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  • im pre sure the magnet's are trying to grab the steel STOVE! behind it.

  • Well, freeenergynews now features a video showing what seems to be a fish line. So maybe now we need to take a bit of our comments back. But ofcourse, I/we still believe there is a way. Nicola told us....

  • Wow what an idiot!!!

  • Which one of us, you or me? You'll have to be more clear, so I'll know whether to ban you.

  • How abput these 'fish line' versions?

    watch?v=bw-8YJvicrw

    watch?v=dORKOhwLSP4&feature=ch­annel_page

    Can also very well be so...I can see lines and there was and angry Mylow video of him confessing to that motor and battery controllong the fishline pully

  • You dont have to be such a jerk to Mylow. What if his invention is real. You are not aiding the discovery in any way. Infact you are completely hampering it.

  • If his "invention" as you call it is real, then science is wrong. There simply are no two ways about it.

    Which do you really believe is the truth?

    Really really. Could science REALLY be so wrong, since it works so well all around us all the time?

    Now, how am I hampering discovery by pointing out a hoax ? How am I hampering discovery by pointing out that people are trying to make a monetary profit from this hoax?

    Buy all the aluminum and magnets you want, just do the damn control experiments.

  • Sience is what we make it. It cannot be wrong or right. If his shit works it will mean not much, only some new theories on ressonance, spintronics, magnetics and so forth. We can still say the energy is comming from emf fields that are mostly energized inderictly by our sun.

    And now you have made a fake copy of maybe an invention, could you also produce a real invention?

  • Not for someone who doesn't even know how to spell "science".

    And that's ONE.

  • Science is always wrong. It's been wrong every time anyone thought it was right throughout history, right back to ancient Greece.

    And you know this of course, which is why you tried to build a replication.

    Why don't you just lay off Mylow? Cost benefit analysis: if it's fake, no loss. If it's real then you've discouraged him from disclosing anymore information with your bad behaviour.

    Simple solution: stop behaving poorly.

  • You ar right and wrong. I agree with you about the constant revision and convergence on truth that is science. But you are wrong about Mylow's fakery not causing loss. It seems that Mrs. Johnson was on line to cut a check to someone, guess who, about this successful replication of her husband's work. Now that Mylow has been proven to be a fraud (NOT by me! Definitive proof came from elsewhere and is undeniable) she will be keeping her money, and I'll bet it was not a trivial sum.

    My bad? NOT.

  • "Science is always wrong"

    Not THAT wrong.

    And science as we know it did not exist in ancient Greece. They actually shunned experimentation, which is why they were so wrong about a lot of things.

  • Oh please. When Tesla proposed his AC generator and motor it was called a perpetual motion machine and he was laughed out of the room.

    Science is always wrong in exactly this way: limits. A theoretical limit is adopted then broken 50 years later, over and over. Eventually you'd think people would stop being so rigid, but no. You can't break the speed of light, you can't extract energy from fields, and you can't react nuclear elements at temperatures bellow a million degrees C.

  • Auch, you got me. But let me still say: there is enough science to explain how his stuff is working, if it is working. Science is very good at re-explaining itself. The energy is comming from somewhere, we all just don't really know the thermodynamics here...

    But for me, I don't know why all of the sudden this Mylow is given so much credit by Sterling D. Allan and the rest of the community. But your thought about a simple motor is almost to obvious to have any meaning.

  • TinselKoala, you are missing one important detail - you're missing a stator magnet in your "explanation". demonstrate it again with a real stator magnet like Mylow's and then we call it fair and sqare

  • I feel your missing something authentic...wheres the bird and the cat?

  • hahaha...that is so rediculous Tinselpinsel... do you have tomatoes on your eyes? Your base for the bearing assembly is much bigger . Mylow's is much thinner and doesn't have any space for a motor. And don't you think that it' would

    not being noticed if the height of the bearing assembly changed that much so suddenly?

  • Hey there Sailors

    Did you not read the comments and the description? I could make that thing much smaller if I wanted to. I made it from junk I had lying around.

  • And besides, if Watts hasn't removed it, you can see a comparison photo of Mylow's base and my base, on the OU website. They are very nearly identical, and I also show the motor and battery--clearly small enough for Mylow's unit. I invite you to take a look and tell us what you think.

  • WIth mylows videos, you can see the effects of the interaction between the stator and the magnets. The visible kick! With all your clever efforts I cannot imagine you can replicate these effects. Especially if your premis is to mock and disprove. I can imagine that these effects are real, and I believe mylow is an honest person. You can just tell, its not hard. It would be better if you put more effort in trying to replicate the effects in a more honest way yourself.

  • You haven't been paying attention, have you. I have posted more real and repeatable data on various magnet configurations than anybody you can name, I'll wager.

    And that "Kick" is slowing the motor down, as you should be able to see in the graphical representations of the video analysis that has now been done by two different people.

    And I show the "kick" you are talking about in several of my videos. It's not hard to replicate. Let's see your replication for comparison.

  • Love it...

    You have a nice lab my friend...

  • Thanks.

    I wish...I wish I could get to the stove and the sink. I know they are under there somewhere.

    Woof!

  • id break u in half mate

  • Bring it on.

    Mate.

  • Bleagh, TK - don't you think you could of filtered out all that air flow noise? At least on Mylow's videos I can hear the people talking in the next room and the car tires rolling on the pavement outside. Could you be any more obvious in your excellent proof that he didn't fake his video like you did? BTW, have a look at Sterlings base mount - blows your theory out of the water. Nice try though, I'll give you an E minus for a half hearted effort. ;-)

  • thanks I think. E minus that's not so good.

    The air noise is from the fan in the window just above the sink. I live in a basement, that's the only ventilation.

    "Sorry about the noise." Am I going to have to do it again in a quiet place?

    Have you seen Sterling's motor run anywhere other than on the bureau? Do you really think this is a) pneumatically driven? b) the only way to do it? How about fishing line around the rotating axle, tiny little holes in the wall? Sheesh, Pookas are Picky.

  • actually I thot about removing the soundtrack but then that would have removed some important clues and things for the instrumentalists to play with. Remember the audio spectrum analysis of the OCMPMM? That should pick up the sound of the motor driver electronics in this video.

    OOps, I've said too much.

  • But weren't there a few replications of the Whipmag device that showed brief acceleration (2 - 3 seconds)? So can we not assume that there is something there?

  • Yes, you are nearly correct. I would rephrase your question thus:

    There were reports that a few Whipmag device replicators observed brief accelerations. So can we not assume that there is something there?

    And I would answer that question thus: I think the assumption that there IS something there is unwarranted, because the reports could be wrong, the researchers in error or dishonest, there could be mundane explanations, etc.

    I think one could "assume" that the device is interesting enough...

  • ...to warrant further research, but certainly not under the "assumption" that it is a FE or OU device. Only experimentation can answer that question, and it's probably best to be as free of assumptions as possible when analyzing data. But that is often the most difficult work a scientist may do, especially since so much of science itself is based on a few critical assumptions about the nature of Nature -- which, like all assumptions, could be completely wrong.

  • i hope your happy now how did you fake your devices.

  • TK:

    Well done sir! I believe you answered that challenge perfectly.

    Bill

  • Thanks Bill, you're one of my few fans.

    But as I predicted, I'm being "challenged" already over this video.

    "The size is wrong, and, er, the size is wrong...and...er, the size....er.....and where's the stator mount, and , er, it doesn't have the right magnets, and ,er...the size is wrong....er..."

    It looks a lot smaller when I put the big disk on it. And I could have made it a lot smaller.

    (insert winky here)

  • That is looking like a time machine, and I thought I was mad hehe

    Cheers

    CLaNZeR

  • They're all mad here, save me and thee, and sometimes I wonder about me....

  • You know man, you are a smart guy

    Yet you've wasted more time than anyone. You've had a rig for probably two months, why don't you just try the bar magnets, TK? The presence of a motor in your base is obvious. It's ironic but you're pulling more silly stuff now than Mylow. Come on!

  • Oh yeah..

    watch?v=r7reVl8vZW0

  • No, I'm not going to watch that one. I already know there's nothing in there for me, and I can't stand to be looked in the eyeballs and be lied to.

  • Come on. If I didn't want you to know there was a motor in there, you'd never snap. I could make it look identical to mylow's, hand it to you, let you inspect it, dunk it in water overnight, saw it in half with a bandsaw, and I could still make it work to turn a disk.

    And I could have sworn that my time was, well, my time, to do with pretty much as I liked. Sorry...

  • What makes you think I haven't tried bar magnets, in all kinds of variations? I sure can't get them to do anything but slow the disk down.

    I've asked time and time again for anybody to show a config, using any kind of magnets, that runs down longer than the same config without stator(s). This is simple and easy to do. Why has no one done it?

    I think I know.

    Do you? I'd like to hear your explanation.

  • Sorry, correct that, homopolar motor.

  • Nice ;)

  • Like I was saying, he used an Aluminum Air Battery by using Conductive grease in the bearings, apply a magnetic field and you have a monopole motor.

  • Ya it could be Fake. But it could also be TRUE.? Why dont you take your $1000 dolars and go and meet him in person. Id love to see you eat your words on Camera. :-)

  • Why do you think?

    It's because he would refuse to show me the motor. Otherwise I'd be there in a heartbeat, it's a 45 minute flight.

    Don't you remember when Sterling showed up in Chicago unexpectedly? Just when the MIBs had borrowed Mylow's motor overnight? But still Mylow wouldn't invite Sterling up for a cuppa joe. Why not? I'll tell you: because the rig was still sitting on his tabletop, and Sterling might have noticed it.

  • LOL! That's right. The only sensible position is to assume it is fake. Yeah, I want to believe it too but he'll have to come across and let someone verify it. Otherwise. he's just a likable guy posting some videos.

  • ye of little faith...

  • There is no magnet God but Johnson, and Mylow (pbuh) is his Prophet.

    Convert, infidel, or ye shall taste my sword (of God)...

    (insert winky here)

  • If gaining energy from fusing and splitting atoms are within thermodynamic laws. Why can you not tap the same nuclear energy by manipulating the magnetic fields that are directly attached to the atomic level?

  • Because you would need really really tiny taps?

    No, seriously, I don't know the answer to many "why" questions. I mostly do "how".

    And I'm afraid I don't even know "how" to tap that energy you speak of, although I am pretty sure it does exist and might just be tappable.

    Small taps, itty bitty valves, Maxwell Daemons, I don't know.

    But I do know this: You ain't gonna do it swinging magnets past each other, unless maybe you get going really fast. I mean, really really really fast.

  • Just because I show a method that MyLOW's effects could be produced without invoking any new physics, that doesn't mean that His is necessarily faked.

    But it certainly adds another little nail to the coffin, doesn't it.

    (It's those pesky physics and thermodynamics laws, that mean that His is necessarily faked.)

  • Mylow = Fake!

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