuleAll 1 year ago
yes, destroy the faschist regime.
replay 1789
morpheus341 1 year ago
Excellent! What an outstanding and relevant speech...now lets just hope the government stand up and take notice! :)
raspberrycups 1 year ago
Something needs to be done, and like the young of the Sixties, it is the youths who are standing up and highlighting the seize mentality the Ruling Classes have us all under! And make no mistake the media is at the forefront of that imprisonment. Right is on your side!!!!!!!!! PEACE
MoffiMedia 1 year ago
@SameWayOfSaying It was unfair that some tax payers pay more towards the university fees than others, that’s unjust.
Lastly, there is other routes to a good career other than university. For example in business, people learn more from the 3 years in an apprenticeship than 3 years in university. There are many influential people who dropped out of school early and have made a great career of it. It will put apprenticeship back to how they were. Harder to get.
jackbisley 1 year ago
@SameWayOfSaying I believe it will be for the educated and enthusiastic. If people wanted it enough, and were driven towards doing well in the futere, then they will pay the short term costs, as well as there being a scholarship programme.
|the counrty can't keep going on spending money we don't have, or we will get to a point where we will not be lent money, and the counrty will depreciate into a country where no one wants to be, therefore GDP falling anyway.
jackbisley 1 year ago
@SameWayOfSaying We will not know what the market forces until the time comes.
If, as you say, the courses you listed will become untennable, then surely people with these degrees will become more scarce, therefore be able to name a price for the service they provide. If this is what people enjoy, then this is the route they have to go down, people have to enjoy their jobs.
jackbisley 1 year ago
@SameWayOfSayingThey will not become ''meaningless pursuits''. Not everyone is driven by money, some people are driven by reaching the top of their field and gaining a reputation worth trying for. These are the people who have really done well in life, people who work hard and try to do the best with what they have, not greedy people who only care about money. It will be an interesting test on what drives peopple, but I do not believe that it is bound by de jure control.
jackbisley 1 year ago
@SameWayOfSaying Thirdly, academic institutions- This is kind of repeating yourself really, just put into different context to make your point sound more credible.
Lastly, meritocracy- A ruling or influential class of educated or skilled people. If a person has the potential, then, as I said before, they can be a part o the scholarship programme.
jackbisley 1 year ago
@SameWayOfSaying Thirdly, academic institutions- This is kind of repeating yourself really, just put into different context to make your point sound more credible.
Lastly, meritocracy- A ruling or influential class of educated or skilled people. If a person has the potential, then, as I said before, they can be a part o the scholarship programme.
jackbisley 1 year ago
@SameWayOfSaying I don't understand how you can say ‘’decline of everything western civilisation prides itself in; education, freedom of academic institutions and meritocracy.''
firstly, education- Their is still education available so that is totally invalid
Secondly, freedom- Universities have always based accepting applicants on ability before anything else. If an applicant has the ability to do well but has no means of paying, their is still a scholarship programme available.
jackbisley 1 year ago
@SameWayOfSaying I feel that the language you have used sounds intelectual, however the content, not so much
The problem we face is that neither side of the argument can be fully justified nor condemned, both sides have a valid point. However, higher education is definately a privilege, i think you'll find that only around 4 ''western'' countries have free higher education.
jackbisley 1 year ago
last wednesday happened whatt?
MarshallWriter 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading. My respect for your courage and your words. It pays to stand up and fight abuses of justice. In solidarity, to stand up and hope that we will be together and make a lot of resistance to injustice,
Inge
NachDenkSeitenInge 1 year ago
Absolute G, all the best for the future. Stay blessed.
xXrickstarXx 1 year ago
idiots, you fools, why don't you pick up the book Fire in the Minds of men, understand where you are getting your ideas. From German occultism, Luciferianism of the Romantic period. The fire of lucifer, or prometheus the fire of rebellion, death, destruction, murder. Your supposed movement always results in guillotines, massacres, and a blood drenched country. You're no defender of liberty or freedom, just a promoter of death and blood.
orderslayer1 1 year ago
It's unbelievable how naive people are, ever thought about the debt of the country??
If cuts aren't made from higher education, which is not a right but a privilege, then it will be from healthcare or more important things, everything is getting a cut (other than foreign aid) it's not like they have victimized education
Also it will stop people going to university not knowing what to do with the degree they get, and make people weigh up the options of the degree
jackbisley 1 year ago
@jackbisley It's unbelievable that you can view higher education as a privilege. The fact is that cuts like this symbolise the decline of everything western civilisation prides itself in; education, freedom of academic institutions and meritocracy. Education is the most obvious problem here. This legislation greatly limits the sophistication of academic establishments; 80% cuts in government expenditure and three fold rises in fees will make the pursuit of humanities course untennable.
SameWayOfSaying 1 year ago
@jackbisley This means that degrees that speak to the human consciousness and the soul of mankind such as literature, history, philosophy or sociology become meaningless pursuits as they don't advance the assinine cause of making money which seems to dominate modern society. This ties to the freedom of academic establishments. Whilst they will have de jure control of what they teach, they will be increasingly pressured into providing courses that respond to market forces, thereby curtailing...
SameWayOfSaying 1 year ago
@jackbisley freedom of intellectual thought and discource. Finally, and most importantly, education is now the domain of the wealthy. Everything that we have come to value in social liberalism has been unceremoniously flushed away for the short term gain of lower finacial cost. The great problem is, that once these rights have been ignored, or worse, marginalised, they are never coming back; it has taken centuries of enlightened thinkers to arrive at the idea of free thought and meritocracy
SameWayOfSaying 1 year ago
@jackbisley and once we have given up these rights for all men and women, they are not coming back. At least, not in an era dominated by mind numbing reality television and property development programs that emphasise competition and monetary gains over enrichment of the human condition.
SameWayOfSaying 1 year ago
these are the KIDS that MUST INHERIT THE WORLD us adults are BORROWING from them now.
HizXcelency 1 year ago 21
@HizXcelency the whole idea of the next generation inheriting the world is a myth, the world will always be incontrol of the likes of illuminati, bildergerg, the freemasons. nice thought though :)
fiftyninechickens 1 year ago
@fiftyninechickens well it will if everyone believes that and consequently does nothing to try to change it. I see what you're saying and I agree it's a tall order, but even they will have next generations, with enough spread of awareness who knows...
arumdevil 1 year ago
@arumdevil Yes ofcourse! I agree entirely with optimism, but my first comment was just after a whole loada' research on the new world order, so it was kinda' pesimstic.
fiftyninechickens 1 year ago
@fiftyninechickens yeah fair enough. I go through cycles of 'researching' that sort of thing so I know what you mean, it does tend to suck you in fascinated, and spit you out a bit pissed off and worked up. To be honest I think it will all buckle under it's own weight with the way things are going. I think it's all just going too far too fast and I can't see the system coping with itself... I hope I'm not wrong. peace.
arumdevil 1 year ago
@arumdevil Yeah, I can't really see it getting together, but it's a realistic prospect none the less. peace
fiftyninechickens 1 year ago
Barnaby is a great speaker. We need young men and young women like him in politics.
Julia Pascal
pascaljulia1 1 year ago
Barnaby is a brilliant speaker. He should go into politics. We need young men (young women) with his intelligence and skill.
Julia Pascal
pascaljulia1 1 year ago
He looks like a dick. I bet he's got a pecker.
usainlightning 1 year ago
reminds me of a young Tony Blair...
thomaskampe1 1 year ago
shame the chances are he will go in to politics, and before long he will become dissillusioned, and the cycle will continue :-(
1thedividedsoul1 1 year ago
He is a future world leader. Amazing !! He know's what he's talking about.
Annelies19532 1 year ago
True lad!
richardferreday 1 year ago
The problem is!... People need to understand that if people care about morality, equality; To put into one word 'fairness'. Then don't vote for conservative... The political ideology is staring you in the face with the party name :P.
ukmaxi 1 year ago
Oh no! Now my trust fund wont cover my liberal arts degree! BAWWWWWW
Theonlyuberpickle 1 year ago
@Theonlyuberpickle
You stupid, stupid peasant.
GodlessXVIII 1 year ago
@GodlessXVIII
Absolutely agree.
@Theonlyuberpickle: It is not a crime to be middle class - however, I can see that more easily now that I no longer live in Britain.
limeywestlake 1 year ago
'They can't stop us demonstrating' - Too right, they can't. The only thing that has been stopping people is apathy. I am glad that the UK seems to be waking up at last. I'll be on the next march I can join.
LaMarquiseDeMerteuil 1 year ago