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  • @502shifty502 - nice catch. Actually I should have said "provide additional credible evidence" in the beginning. As for proof.... doesn't seem like anyone considers anything proof these days so I don't claim that this is 100% provable without actually being there yourself in person.

  • Proof positive!!! Great video proof of civilization on Mars!

    Now I can clearly see our near future in which we round up all the psychotic banksters and politicians, try them for treason and crimes against humanity, hang them (or otherwise rid the pool of their genes) and divide their wealth (most of the wealth of the Earth) evenly among their victims: Humanity.

    Yaaaa Hooo!!

  • I agree - they are clearly not jpeg images. Still not convinced that they are not natural though. Think of how many things on Earth were thought to be made by civilisations and later turned out to be natural. I personally think we will find life on mars since we already have a host of extremophiles that could survive there. If there was ever more complex life I think it is long gone now. Venus has plenty of atmospheric trace elements and combines to indicate it may have once been better too.

  • @Realfoxhawk I see. This is somewhat like M. Schirmer's debunking schemes. Any anomaly that hints of ET existence is "explained away" by the absurdest of tricks. "The reflections of the Chrysler Building off the surface of a Krispy Kreme doughnut held in the hands of a policeman parket near a subway entrance." The Eiffel Tower was produced by wind erosion; the Hoover Dam the result of millions of years of silt deposits.

  • well made

  • Nicely nice, hidden unless your looking for it. We need to stop all corporation exploits over the masses and realise we're IN the slaughterhouse now, we're the product.

  • yallways, you are type of person the world needs in this time to help people transition from sheep into the humans we were intended to be. This was an amazing video, I was convinced when I saw the face on mars, but this, this is just the cherry on top. Keep making videos, because if at least one person sees this and his or her mind is opened, then that is one step forward to global awakening. It will happen soon and the powers that be know it and are doing everything to prevent it.

  • @crackhead007 - Thank you for such a great response. Its words such as yours that entices me to release more convincing videos that I had simply been holding back because the debunkers and disbelievers just want something to feed upon and scoff at through their willingness to remain ignorant of truth.

  • many thanks for your response. you certainly appear to know your facts. for many years my own interest has been in the many archaeological anomalies right here on earth. i take nothing without considerable evidence and or a strictly logical approach to any circumstantial data that presents itself. after all the simplest solution is often the correct one. off world anomalies are a new sphere of interest to me but seem a natural progression as a related field for research

  • @chancevaught78 - Yes, I too am interested in all fields of anomalies. Nonetheless, I simply began to lose interest in uploading the evidence because the best evidence is not capable of being uploaded... and if it were, the blind brainwashed public will simply deny it or never seek it out to begin with. therefore I do my own research for my own benefit in the meantime... until I find the time to reveal something new here in the hopes that its not deleted by youtube.

  • @yallways Yes, this is true. In fact, the status quo is far beyond your wildest dreams. Even if a "mother ship" were seen hovering over the Golden Gate Bridge, many would no doubt be more concerned about whether they could still grab a DKNY cashmere sweater on sale at Bloomingdales. So much for the human species.

  • @JMaxwell1000 - I'm well aware of the status quot. What is still an enigma to me is the level of ignorance that so many people have over this topic and the true reality of it all.

  • well it seems clear that there is something there that was worked by intelligent hands. i have done the comparisons also. this is the best evidence i have seen yet. though i ask myself why esa would release any image at all if it was a secret. surely only non descript desert images would be released. still it seems clear from our earliest history on earth that much of the accepted version of history is incorrect. i wonder when people will open their eyes to what is right infront of them!

  • @chancevaught78 - Due to a shared link between ESA and NASA, I beleive that the ESA is not really familiar with the fact that something is hidden in those images. They simply provide what NASA provides them. The ESA and NASA computers are linked in such a way that image information (written data only) are synced. Therefore NASA can not hide from them that the images were taken... only what is in those images by airbrushing them out. This is why NASA themselves do not provide the images freely.

  • @yallways but continuing - i am impressed with your depth of knowledge - you provide evidence and facts in precise and impartial manor. your information rings of truth. can i ask (if i may) how you come by your knowledge of NASA /ESA SOP's ?

    regards

  • @chancevaught78 - I am ex-military intelligence, Desert Storm era. Computers and Electronics (74C).

  • I dont see the point here..

  • @jroswald - You don't see the point here? Well, that's a good indication that you might be in need of some education. Start with 1st grade and move up from there. We're all rootin' for ya, friend. Good luck!

  • nasa or whoever is control of these images would cut, copy and paste so it is possible the same jpeg artifacts appear in the same spot if they are covering something up

  • @strictpolicy - No, the images were taken from different angles at different times.

  • what are the chances of esa or nasa giving us a none edited photo of hale crater.

    i mean one with no false color or anything else added to it?

  • These pictures are hardly the result of "picture compression". These are not compression artifacts. I have never before seen compression artifacts casting a 3 dimensional profile. These images are also casting their own shadows that all run in the same direction as other larger items in the image. LET ME REPEAT: Compression artifacts don't make their own shadows and have a 3 dimensional profile in all 3 axises.

    NASA : Never A Straight Answer.

  • Please provide photo id data.

    Many are "perspectives" from a single jpeg source.

  • People can get all the official data they want by simply going to the ESA site and downloading the same images for themselves. I'm tired of trying to prove anything to disbelievers and people W/O common sense. If people want to remain blind drones then it's all on them. I'm moving on.

  • @yallways I have done that and I found that these images are all from a single stereo image.

    Quote; The perspective views were calculated from the digital terrain model derived from the stereo channels.

    I'm not a debunker, I'm an investigator.

    These are digital terrain models.

    We need to have images documented to be from a separate time and place to prove our case.

  • Digital terrain models do not use jpeg nor jpeg compression. The argument is simple. Regardless of them being single or not (in which case I know for a fact that two of them are completely separate images) either way, jpeg artifacts are not possible in 3D rendering models originally using TIFF as it's output. Since this argument began, they have removed all but the jpeg images from the site in order to support this false claim. I still have the original tiff images here.

  • PS: I have further evidence to support this as well but it's not plausible to upload to youtube. It would never get approved. I plan on revealing some of it in the next issue of GOinternet Magazine... FEB 2010 issue ...as long as problems do not arise that will prevent it.

  • @TUBEORATER Alright then, how come you can see the lines on both nasa (not as clear) and ESA, and by 3 different pictures, can find the exact same objects in each? I wanst a believr until I dug, and man how can you not realise these pics are fact!

  • yes, mars has wind

  • to avoid winds, a crater would be a good place to build anything on mars then......

  • I'm familliar with JPEG artifacts that even change with the amount of compression used. I totally agree,,,,these shapes must represent real features on the surface unless NASA is involved in a big hoax. Thanks for this video. I didn't even know that there are different images of the same area from different angles..

  • You are welcome. I am glad to help. More convincing videos are to come soon once I get over this Pneumonia completely. Have been in the hospital for several days but will get to them.

  • it doesnt meen there, there anymore, mars has, supposedly no wind or anything to put it out of place they could be millions or thousands of years old, it's wat theoretically will happen to earth... not saying that there wasn't anything there...

  • Mars does to have wind. What do you think those dust storms are? What, are you just making guesses at crap? Do your homework. If those have been there longer than a measly thousand or teo years, they would have been virtually nothing by now with the force of winds that Mars has.

  • watch?v=WAuQQ1EpWVA

  • nice work I look forwords to knowing you and your work!

  • I did more or less the same analysis and reached the same conclusion: can't imagine an instrumental effect that produces patterns that repeat in two different images exactly on the same location relative to ground features.

    I'm puzzled.

  • These are not the same images that were merely rotated. They are (and have been identified as) completely different images taken at different time.

  • Shall I remind to everyone the old scientific fact "Rocks don't fall from the sky, because there are no rocks on the sky"? The universe is full of life and the only source we trusted so far were the bastards who isolated us here and forced us to kill each other. The apocalypse is near, and nobody can do anything to stop it, deal with it. BTW apocalypse means revelation in Greek, try to guess what is going to be revealed

  • you'd be a tad easier to take seriously if you could create a slide without a spelling mistake.

  • Are you serious? The universal truth is based on a typo. Are you really that fucking god awful stupid?  Holy shit.... you are fucking amazing. So many people come up reasons not to believe but yours is a typo. Shit, your parents must be proud. LOL

  • A lot of people just find it difficult to swallow. As you might've noticed, that's the way a lot of people are.

  • That is 90% of the motivation behind non-believers. The other 10% is pure unfiltered stupidity.

  • Must give yallways right: What a stupid type of argument... "a spelling mistake"... Craps.

    I downloaded the two images taken from different perspectives and can confirm that the markings on the ground is not jpg-artifacts. I have looked at another place than in this video and the markings are the same but from another angle. Will upload them here later this evening.

  • LOL @ what you said ....

    good shit guy whoever you are

  • I believe these are not JPEG artifacts... i own a Mac, and i downloaded both the JPEG and TIFF versions :) and they have the same markings... #2, If you use a good image managing program, you will be able to accentuate Fine Detail and thus be able to view the "markings" become structural 3D objects... try it ... its pretty neat.. I just dont know why nothing has been officially commented on this, not even to disprove it...

  • Because they are aware of the fact that the truth is already out there. The only people that still don't believe are simply brainwashed idiots that trust anything that the government says because they are too dependent on others to actually think for themselves. The government takes no time to really deny anything anymore.  They even recently admitted to chemtrails. That's out there too.

  • However I also do think that there is also the probability that the picture was taken at such a high resolution and with such a powerful lens, that what we are actually looking at are the tracings from the Circuit Board behind the reflector of the camera...

  • And if that was the case then the structures would line up north and south no matter which angle the photos were taken from. However they are not... They line up with the contours of the ground instead. What sis they do, remove the circuit board and rotate it every time they took a photo from a new angle?

  • I said 'sis'... lol

  • My guess is that we are seeing ancient human colonies on Mars (or elsewhere). you are right, though, I don't take the debunker's bullslop either.

  • Good job!

  • Excellent video.

    I have a question, how many miles wide is Crater Hale and how deep is it? I recall reading that one of the buildings was over a mile in length!

    No doubt the Mars mass cover up is the biggest news story in history.

  • Wikipedia has the calculation at 150 by 125 km.

  • I don't know about airbrushing and conspiracies. But I looked at the original photo off the website and compared them to google earth view over california. They look very similar and when you zoom way in on california you get cities and structures.  Interesting but not proof. You did a nice job with the video if those are different pics at different angles like you say, that is good evidence that we are not looking at pixelization.

  • Believe me when I say that there are countless number of debunking arguments related to structures, not only on mars, but elsewhere in the solar system. Unfortunately, providing these arguments on YouTube just invites a lot of scorn and ridicule from uneducated brainwashed non-believers unlike ourselves who have awoken or simply use common sense.

    I will provide more videos on these later. I work as a full time Web Developer and just need to find more time to do this first.

  • Are there any better debunking arguments than the ".jpg artifact" explanation?

    Good video, expresses my conclusions exactly. I've worked with graphics professionally for 10 years using Photoshop and Fireworks (for websites, ads in newspapers, full-color offset-printed flyers, etc), and I have never seen .jpg artifacts do anything resembling what is in the Hale Crater photos (especially when you compare the different angles).

  • ESA photo shows what i would describe as an indenture near that pointing rock in Hale area (sorry not more specific) but there is a video on you tube about it. The weird thing is that Google Earth-Mars DOES NOT show that indenture which i measured it to be about 2000 feet acro, somebody doctored that photo for sure!

  • Hi "yallways"! Great video! Just to add my small findings here: I have found the same "X" with the "Circle" around it, in 3 different ESA website photographs of the Hale Crater. And not just that one single mark, either. I've found hundreds of the SAME markings on just about all the photos I've studied....And they all seem to follow the terrain! So, I'm definitely intrigued by this, and I certainly hope that ESA and NASA start looking into this stuff a bit more! Great work!

  • Unfortunately, the ESA, NASA and other preemptive research committee members are fully of aware of the reality of these images. There is too much evidence showing airbrushing on these photo which determined that there is definitely a cover-up involved.

  • Good work.

  • Good job man, now wait for the "experts in photography" with a good argument, and not "are pixels"

  • Unfortunately for those so called experts, I am an expert. Ex-Military Intelligence Computers and Electronic Platoon (74C) tactical Telecommunications com-center Operator and Radar Graphic Analysis Technologies. 20+ Years. Let them run their mouths. If YouTube was not such a low quality video sight I would introduce INDISPUTABLE evidence. YouTube is low quality for a reason. Even the high quality versions on here suck for a reason.

  • What reason is Youtube low quality? Please don't say it's a government conspiracy. LMAO! Because you will lose any credibility. Where were you stationed?

  • No, it's low quality in order to compensate for server bandwidth. All very large sites like this are like that unless they use specifically designed video player like stage6 did. (Divx). If youtube switched to Divx then it would be a lot better...

    I was station outside the DMZ in South Korea at Camp Humphrey prior to transferring to Presidio, San Francisco.

  • Thank you for your service to our country.  I haven't seen anyone come up with an explanation for these pics.

  • Mars is infested with weird stuff...

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