Randall Flagg gives his followers what they want, and what they want is to be able to freely attack this or that group they don’t like. Even the best they can do is attack by proxy, he’ll still find them the weapons and armies to do that--and do it without fear of moral compunction. You wonder how similar our current federal gov’t is to him.
I love it when Hollywood racks a shotgun for effect. "What; you were guarding me with an unloaded weapon? Or.. "did you just drop a perfectly good round somewhere on the floor?
I rented this movie and watched it. They spent 5 hours building up the plot only so glen, Ralph, and Larry would die for no reason and the crazy guy is the true hero. They should've had a different ending.
just finished the book last night. they actually begin turning the crowd against Flagg before Trashcan Man appears with the bomb. so, they didnt die for nothing..they made a stand =D
This miniseries was pretty bad, but Jamey Sheridan was a great Flagg. I hope Ron Howard casts him as the man in black in The Dark Tower. Same for Anthony Hopkins as Ted Brautigan, James Cromwell as Father Callahan and Tim Curry as Dandelo.
M-O-O-N, that spells anti-climatic. One of the many reasons why I think the Stand (both the book and the series) is really overated. The Dark Tower, The Tommyknockers, It, and especially Rage (back when King was writing under the name Richard Bachman) were all way better.
@hotelmario510 Pretty much. Randall Flagg, or Walter O'Dim as he's also known (he has a lot of names and personas) is an ancient demonic wizard who wanders the many worlds of King's multiverses, causing chaos and destruction wherever he goes. He's the Crimson's King's right hand man (essentially his Prime Minster), but he's secretly plans to betray his boss, take over the Dark Tower (the linchpin of all existence) and replace God as lord of all reality. And he really hates Roland the gunslinger.
haha! Las Vegas just got nuked. I always wondered if it was Gan or one of the other gods in the tower that was responsible for this nuking of Last Vegas. It doesn't fit Gan's m.o.
@gornyson Its a made for TV series, the acting was great in my opinion key to the characters and Stephen King was a great deal apart of this to do his vision. Sorry if you cant see past low budget effects and take in the art of his visualization of the storrryy.
I still don't know why the hell everyone in Vegas is packing heat. Flagg is a dictator; he wouldn't let his people run around in the streets with guns.
@Flagg1991 I don't know completely about that. I think that he knows they can't hurt him, and that they love him too much to go against him. And even if they did, Flagg would just find somebody else. He wants anarchy, not control.
M-O-O-N, that spells Stephen King is a literary genius who, time and time again, receives the misfortune of having his beautifully constructed novels turned into shitty movies and miniseries's...Laws, yes.
@sockembopers12 but i think that he wrote the script for the miniseries and produced it , in every case i belive that the tone of television of that time make most of the damage
The ending is a Deus ex Machina because the whole book is a remake of Lord of the Rings set in America... inspired by the post-apocalypse book The Quiet Earth written in the 40s... read Danse Macabre.
One thing I don't get and have never gotten: Why is everyone in the crowd carrying automatic weapons? Flagg dosn't strike me as the kind of person (or deamon) who would let his followers carry guns in the streets.
I would guess it was a decision to make them seem more 'evil'; I just finished reading the book, then came here and saw this...I imagined the crowd to be a lot less rowdy and a lot more docile. I don't think I'll watch any more of the TV show, it's better in my head!
Notice how all the "bad guys" are either Black or some other minority. Why is it La Vegas would be the headquarters for the forces of evil? Sounds like the writing of a real oakey -someone who hates cities and sees them as places of evil...if that's true why do so many people live in cities and so few live in backwater redneck oakey towns?
Every Racist propaganda hit job piece has the "Token black person" just to deflect any accusations of Racism. The fect that they made up the Mother Abigail character is like the cover-up to the crime.
What about Judge Farris? He was black. And just because the Rat-man was black means nothing. Movies and novels are repersentations of real life. In real life there are good blacks, bad white, and everything in-between. So, for yoy cry babies, lets just make it so that all blacks are good, and all whites are bad, good?
Yeah...'cause all the villains in the Stand are black, and there's absolutely no black characters amongst the "good guys" (sarcasm). Come to think of it, the Rat Man is the only black guy I remember being specifically identified as one of Flagg's people.
Shut the fuck up. Flagg is white, Dorgan is white, Trash is white, Lloyd is...dark complexioned, but white. Mother Abigail was black, and she was practicly Jesus. And Las Vegas being the captial city of hell was just a plot device. It was an interesting to put the action.
I have. I actually like the book. But Stephen King does have a fondness for resorting to Deus ex Machina. In fact, he directly admits it in the last book of the Dark Tower series (where he sends a message to the Gunslinger as the author and admits that it's a rather blatant example of Deus ex Machina).
What the fuck is this shit? This feels nothing like the book... omg what bunch of douchebags made this?
MrYozki 2 days ago
jezz...its like everyone has guns...from light mahcine guns to mpk5s,etc.
213callofduty 4 weeks ago
Fallout was inspired by this!
twilightzoneseinfeld 1 month ago
this left out like half the book :/ more than half
pierceys234 2 months ago
this was a great ending, beautiful...
xenoghost1 3 months ago
Everyone shut the fuck up its not racist ur all just crybabies
theValkyrieClan1 4 months ago
I don't see how you could make a better nuclear explosion....the testing they did in the 40s and 50s looked much the same.
davehutchinson67 4 months ago
I was in Vegas when they were filing this in 92...it was really something to see....
davehutchinson67 4 months ago
Only in a Stephen King novel would the devil show up in a denim outfit from head to toe and an SFLB Mullet, running Las Vegas.
Stephen King novels are always white trash fantasy.
Nihilgeist 5 months ago
@Nihilgeist only.. its not the devil fucktard..
LifterC3 1 week ago
the book > the mini series.
mpauger15 5 months ago
@tehzombeh98 i don't know why you dissed the movie it got 4 out of 4 stars
PlushMarioRhett1 8 months ago
@DavidToddSchiesler he said my life for you
PlushMarioRhett1 8 months ago
8:20
vhjuice 9 months ago
Randall Flagg gives his followers what they want, and what they want is to be able to freely attack this or that group they don’t like. Even the best they can do is attack by proxy, he’ll still find them the weapons and armies to do that--and do it without fear of moral compunction. You wonder how similar our current federal gov’t is to him.
freddietz96 9 months ago
This movie was terrible.
tehzombeh98 11 months ago
I love it when Hollywood racks a shotgun for effect. "What; you were guarding me with an unloaded weapon? Or.. "did you just drop a perfectly good round somewhere on the floor?
alpha18412 1 year ago
Trashcan man was good all along!!! he looked at the hand and said fire for you!!!
DavidToddSchiesler 1 year ago
I rented this movie and watched it. They spent 5 hours building up the plot only so glen, Ralph, and Larry would die for no reason and the crazy guy is the true hero. They should've had a different ending.
TheSalmonSlammers 1 year ago
@TheSalmonSlammers
just finished the book last night. they actually begin turning the crowd against Flagg before Trashcan Man appears with the bomb. so, they didnt die for nothing..they made a stand =D
RendanSubeta 1 year ago
@RendanSubeta He's talking about the MOVIE though.
twilightzoneseinfeld 1 month ago
3 people dont know how to spell MOON
cdbils001 1 year ago
This miniseries was pretty bad, but Jamey Sheridan was a great Flagg. I hope Ron Howard casts him as the man in black in The Dark Tower. Same for Anthony Hopkins as Ted Brautigan, James Cromwell as Father Callahan and Tim Curry as Dandelo.
SPRLDR 1 year ago
@SPRLDR you can't be serious Imagine got The Dark Tower!!?? here is hoping he just does not cast Tom Hanks in ANY role!!
oneNonly1fullofsome 9 months ago
i like flagg in this movie. he seems like he would be a stand up comedian
llamasarus1 1 year ago
There is no reason why they couldn't have made that scene much better. An exact adaptation of the book, for example, would have been just fine.
Jurassic0Al 1 year ago
Shut up that honky voodoo!
Elmagnifico37 1 year ago 2
Chief Dorgan says blow a few heads off, ha ha, if that happened, there would have been one helluva shootout with all that shootin' iron.
dingecibbs 1 year ago
M-O-O-N, that spells anti-climatic. One of the many reasons why I think the Stand (both the book and the series) is really overated. The Dark Tower, The Tommyknockers, It, and especially Rage (back when King was writing under the name Richard Bachman) were all way better.
ronin6401 1 year ago
Right, I'm new to this: Randall Flagg is just a pseudonym of an unstoppable force of evil that was killed by the Crimson King's son, am I correct?
hotelmario510 1 year ago
@hotelmario510 Pretty much. Randall Flagg, or Walter O'Dim as he's also known (he has a lot of names and personas) is an ancient demonic wizard who wanders the many worlds of King's multiverses, causing chaos and destruction wherever he goes. He's the Crimson's King's right hand man (essentially his Prime Minster), but he's secretly plans to betray his boss, take over the Dark Tower (the linchpin of all existence) and replace God as lord of all reality. And he really hates Roland the gunslinger.
mst3KGf 1 year ago
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@mst3KGf And Mordred made him rip his own eyes out, right?
hotelmario510 1 year ago
@mst3KGf So, who's above The Crimson King and Randall Flagg? The so called Dis (the forces of evil) or the Tower itself?
howardlol 1 year ago
In the book, the people in Las Vegas were much more sympathetic. I liked it better that way.
drumlip 1 year ago 6
haha! Las Vegas just got nuked. I always wondered if it was Gan or one of the other gods in the tower that was responsible for this nuking of Last Vegas. It doesn't fit Gan's m.o.
TheJustguy 1 year ago
The movie was good at first. The acting was alright. But they fucking rushed it so bad!!
Slide2671 1 year ago
great book, shit movie...
gornyson 1 year ago
@gornyson Its a made for TV series, the acting was great in my opinion key to the characters and Stephen King was a great deal apart of this to do his vision. Sorry if you cant see past low budget effects and take in the art of his visualization of the storrryy.
Lazie18up 1 year ago
"MYYY LIIIIIIFE FEEERR YOUUUUUU!!!!!!!!" God that line makes me laugh.
SynaNara 1 year ago
I still don't know why the hell everyone in Vegas is packing heat. Flagg is a dictator; he wouldn't let his people run around in the streets with guns.
Flagg1991 1 year ago
@Flagg1991 I don't know completely about that. I think that he knows they can't hurt him, and that they love him too much to go against him. And even if they did, Flagg would just find somebody else. He wants anarchy, not control.
But still, a good point you make.
Slide2671 1 year ago
M-O-O-N, that spells Stephen King is a literary genius who, time and time again, receives the misfortune of having his beautifully constructed novels turned into shitty movies and miniseries's...Laws, yes.
sockembopers12 1 year ago 26
@sockembopers12 but i think that he wrote the script for the miniseries and produced it , in every case i belive that the tone of television of that time make most of the damage
genesis098123 7 months ago
Cool, thanks for uplading I just watched the series where this part was left out. I missed this scene!
Luba72 1 year ago
Poor Bernard. He was just standing up for what's right.
DashCat9 1 year ago
The ending is a Deus ex Machina because the whole book is a remake of Lord of the Rings set in America... inspired by the post-apocalypse book The Quiet Earth written in the 40s... read Danse Macabre.
ijwi 1 year ago
Is it just me or is the lady at 6:20 the only one afraid of the bomb?
TheKittyMeowMeow 1 year ago
this movie really needs to be remade
MuerteDeAmor 1 year ago
I like how Randall randomly whips out an execution scroll.
Infam0us69 1 year ago
@Infam0us69 What is he a warlock, a demon, the devil himself, or something completely original?
londea88 1 year ago
@londea88 Well, in the books, he's a demon. But in his human form, he's a warlock.
Infam0us69 1 year ago
@londea88 something completely original.
endlesszero 1 year ago
i loved Shawnee Smith in this show, i also loved that girl who played mya on just shoot me. i also love this scene.
MegaSimpson666 1 year ago
One thing I don't get and have never gotten: Why is everyone in the crowd carrying automatic weapons? Flagg dosn't strike me as the kind of person (or deamon) who would let his followers carry guns in the streets.
Flagg1991 1 year ago
@Flagg1991
I would guess it was a decision to make them seem more 'evil'; I just finished reading the book, then came here and saw this...I imagined the crowd to be a lot less rowdy and a lot more docile. I don't think I'll watch any more of the TV show, it's better in my head!
merkaba48 1 year ago
Okay, those henchmen on stage look WAY too much like bdsm enthusiasts.
delong757 2 years ago
@delong757
I know, weid huh?
Flagg1991 1 year ago
One criticism I do have is that the ending is a classic example of Deus ex machina.
WAMill3R 2 years ago
@WAMill3R Is not Deux Ex Machina, the heroes die and in the book Randall don't die, and guess what, everything is just to almosth nothing.
jotatanv 2 years ago
This entire scene was ruined by that junior high school play nuke...
Waltham1892 2 years ago 5
hah yeah poor playing .....
DeadBodyOutline 2 years ago
@Waltham1892
I know, right? Someone should post some famous movie endings and have that nuke come riding in and ruin them.
donniedarkodevotte 1 year ago
Notice how all the "bad guys" are either Black or some other minority. Why is it La Vegas would be the headquarters for the forces of evil? Sounds like the writing of a real oakey -someone who hates cities and sees them as places of evil...if that's true why do so many people live in cities and so few live in backwater redneck oakey towns?
ScipioXXX 2 years ago
@ScipioXXX but Mother abigail, the represent of God in the book was a black woman.
jotatanv 2 years ago
Every Racist propaganda hit job piece has the "Token black person" just to deflect any accusations of Racism. The fect that they made up the Mother Abigail character is like the cover-up to the crime.
ScipioXXX 2 years ago
What about Judge Farris? He was black. And just because the Rat-man was black means nothing. Movies and novels are repersentations of real life. In real life there are good blacks, bad white, and everything in-between. So, for yoy cry babies, lets just make it so that all blacks are good, and all whites are bad, good?
I think you are the racist.
Flagg1991 2 years ago
Yeah...'cause all the villains in the Stand are black, and there's absolutely no black characters amongst the "good guys" (sarcasm). Come to think of it, the Rat Man is the only black guy I remember being specifically identified as one of Flagg's people.
WAMill3R 2 years ago
Yep. The "token black man" was on the side of evil. While Mother Abigail and Judge Farris were not.
Flagg1991 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up. Flagg is white, Dorgan is white, Trash is white, Lloyd is...dark complexioned, but white. Mother Abigail was black, and she was practicly Jesus. And Las Vegas being the captial city of hell was just a plot device. It was an interesting to put the action.
Flagg1991 2 years ago
in the book, Randall Flag vanished before the explosion and some mysterious creature was in front of him
SirFukme 2 years ago
Scaryest endin ever in a movie =/
beauiful1990 2 years ago
Dude, there are way scarier endings to movies.
WAMill3R 2 years ago
@WAMill3R read the book, its not this bad
cazmaestro 1 year ago
@cazmaestro
I have. I actually like the book. But Stephen King does have a fondness for resorting to Deus ex Machina. In fact, he directly admits it in the last book of the Dark Tower series (where he sends a message to the Gunslinger as the author and admits that it's a rather blatant example of Deus ex Machina).
WAMill3R 1 year ago