Rock first said "and their teams are 80% black" then "all the players are black, 90% of the players are black" how pulled out of his ass is that statement. That is something you can only say pre-internet on network TV.
Now I could be wrong here, but isn't Coulter totally against EVER single democrat in theory? Then how can she not trust ALL politicians if she rarely IF EVER says anything negative against republicans?
How self-important can you get? People are blinded by emotion. If you asked Chris Rock to define who "his people" actually are, he wouldn't know what to say... All Africans? All black Africans? All black Africans from his country? Or tribe?
Chris Rock is so wrong on this. First, these athletes are getting educations and possibly a shitload of money if they go pro. Second, you can't give all black students a free education because a small minority of black students are great athletes. Would Chris also like all money made from white athletes to go toward paying the tuition of only other white students. Sorry, Chris, that's racist bullshit.
@sealhunta That comment seemed manipulative to me. Musicians get criticized all the time for not being responsible role models, especially Kurt Cobain. Marilyn Manson was even on an episode of Politically Incorrect to talk about his own controversy and responsibility as a role model.
I think she just pulled that out as a tactic to get people on her side or to accuse people who are opposed to her of being racist because her opening argument was very politically driven.
Jon's comedy is just so superior to these other guy's; Bill, and Chris got too serious. Lennox is the shiznit too, pretty funny here. And, strangely, Ann Coulter wasn't as insane as usual here.
Using Chris Rock's analogy that black athletes make millions for the school for white kids to attend. What about schools that get millions in private funding and study grants (Don't think Ivy League schools make most of their money through athletics)?? We all know money made in the athletic department stays in that department.......
These Schools are exploiting black athletes? Shit if they dont want the scholarship, chance at a championship, and all the free pussy then they can exploit me
I've heard Chris say many intelligent things that I agree with, but his argument that Whites are benefiting from black sports is ridiculous.
The black athletes are getting a scholarship and an education. How is that ripping black people off? Furthermore, most sports programs are a net money looser, not money maker.
Last, having those black athletes in college can only encourage other blacks to attend.
Black culture will have to appreciate college more before attendance goes up.
He's saying universities that black athletes tend gain scholarships from earn large amounts of money for the college. Even if they are money losers, the emphasis then isn't on their education.
He's right. They are exploited. He's not saying that it isn't great young black males/females can go to college, but he' saying the universities push sports more than their education programs, hence the U.S. dropping rank in education.
Jon exposes the error in Chris' logic when he mockingly says my people, the mathletes, are being exploited. Using Chris' logic, I am a slave to my job, since I am "forced" to work if I want to earn money.
How dare Chris marginalize "his people's" real slavery by comparing cotton slaves to recipients of college scholarships. They are incomparable.
Chris further shames himself by using the term my people. He cannot speak for all black people just as I cannot speak for all white people.
Furthermore, the notion that universities conspire to advance white people at the expense of blacks is ridiculous; especially in light of minority quotas that actually work against whites. Any affirmative action law breeds racism and goes against the words of the Declaration of Independence which read: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
I'm not a legal expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if affirmative action laws are unconstitutional.
But isn't the point of Affirmative Action to give African-Americans, Hispanics, etc. the opportunity to enter white dominated jobs? Yes it at times it may discriminate against better workers, but the question you have to ask is how important is it to always hire the best and most efficient worker. I think especially at this point during a financial crisis were are starting to question the systems of efficiency and productivity that are so idealized in the modern workplace.
Affirmative action is intended to displace whites with minorities. However, it's insulting that some think minorities cannot succeed on their own, and compete for positions with a different set of rules.
If quotas existed in basketball requiring a certain number of white players, the game would suffer and become less profitable. Affirmative action is just as ridiculous and perhaps more harmful to everyone.
The practice of using quotas smacks of socialism, which always fails the logic test.
I've questioned whether efficiency is most important, & the answer is a resounding yes. In troubled economic times, the least efficient workers are let go. Cutting inefficiency is how the economy will recover, despite Obama's poor fiscal policy
Efficiency has a trickle down effect that benefits everyone from the very top to the very bottom. When the US does well, the world benefits. When the US suffers, the world suffers
History will judge affirmative action as a thorn in the side of progress
It's collectivism. You're giving some groups of people special privileges that aren't afforded to other groups. That's not right. People should be treated as individuals, not turned into a protective class, that actually backfires -- John Stossel explained that in this clip when talking about pregnant women: -l3j-mgOHqM.
What? Seriously? The earliest forms of what is now called affirmative action date back to the Reconstruction, most of which were implemented by the SAME PEOPLE who framed the 14th Amendment. Affirmative action as we know it today was born out of The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 2 Executive Orders by then President Johnson. Also, before you pull bullshit out of your ass and try to pass it off as fact, read up on the Equal Protection clause to the 14th Amendment.
Wow, it's so weird to see how things were SO much less polarized then they are today. Could you imagine how polarized this conversation would be today?
@Blank3 Could you imagine how much better this debate would have been if Jon Stewart had been the host and Bill Maher had been outside the studio cleaning windows or something?
Good point, I was thinking a similar thing. People should be their own role models; aspiring to be the best they can be. However, this isn't realistic and some people end up being tremendously influenced by others. Because of this fact, it's important to conduct yourself appropriately. Again, your premise is right on. Role models should be downplayed, especially since all fall short of perfection.
meeting of the titans? are we looking at the same people? i see chris rock and anne coulter... so far... quite the opposite of "titans" however jon stewart and bill maher are brilliant.
Ah yes, before stewart and maher fell out..
lynottlives 1 week ago
Rock first said "and their teams are 80% black" then "all the players are black, 90% of the players are black" how pulled out of his ass is that statement. That is something you can only say pre-internet on network TV.
clabuesch1 3 months ago
Chris is right to the extent that college athletes are exploited tremendously by the Colleges.
benignuman 3 months ago
Now I could be wrong here, but isn't Coulter totally against EVER single democrat in theory? Then how can she not trust ALL politicians if she rarely IF EVER says anything negative against republicans?
screenhorrahfan 3 months ago
How self-important can you get? People are blinded by emotion. If you asked Chris Rock to define who "his people" actually are, he wouldn't know what to say... All Africans? All black Africans? All black Africans from his country? Or tribe?
grands1am 7 months ago
Chris Rock is so wrong on this. First, these athletes are getting educations and possibly a shitload of money if they go pro. Second, you can't give all black students a free education because a small minority of black students are great athletes. Would Chris also like all money made from white athletes to go toward paying the tuition of only other white students. Sorry, Chris, that's racist bullshit.
rooley 7 months ago
the innocent days of ann coulter
PublicICON 8 months ago 3
wow, must be so long ago when ann coulter cares about racism .
sealhunta 8 months ago
@sealhunta That comment seemed manipulative to me. Musicians get criticized all the time for not being responsible role models, especially Kurt Cobain. Marilyn Manson was even on an episode of Politically Incorrect to talk about his own controversy and responsibility as a role model.
I think she just pulled that out as a tactic to get people on her side or to accuse people who are opposed to her of being racist because her opening argument was very politically driven.
doombuggy123 1 week ago
good panel of guests
jismjacket 10 months ago
"Mathletes" Hahaha
cailinaschilldara 10 months ago
jon stewart is freakin awesome
sashaeloise 10 months ago
Great cast! Ann Coulter is good to get some balance to the sane people.
LiBlub1 11 months ago
If I could get her to shut up about anything even remotely political, I'd be all over Ann Coulter.
VexonCross 1 year ago
so keep ur black people chris please keep them ur an idiot racist
imcrazy85 1 year ago
Young Jon Stewart, Mmmmm <33333
TheSpazzofMuffins 1 year ago 2
Jon's comedy is just so superior to these other guy's; Bill, and Chris got too serious. Lennox is the shiznit too, pretty funny here. And, strangely, Ann Coulter wasn't as insane as usual here.
jerryhello100 1 year ago 4
@jerryhello100 i think she lost it after 9/11
JFLD8 11 months ago 2
Jon Stewart. Still awesome after all these years.
Roland1232 1 year ago
What is it about being on the set of The View that makes people talk over each other? lol. p.s. - Jon Stewart looks really hot
charliebubblesoar 1 year ago
Ann Coulter's a facist bitch, but damn, look at those legs!
GohTakeshita 1 year ago 6
Leave it to Jon to keep the levity high, but still stay on topic.
gluecement 1 year ago 9
This video was worth it just for that part with William Shatner at the start, I don't why but I love old commercials.
tolchock1984 2 years ago 2
I like Rock, but he's way off on this.
CaptainTae 2 years ago 3
Using Chris Rock's analogy that black athletes make millions for the school for white kids to attend. What about schools that get millions in private funding and study grants (Don't think Ivy League schools make most of their money through athletics)?? We all know money made in the athletic department stays in that department.......
atlmale2007 2 years ago 2
These Schools are exploiting black athletes? Shit if they dont want the scholarship, chance at a championship, and all the free pussy then they can exploit me
Slugg329 2 years ago 4
FUCK YOU CHRIS ROCK!!!!
ryanbradyjohnblack19 2 years ago
the first time i disagreed with bill
IamAsi94 2 years ago
when bill maher was reasonable and coulter wasnt a racist
lura32000 2 years ago
This is an excellent lineup...
365to173repubsPWNED 2 years ago 2
Charles B just went to jail...ha
MarkMVHS753 2 years ago
I've heard Chris say many intelligent things that I agree with, but his argument that Whites are benefiting from black sports is ridiculous.
The black athletes are getting a scholarship and an education. How is that ripping black people off? Furthermore, most sports programs are a net money looser, not money maker.
Last, having those black athletes in college can only encourage other blacks to attend.
Black culture will have to appreciate college more before attendance goes up.
redpoint5 2 years ago 3
He's saying universities that black athletes tend gain scholarships from earn large amounts of money for the college. Even if they are money losers, the emphasis then isn't on their education.
He's right. They are exploited. He's not saying that it isn't great young black males/females can go to college, but he' saying the universities push sports more than their education programs, hence the U.S. dropping rank in education.
slytown 2 years ago
Jon exposes the error in Chris' logic when he mockingly says my people, the mathletes, are being exploited. Using Chris' logic, I am a slave to my job, since I am "forced" to work if I want to earn money.
How dare Chris marginalize "his people's" real slavery by comparing cotton slaves to recipients of college scholarships. They are incomparable.
Chris further shames himself by using the term my people. He cannot speak for all black people just as I cannot speak for all white people.
redpoint5 2 years ago 2
Furthermore, the notion that universities conspire to advance white people at the expense of blacks is ridiculous; especially in light of minority quotas that actually work against whites. Any affirmative action law breeds racism and goes against the words of the Declaration of Independence which read: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
I'm not a legal expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if affirmative action laws are unconstitutional.
redpoint5 2 years ago
But isn't the point of Affirmative Action to give African-Americans, Hispanics, etc. the opportunity to enter white dominated jobs? Yes it at times it may discriminate against better workers, but the question you have to ask is how important is it to always hire the best and most efficient worker. I think especially at this point during a financial crisis were are starting to question the systems of efficiency and productivity that are so idealized in the modern workplace.
slytown 2 years ago
Affirmative action is intended to displace whites with minorities. However, it's insulting that some think minorities cannot succeed on their own, and compete for positions with a different set of rules.
If quotas existed in basketball requiring a certain number of white players, the game would suffer and become less profitable. Affirmative action is just as ridiculous and perhaps more harmful to everyone.
The practice of using quotas smacks of socialism, which always fails the logic test.
redpoint5 2 years ago
I've questioned whether efficiency is most important, & the answer is a resounding yes. In troubled economic times, the least efficient workers are let go. Cutting inefficiency is how the economy will recover, despite Obama's poor fiscal policy
Efficiency has a trickle down effect that benefits everyone from the very top to the very bottom. When the US does well, the world benefits. When the US suffers, the world suffers
History will judge affirmative action as a thorn in the side of progress
redpoint5 2 years ago
It's collectivism. You're giving some groups of people special privileges that aren't afforded to other groups. That's not right. People should be treated as individuals, not turned into a protective class, that actually backfires -- John Stossel explained that in this clip when talking about pregnant women: -l3j-mgOHqM.
MooseOfReason 2 years ago
Affirmative action is unconstitutional, it is a blatant violation of the 14th Amendment.
feudfan55 2 years ago
What? Seriously? The earliest forms of what is now called affirmative action date back to the Reconstruction, most of which were implemented by the SAME PEOPLE who framed the 14th Amendment. Affirmative action as we know it today was born out of The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 2 Executive Orders by then President Johnson. Also, before you pull bullshit out of your ass and try to pass it off as fact, read up on the Equal Protection clause to the 14th Amendment.
khanflesh 2 years ago
Wow, it's so weird to see how things were SO much less polarized then they are today. Could you imagine how polarized this conversation would be today?
Blank3 2 years ago 17
"I'm a uniter, not a divider" Bushes words, sad how things have changed.
guyv00 2 years ago 2
@Blank3 Could you imagine how much better this debate would have been if Jon Stewart had been the host and Bill Maher had been outside the studio cleaning windows or something?
santajimi 1 year ago
November 19th 1999
keddaw 2 years ago
Jon Stewart!!! <3
phantasmbunny 3 years ago 3
where's hal jordan?
Armistance 3 years ago
Wow, Shatner has been a priceline hack for a while!!
WhyNotTruth 3 years ago 2
That was exactly what I was thinking! lol
thepiper2112 3 years ago
that was my first thought
Armistance 3 years ago
Maher has really lightened up on his views since this time period. great panel.
smk2652468 3 years ago
damn i can't stand anne coulter what a cunt and yes i am a women i can say cunt hehe :) amazing panel by the way wow
rosepetal34 3 years ago
im a guy and i say cunt
chunkybutt420 3 years ago
damn, talk about an all star panel
chris rock, john stewart, anne coulter, and some other guy
Ironzealot7531 3 years ago
the other guy is 3 time Heavyweight Boxing Champion Lennox Lewis.
thepiper2112 3 years ago
Yeah, this was a pretty great panel.
SpaceOddity 2 years ago
Why should we have role models at all? Why should ppl be held responsible for the morality of other ppl's children?
Fuck off!
Efferts 3 years ago 3
Good point, I was thinking a similar thing. People should be their own role models; aspiring to be the best they can be. However, this isn't realistic and some people end up being tremendously influenced by others. Because of this fact, it's important to conduct yourself appropriately. Again, your premise is right on. Role models should be downplayed, especially since all fall short of perfection.
redpoint5 2 years ago
It's upsetting that ppl never (at least) consider themselves 1st on the list for blame.
No one's practices with caution anymore. When an accident occurs, it's predetermined that the fault is never "mine".
Big egos, no responsibility. We can educate the youth, but ppl would rather refuse the data & stand tall.
Efferts 2 years ago 2
Loose shoes, a tight pussy, and a warm place to shit. Who do I have in mind?
elbuggo 3 years ago
Your family tree ???????
akamola 3 years ago 5
anne wants to fuck every black man on the panel
redfoxxx29 3 years ago
To quote The Boondocks "Ann coulter is a down ass bitch."
blackrainuponus 3 years ago
thank you librarien!
DieGewerkschaft 3 years ago
Jon Stewart is awesome...
Is it sad that I watched Elmopalooza just because he was in it?
bigalisme 3 years ago 4
NAACP tournament? WTF, hahaha
withoutasong 3 years ago
Captain Kirk!?
allocater 3 years ago
Coulter is a worthless POS!
withoutasong 3 years ago
Finally! I've been looking for the Jon Stewart episode for ages. Thanks a bunch.
EstelElessar 3 years ago 3
I'm still waiting for the Tom Leykis ep and the Sarah Silverman/Inoki ep.
Surreal469 3 years ago
Wow, I never thought Bill Maher and Jon Stewart were ever in the same room together.
texjoy86 3 years ago 6
It's kind of like the President and Vice President being on the same plane. lol
Surreal469 3 years ago 4
Maher was on the Daily Show in september for religulous
Kain5th 2 years ago
Yeah, talk about a meeting of the titans. Cool episode.
SpaceOddity 2 years ago
meeting of the titans? are we looking at the same people? i see chris rock and anne coulter... so far... quite the opposite of "titans" however jon stewart and bill maher are brilliant.
roxaSora11 2 years ago
"the asthmatic Jewish guy" LOL I love Bill but I wish he was a bit more self-depricating like John.
retox 3 years ago 3
cool. wish he'd get jon stewart as a guest on real time.
nicknonsense303 3 years ago 25